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Former Indian cricketer Virender Sehwag, who was known for his explosive batting during his playing days, has earned fame for a different reason since retiring. The batsman has become an internet sensation with his tweets on the micro-blogging website. From witty birthday wishes to his banter with Piers Morgan, the ‘Nawab of Najafgarh’ uses the social medium quite extensively for posting his views on a variety of topics. However, one of his latest tweets has drawn bouquets and brickbats in equal measure.

On Sunday night, Sehwag shared a picture on Twitter holding a placard that read, “I didn’t score two triple centuries, my bat did”, along with the message, “Bat me hai Dum! #BharatJaisiJagahNahi”.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Bat me hai Dum !<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/BharatJaisiJagahNahi?src=hash">#BharatJaisiJagahNahi</a> <a href="https://t.co/BNaO1LBHLH">pic.twitter.com/BNaO1LBHLH</a></p>— Virender Sehwag (@virendersehwag) <a href="https://twitter.com/virendersehwag/status/835856883655245824">February 26, 2017</a></blockquote>
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Bizarrely, Sehwag's tweet appears to be a response to a year-old campaign on social media by a Delhi University student about peace with Pakistan.

The student, Gurmehar Kaur, is the daughter of late Captain Mandeep Singh who died during the Kargil War. Kaur made headlines recently after the violence on the Ramjas College campus when students and teachers clashed with Akhil Bharatiya Vidyarthi Parishad (ABVP) members.

In response to the incident, Kaur, had launched another social media campaign against the ABVP called #StudentsAgainstABVP.

She changed her Facebook profile picture to one with her holding a placard that says, “I am a student of Delhi University. I am not afraid of ABVP. I am not alone. Every student of India is with me. #fightbackdu #studentsagainstabvp”.

Her Facebook post went viral, with several other students following in her footsteps. "This profile picture is my way of protesting against the tyranny of fear. If you are a student in any Indian university, in any Indian state and you wish to protest against ABVP, then take a similar selfie and make it your profile picture. Use the hashtag #StudentsAgainstABVP and copy paste this message along with it."

However, it was the 20-year-old's year-old social media campaign, advocating peace with Pakistan, which Sehwag seems to have responded to.

In it, Kaur had posted a video with her holding a placard which read: "Pakistan did not kill my dad, war killed him”. But as plenty of people pointed out, this placard was just one of a series of a long message of peace that Kaur was rooting for.

Kaur had clarified on Saturday that she supports freedom of speech but not anti-national slogans.

Kaur tweeted: "Am I fighting for people who support anti-nationals? NO! Who are fighting for? STUDENTS And our right to free speech, safe academic space."

"Free of hate. Free to speak. Free to hold opinions. Free to learn. This is my nation. #studentsagainstabvp," she said.

"Nationalism isn't defined by whoever is in power. Nationalism is a feeling that comes from within. It's love for the nation. It's love for its people and it's people include young students," she tweeted.

Criticising the reactions that she is receiving over social media, Kaur in another tweet wrote: "Absolutely disgusted at the reactions I'm receiving from so called 'nationalists'."

One such tweet is from Bollywood actor Randeep Hooda, who showed his support for Sehwag through a retweet. Both Sehwag and Hooda received plenty of flak as well as praise for their tweets.

Perhaps Sehwag should stick to trolling Morgan and former cricketers on their birthdays, rather than sly tweeting a 20-year-old for her political views.

http://www.firstpost.com/sports/vir...to-troll-kargil-martyrs-daughter-3304854.html
 
Waiting for the time when political outfits are banned from Educational institutions.

All these Student Organizations like ABVP/SFI/AISF should be banned and anyone who raises slogans in college should be jailed.

Students can do whatever they want outside the 4 walls of the Schools/Colleges etc. When they are on campus politics should not be allowed. Worthless fools.
 
Waiting for the time when political outfits are banned from Educational institutions.

All these Student Organizations like ABVP/SFI/AISF should be banned and anyone who raises slogans in college should be jailed.

Students can do whatever they want outside the 4 walls of the Schools/Colleges etc. When they are on campus politics should not be allowed. Worthless fools.
So you don't want Indian universities and colleges to be teaching Political Science type courses either? :13:
 
So you don't want Indian universities and colleges to be teaching Political Science type courses either? :13:

Teach them.

But Students should not be part of political parties like BJP/Congress/Communists etc. Most of the students who belong to these organizations are worthless idiots. They are thugs masquerading as students. Rioters.

Seen tons of them during my college days. Good for shouting slogans and sometimes damaging property and of course beating up rival student leaders.
 
Coming to Miss Kaur's statement.

Pakistan did not kill her dad. War did.

This is like saying murderer did not commit the crime. Gun/Knife did it.

I am with Sehwag on this one.

Now what lead to the war with Pakistan? It will be a completely different topic.

Her Dad was in army and got Martyred. I wonder what her dad would say if he were alive.
 
Actually Sehwag is right here. Her logic is flawed.
 
Gurmehar Kaur reacts to Virender Sehwag's tweet, says she is heart broken!

New Delhi: One day after Virender Sehwag replied to Gurmehar Kaur's 'palcard' act which stated "Pakistan did not kill my dad, war killed him", the Kargil martyr’s daughter said that she was heartbroken seeing such a reaction from one of his favourite cricketers.

"It broke my heart to see Sehwag's tweet. I looked up to him while I was growing up," Gurmehar was quoted saying by NDTV. "I am from Punjab, and went to the Mohali stadium where I yelled his name. Hence it is very disappointing to see such a tweet from him, to be honest," she added.

She concluded saying, "I hope they use that place (Twitter) for something other than spreading hate."

She also spoke to ANI regarding the former Indian cricketer's tweet saying, "I am heartbroken, these are the ppl you yell for in matches & they troll you at the expense of your father's death."

http://zeenews.india.com/cricket/gu...s-tweet-says-she-is-heart-broken_1981868.html
 
Having done my entire schooling from APS and having seen my friend lose his father in Kargil i can only have disdain for this girls opinion.But being a democratic country India gives her the right to her opinion.The same right also remains with Sehwag.The logic is totally flawed and makes no sense at all.

Btw Captain Mandeep Singh wasnt martyred in Kargil.He was martyred on August 1999 while fighting terrorists.
 
Begairath insaan who's desperate to keep himself in the limelight

One of the best openers of last 2 decades and someone who runs a very popular school in NCR.Mentors a IPL team and commentates doesnt need anyone to be in the limelight.
 
He is India's Afridi. A man who can hit the ball far and wide but never question his lack of common sense. It is never funny or amusing for dead soldiers when they are trolled. Classless act b y another immature man who can't grow up.
 
One of the best openers of last 2 decades and someone who runs a very popular school in NCR.Mentors a IPL team and commentates doesnt need anyone to be in the limelight.
Being a great cricketer does not necessarily mean that they are great human being. Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't one of India's finest (cricketers) involved with (some allege guilty of) two separate homicides? And now he's a national politician as well as a tv host/tv star?
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Here's to strong women...<br>May we know them.<br>May we be them.<br>May we raise them. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/GurmeharKaur?src=hash">#GurmeharKaur</a></p>— Aakash Chopra (@cricketaakash) <a href="https://twitter.com/cricketaakash/status/836247462817972224">February 27, 2017</a></blockquote>
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Being a great cricketer does not necessarily mean that they are great human being. Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't one of India's finest (cricketers) involved with (some allege guilty of) two separate homicides? And now he's a national politician as well as a tv host/tv star?

Accused of one culpable homicide in one case.Its pending in the supreme court which has suspended his verdict by the lower court.

Sehwag is a fine human being and does his bit for armed forces of Indian without publicity.Nothing wrong in what he said esp. Considering that the girl is part of a political party and used her martyred fathers name for publicity.
 
He is India's Afridi. A man who can hit the ball far and wide but never question his lack of common sense. It is never funny or amusing for dead soldiers when they are trolled. Classless act b y another immature man who can't grow up.

Which soldier did he troll?Read the Op.
 
Accused of one culpable homicide in one case.Its pending in the supreme court which has suspended his verdict by the lower court.
In other words you agree that someone can be a great cricket player and yet still be a vile human being.

Sehwag is a fine human being and does his bit for armed forces of Indian without publicity.Nothing wrong in what he said esp. Considering that the girl is part of a political party and used her martyred fathers name for publicity.
There's nothing fine about a famous cricketer making jokes at the expense of a 20 year old girl's way of coping with her father's loss (which as you've said was the result of terrorist action and not due to war with Pakistan, ie basically agreeing with the young girl).

If charity work was the sole criteria for a famous personality being a fine person, then by that criteria Jimmy Savile was also a 'fine human being' since he raised £ millions for charity, instead of being the paedophile who abused and raped vulnerable children that we now know he was.
 
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Shewag just made fun of her logic, which made no sense to begin with. It is same as saying my opinion matter, if you have anything against it, you are just a bully.
 
Shewag just made fun of her logic, which made no sense to begin with. It is same as saying my opinion matter, if you have anything against it, you are just a bully.
No. Sehwag made fun of the way she's trying to cope with the loss of her father.
 
Great comeback by Sehwag, this is how all patriotic Indians should be. Nothing against her but she should realize that her dad wouldn't have been happy to listen to her logic. Anyways great to see famous people like Sehwag making people aware of treachery going on.
 
Sehwag is a low intellect cheapo anyway.

Girl's message is that wars kill people and peace between the 2 nations will save many people like her father. This is obviously beyond comprehension of people like Sehwag.
 
In other words you agree that someone can be a great cricket player and yet still be a vile human being.

There's nothing fine about a famous cricketer making jokes at the expense of a 20 year old girl's way of coping with her father's loss (which as you've said was the result of terrorist action and not due to war with Pakistan, ie basically agreeing with the young girl).

If charity work was the sole criteria for a famous personality being a fine person, then by that criteria Jimmy Savile was also a 'fine human being' since he raised £ millions for charity, instead of being the paedophile who abused and raped vulnerable children that we now know he was.

Sidhu is accused not guilty and he has no significance here.

Secondly its sometimes better to know the whole story before commenting.

This girl claimed(sources say falsely)that she is a Kargil Martys daughter but Pakistan didnt kill her father war did.She has been making these political statements for some months now.She is part of a political party.Sehwag simply pointed the flaws in her logic.It only came out after the Sehwag incident that her claims of her father being a Kargil Martyr were apparently false.

This no coping mechanism but her political opinion and since this is on very sensitive subject everyone has the right to rebutt that opinion if they so desire.This girl dragged her martyr fatgers name to her politics.

Regarding being killed in terror action i believe Pakistan have accepted that these so called "mujhadeen" were supported by them.
 
Sehwag is a low intellect cheapo anyway.

Girl's message is that wars kill people and peace between the 2 nations will save many people like her father. This is obviously beyond comprehension of people like Sehwag.

Anyone who doesnt agree with your views is a cheapo low intellect.You do realise that to be a successful sportsman also you need above average intelligence.

War kills people.Someone tommorow will say Hitler didnt kill people second world war did.

When someone makes a political statement in a public place everyone has the right to react to it.
 
Sehwag has been playing to the galleries, especially the Modi worshippers. But targeting a college girl just to get likes and retweets is very low of him even by his standards. Shame I ever supported this guy.
 
Anyone who doesnt agree with your views is a cheapo low intellect.You do realise that to be a successful sportsman also you need above average intelligence.

War kills people.Someone tommorow will say Hitler didnt kill people second world war did.

When someone makes a political statement in a public place everyone has the right to react to it.

I agree with you, how can she take right of hatred away from people :)
 
Waiting for the time when political outfits are banned from Educational institutions.

All these Student Organizations like ABVP/SFI/AISF should be banned and anyone who raises slogans in college should be jailed.

Students can do whatever they want outside the 4 walls of the Schools/Colleges etc. When they are on campus politics should not be allowed. Worthless fools.

Was thinking the same yesterday,that how come people of 30 something are allowed to continue and be political leaders.
Apparently what ABVP is doing now Youth Congress did in late 70's ,its a never ending cycle of nonsense.
 
Sehwag and Randeep Hooda should had stayed out of it,she is a student of DU and because right now politics is allowed there she could indulge in it,they need to pick their battles wisely support ABVP and its goons is remarkbly stupid.

The girl was trying to promote peace,even England/America became friends ,40 years after the war ,within a generation,its mighty stupid what is happening among India-Pakistan,when she held that placard I supported here,the only problem was with the next one where she assumes only ABVP is doing this but every youth outfit is nothing but made of goons,she could had hopefully come out with a better message.
 
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I think he is trolling the gal whose Dad was killed in the Kargil war.

In that logic many can claim she is utilizing her dad to get fame,what she tried to do was to create peace but it was flawed obviously,probably her intentions were right.
 
Accused of one culpable homicide in one case.Its pending in the supreme court which has suspended his verdict by the lower court.

Sehwag is a fine human being and does his bit for armed forces of Indian without publicity.Nothing wrong in what he said esp. Considering that the girl is part of a political party and used her martyred fathers name for publicity.

Proof please.
 
Sehwag and Randeep Hooda should had stayed out of it,she is a student of DU and because right now politics is allowed there she could indulge in it,they need to pick their battles wisely support ABVP and its goons is remarkbly stupid.

The girl was trying to promote peace,even England/America became friends ,40 years after the war ,within a generation,its mighty stupid what is happening among India-Pakistan,when she held that placard I supported here,the only problem was with the next one where she assumes only ABVP is doing this but every youth outfit is nothing but made of goons,she could had hopefully come out with a better message.

It was ABVP who attacked students in Ramjas college recently, so I dont see anything wrong in her pinning ABVP. You dont need to be politically correct always.
 
Anyone who goes against BJP/ABVP becomes anti national and a traitor automatically. Since, this girl's father was a martyr, calling her anti national wouldn't have worked. So, they are trying to label her as a political pawn who is using her father for publicity.
 
Pakistan was the aggressor during Kargil.Her dad was merely defending his homeland.So yes she's wrong when she says that war killed her dad.Brainwashed upper class idiots.Believing in utopian ideals with absolutely no idea of ground realities.
 
It was ABVP who attacked students in Ramjas college recently, so I dont see anything wrong in her pinning ABVP. You dont need to be politically correct always.

ABVP just didn't march into the college campus and started beating around students randomly.They were opposing a seminar organized by Umar Khalid who I'm sure you have heard of.It was the duty of administration to not to allow such anti national activities on the campus.Things got escalated afterwards and ABVP bore the brunt of pseudo liberals like you .
 
Proof please.

She's a part of AISA and SFI or do you really think she just happened to be present there while ABVP massacred those innocent students just like a kashmiri kid in a middle of a protest against Indian army.Surely you can't be that stupid.
 
This is expected from a clown like sehwag
Did you even try to google what the whole story was about or just randomly jumped to conclusions just like you do whenever anyone so much as whispers bollywood on this forum.
 
ABVP just didn't march into the college campus and started beating around students randomly.They were opposing a seminar organized by Umar Khalid who I'm sure you have heard of.It was the duty of administration to not to allow such anti national activities on the campus.Things got escalated afterwards and ABVP bore the brunt of pseudo liberals like you .

How do you define anti national? Because he allegedly called Afzal guru a martyr? By the same logic, BJP too is anti national because they are in bed with PDP who also call Afzal guru a martyr.

And did you not hear the news about BJP IT cell member working for ISI? Or have they banned news channels in your shakha?
 
How do you define anti national? Because he allegedly called Afzal guru a martyr? By the same logic, BJP too is anti national because they are in bed with PDP who also call Afzal guru a martyr.

And did you not hear the news about BJP IT cell member working for ISI? Or have they banned news channels in your shakha?
He's an anti national because he doesn't consider Kashmir an integrated part of India.And stop changing goal posts. wth has BJP got to do with this?
 
How do you define anti national? Because he allegedly called Afzal guru a martyr? By the same logic, BJP too is anti national because they are in bed with PDP who also call Afzal guru a martyr.

And did you not hear the news about BJP IT cell member working for ISI? Or have they banned news channels in your shakha?
Oh and don't worry about our shakhas.Our people are at the forefront whenever there's any natural calamity or a disaster helping the affected without any bias.But it's like wasting time arguing with likes of you, sitting in an air conditioned office and believing in everything they show on tv.
 
Oh and don't worry about our shakhas.Our people are at the forefront whenever there's any natural calamity or a disaster helping the affected without any bias.
Many Pakistanis present similar arguments in support of Hafeez Saeed.

But it's like wasting time arguing with likes of you, sitting in an air conditioned office and believing in everything they show on tv.

Atleast I dont pretend to be a psuedo nationalist and start branding people as anti national.
 
Many Pakistanis present similar arguments in support of Hafeez Saeed.



Atleast I dont pretend to be a psuedo nationalist and start branding people as anti national.
You showed your ignorance here when you compared RSS to organization of a person declared by UN as terrorist and mastermind behind Mumbai attacks.
And no one is branding any tom dick or Harry as anti national without any proof.I gave you valid reason why I consider likes of Umar Khalid as traitors. You tell me, do you hold the same views as him on Kashmir too?
 
You showed your ignorance here when you compared RSS to organization of a person declared by UN as terrorist and mastermind behind Mumbai attacks.
And no one is branding any tom dick or Harry as anti national without any proof.I gave you valid reason why I consider likes of Umar Khalid as traitors. You tell me, do you hold the same views as him on Kashmir too?

I just pointed out the fallacy of your argument that since an organization has been involved in helping people, it is beyond criticism and gives them the right to start branding people as anti national.

As for your second question, first answer me, do you consider BJP and PDP as anti national parties for holding these views on Afzal Guru?
 
I just pointed out the fallacy of your argument that since an organization has been involved in helping people, it is beyond criticism and gives them the right to start branding people as anti national.

As for your second question, first answer me, do you consider BJP and PDP as anti national parties for holding these views on Afzal Guru?

Your argument would have been valid had RSS been engaged in such activities as bombing other nationals and organising training camps for muzzahidins and what not.So your basic premise is flawed.
And re your question, I don't give a flying fark about BJP and PDP.They are political parties and to expect something from them is waste of time.
 
She's a part of AISA and SFI or do you really think she just happened to be present there while ABVP massacred those innocent students just like a kashmiri kid in a middle of a protest against Indian army.Surely you can't be that stupid.

I missed this post. I am aware why she was there. I was asking for a proof that she was using her father's martyrdom for political reasons.

Here's a transcript of her full video message.

“Hi &#55357;&#56898; My name is Gurmehar Kaur. I am from Jalandhar, India. This is my dad Capt. Mandeep Singh. He was killed in the 1999 Kargil War. I was 2 years old when he died. I have very few memories of him. I have more memories of how it feels NOT to have a father. I also remember how much I used to hate Pakistan & Pakistanis because they killed my Dad. I used to hate Muslims too because I thought all Muslims are Pakistanis. When I was 6 years old, I tried to stab a lady in a burkha. Because for some strange reason, I thought she was responsible for my father’s death. My mother held me back and made me understand that Pakistan did not kill my dad, war killed him. It took me a while to know but today I do. I have learnt to let go of my hate. It was not easy but its not difficult. If I can do it, so can you. Today, I am a soldier too, just like my dad. I fight for peace between India and Pakistan. Because if there was no war between us, my father would still be here. I am making this video because I want the Governments of both countries to stop pretending and solve the problem. If France & Germany can become friends after 2 World Wars, if Japan & USA can put their past behind and work towards progress, then why can’t we?? Majority of regular Indians and Pakistanis want peace, not war. I am questioning the calibre of leadership of both nations. We cannot dream of becoming a first world country with third world leadership. Please pull your socks up. Talk to each other and get the job done.Enough state sponsored terrorism. Enough state-sponsored spies. Enough state-sponsored hatred. Enough people have died on both sides of the border. Enough is Enough. I wish to live in a world where there are no Gurmehar Kaurs who miss their Dad. I am not alone, there are many like me. #ProfileForPeace”.

Doesnt seem political to me.
 
Your argument would have been valid had RSS been engaged in such activities as bombing other nationals and organising training camps for muzzahidins and what not.So your basic premise is flawed.
And re your question, I don't give a flying fark about BJP and PDP.They are political parties and to expect something from them is waste of time.

So, doesnt it expose ABVP's hypocrisy? I haven't seen them question BJP's patriotism.

And all said and done, nothing gave ABVP the right to take law in their hands and beat up students.
 
So, doesnt it expose ABVP's hypocrisy? I haven't seen them question BJP's patriotism.

And all said and done, nothing gave ABVP the right to take law in their hands and beat up students.
They do it many times.It just doesn't feature in news much as it doesn't serve the vested interests of those in power.
Agree with your second statement.They shouldn't have taken law into their hands.It was the responsibility of administration to not to allow such kind of anti national seminars in college campus fully knowing beforehand that it would lead to massive protests and even violence as we saw happened anyway.
 
I missed this post. I am aware why she was there. I was asking for a proof that she was using her father's martyrdom for political reasons.

Here's a transcript of her full video message.



Doesnt seem political to me.

Pakistan was the aggressor in Kargil conflict.This girl make it sound as if India invaded Pakistan.As I mentioned before she's a part of class having a world view of ideals bordering on utopia which makes zero sense in this age.Just another brainwashed youth by commies.
 
Pity.indian polity is really getting parochial and ultra jingoistic with every passing day.
 
It was ABVP who attacked students in Ramjas college recently, so I dont see anything wrong in her pinning ABVP. You dont need to be politically correct always.

Yes but its the culture of it,similar things happened with Tarak Fatah but liberal media blamed him,the issue is again why are youth allowed to indulge in this politics,we all know about JNU situation.

There needs to be a balance its either of extremes right now,ABVP is undoubtedly filled with goons but others are as well.
 
Here's a transcript of her full video message.

“Hi �� My name is Gurmehar Kaur. I am from Jalandhar, India. This is my dad Capt. Mandeep Singh. He was killed in the 1999 Kargil War. I was 2 years old when he died. I have very few memories of him. I have more memories of how it feels NOT to have a father. I also remember how much I used to hate Pakistan & Pakistanis because they killed my Dad. I used to hate Muslims too because I thought all Muslims are Pakistanis. When I was 6 years old, I tried to stab a lady in a burkha. Because for some strange reason, I thought she was responsible for my father’s death. My mother held me back and made me understand that Pakistan did not kill my dad, war killed him. It took me a while to know but today I do. I have learnt to let go of my hate. It was not easy but its not difficult. If I can do it, so can you. Today, I am a soldier too, just like my dad. I fight for peace between India and Pakistan. Because if there was no war between us, my father would still be here. I am making this video because I want the Governments of both countries to stop pretending and solve the problem. If France & Germany can become friends after 2 World Wars, if Japan & USA can put their past behind and work towards progress, then why can’t we?? Majority of regular Indians and Pakistanis want peace, not war. I am questioning the calibre of leadership of both nations. We cannot dream of becoming a first world country with third world leadership. Please pull your socks up. Talk to each other and get the job done.Enough state sponsored terrorism. Enough state-sponsored spies. Enough state-sponsored hatred. Enough people have died on both sides of the border. Enough is Enough. I wish to live in a world where there are no Gurmehar Kaurs who miss their Dad. I am not alone, there are many like me. #ProfileForPeace”.

Doesnt seem political to me.
She's obviously motivated by the loss of her father she suffered at a very young age, and the after effects of the resulting trauma, and is simply trying to do her little bit to prevent other little girls from losing their fathers in similar circumstances.

For a famous cricketer to then troll her, for having the audacity to hope and wish for peace, is truly despicable. What a vile excuse for a human being.
 
She's obviously motivated by the loss of her father she suffered at a very young age, and the after effects of the resulting trauma, and is simply trying to do her little bit to prevent other little girls from losing their fathers in similar circumstances.

For a famous cricketer to then troll her, for having the audacity to hope and wish for peace, is truly despicable. What a vile excuse for a human being.

Couldn't have said it better myself.

You have to be thick to troll a fallen soldier's daughter. The man didn't give his life so you'd go after his daughter in such a manner.

I'm surprised anyone would condone this regardless of their viewpoint.
 
Couldn't have said it better myself.

You have to be thick to troll a fallen soldier's daughter. The man didn't give his life so you'd go after his daughter in such a manner.

I'm surprised anyone would condone this regardless of their viewpoint.
There are plenty condoning Sehwag's vile and despicable actions in this very thread. The usual suspects I may add.
 
Sehwag and Randeep Hooda should had stayed out of it,she is a student of DU and because right now politics is allowed there she could indulge in it,they need to pick their battles wisely support ABVP and its goons is remarkbly stupid.

The girl was trying to promote peace,even England/America became friends ,40 years after the war ,within a generation,its mighty stupid what is happening among India-Pakistan,when she held that placard I supported here,the only problem was with the next one where she assumes only ABVP is doing this but every youth outfit is nothing but made of goons,she could had hopefully come out with a better message.

This isnt about DU.Thats a separate issue altogether.
 
How do you define anti national? Because he allegedly called Afzal guru a martyr? By the same logic, BJP too is anti national because they are in bed with PDP who also call Afzal guru a martyr.

And did you not hear the news about BJP IT cell member working for ISI? Or have they banned news channels in your shakha?

Let me tell you a few things.AISA the leftist union of JNUSU protested and stopped a lecture by Ramdev on Yoga in JNU.They also stopped a lecture by Maj Gen GD Bakshi.Their claim was that since they are elected union they represent majority of students.

The elected union at Ramjas is ABVP and by a landslide.They protested againist Umar Khalids presence at RamJas.The small band of AISA students (Umar Khalid is a member of AISA) started a protest march where they again shouted the same slogans that they did at JNU.

They wanted a confrontation to start and then cry victim.The days of such nautanki are over in India.
 
She's obviously motivated by the loss of her father she suffered at a very young age, and the after effects of the resulting trauma, and is simply trying to do her little bit to prevent other little girls from losing their fathers in similar circumstances.

For a famous cricketer to then troll her, for having the audacity to hope and wish for peace, is truly despicable. What a vile excuse for a human being.

There are enough martyr's sons daughters parents who have come and condemned the statement of this girl.You make a political statement from a political platform you open yourself to the reaction.

There is widespread condemnation of her statement for insulting martyrs from various martyrs families.Viru is not alone.
 
Doesn't matter whether Sehwag's viewpoint is right or wrong.

His actions to troll this lady is despicable.

This is a new low.

The lady's viewpoint may be too idealistic but its not hard to put oneself in her shoes and see why she said that. Doesn't mean its necessarily right (cos the world is more complicated and everything ain't black and white) but its an understandable viewpoint nonetheless.

It was very easy for her to hate Pakistan for what happened to her dad but instead she rises above it.

To mock that is just sad.
 
There are enough martyr's sons daughters parents who have come and condemned the statement of this girl.You make a political statement from a political platform you open yourself to the reaction.

There is widespread condemnation of her statement for insulting martyrs from various martyrs families.Viru is not alone.
Typical response. A girl want's peace, and doesn't wish to see others lose their fathers as she did at a very young age, and that should be condemned? If there were more in this world like this young girl, the world would be a far better place. But that would displease warmongers everywhere, for it would deprive them of the power they hold and which gives them a high. That of riling up hatred of others to compensate for their own emotional inadequacies.
 
There are enough martyr's sons daughters parents who have come and condemned the statement of this girl.You make a political statement from a political platform you open yourself to the reaction.

There is widespread condemnation of her statement for insulting martyrs from various martyrs families.Viru is not alone.

There's a right and wrong way of presenting one's viewpoint. Twitter trolling like Sehwag falls in the latter category.

Can one get blinded by their viewpoint to such an extent they insult/troll/bully a fallen soldier's daughter? I'm sorry but that's utterly unacceptable.

It's just common decency.
 
Yes i know, but this thread is not about religion ..

This quote is for Pakistani nationalists too.

No need to rile up.

Its not about riling its about being hypocritical when nationalism and religion are jus two sides of the same coin used to discriminate for centuries.
 
[MENTION=2099]Cricket[/MENTION]joshilla and [MENTION=139682]LastManstanding[/MENTION] it doesn't matter whether its abvp or leftist students union they are both filled with goons you choosing either one side is flawed because these are same youth leaders that will use violence in the name of nationalism and socialism but its mere politics that is destroying the educational institutes here.
 
There's a right and wrong way of presenting one's viewpoint. Twitter trolling like Sehwag falls in the latter category.

Can one get blinded by their viewpoint to such an extent they insult/troll/bully a fallen soldier's daughter? I'm sorry but that's utterly unacceptable.

It's just common decency.

If i am Martyrs kin i can make any political statement and get away with it?

There are other martyrs family who felt insulted due to this.Are their feelings any less?

This is a political move.please dont mistake it for something else.
 
Let me tell you a few things.AISA the leftist union of JNUSU protested and stopped a lecture by Ramdev on Yoga in JNU.They also stopped a lecture by Maj Gen GD Bakshi.Their claim was that since they are elected union they represent majority of students.

The elected union at Ramjas is ABVP and by a landslide.They protested againist Umar Khalids presence at RamJas.The small band of AISA students (Umar Khalid is a member of AISA) started a protest march where they again shouted the same slogans that they did at JNU.

They wanted a confrontation to start and then cry victim.The days of such nautanki are over in India.

[MENTION=2099]Cricket[/MENTION]joshilla and [MENTION=139682]LastManstanding[/MENTION] it doesn't matter whether its abvp or leftist students union they are both filled with goons you choosing either one side is flawed because these are same youth leaders that will use violence in the name of nationalism and socialism but its mere politics that is destroying the educational institutes here.

Umar Khalid, Kanhaiya Kumar and his supporters can go to hell as far as I am concerned and I am not here to defend anyone. It was ABVP which turned these empty headed demagogues into heroes. My beef here is only with these self appointed thekedaars of nationalism who think chanting "Bharat Mata ki Jai " gives them the right to take law in their hands.
 
Gotta love people who go on about their respective countries' proud democratic tradition and then, in the same breath, say things like "oh he's anti-national, he should be banned", I mean seriously, what the you know what(see, free speech, "you know what" is totally what I intended to say)? You can't have it both ways on this, if you're going to portray yourselves as champions of free speech, have the backbone to let those who speak up against the state say what they want and counter them with facts and well reasoned arguments instead of shutting them down because if you need to resort to censorship, you're no better than places like Pakistan and followers of a certain religion that the RSS types love. I speak from experience because I'm basically the Pakistani equivalent of what Indians call "anti-national" so I understand the motivations behind the actions of both the anti nationals and those who try to shut them down, the latter being the lowest tier of hypocrites on RNGesus' green earth.

As far as Sehwag is concerned, he's known for having Afridi levels of lack of control over what he says but his twitter account is handled by someone else, a someone else who happens to be a big time BJP lackey so it's hardly surprising that it leans heavily to the right.
 
Umar Khalid, Kanhaiya Kumar and his supporters can go to hell as far as I am concerned and I am not here to defend anyone. It was ABVP which turned these empty headed demagogues into heroes. My beef here is only with these self appointed thekedaars of nationalism who think chanting "Bharat Mata ki Jai " gives them the right to take law in their hands.

The leftist student union gets away with it as well and undoubtedly ABVP are bunch of goons.

The problem is the system of it ,today ABVP tmrw AISA ,yesteryears it was youth Congress.
 
Gotta love people who go on about their respective countries' proud democratic tradition and then, in the same breath, say things like "oh he's anti-national, he should be banned", I mean seriously, what the you know what(see, free speech, "you know what" is totally what I intended to say)? You can't have it both ways on this, if you're going to portray yourselves as champions of free speech, have the backbone to let those who speak up against the state say what they want and counter them with facts and well reasoned arguments instead of shutting them down because if you need to resort to censorship, you're no better than places like Pakistan and followers of a certain religion that the RSS types love. I speak from experience because I'm basically the Pakistani equivalent of what Indians call "anti-national" so I understand the motivations behind the actions of both the anti nationals and those who try to shut them down, the latter being the lowest tier of hypocrites on RNGesus' green earth.

As far as Sehwag is concerned, he's known for having Afridi levels of lack of control over what he says but his twitter account is handled by someone else, a someone else who happens to be a big time BJP lackey so it's hardly surprising that it leans heavily to the right.

Sehwag isnt the only one.Other Martyrs families have same views.
 
Umar Khalid, Kanhaiya Kumar and his supporters can go to hell as far as I am concerned and I am not here to defend anyone. It was ABVP which turned these empty headed demagogues into heroes. My beef here is only with these self appointed thekedaars of nationalism who think chanting "Bharat Mata ki Jai " gives them the right to take law in their hands.

Problem is that according to some people only leftist liberals have the right to freedom of expression and protest.If ABVP does it its goondaism.
 
[MENTION=26195]DW44[/MENTION], There are various issues here ,Sehwag and Randeep did troll a girl and it was stupid of them to involve themselves in it but again its the level of freedom of speec being criticized by liberal media,second being the goon attitude of ABVP(literally youth BJP) and them creating ruckus also being criticized by media and rightly so.

Now there is an old post (IIRC)of the girl ABOUT how war killed her father and not Pakistan ,flawed logic but freedom of speec and she was only trying peomote peace,this wasn't criticized by the Conservatives before but now after she did the same with ABVP its coming out in a negative manner.

Its not black and white as its being assumed.
 
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