Virat Kohli's lack of charisma

[ManFan]

Let me start off with saying Kholi is the best batsman of this generation. Smith is a distant second. However many people have this misconception that he's a charismatic and shrewd personality. I just don't see it whether it's in his robotic press conferences or home season bullied captaincy. Great cricketer but not a leader. No hate for Kholi because his wrist flicks are just a piece of art.

 

[IAJ]

He seems like a good guy, can be rude on the field. He is very energetic on the field and can at times behave like a child. But overall he is good.

 

[Pete Rose]

I see a pretty level headed guy. seems coherent off the field as well.
no issues with on the field theatrics, for me.

 

[captain crook]

Very decent batsman but unimaginative and poor captain.

 

[Oxfordchamp]

Who cares about charisma when he is delivering both as captain and player...under him India are ranked 1 in both tests and ODIs...

 

[sundries]

If he has succeeded till now both as a player and as a Captain then who cares about Charisma ..

 

[SandyB]

He extremely well conditioned by the Indian system. His press conferences, language, off field behaviour etc. I feel what you see of Kohli these days , may not be completely his true self, but the system is moulding him into the Ideal kind of Captian we need as of now !

That's good enough for now !

 

[Savak]

There are players who become the media darling without too many consistent performances.

The only reason Kohli has the brand deals, advertisements is because of his insane consistency as a player. Minus his performances, his personality on its own is not enough to create buzz in the media.

 

[ManFan]

Agree. Love him as a player but don't buy this " respectful " version where he remains neutral.

 

[Syed1]

Nothing comes close to Dhoni's charisma.

 

[Princejain191]

Let me start off with saying Kholi is the best batsman of this generation. Smith is a distant second. However many people have this misconception that he's a charismatic and shrewd personality. I just don't see it whether it's in his robotic press conferences or home season bullied captaincy. Great cricketer but not a leader. No hate for Kholi because his wrist flicks are just a piece of art.

Don't agree with the robotic press conferences part, he usually says things in a very calculated manner but on any cricket related question, there is always some shrewd insight. His english is polished and it may make the words seem robotic but there are always some things you can learn from when you listen to him.

As far as 'home season bullied captaincy' is concerned, I can't decipher how the scheduling of Indian cricket has anything to do with charisma. But there is something different in his captaincy, if you notice how our fast bowlers have bowled since he has taken over the captaincy - in all formats, you will see the change. Similarly, it is amazing how he actually involves the crowd itself in the test matches. He is an unorthodox leader from what I have seen and that is good for cricket. Robotic is the last word I would use for Virat actually.

 

[ManFan]

Winning breeds confidence. That's why those fast bowlers appear pumped up. It has nothing to do with Kholi. There's two types of leaders in cricket in my opinion. The " hands on hips " like Nasser Hussain and " the cool and collected " like Dhoni. Kohli is stuck in between because he wants to be aggressive but comes off more like Ponting rather than say McCullum. Ponting for all his success in ODI was a mediocre captain in Tests. That's because Test match cricket is like an act that follows the players as they go through emotions and setbacks. Ponting was artificially aggressive as is evident by the fact he is the only Australian captain to lose three Ashes series. Kohli will be fine for now as Dhoni is still there for input but the real test will begin once Dhoni retires.

 

[mikeypbadana]

I beg to defer. He goes for the kill and expects the ability of a player to come through rather than bits and pieces player. A captain looks stupid if his decisions don't come out. What is the brilliance of dhoni in Pakistan dropping catches of sachin 5 times in 2011 semifinal or Imran nazir run out in 2007 world t20 ??? Kohli will get better.Generally mediocre players make great captains ranatunga Steve Waugh dhonni what's the role of dhonni in yuvraj hitting 6 sixes or ranatungas role when aravinda desilvas won 1996 World Cup ??

 

[Brodipet_baadshah]

Noo problem...on anyday v vl drop/sacrifice charisma, style...etc etc for #1 rankings in test, odi and couple of worldcups or mini-worldcups..all v need is a boring result - win wid consistent performance

 

[ManFan]

A 50+ average and remaining in top 10 ODI batsmen for over 10 years. And the fact that India have won T20 World Cup, ODI World Cup, Asia Cup and Champions Trophy under him?

 

[cricketjoshila]

One in doubt play the charishma part.Same was done with SRT.

 

[Billy1999]

I don't know but

I don't like cricket these days your captain is your most respectable player in the team the captain is also slightly older,Decent players in tests average about 45 and Odis about 35 but they don't sware,cheat or say nasty things also their pressers are honest and are done in there way.Kohli seems an Odd captain as much as I want to hear his pressers I can't because of the way he acts and talks,his pressers aren't imagative or clever it makes me want to break the I pad, Williamson and smith are decent and I think root will be good as well,Azhar was quite a good captain when it came to talking,Don't really like kohli as a captain as well because he is a batsmen first then captain normally it's the other way.He doesn't have the capability of becoming a good captain,Really u imagative and boring

 

[PakLFC]

I don't have a problem with Kohli on or off the field. He plays hard on field and seems a decent bloke off it as well. Often seen him mingling and chatting with players of the opposite side as well. Also gave our Lala Afridi a signed shirt with a few kind words when he retired.

 

[Napa]

The girls in my Delhi neighborhood love him, which I guess is the best metric for a sportsman's charisma.

All Indians are very happy with his personality, he has shown great drive in taking India to the top.

 

[ManFan]

On-field charisma mate. Afridi gets all the love from the females yet we know what kind of charisma he brings.

 

[vandokkum]

I don't know of a single person who is neutral towards Kohli. You either love him or hate him, there's no in between.

 

[LastManstanding]

Time for Shehzad to show his bigger heart and give few tips to Kohli

 

[Suleiman]

I don't know of a single person who is neutral towards Kohli. You either love him or hate him, there's no in between.

And I think that is a good thing. It's good to be polarizing. Even in life imo, it's better to have few people genuinely love you for who you are and few people dislike you than just be sort of on neutral terms with everyone. Former usually happens when you live life on your own terms rather than trying to be politically correct and please everyone.

 

[MRSN]

it's overrated. Kohli is leading team India from the front with his excellent performances. who cares if some people don't find him attractive enough. this is not modelling. It's a sport mate.

 

[shravan]

Winning breeds confidence. That's why those fast bowlers appear pumped up. It has nothing to do with Kholi. There's two types of leaders in cricket in my opinion. The " hands on hips " like Nasser Hussain and " the cool and collected " like Dhoni. Kohli is stuck in between because he wants to be aggressive but comes off more like Ponting rather than say McCullum. Ponting for all his success in ODI was a mediocre captain in Tests. That's because Test match cricket is like an act that follows the players as they go through emotions and setbacks. Ponting was artificially aggressive as is evident by the fact he is the only Australian captain to lose three Ashes series. Kohli will be fine for now as Dhoni is still there for input but the real test will begin once Dhoni retires.

So because ponting lost 3 ashes series he is artificially aggressive??

And also, Kohli is a professional sportsman and not a miss universe participant. All that matters is the performance on the field . Ridiculous threads being started just to somehow criticise Kohli.

 

[Princejain191]

Winning breeds confidence. That's why those fast bowlers appear pumped up. It has nothing to do with Kholi. There's two types of leaders in cricket in my opinion. The " hands on hips " like Nasser Hussain and " the cool and collected " like Dhoni. Kohli is stuck in between because he wants to be aggressive but comes off more like Ponting rather than say McCullum. Ponting for all his success in ODI was a mediocre captain in Tests. That's because Test match cricket is like an act that follows the players as they go through emotions and setbacks. Ponting was artificially aggressive as is evident by the fact he is the only Australian captain to lose three Ashes series. Kohli will be fine for now as Dhoni is still there for input but the real test will begin once Dhoni retires.

Couldn't disagree more. Kohli's intensity and objectives help. Have a good day, I guess.

 

[ExpressPacer]

This is an oxymoronic statement. Virat Kohli and 'Lack of charisma's just don't go hand in hand. He has got to be one of the most emotional and charismatic cricketers to have dawned the Indian jersey in the last 20 years. And mind you, he's a great leader. Everyone in the team looks up to him as a father figure, not only because he's the best player in the team but also because of how much he loves playing and how much he wants to win.

While he may not be the best tactician going around, there is no doubt about the fact that he is most certainly the best leader. My ideal captain for the team would still be Dhoni but if not Dhoni, then Rohit Sharma but I still stand by the fact that Kohli is the best leader this team can get.

His calm and confident approach for the press conference is intimidating and he's giving off the narrative through his body language that there is not an iota of pressure on the Indian team, no matter how big or important the game. Dare I say he tries to play with the minds of the opposition just like the great Imran Khan..

 

[SandyB]

[MENTION=141922]ExpressPacer[/MENTION]

I don't think Kohli and IK compare. IK was a Pure ALPHA, extremely driven and motivated and was narcissistic enough sustain all that success . To go from Medium pacer -> Express Bowler - > Fast bowling allrounder -> WC winning captian -> Potential president candidate is no mean feat.

You CAN'T teach or condition someone to be all that ! That MUCH drive has to come from within. One person who I find very similar to IK in that regard is Arnold Schwarzenegger , who achieved so much via the sheer force of will .

VK on the other hand is talented, driven and is very strong willed, but his personality is nowhere near as Imposing to do an IK. Most of what you see of Kohli today is good conditioning from his U-19 days as well as great mentoring by seniors like Sachin who played with him in his formatting period.

I feel MSD is a much more imposing personality than VK, that you see by how much Dhoni has achieved and the respect he commands from the players, even while being so composed and soft spoken.

Virat is a charismatic batsman very much like Viv, though too explosive and not as composed. His on field mannerisms evoke a sort of Swagger that reminds you of Viv . But as captain he isn't there yet .

 

[KevinFern]

At the least get his name correct. It's K-O-H-L-I not K-H-O-L-I

 

[Mamoon]

There are players who become the media darling without too many consistent performances.

The only reason Kohli has the brand deals, advertisements is because of his insane consistency as a player. Minus his performances, his personality on its own is not enough to create buzz in the media.

That is not true at all. He is good looking for an Indian, has a trendy fashion sense and is very articulate. He simply oozes star quality and the fact that he is a legendary batsman has simply enhanced his stardom. If he would have been a decent player, he would still have been a star. However, now he is a superstar.

I am quite surprised by this thread. For me, he is one of the most charismatic cricketers I've ever seen. He is the definition of a modern day cricketer: top player, fashionable, intelligent, aggressive on the field and composed off it, and his fitness is far beyond the requirements of cricket. He is the face of cricket today and to say that he lacks charisma is quite baffling. Common examples of players lacking in charisma are Amla, Smith, Williamson etc.

 

[marlonbrowndo]

He's good looking for an Indian guy. I think he's pretty charismatic tbh. Sometimes it looks like he tries too hard but other than that he comes across as pretty cool. Not Imran level obviously because he was naturally very charismatic and didn't need to try

 

[mikeypbadana]

This is an oxymoronic statement. Virat Kohli and 'Lack of charisma's just don't go hand in hand. He has got to be one of the most emotional and charismatic cricketers to have dawned the Indian jersey in the last 20 years. And mind you, he's a great leader. Everyone in the team looks up to him as a father figure, not only because he's the best player in the team but also because of how much he loves playing and how much he wants to win.

While he may not be the best tactician going around, there is no doubt about the fact that he is most certainly the best leader. My ideal captain for the team would still be Dhoni but if not Dhoni, then Rohit Sharma but I still stand by the fact that Kohli is the best leader this team can get.

His calm and confident approach for the press conference is intimidating and he's giving off the narrative through his body language that there is not an iota of pressure on the Indian team, no matter how big or important the game. Dare I say he tries to play with the minds of the opposition just like the great Imran Khan..

Team or captains strategy is an extension of captain. Rantunga Steve Waugh to an extent dhoni mediocre players hence always make best out of the players with strategy. Virat doesn't believe in bits and pieces players.always believes in exceptional ability. What is the need of strategy when every body is pushed to improve in their skills. To sum it up virat may go down the Aussie way of captaincy aka ponting just intimidate the opposition with sheer quality that no strategy or imagination may work explaining why Australia were unbeatable in 2003 and 2007

 

[ExpressPacer]

[MENTION=141922]ExpressPacer[/MENTION]

I don't think Kohli and IK compare. IK was a Pure ALPHA, extremely driven and motivated and was narcissistic enough sustain all that success . To go from Medium pacer -> Express Bowler - > Fast bowling allrounder -> WC winning captian -> Potential president candidate is no mean feat.

You CAN'T teach or condition someone to be all that ! That MUCH drive has to come from within. One person who I find very similar to IK in that regard is Arnold Schwarzenegger , who achieved so much via the sheer force of will .

VK on the other hand is talented, driven and is very strong willed, but his personality is nowhere near as Imposing to do an IK. Most of what you see of Kohli today is good conditioning from his U-19 days as well as great mentoring by seniors like Sachin who played with him in his formatting period.

I feel MSD is a much more imposing personality than VK, that you see by how much Dhoni has achieved and the respect he commands from the players, even while being so composed and soft spoken.

Virat is a charismatic batsman very much like Viv, though too explosive and not as composed. His on field mannerisms evoke a sort of Swagger that reminds you of Viv . But as captain he isn't there yet .

I didn't say he was the regeneration of IK (even though that is yet to be seen) but I feel as though he has the ability to intimidate the opposition in a similar manner through his body language which the OP described as "robotic".

 

[ExpressPacer]

Team or captains strategy is an extension of captain. Rantunga Steve Waugh to an extent dhoni mediocre players hence always make best out of the players with strategy. Virat doesn't believe in bits and pieces players.always believes in exceptional ability. What is the need of strategy when every body is pushed to improve in their skills. To sum it up virat may go down the Aussie way of captaincy aka ponting just intimidate the opposition with sheer quality that no strategy or imagination may work explaining why Australia were unbeatable in 2003 and 2007

Dhoni was a mediocre player? I stopped reading after you said this because the man averages over 50 in ODIs. How can you even say that? Wouldve had more centuries and more runs had he batted up the order.

 

[mikeypbadana]

One dimensional with great home record. By his own admission he doesn't have range of shots like kohli and is ineffective in test /t20s.if not mediocre one dimensional player

 

[Rightarmfast]

Winning breeds confidence. That's why those fast bowlers appear pumped up. It has nothing to do with Kholi. There's two types of leaders in cricket in my opinion. The " hands on hips " like Nasser Hussain and " the cool and collected " like Dhoni. Kohli is stuck in between because he wants to be aggressive but comes off more like Ponting rather than say McCullum. Ponting for all his success in ODI was a mediocre captain in Tests. That's because Test match cricket is like an act that follows the players as they go through emotions and setbacks. Ponting was artificially aggressive as is evident by the fact he is the only Australian captain to lose three Ashes series. Kohli will be fine for now as Dhoni is still there for input but the real test will begin once Dhoni retires.

Boy, have you even been following Indian cricket, let alone Kohli? Who chose these genuine quickies in the Indian team, who were not being selected earlier? Have you ever heard him talking about bowlers? Sorry, but you seem to know nothing of sports or even cricket!

As far as charisma is concerned, I find it very funny. If Kohli doesnt have charisma, then who has? Sarfaraz? Quit complaining when you got no other points to put him down... Nice try though

 

[English August]

At the least get his name correct. It's K-O-H-L-I not K-H-O-L-I

I suspect people do this deliberately. Once or twice it could be a typo, but if someone's doing it all the time, it's clearly intentional. Pettiness at its worst.

 

[BlueAngel]

With the threads like these you come to know how much people fear virat.

I hope he stays like this and doesnt end up like a bitter lonely old addict man just for some thing like charisma.

 

[TQ89]

Your assumptions seem quite vague and you declared him not so shrewd based on what? His press conference ?

 

[Savak]

He's good looking for an Indian guy. I think he's pretty charismatic tbh. Sometimes it looks like he tries too hard but other than that he comes across as pretty cool. Not Imran level obviously because he was naturally very charismatic and didn't need to try

He was not good looking when he started his career, but he is makes $25 million per annum now due to his consistency, when you have so much money, you can buy all the image consultants, advisors, PR people, pscyhologists, nutritionists, trainers who will groom you like no tommorow. Couple that with his insane drive and consistency as a cricketer, is what has made him the biggest brand in Indian Cricket right now.

 

[super hitter]

Quite Artificial when it comes to his chirpy behaviour

 

[baburao]

He's good looking for an Indian guy. I think he's pretty charismatic tbh. Sometimes it looks like he tries too hard but other than that he comes across as pretty cool. Not Imran level obviously because he was naturally very charismatic and didn't need to try

what do you mean by for INDIAN GUY. He is good looking for everyone. Pakistanis have same Indian DNA.

 

[baburao]

That is not true at all. He is good looking for an Indian, has a trendy fashion sense and is very articulate. He simply oozes star quality and the fact that he is a legendary batsman has simply enhanced his stardom. If he would have been a decent player, he would still have been a star. However, now he is a superstar.

I am quite surprised by this thread. For me, he is one of the most charismatic cricketers I've ever seen. He is the definition of a modern day cricketer: top player, fashionable, intelligent, aggressive on the field and composed off it, and his fitness is far beyond the requirements of cricket. He is the face of cricket today and to say that he lacks charisma is quite baffling. Common examples of players lacking in charisma are Amla, Smith, Williamson etc.

He is good looking for everyone and not just Indian. Pakistanis are no different from Indians. Only difference is the religion. You know the history. So stop thinking that you are someone else. You know what i mean. lol

 

[baburao]

On-field charisma mate. Afridi gets all the love from the females yet we know what kind of charisma he brings.

afridi and charisma? c'mon. Is that the standard of charisma for you? afridi is charismatic for a pakistani maybe. But overall he acts and behaves like a joker and was also a joke of a player. Many pakistanis also don't like him.

 

[Haripotter]

Noo problem...on anyday v vl drop/sacrifice charisma, style...etc etc for #1 rankings in test, odi and couple of worldcups or mini-worldcups..all v need is a boring result - win wid consistent performance

Haha. This is a nice answer to those who always pin point at one or the other thing negative about Kohli outa envy

 

[marlonbrowndo]

what do you mean by for INDIAN GUY. He is good looking for everyone. Pakistanis have same Indian DNA.

Don't wanna derail this thread but it's a well known fact that Pakistani men are much better looking generally. Many Indian girls here in Canada have said the same to me as well

 

[Haripotter]

Don't wanna derail this thread but it's a well known fact that Pakistani men are much better looking generally. Many Indian girls here in Canada have said the same to me as well

Show me one Pakistani that is better looking that hritik roshan. back it with actual Google proof

 

[baburao]

Don't wanna derail this thread but it's a well known fact that Pakistani men are much better looking generally. Many Indian girls here in Canada have said the same to me as well

only you paksitanis say this. Indian men in general are much better looking than pakistani even though pakistanis have same DNA. Even the current Mr. world is Indian. You can search in google. Many pakistani girls in UK have said the same to me as well.
even you look at pakistani cricketers like amir sohail, waqar younis, basit ali, javed minadad, rashid latif ,etc and compare them with indian cricketers. All indian cricketers were much better looking than that.

 

[baburao]

Show me one Pakistani that is better looking that hritik roshan. back it with actual Google proof

forget about hrithik roshan. Even vivek oberoi is enough.

 

[marlonbrowndo]

[MENTION=144947]baburao[/MENTION] let's take this to the random talk thread

 

[aniket1911]

It's your opinion and I respect it but don't agree with it. In my opinion Afridi isn't/wasn't charismatic et all, more of a PR to justify his stay in the team - Can't expect everyone to think the same but that's why they are personal opinions.

 

[baburao]

[MENTION=144947]baburao[/MENTION] let's take this to the random talk thread

sure. After the match we will have full discussion about it in time-pass thread

 

[roshanrocks]

He already has a steady girl friend, he doesnt need Charisma...

 

[Mamoon]

He is good looking for everyone and not just Indian. Pakistanis are no different from Indians. Only difference is the religion. You know the history. So stop thinking that you are someone else. You know what i mean. lol

The majority of Pakistani people are better looking than Indian people, especially the ones in the northern areas. They are genetically different to the Punjabis, who have the same ancestry as Indian Punjabis. Let's not even talk about South India. However, I don't feel comfortable in engaging in this discussion on the day of our historic CT win. Nonetheless, I didn't mean any offense.

 

[Haroon786]

Kohli might be a charismatic batsman, but as a leader or just as a person, I don't think he is IMO. Having said that he is very emotionally charged and very intelligent from a cricketing perspective, when things are going well he can motivate his bowlers and give off the positive, attacking vibe but when things are not going so well, just like today then he loses the plot. His body language in the field was negative, in fact he was non-existent for a large chunk of the Pakistani innings - the camera panned to MSD more than it did to Kohli because it was clear who was calling the shots midway through the innings.

Kohli leads by performance and not by aura or charisma.