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Very nice post. I'm sorry for your thoughts for Akram. He was very respected in India too and we all sad when retirement.Undoubtedly, time is the greatest leveler & the one opposition that no player can ever master. This is the reason why respecting the sport is so crucial & important.
I have nothing against Kohli, he's a good player & also has helped modernize the cricket of his country in terms of mentality but seeing him struggle so badly now I wish that he retires from test cricket or at least take an elongated break. I know there's an inner voice somewhere in his head that he can reverse all of this & he may well manage to eke out a few good performances from within but our memories work in snapshots instead of films & the current gen that has grown up idolizing him is saving all the wrong snapshots in their head at the moment. His true impact will last generations, that's what will seep into every young cricketer from India, that dogged fighting spirit, that sometimes over the line aggression, the petulant brattish energy that annoys the opposition & also the team mates at times.
Most people will think that he's clinging on because of sponsorship deals & it may have some truth to it but it's more likely Kohlis wish to go out on a high instead of a low. Honestly when a player that we grew up watching retires, a part of us dies too.
Personally, I can never forget the retirement of Akram. It was the lowest of lows & he didn't even get to bowl in his farewell match because of persistent rain. The 2003 worldcup for that reason was so tragic, seeing a great player who was my childhood hero retire in such a damp manner. I always felt that Akram could play a couple more years, heck he was bowling almost 140s even at the time when he called it a day. But he didn't & that is how life is & we should just move on.
Kohli on his day in his prime was a bonafide superstar & that is how I want to remember him. Someone who as an opponent you were afraid of but also had respect for. Not a washed up has been who is seen as a selfish bloke that's blocking a spot for a young up & coming talent. As I said above, his true impact will last generations & for the sake of that, he should take a break from test cricket. Go on your own terms, leave at a time when people still wonder that maybe if he spent another few months or played in that particular ground he would have scored a century or won us the game.
I hope he hears the distant voice calling his name, accepts his fate, & walks into the sunset with grace, dignity, & contentment.
We never got to see Akram again once he retired, but for him that won't be his goodbye & frankly the IPL isn't that bad of a final act, just saying.
This write-up is 3 years late. He should have been kicked out 3 years back. He has crossed the limit of empathy long back. Right now all i have for him is anger. Nobody could get away with such poor performance for such a long period. Any player other than Kohli would have lost his spot 4 years back. It has never happened in Indian history. No superstar has survived this long. Not even Sachin. But Sachin quickly realized and bid adieu. Even he was not this bad at the fag end of his career.Undoubtedly, time is the greatest leveler & the one opposition that no player can ever master. This is the reason why respecting the sport is so crucial & important.
I have nothing against Kohli, he's a good player & also has helped modernize the cricket of his country in terms of mentality but seeing him struggle so badly now I wish that he retires from test cricket or at least take an elongated break. I know there's an inner voice somewhere in his head that he can reverse all of this & he may well manage to eke out a few good performances from within but our memories work in snapshots instead of films & the current gen that has grown up idolizing him is saving all the wrong snapshots in their head at the moment. His true impact will last generations, that's what will seep into every young cricketer from India, that dogged fighting spirit, that sometimes over the line aggression, the petulant brattish energy that annoys the opposition & also the team mates at times.
Most people will think that he's clinging on because of sponsorship deals & it may have some truth to it but it's more likely Kohlis wish to go out on a high instead of a low. Honestly when a player that we grew up watching retires, a part of us dies too.
Personally, I can never forget the retirement of Akram. It was the lowest of lows & he didn't even get to bowl in his farewell match because of persistent rain. The 2003 worldcup for that reason was so tragic, seeing a great player who was my childhood hero retire in such a damp manner. I always felt that Akram could play a couple more years, heck he was bowling almost 140s even at the time when he called it a day. But he didn't & that is how life is & we should just move on.
Kohli on his day in his prime was a bonafide superstar & that is how I want to remember him. Someone who as an opponent you were afraid of but also had respect for. Not a washed up has been who is seen as a selfish bloke that's blocking a spot for a young up & coming talent. As I said above, his true impact will last generations & for the sake of that, he should take a break from test cricket. Go on your own terms, leave at a time when people still wonder that maybe if he spent another few months or played in that particular ground he would have scored a century or won us the game.
I hope he hears the distant voice calling his name, accepts his fate, & walks into the sunset with grace, dignity, & contentment.
We never got to see Akram again once he retired, but for him that won't be his goodbye & frankly the IPL isn't that bad of a final act, just saying.
This write-up is 3 years late. He should have been kicked out 3 years back. He has crossed the limit of empathy long back. Right now all i have for him is anger. Nobody could get away with such poor performance for such a long period. Any player other than Kohli would have lost his spot 4 years back. It has never happened in Indian history. No superstar has survived this long. Not even Sachin. But Sachin quickly realized and bid adieu. Even he was not this bad at the fag end of his career.
Age is zero excuse for Kohlis decline. He's fit as a fiddle. He's clearly been cutting corners in the nets in the past 4 years and it's showing in his output. When you have a family and kids, you obviously cannot devote the same kind of time and energy to your practice drills in the nets as you did when you were single or if you didn't have kids. If previously you used to work 12-15 hours a day in your job when you were single or without kids, you will have to compromise and cut down your hours to 8-9 when you have kids.
Yes he's the only one with a family no other cricketer has a family. The extent of excuses Pakistanis make for kohli is embarrassing.Age is zero excuse for Kohlis decline. He's fit as a fiddle. He's clearly been cutting corners in the nets in the past 4 years and it's showing in his output. When you have a family and kids, you obviously cannot devote the same kind of time and energy to your practice drills in the nets as you did when you were single or if you didn't have kids. If previously you used to work 12-15 hours a day in your job when you were single or without kids, you will have to compromise and cut down your hours to 8-9 when you have kids.
Age is zero excuse for Kohlis decline. He's fit as a fiddle. He's clearly been cutting corners in the nets in the past 4 years and it's showing in his output. When you have a family and kids, you obviously cannot devote the same kind of time and energy to your practice drills in the nets as you did when you were single or if you didn't have kids. If previously you used to work 12-15 hours a day in your job when you were single or without kids, you will have to compromise and cut down your hours to 8-9 when you have kids.
Even in ODIs, Kohli has scored a lot of soft runs. Has only dominated 1 ODI WC despite playing 4 of them and being an ATG in that format.He is the opposite of Amla.
Amla had soft runs in white ball but a lot of tough runs in tests.
Kohli had tough runs in white ball but just soft runs in tests.
I'd give current Kohli -2/10 considering he is just a liability for Indian cricket in all facets of the game.Bringing this down to 1/10.
His career trajectory is very similar to Hashim Amla's.
His career trajectory is very similar to Hashim Amla's.
Amla didn't have a decline longer than his peak coupled with silly antics to the crowd.
In Test cricket, Kohli doesn't quite belong in the same league as Younis Khan, Hashim Amla, or Kevin Pietersen, as they had a major impact as batters for their teams. Their place in team was rarely questioned. These players were instrumental in securing several iconic wins and series victories, home and away. The same cannot be said for Kohli, and there’s a strong argument that India might have been a better batting side if he had never played Test cricket.He finished as a good player in league of YK, Amla, Peterson type players.
Could have been in league of Dravid/Sanga/Kallis but never stood a chance to be in Sachin/Lara/Viv/Bradman/Smith/Ponting etc level.
Even Boland's runs were more usefulKohli might be India's biggest stat padder and this series might be the the perfect example. More than 50 percent of his runs in this series came in a single knock where there was absolute no pressure.
Pat Cummins as a batter has won more matches for his team than Kohli with bat in Test Cricket.
He finished well below all of them.He finished as a good player in league of YK, Amla, Peterson type players.
Could have been in league of Dravid/Sanga/Kallis but never stood a chance to be in Sachin/Lara/Viv/Bradman/Smith/Ponting etc level.
Indian fans are hurting for sure and I believe are harshly rating his career in light of today's defeat. With the exception of @big_gamer007 who must have had some special cereal this morning.
While Kohli is not on the same level as test greats he is also not a 1/10 or 2/10 test player either. He has a career with some stellar moments and when the dust settles on this Indian defeat will be seen as a very good and at times vital player for India.
Kohli isn't the third best Test batsman of his generation, let alone top 5 all time.Bradman
Tendulkar
Lara
Gavaskar
Kohli
This is the top 5 batsman in cricket. The way Kohli dominate in Australia no other batsman has done it that's why he is my number 5.
Indian fans are being angry but Virat doesn't deserve it this much.
Win and lose happen but legend is always legend.
Who better than him in his generation?Kohli isn't the third best Test batsman of his generation, let alone top 5 all time.
Steve Smith allowing his bowlers to use Sandpapers doesn't mean anything.Who better than him in his generation?
Steve Smith cheater or Joe Root who is home track bully. These are the names you will say.
Kohli is bigger player with more achievements than both.
Lol Hammond, Viv, Clive Lloyd, Sachin are all better in Australia.This is the top 5 batsman in cricket. The way Kohli dominate in Australia no other batsman has done it that's why he is my number 5..
Batters better than him by each country
India
Sachin Tendulkar
Sunil Gavaskar
Rahul Dravid
Vijay Merchant
If you are embarass by your own player not my fault. Kohli is a GOAT and has helped us with many big achievements overseas. You can cry in front of Pakistani if you like but we should give legend the respect they deserve.Why are you hell bent on embarrassing the rest of us Indian posters on PP?
Ok you are right I forget king Viv my mistake but Kohli is still with the GOATsLol Hammond, Viv, Clive Lloyd, Sachin are all better in Australia.
Virat doesn't have one match winning knock in Australia, it's just pointless hundred spam on roads, the series where it wasn't just roads he averages like 30.
Azharuddin was nothing more than an extremely mediocre Test batsman, with a pathetic average of 36 away from home. Was a bang average ODI batsman as well.What only 4? Also include:
Sehwag
Laxman
Azharuddin
So you want us to agree with you that Kohli is the 5th greatest Test batsman ever?If you are embarass by your own player not my fault. Kohli is a GOAT and has helped us with many big achievements overseas. You can cry in front of Pakistani if you like but we should give legend the respect they deserve.
Maybe I was too emotional for saying 5th after India lost but he is in the mix with GOAT players for sure yes I am certain of it.So you want us to agree with you that Kohli is the 5th greatest Test batsman ever?
GOAT means greatest of all time. Theirs no such thing as a mix.Maybe I was too emotional for saying 5th after India lost but he is in the mix with GOAT players for sure yes I am certain of it.
Overall yeah.ODI record and t20 record can lead him to thatOk you are right I forget king Viv my mistake but Kohli is still with the GOATs
I think Azha is kinda underrated.He still better than many asian batsman during his time and can be equal to Aravinda de SilvaAzharuddin was nothing more than an extremely mediocre Test batsman, with a pathetic average of 36 away from home. Was a bang average ODI batsman as well.
Yeah.Sachin "not single" Tendulkar record was ave 49 after age 35King of choking. King of soft runs.
Yes he's the only one with a family no other cricketer has a family. The extent of excuses Pakistanis make for kohli is embarrassing.
Yea, equal to Aravinda de Silva in batting ability. But not even good enough to kiss his boots as a sportsman because the Sri Lankan was a man of integrity unlike that scum.I think Azha is kinda underrated.He still better than many asian batsman during his time and can be equal to Aravinda de Silva
Yeah Ronaldo and Messi are still active yet they have family.That’s 100% true and it’s not just cricket but every sport/profession is the same.
There are a very few select people who give same amount of time/dedication to their profession even after having kids and those are the kind of ones who are the top 0.00001% of their said profession.
I have nothing against Kohli not being in that 0.000001%.
12th should be KapilHe doesn't make our test all-time XI:
Sehwag
Gavaskar
Dravid
Tendulkar
Laxman
Ganguly (c)
Dhoni (wk)
Ashwin
Kumble
Zaheer
Bumrah
12th: Azharuddin
Gifted talents. Reaching their level in a global sport like football is 1000x tougher than reaching Kohli's level in a sport like cricket.Yeah Ronaldo and Messi are still active yet they have family.
Didn't understand you?Yeah.Sachin "not single" Tendulkar record was ave 49 after age 35
But then you'll have to take only the players who played all 3 formats of the game. In that case, I'll agree he's among the top 10.Overall yeah.ODI record and t20 record can lead him to that
After age 35 Sachin average was 49 in testDidn't understand you?
"Let me tell you dear boy, I saw Hammond, and Hammond has them both (Viv and Barry) in a corner." — E.W Swanton, The Godfather of Cricketing JournalismOk you are right I forget king Viv my mistake but Kohli is still with the GOATs
Yeah Ronaldo and Messi are still active yet they have family.
These English journalist are maybe your reference but not for me sorry. I don't know these Hammond type old men players."Let me tell you dear boy, I saw Hammond, and Hammond has them both (Viv and Barry) in a corner." — E.W Swanton, The Godfather of Cricketing Journalism
Bruh, No.These English journalist are maybe your reference but not for me sorry. I don't know these Hammond type old men players.
If Hammond was to face Bumrah he would be out within 3 balls.
It is nothing to do with SENA , KENA. It is the weakness that can be exploited even in antartica. He gets out like this in every country in the world.Was always a very overrated in tests. He's got below par average in 2 SENA countries, his average in NZ, is boosted by 1 ton where he was actually dismissed for a duck at the time when India were refusing the use of DRS.
I agree with you. I am just pointing out the struggles in those countries. For a veteran with over 100 tests, it is quite embarrassing the way he's getting out. This has been the story of his dismissals from the start of his career.It is nothing to do with SENA , KENA. It is the weakness that can be exploited even in antartica. He gets out like this in every country in the world.
He has played exceptionally well when he was in form because he had great reflexes back then. This weakness could be masked. Not anymore. Especially his 153 in SA is one of the best overseas innings i have seen. Ball was doing al sorts of things. Steyn was bowling peach after peach. Same way his Perth innings was a top shelf knock. His reflex is gone. He is not finding the middle. Consistently finding the edge. Unlike Sachin he doesn't have too many types of shots through off side. Most relies on drives.I agree with you. I am just pointing out the struggles in those countries. For a veteran with over 100 tests, it is quite embarrassing the way he's getting out. This has been the story of his dismissals from the start of his career.
He needs to call it a day specially in test formats. He has ruined his legacy big time. To think he was in conversations of being one of the greats and now to this. This has been a spectrum fall. I am not sure who's next in line for India, but they will have someone pretty good replacing him due to the batting talent in the country.He has played exceptionally well when he was in form because he had great reflexes back then. This weakness could be masked. Not anymore. Especially his 153 in SA is one of the best overseas innings i have seen. Ball was doing al sorts of things. Steyn was bowling peach after peach. Same way his Perth innings was a top shelf knock. His reflex is gone. He is not finding the middle. Consistently finding the edge. Unlike Sachin he doesn't have too many types of shots through off side. Most relies on drives.
I will have some empathy for him if he has gone back to first class or county cricket to rectify his mistake. He refused to play domestic cricket. There is an interesting fact that Sachin Tendulkar played his last domestic first class game in 2012. But Kohli played his last first class game before that. Basically he is using internationals as training ground.He is purely selected basis of PR. No first class performance. Nothing. There is nobody in the world that gets selected this way. Smith would have been dropped long back had he performed like this.He needs to call it a day specially in test formats. He has ruined his legacy big time. To think he was in conversations of being one of the greats and now to this. This has been a spectrum fall. I am not sure who's next in line for India, but they will have someone pretty good replacing him due to the batting talent in the country.
Indian fans are hurting for sure and I believe are harshly rating his career in light of today's defeat. With the exception of @big_gamer007 who must have had some special cereal this morning.
While Kohli is not on the same level as test greats he is also not a 1/10 or 2/10 test player either. He has a career with some stellar moments and when the dust settles on this Indian defeat will be seen as a very good and at times vital player for India.
Kohli is too arrogant to play FC cricket. FC cricket is for mere mortals, not for him.I will have some empathy for him if he has gone back to first class or county cricket to rectify his mistake. He refused to play domestic cricket. There is an interesting fact that Sachin Tendulkar played his last domestic first class game in 2012. But Kohli played his last first class game before that. Basically he is using internationals as training ground. He is purely selected basis of PR. No first class performance. Nothing. There is nobody in the world that gets selected this way. Smith would have been dropped long back had he performed like this.
His fandom mainly came for his loi batting.Kohli is not worthy of the fandom, stardom and wealth that he has enjoyed given his ordinary Test credentials.
He is arguably the luckiest cricketer in history. His stature and reputation are far better than his talent and skill.