Virat Kohli's epic knocks in Tests in non-subcontinental conditions and results

[Sin Nombre]

Virat has 3 memorable test innings away from home under pressure in alien conditions

Adelaide 2nd innings (141; lost by 48 runs)
Centurion 1st innings (153; lost by 135 runs)
Edgbaston 1st innings (149; ??)

The likeliest result is England winning by 100 runs imo so how highly will these innings rank if they all end up in losing causes?

 

[jnaveen1980]

Virat has 3 memorable test innings away from home under pressure in alien conditions

Adelaide 2nd innings (141; lost by 48 runs)
Centurion 1st innings (153; lost by 135 runs)
Edgbaston 1st innings (149; ??)

The likeliest result is England winning by 100 runs imo so how highly will these innings rank if they all end up in losing causes?

Adelaid test was blown by horrible umpiring. Rahane's dismissal turned the match around. When M Vijay and Kohli were around India's chance of winning the test was well over 50%.

 

[Hitman]

What can he do apart from scoring runs at a good strike rate? You expect him to take the 20 opposition wickets as well?

 

[kuskash]

He does not score: oh but he has low avg in ENG

He scores: oh Ind do not win when he has epic knocks

What should he do? Lose-lose position for him.

 

[Dead Ball]

He does not score: oh but he has low avg in ENG

He scores: oh Ind do not win when he has epic knocks

What should he do? Lose-lose position for him.

He has now scored against every bowler in every condition, so this is the only way to bring him down.

 

[ManFan]

He has now scored against every bowler in every condition, so this is the only way to bring him down.

Except Sachin does not have a low average in any nation.

So that excuse can’t work against him.

 

[kingusama92]

It's unfair to use wins/losses to determine an innings' quality.

For example, how is it Kohli's fault everyone collapsed around him yesterday? I think those standards apply a lot better in ODIS/T20Is because a selfish innings is easy to pick out. You can immediately tell when a batsman is padding his stats instead of helping his team.

This innings has kept them in the match or it was likely over.

 

[Indiafan]

Except Sachin does not have a low average in any nation.

So that excuse can’t work against him.

I think he means the team losing after him scoring. I dont see what a batsman can do if he scores 149 in tough situations but his team still trails

 

[James]

England are probably still slight favourites with India batting last, but Kohli has given his team a fighting chance of a glorious victory when India were as good as gone in the match, and that too at the ground in the world where England has their best win ratio. In context, even if India as a team fall short, he has played a blinder.

 

[dilraza]

Brillient innings under presure.

 

[RainMan_]

What can he do apart from scoring runs at a good strike rate? You expect him to take the 20 opposition wickets as well?

What he's trying to is that apart from kohli there isn't a single batsman in the whole Indian lineup who's good enough to even play the supporting role which is why even after those mesmerising knocks Kohli still ended up in the losing side.

 

[Hitman]

He has now scored against every bowler in every condition, so this is the only way to bring him down.

Absolutely. That's the only criteria that some are left to bring up when nothing works in their favor. Oh, a certain batsman has X number of centuries in wins compared to another batsman who has just Y number of centuries in wins, hence he is a bigger match winner.

 

[jeeteshssaxena]

He has now scored against every bowler in every condition, so this is the only way to bring him down.

This is a well known tactic if you've checked out any Sachin thread on this forum.

Yup, some posters say that amla is better than sachin bcoz he has more impact innings, they fail to understand that it's amla's team which was much superior to sachin's team and that's why he has more impact innings.
If this is the criteria than no asian batsman will come close to saffers and australians.

 

[Hasan123]

Quality knocks regardless of the outcome. But they would be highlighted even more if India won them.

 

[Convict]

Adelaide knock overrated but the other two are ATG worthy.

 

[happydavy]

I am quite sure that it bothers Kohli much more than his fans (incl me) that his Adelaide and centurion centuries couldn't achieve victories. Esp the Adelaide loss since thanks to Saha and co, we ended up losing it by giving away some 5 wkts in 7-8 overs in the last session. Both were absolutely great innings but won't be part of folklores simply because we didn't win. Today is his chance.

 

[Adijazz1706]

And so it continues...

 

[Ab Fan]

The passion, hunger and drive Kohli has towards his game towers over most of the modern era batsmen.

 

[Abdullah719]

Virat Kohli says his century was his second best as it was in a losing cause

Virat Kohli has said his first innings 149 was the second-best century in his Test career, as it proved to be in a losing cause.

The Indian captain was dismissed lbw by Ben Stokes for 51 on day four at Edgbaston as England sealed a 31-run victory over the visitors.

And, Kohli - who matched former captain Sachin Tendulkar by scoring a hundred and a half-century in the same match on a sixth occasion - said his first innings score was second only to the 141 he scored in the fourth innings against Australia at Adelaide in 2014.

"From a team perspective it was probably the second best," he told Ian Ward on Sky Sports cricket. "After the second innings in Adelaide and it is one that I will fondly remember, if we had won it would have No 1.

"It was hard work and when you're able to take your team close to the first innings total of a home side it always feels good."

In an absorbing Test, the game swung in favour of both sides from session to session as England pulled off a classic win in their 1,000th match in the longest format of cricket.

http://www.skysports.com/cricket/ne...s-his-second-best-as-it-was-in-a-losing-cause

 

[Sin Nombre]

And so it continues...

3/3 best overseas knocks in losses.

He will probably get to 4 or 5 by the time the Aussie tour is over.

 

[AssassinatedDevil]

His knock in the 1st Test wasn't good enough to win his team the game. Younus Khan's double ton in 2016 against England was much superior as it won Pakistan the match.

 

[kingusama92]

His knock in the 1st Test wasn't good enough to win his team the game. Younus Khan's double ton in 2016 against England was much superior as it won Pakistan the match.

Shafiq's 109 was massive in supporting YK's double ton.

It would be similar to someone putting up a 50 alongside Kohli. Instead, Dhawan put up a mere 26 runs as the 2nd highest scorer.

In the end, they lost by 31 runs. That difference cost them the game.

 

[kuskash]

His knock in the 1st Test wasn't good enough to win his team the game. Younus Khan's double ton in 2016 against England was much superior as it won Pakistan the match.

Bhai, Younus had a good knock. Try to understand cricket. He must had support from someone, he himself alone could not win.

Virat had good knock too, he just did not have support from anyone.

Cricket is called a teamgame for a reason.

 

[Rahul1]

His knock in the 1st Test wasn't good enough to win his team the game. Younus Khan's double ton in 2016 against England was much superior as it won Pakistan the match.

I didn't know that cricket was an individual sport. Thanks for letting me know.

 

[Ab Fan]

I also rate his Adelaide and Edgabastan as two best knocks by Kohli till date. The inning he played in Centurion is a bit overrated though.

 

[topspin]

His knock in the 1st Test wasn't good enough to win his team the game. Younus Khan's double ton in 2016 against England was much superior as it won Pakistan the match.

No not even close and this is coming from a Pakistan and YK fan (back in his playing days). Can't compare a 218 on flat oval track to a 149 in overcast conditions in Edgbaston.