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Vote of no-confidence crisis: Is military rule a possibility in Pakistan?

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Seems that impasse will continue through the night and could force the hand of the military.

If that does happen it will be sad.

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I will accept anything other than imported Mafia coup.

Yup I'd rather he brings down the entire system then give these filth another chance to rule.

Shehbaz said beggars can't be choosers. Who's made us beggers. Who's ruled us for decades. It's not PTI.
 
Wow, so overseas pakistanis want pakistan to suffer under milltary rule :facepalm:

If imrans actions causes this, he would become the most hated pm to ever existed
 
Funny thing is the cant accept comments are coming from those poster who never plan to live in pakistan and live in foreign countries...
 
Wow, so overseas pakistanis want pakistan to suffer under milltary rule :facepalm:

If imrans actions causes this, he would become the most hated pm to ever existed

That do not want mafia to come but they are not thinking this would end IK's political career.
 
That do not want mafia to come but they are not thinking this would end IK's political career.

If this happens, imran would fall in the category of zia, mussharaffe co. And people used to wish for their death.

Pti fans have just gone crazy, these people living inforeign lands want us locals to live under millitary so that their faourite cricketer can be pm.


This is like me wanting misbah to be made pm of pakistan by bring in a millitary coup which is just wrong as we live in a democracy
 
If this happens, imran would fall in the category of zia, mussharaffe co. And people used to wish for their death.

Pti fans have just gone crazy, these people living inforeign lands want us locals to live under millitary so that their faourite cricketer can be pm.


This is like me wanting misbah to be made pm of pakistan by bring in a millitary coup which is just wrong as we live in a democracy

what has happened to PTI though?

Till today, I would have kind of understood the stupid drama they created but that was not a big issue. But today, it is a hostage situation.

Looking at IK, this desperation surprised even me.
 
The military stepping in would not be Imrans fault, no matter what the PTI haters will say.

The militaries job is to defend the borders not speed up political process.

If they enter the fray it will be at behest of PDM.
 
Wow, so overseas pakistanis want pakistan to suffer under milltary rule :facepalm:

If imrans actions causes this, he would become the most hated pm to ever existed

Overseas Pakistanis who have a moral obligation and pay millions in remittance, whilst you openly support murderers, thieves and basically justify their actions.

Imran actions have been clear, it's the PDM who need to answer for their actions to overthrow a democratic elected government with the assistance from their pay masters. Hence showbaz admitting to "beggars can't be choosers "
 
The military stepping in would not be Imrans fault, no matter what the PTI haters will say.

The militaries job is to defend the borders not speed up political process.

If they enter the fray it will be at behest of PDM.

Yep. They say they are "neutral". So stay "neutral" and don't enter a political dispute.
 
The military has learnt a clear lesson. If you select a clown you will get a circus. Transfer of power can be very complicated thing with wrong persons incharge.
 
what has happened to PTI though?

Till today, I would have kind of understood the stupid drama they created but that was not a big issue. But today, it is a hostage situation.

Looking at IK, this desperation surprised even me.

Its called Political Theater. Why are they not allowed to do something which all political parties do across the world?
 
The military has learnt a clear lesson. If you select a clown you will get a circus. Transfer of power can be very complicated thing with wrong persons incharge.

Or someone that has called an election which your boys are kacking their pants about.
 
If this happens, imran would fall in the category of zia, mussharaffe co. And people used to wish for their death.

Pti fans have just gone crazy, these people living inforeign lands want us locals to live under millitary so that their faourite cricketer can be pm.


This is like me wanting misbah to be made pm of pakistan by bring in a millitary coup which is just wrong as we live in a democracy

Zardaris have looted karachi for decades, murder rates were shockingly high for decades, you are sounding like a munafiq .
 
what has happened to PTI though?

Till today, I would have kind of understood the stupid drama they created but that was not a big issue. But today, it is a hostage situation.

Looking at IK, this desperation surprised even me.

What did he do? Didn't he call an election. Indians , mafia and mafia on the same page.
 
Its called Political Theater. Why are they not allowed to do something which all political parties do across the world?

Because there is a supreme court order in place. On other days, you may create whatever drama you want to but when there is a supreme court order, it should be honored.
 
what has happened to PTI though?

Till today, I would have kind of understood the stupid drama they created but that was not a big issue. But today, it is a hostage situation.

Looking at IK, this desperation surprised even me.

You clearly haven't followed imrans fight against the mafia then.
 
If this happens, imran would fall in the category of zia, mussharaffe co. And people used to wish for their death.

Pti fans have just gone crazy, these people living inforeign lands want us locals to live under millitary so that their faourite cricketer can be pm.


This is like me wanting misbah to be made pm of pakistan by bring in a millitary coup which is just wrong as we live in a democracy

You sound more and more desperate. He is doing what he can to stop PK falling into Foreign hands. Its the least he should do. If this was AZ, he would have had the opposition murdered. All the journalist did was to reveal that your crooks needed a rent a crowd, whatever happened to him
 
Because there is a supreme court order in place. On other days, you may create whatever drama you want to but when there is a supreme court order, it should be honored.

They are honoring it imo. The order says NCM must start at 10:30 am. They started it. Let everyone get a chance to speak. A couple of more days wont kill anyone.
 
You clearly haven't followed imrans fight against the mafia then.

Even if he is the DARK KNIGHT against mafia, his current act shows that he doesn't care about the country and its people. What he does is to fulfil his ego, his presentation. If something good comes out of it while the feedng the ego, then it is an added bonus.
 
Pakistanis should keep a stock of rotten eggs to throw at their army in case they decide to show up.

Send them back to the border where they belong. Their cushy vacation homes in California are last on the priority list, first being the country itself.
 
They are honoring it imo. The order says NCM must start at 10:30 am. They started it. Let everyone get a chance to speak. A couple of more days wont kill anyone.

well, SC will intervene eventually if it goes on. it is just waste of time.
 
Pakistanis should keep a stock of rotten eggs to throw at their army in case they decide to show up.

Send them back to the border where they belong. Their cushy vacation homes in California are last on the priority list, first being the country itself.

We are keeping them for imran
 
They are honoring it imo. The order says NCM must start at 10:30 am. They started it. Let everyone get a chance to speak. A couple of more days wont kill anyone.

The Inds are getting desperate. We can see what Foreign powers and internal **** he is up against
 
The Inds are getting desperate. We can see what Foreign powers and internal **** he is up against

Not gonna lie, for me, it is like a t20 game right now.... anything can happen. Twist and turn who will want to miss this?
 
Not gonna lie, for me, it is like a t20 game right now.... anything can happen. Twist and turn who will want to miss this?

As I said before IK mentioned 3 countries that had a hand in this coup, I think we are seeing the clews on here
 
Even if he is the DARK KNIGHT against mafia, his current act shows that he doesn't care about the country and its people. What he does is to fulfil his ego, his presentation. If something good comes out of it while the feedng the ego, then it is an added bonus.

Not surprised that indians showing their emotions in pakistan politics as Imran seems to be the enemy of your state.

What imran is doing now is setting a precedence against the mafia, corrupt political system, and even the law and order of the supreme courts who have betrayed the 22qaror Awaam.
 
Not gonna lie, for me, it is like a t20 game right now.... anything can happen. Twist and turn who will want to miss this?

No this is a Test match and PTI is down to the last wicket and they are chasing an impossible total with too many balls left to get a draw. All they can do now is Tuk Tuk to annoy the opponent.
 
Yea that might be the plan. Keep on talking until SC says you cant talk anymore.

The SC couldn't give justice to the 14 murdered by SS but do have time to open on Sundays to judge parliamentary proceedings which they themselves say they are forbidden from doing
 
The military has learnt a clear lesson. If you select a clown you will get a circus. Transfer of power can be very complicated thing with wrong persons incharge.

So what you're saying is that the sc is always right but electoral commission is rigged?
Honestly mate, pick a line and stick to it.
 
The SC couldn't give justice to the 14 murdered by SS but do have time to open on Sundays to judge parliamentary proceedings which they themselves say they are forbidden from doing

I would get it if they get involved after a few days, but right now its not even 24 hours. The unhonorable SC should wait a bit.
 
Must confess, these Pakistani politicians have made mockery out their country’s fledgling democracy.

A no confidence motion is a very simple Procedure and the way it’s been handled is shambolic and will hurt the countries democracy in the long run. all parties need to take some blame but most of it goes to Imran Khan.

If military take power again IK will need to take the blame taking the country back at least a decade.
 
If Bajwa has been removed then it depends on what the rank and file army officers do.

Things are evenly poised at the moment.
 
Must confess, these Pakistani politicians have made mockery out their country’s fledgling democracy.

A no confidence motion is a very simple Procedure and the way it’s been handled is shambolic and will hurt the countries democracy in the long run. all parties need to take some blame but most of it goes to Imran Khan.

If military take power again IK will need to take the blame taking the country back at least a decade.

This.

What a circus. Imran Khan's cricket career was before my time, but looking at the intellect of his actions in his prime ministerial career I doubt he was too flash and maybe his numbers flatter him.
 
This.

What a circus. Imran Khan's cricket career was before my time, but looking at the intellect of his actions in his prime ministerial career I doubt he was too flash and maybe his numbers flatter him.

Imran likes limelight and after his cricket career it was this pmship that gave him limelight. He cant let go..
 
This.

What a circus. Imran Khan's cricket career was before my time, but looking at the intellect of his actions in his prime ministerial career I doubt he was too flash and maybe his numbers flatter him.

You mean calling an election is anti democracy. You guys and your desperation shows. Btw IK is one of the best ever. Ask any of your players
 
At least he didn't come into politics as a selected child by Daddy and dead mummy.

I think Imran made new daddies with Tareen who used to fund his bani gala house...

Paiso ke pechay baap he badaldey
 
The history of Sharifs started from boot likcing of Gen. Jilani then making Gen ZIA their father and Dar the robber doing all gimmicky of money laundering to Qatari letter and so and so on and SS eating earthquake victims aid and his hen son just wiping out all poultry owners in lahore a long lost of their dubious activities
 
There are rules and he has to follow the rules. Thats how democracy works.

Right now Imran isn't acting like a democratic PM.

What has he done that is undemocratic?

Should PTI parliamentarians revoke their right to speak so you can be happy?

Should he refuse to engage the speaker of the house and the chief justice if he feels he has evidence of foregn conspiracies?

What exactly has he done wrong here
 
A military coup is a million times better than getting the zardaris and not so shareefs back in power
 
On social media all these Army haters are now against Bajwa being fired now. Now no more civilian supremacy demand.

IK is still PM right now.
 
ISLAMABAD: Prime Minister Imran Khan has dismissed reports claiming that he has removed Chief of Army Staff General Qamar Javed Bajwa, reliable sources told Geo News.

Sources told Geo News that PM Imran Khan, in a conversation with senior journalists, said that he has no plans to make changes to the defence department.

“There was neither any talk of dismissing the army chief nor was this on the cards,” PM Imran told journalists. "I will do my job as per the law and in line with the Constitution," the PM was quoted as saying.

When asked about the no-confidence motion, PM Imran repeated that he would not accept defeat at “any cost”.

“I will not let this foreign conspiracy succeed,” PM Imran said, adding that he has neither accepted defeat in the past nor will he accept defeat now.

“I swear I will never betray Pakistan,” the premier said. "I will attend the National Assembly session."

PM Khan further reiterated that despite him being alone, he will continue to fight for the nation and “will never compromise.”

Regarding the federal cabinet meeting, the premier said that whenever a meeting is called rumours start spreading, clarifying that no changes are being made.

PM Imran Khan said that he would "never allow external conspiracy to succeed."

Answering a question related to the alleged “threat letter”, PM Imran said that he will show the memo to Chief Justice Umar Ata Bandial, Chairman Senate Sadiq Sanjrani, COAS General Qamar Javed Bajwa, and Chairman Joint Chiefs of Staff Committee General Nadeem Raza.

The premier mentioned that the letter has all the details of the meeting with the US diplomat, adding that no hurdles will be created in the assembly proceedings; however, he acknowledged the fact that the Opposition can put him in jail.

https://www.geo.tv/latest/410562-pm...g-dismissal-of-coas-general-qamar-javed-bajwa
 
What has he done that is undemocratic?

Should PTI parliamentarians revoke their right to speak so you can be happy?

Should he refuse to engage the speaker of the house and the chief justice if he feels he has evidence of foregn conspiracies?

What exactly has he done wrong here

He is facing a NCM. That has to be voted upon and decided.
 
He is facing a NCM. That has to be voted upon and decided.

It will, or the courts will decrare elections.

Just because the timing of PTI MNA' speeches doesn't suit you, doesn't mean that the PTI MNA's and Imran are wrong.

If you want democracy then let it play out.

He is not doing anything illegal.
 
You mean calling an election is anti democracy. You guys and your desperation shows. Btw IK is one of the best ever. Ask any of your players

I cannot believe someone living in the UK has no idea of politics and democracy.

IK had the simplest of the jobs. Give the reins to the opposition, and see them implode (and they will as they have nothing in common) and he could have simply swept the next elections.

He could have shown himself to be the bigger man (I also insist that he has the best intentions, but is incompetent. He can fix that by getting more competent people in thr government).

But now, he has shown that he is corrupt too. Corrupt and hungry for power, so much so, that he is willing to bring disrepute to country’s democracy.
 
I cannot believe someone living in the UK has no idea of politics and democracy.

IK had the simplest of the jobs. Give the reins to the opposition, and see them implode (and they will as they have nothing in common) and he could have simply swept the next elections.

He could have shown himself to be the bigger man (I also insist that he has the best intentions, but is incompetent. He can fix that by getting more competent people in thr government).

But now, he has shown that he is corrupt too. Corrupt and hungry for power, so much so, that he is willing to bring disrepute to country’s democracy.

Has he done anything illegal or undemocratic?
 
Has he done anything illegal or undemocratic?

By delaying NCM for so long, he might have forced the hand of the army and the SC again. This could have dire consequences for the democratic process of Pakistan. A constitutional or a democratic crisis weakens those institutions and reduces faith in the democratic process. It is being slowly chipped away by Imran.

Pakistan's democracy is fledgling. only 10 years long. It needs time to mature and not Brought into disrepute. There are issues with the democracy which will be fixed if it is allowed to continue. By trying to keep IK on for another week you are letting go of long term improvement for short term wins.

And you know what, the opposition was going to implode. You cannot have a coalition of liberal-conservative, secular-islamist and regional entities. IK would have simply come back after 1 year and swept the elections.

But, in any case, aren't you Scottish? So does it really matter to you whether there is democracy in Pakistan?
 
It will, or the courts will decrare elections.

Just because the timing of PTI MNA' speeches doesn't suit you, doesn't mean that the PTI MNA's and Imran are wrong.

If you want democracy then let it play out.

He is not doing anything illegal.

Why will the court declare elections when the house term hasn't ended and opposition has the numbers to form a government?

The supreme court has said that voting has to be completed today.
 
By delaying NCM for so long, he might have forced the hand of the army and the SC again. This could have dire consequences for the democratic process of Pakistan. A constitutional or a democratic crisis weakens those institutions and reduces faith in the democratic process. It is being slowly chipped away by Imran.

Pakistan's democracy is fledgling. only 10 years long. It needs time to mature and not Brought into disrepute. There are issues with the democracy which will be fixed if it is allowed to continue. By trying to keep IK on for another week you are letting go of long term improvement for short term wins.

And you know what, the opposition was going to implode. You cannot have a coalition of liberal-conservative, secular-islamist and regional entities. IK would have simply come back after 1 year and swept the elections.

But, in any case, aren't you Scottish? So does it really matter to you whether there is democracy in Pakistan?

If it doesn't matter to me it shouldnt matter to you lol
 
If it doesn't matter to me it shouldnt matter to you lol

It doesn't matter in the short run to me. But it does in the long run.

A stable democracy in the long run in Pakistan could hopefully lead to trade between India and Pakistan, which will lead to alleviation of poverty further, allowing my stocks (and the company I work for) to sore even higher.

But, I enjoyed what IK did for now. Since the end of party-gate, there hasnt been much political action for me (not into Ukraine - Russia topic much). I will have to wait another 2-3 months before one of BoJo's scandals break again. But until then at least IK has kept me entertained.
 
BBC Urdu is saying that IK tried to sack Bajwa. Others, including IK have said this is fale, however here is the article using Google Translate

What happened at the Prime Minister's House on Saturday night?

Amid the uproar of the no-confidence motion against the Prime Minister, extraordinary activity took place in the Prime Minister's House on Saturday night, during which some historic decisions and events took place, some in front of the cameras and most in closed rooms. Parliament House was the center of activity throughout the day on Saturday, with speeches sometimes held and meetings adjourned, with government and opposition members holding talks between the Speaker and the National Assembly. But in the evening, when the National Assembly session was adjourned for Iftar, the center of activity suddenly became the Prime Minister's House. Prime Minister Imran Khan convened an emergency meeting of the federal cabinet, along with his legal and political advisers, the speaker and deputy speaker, and some bureaucrats.

The cabinet meeting approved the release of the alleged cable to some officials, which former Prime Minister Imran Khan said contained details of a US plot to overthrow his government. Meanwhile, the Speaker of the National Assembly and the Deputy Speaker also reached the Prime Minister's House but were asked to wait in the lounge next to the Prime Minister's Office. Meanwhile, two uninvited guests also reached the Prime Minister's House by helicopter, surrounded by extraordinary security and well-armed men and met the Prime Minister in private for about a quarter of an hour. It is unknown at this time what he will do after leaving the post. No more An hour ago, the then Prime Minister Imran Khan had ordered the removal of a senior official present at the meeting.

Therefore, the sudden arrival of these uninvited guests was unexpected for the Prime Minister. Imran Khan was waiting for the helicopter but his guesses and expectations about the passengers of this helicopter proved to be completely wrong. Sources said that the former prime minister was expecting that his newly appointed officials would reach the Prime Minister's House in this helicopter and after that the noise which started from Parliament House after the Supreme Court decision would subside. Had happened It may have happened, but the problem was that the legal document (notification) that should have been issued by the Ministry of Defense for this highest dismissal and a new appointment could not be issued, thus thwarting the Prime Minister's House's attempt at this 'revolutionary' change. Done.

By the way, even if this process of removal was completed on the order of the Prime Minister, arrangements had been made to declare it null and void. The locks of the Islamabad High Court were unlocked on Saturday night and the staff of Chief Justice Athar Minallah reached the High Court. It was informed that the High Court is scheduled to hear an urgent petition in which Adnan Iqbal Advocate as an ordinary citizen challenged in court the 'possible' notification of removal of the Chief of Army Staff by Prime Minister Imran Khan.

What was The urgent petition said that Imran Khan had misused his powers for political and personal purposes and recommended the removal of the Chief of Army Staff, therefore the court should quash the order in the best public interest. It is important to note here that this request was prepared but left blank in place of the notification number for the removal of the Chief of Army Staff. The reason for this was that despite the request of the Prime Minister, the notification could not be issued and thus it was not the turn of hearing on this petition.

https://www.bbc.com/urdu/pakistan-61055639
 
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BBC Urdu is saying that IK tried to sack Bajwa. Others, including IK have said this is fale, however here is the article using Google Translate



https://www.bbc.com/urdu/pakistan-61055639

Yes. Imran sacked Bajwa who then refused to follow orders. Due to military pressure/intimidation, the Defense Ministry did not issue a notification. The military then filed a petition calling for Bajwa's restoration to preempt any further moves by the PM.
 
Yes. Imran sacked Bajwa who then refused to follow orders. Due to military pressure/intimidation, the Defense Ministry did not issue a notification. The military then filed a petition calling for Bajwa's restoration to preempt any further moves by the PM.

giving bajwa the extension turned out to be a huge mistake then
 
giving bajwa the extension turned out to be a huge mistake then

Yes! Bajwa made Imran do many blunders including forcing Imran to let Nawaz to leave the country.

As part of the deal with the PDM, Bajwa will get another extension come October. (My prediction)
 
Yes! Bajwa made Imran do many blunders including forcing Imran to let Nawaz to leave the country.

As part of the deal with the PDM, Bajwa will get another extension come October. (My prediction)

Really a slap in the face to all the other generals who are next in line. So basically he wants 9 years as Chief? He will have been chief longer than Musharraf, Ayub, Yahya.
 
Yes. Imran sacked Bajwa who then refused to follow orders. Due to military pressure/intimidation, the Defense Ministry did not issue a notification. The military then filed a petition calling for Bajwa's restoration to preempt any further moves by the PM.

This is ridiculous.
 
Yes. Imran sacked Bajwa who then refused to follow orders. Due to military pressure/intimidation, the Defense Ministry did not issue a notification. The military then filed a petition calling for Bajwa's restoration to preempt any further moves by the PM.

Sacking Bajwa would make no sense for IK. Why would he burn his bridges forever with the army when the decision would be reversed by the courts anyway.

I think its a fake report. If he did try to sack the COAS , then there would be paperwork which would be released by the new government
 
Sacking Bajwa would make no sense for IK. Why would he burn his bridges forever with the army when the decision would be reversed by the courts anyway.

I think its a fake report. If he did try to sack the COAS , then there would be paperwork which would be released by the new government

Because Imran Khan thought having Faiz Hameed or some other as COAS would be beneficial for 2023 elections.

Have you seen the legal documents that were prepared by military lawyers seeking to reinstate Bajwa?
 
Because Imran Khan thought having Faiz Hameed or some other as COAS would be beneficial for 2023 elections.

Have you seen the legal documents that were prepared by military lawyers seeking to reinstate Bajwa?

That can be a pre-emptive measure, but surely the smoking gun would be the paperwork drawn up for the actual firing. If no such document emerges, this report can be dismissed as fake.

The army has stayed neutral publicly regardless of their activities behind the scenes. Why pick a fight with them when even IK knows his government is on the way out
 
Wow, so overseas pakistanis want pakistan to suffer under milltary rule :facepalm:

If imrans actions causes this, he would become the most hated pm to ever existed

No, we don’t want you to suffer under looters and criminal rule so military rule is the lesser of two evils. However seems like you all like bending over and get screwed by the corrupt.

You have had decades of being looted maybe in some sick way you like it, and even enjoy it. You and this Mamoon kid also enjoy being chamchey - your cricketing posts seem to indicate as much. Subservient little chamchey. Maybe you guys have Stockholm syndrome.

So all in all, if that’s what you want then have it. You get what you deserve. But I don’t think I should bracket all of Pakistan with 2 kids who have nothing better to do with their time than sit on cricket forums posting the same thing, literally the same thing over and over again.

All I really want is for the Pakistani people to have their vote immediately. For some reason you guys don’t? I wonder why.

And please don’t wax Lyrical to me about “parliamentary politics”, “the constitution”, “the rule of law”, “democracy” when you produce thieves, looters and murderers who laugh at you. But as I said you probably enjoy it and bend over for some more.
 
No, we don’t want you to suffer under looters and criminal rule so military rule is the lesser of two evils. However seems like you all like bending over and get screwed by the corrupt.

You have had decades of being looted maybe in some sick way you like it, and even enjoy it. You and this Mamoon kid also enjoy being chamchey - your cricketing posts seem to indicate as much. Subservient little chamchey. Maybe you guys have Stockholm syndrome.

So all in all, if that’s what you want then have it. You get what you deserve. But I don’t think I should bracket all of Pakistan with 2 kids who have nothing better to do with their time than sit on cricket forums posting the same thing, literally the same thing over and over again.

All I really want is for the Pakistani people to have their vote immediately. For some reason you guys don’t? I wonder why.

And please don’t wax Lyrical to me about “parliamentary politics”, “the constitution”, “the rule of law”, “democracy” when you produce thieves, looters and murderers who laugh at you. But as I said you probably enjoy it and bend over for some more.

Another pti fan who saw his govt fall and is trying to calm himself by perosnal attacking others.

I am glad i voted ppp will vote them again inshallah.
 
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