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'Warm banks' set up as thousands face 'heat or eat' dilemma this winter - Will you open your home?

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Struggling families in the UK will be able to use "warm banks" this winter to protect themselves from the sky-high price of heating their homes, after the energy price cap rises again in October.
Birmingham City Council, England's biggest serving 1.14 million people, is the latest to announce facilities such as churches, community centres and libraries will be available for people to stay warm during the colder months, as first reported by the Local Democracy Reporting Service.

But the government has been urged to step in with support before average energy bills rocket by around 80% to £3,549 per year - with one charity behind a number of warm places calling ministers "irresponsible" for the lack of action.

I never imagined the day would come Brits would be leaving their homes to spend the day in some communal building because they cant afford heating. Sadly UK is in serious decline like most of Europe now.

I have a few elderly people living in my area. I would open my home to them if they cant afford heating but Im never at home. So I will ask if I can help them in any way.

Would you open your home to keep others warm if they cannot afford it?
 
No I won't do that. They could criminals posing as vulnerable and cold people. Better the devil you know!:virat1
 
No I won't do that. They could criminals posing as vulnerable and cold people. Better the devil you know!:virat1

The elderly you know living near you.

I might visit one of these warm banks to see how many are filling it up.
 
I thought the new PM has promised to freeze the gas/electricity price? The elderly living on a pittance are the most vulnerable. Those Brits always supporting every war deserve it.
 
I thought the new PM has promised to freeze the gas/electricity price? The elderly living on a pittance are the most vulnerable. Those Brits always supporting every war deserve it.

The mood is turning and will change more as gas bills start rolling in next month.

UK has spent over £2 billion for the proxy war in Ukraine, this money should have been given to the pensioners who actually fought or were caught up in WW2.
 
I don't mind donating and volunteering. But, letting them inside is a bit risky.

If it is an elderly and I like the vibe, I may let him/her in.
 
The third world country Britain. Didn't think I would read such News coming out of Europe.

I hope all the SJW's open their doors and invite the homeless with open arms.
 
The third world country Britain. Didn't think I would read such News coming out of Europe.

I hope all the SJW's open their doors and invite the homeless with open arms.

Have some sympathy. Anybody can become poor and homeless; even the rich ones.

This is not the homeless kind we are talking about. This is working class.
 
The mood is turning and will change more as gas bills start rolling in next month.

UK has spent over £2 billion for the proxy war in Ukraine, this money should have been given to the pensioners who actually fought or were caught up in WW2.

Yeah when you keep interfering in all war's then it will return to bite you on the behind. Here the UK has upset a massive power like Russia not Saudi Arabia. It is too late to have regrets now. Most have a mortgage and rent too in addition to the rising energy costs so either they eat or heat in the winter. Let this be a lesson to people who always support war here. We could be going back to burning lanterns and wood to keep warm and for electricity:virat1
 
This is the cost of blood thirsty nazis supporting and advocating arming Ukraine
 
This is the price Liberals and NATO apologists are willing to pay for the sake of a proxy war.

You'd think the UK had learned from its rich history of warmongering predating World Wars too, but no, as ever Europe inc UK is the epicenter for wars, and they will never learn.

Perhaps the news in the OP is just what this country needs, a wake up call to the Millions who are hypnotized by ZMSM.

Sad but a brutal reality is the UK is a 3rd world country now.
 
This is the cost of blood thirsty nazis supporting and advocating arming Ukraine

Ukraine should just rollover and let Russia takeover their country. Once that is done, Russia will eye Poland and other Euro nations.
 
Have some sympathy. Anybody can become poor and homeless; even the rich ones.

This is not the homeless kind we are talking about. This is working class.

A country that cannot provide basic stuff to its citizens is a third world nation. Surprising to see UK not thinking through the consequences of Ukraine war and preparing for the consequences beforehand.
 
A country that cannot provide basic stuff to its citizens is a third world nation. Surprising to see UK not thinking through the consequences of Ukraine war and preparing for the consequences beforehand.

I meant don't take a dig at homeless/vulnerable.

But, yeah. I agree that UK (along with US/NATO) stupidly tried to bully Russia. Putin is sharper than all western politicians.
 
For the British leaders and politicians it is all about supporting the USA and Zionist Israel even if their own people die and suffer. Including those pro war supporters on this website who love Ukraine so much they too will soon be on their knee's in the winter. The so called sanctions on Putin's Russia have not worked at all. He's laughing at Europe saying come the winter I am gonna freeze you all to death. So if people can't afford the gas and electricity they'll just sit at home starving like in the 18th century.
 
It is the white blue blooded Brits who are responsible for this mess.
 
Thread is about helping others

Lets stick to it
 
Thread is about helping others

Lets stick to it

How many people can we help if the whole country is chilling to death come the winter? That is the concern of of even most working class people let alone the elderly. Besides energy bills there is the rent/mortgage and council tax to worry about. Those with kids the expenses are even higher.
 
At my work nowadays we do a mixture of working from home and using the office, however, a lot of people saying they are going to be full time office based throughout the winter simply because it will be a warmer place to work without a cost to them. Security guards will have to be extra vigilant as I reckon we might get some people sleeping over in the meeting rooms and on random sofas lol.
 
At my work nowadays we do a mixture of working from home and using the office, however, a lot of people saying they are going to be full time office based throughout the winter simply because it will be a warmer place to work without a cost to them. Security guards will have to be extra vigilant as I reckon we might get some people sleeping over in the meeting rooms and on random sofas lol.

I think UK should provide warm clothes, blankets, gloves etc. Heating is not necessary if there are enough gloves/blankets/sweaters/other clothes.

It can be a cheaper and more realistic option.
 
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I think UK should provide warm clothes, blankets, gloves etc. Heating is not necessary if there are enough gloves/blankets/sweaters/other clothes.

It can be a cheaper and more realistic option.

Life expectancy would drop and infant mortality rise.
 
I think UK should provide warm clothes, blankets, gloves etc. Heating is not necessary if there are enough gloves/blankets/sweaters/other clothes.

It can be a cheaper and more realistic option.

It can become very cold esp in older properties. Heating also needed for warm water in the house. But sure they should provide free clothing to the elderly but UK is no longer a caring nation. The politicians only care about their donors, big companies inc energy companies.

Liz Truss who is a joke a woman is now the PM. She had the chance today to tax the energy companies , raising hundreds of millions to support people but she chose not to because they helped her into power.

Now you will see so many sitting in places such as libraries, cafes, community centres, churches etc to keep warm.
 
At my work nowadays we do a mixture of working from home and using the office, however, a lot of people saying they are going to be full time office based throughout the winter simply because it will be a warmer place to work without a cost to them. Security guards will have to be extra vigilant as I reckon we might get some people sleeping over in the meeting rooms and on random sofas lol.

In Germany they are ordering businesses to ensure heating is no more than 17c, being Asian this isnt warm lol.

I think companies here will be more strict with their energy esp if people start sleeping over.
 
At my work nowadays we do a mixture of working from home and using the office, however, a lot of people saying they are going to be full time office based throughout the winter simply because it will be a warmer place to work without a cost to them. Security guards will have to be extra vigilant as I reckon we might get some people sleeping over in the meeting rooms and on random sofas lol.

I knew a fella who did that. We not went home at weekends. Had a camp bed under his desk. Washed in the loos and cooked in the kitchenette. 400 CDs at his workstation. In the end they lowered the boom on him because he was putting in forty hours of overtime every week.
 
It can become very cold esp in older properties. Heating also needed for warm water in the house. But sure they should provide free clothing to the elderly but UK is no longer a caring nation. The politicians only care about their donors, big companies inc energy companies.

Liz Truss who is a joke a woman is now the PM. She had the chance today to tax the energy companies , raising hundreds of millions to support people but she chose not to because they helped her into power.

Now you will see so many sitting in places such as libraries, cafes, community centres, churches etc to keep warm.

She is a laissez-fair libertarian, the purest form of neoliberal - let the markets run everything.
 
In Germany they are ordering businesses to ensure heating is no more than 17c, being Asian this isnt warm lol.

I think companies here will be more strict with their energy esp if people start sleeping over.

17 is not bad considering the emergency situation.
 
She is a laissez-fair libertarian, the purest form of neoliberal - let the markets run everything.

If a PM is removed due a vote of no confidence, imo there should be a general election. Sure Starmier isnt a great person either but the public should always decide who is the PM of the country, not middle , old aged members of the Tory party.

She will damage this country to a point of no return in the next two years unless people wake up.

I doubt she will freeze energy bills for anyone let alone the elderly.
 
17 is not bad considering the emergency situation.

Reason is Germany feel they have enough reserves to last the winter but a very cold winter will mean people will ignore these rules, gas shortage could come into play.

Here they are trying to fool people, offering £300 extra to pensioners. This is not even 2 months supply. Winter or cold weather here can last from late Oct to March.
 
https://summit.news/2022/09/05/uk-p...public-order-caused-by-cost-of-living-crisis/
Police in the UK are preparing for a widespread “breakdown in public order” caused by the cost of living crisis if new Prime Minister Liz Truss doesn’t authorize a big enough government handout.

After a huge spike next month, energy bills are set to soar to around £6,522 a year by next April, a level that threatens to push a third of the country into poverty.

A leaked national strategy paper obtained by the Times reveals that police chiefs fear “economic turmoil and financial instability” has the “potential to drive increases in particular crime types.”

Shoplifting, burglary and vehicle theft, as well as online fraud and blackmail are all expected to soar as people desperately try to make ends meet, with criminal opportunists also eager to justify their actions.

Having already noticed an increase in some offences, the National Police Chiefs’ Council report cautions that “a more complex and unpredictable risk is the chance of greater civil unrest, as a response to prolonged and painful economic pressure.”

One MP briefed by local police said if the new Prime Minister, almost certain to be Liz Truss, doesn’t introduce a big enough government hand out, it would “push more people towards crime and lead to public unrest.”

“If the support doesn’t meet expectations, they would be expecting similar scenes to 2011,” said the MP, referring to the London riots which also spread to other parts of the country.

“A senior officer at one force in the north of England told a local MP that without significant government intervention they feared a return to the febrile conditions that led to the London riots in 2011,” states the article.

With over a million people vowing to stop paying their energy bills, there are also fears that large numbers would drive away from petrol stations without paying.

Emily Spurrell, Merseyside police and crime commissioner, even suggested that people who steal milk, food, or nappies for their children wouldn’t be prosecuted, an approach that hasn’t worked out so well in big American cities on the east and west coast.

Meanwhile, the government is also preparing for phone lines and computer systems to fail as a result of blackouts. An exercise code named “Noble Birch” took place which was centered around keeping Whitehall operational during a widespread power grid failure.

As we previously highlighted, energy executives in the UK warned the government that the country faces the prospect of mass civil unrest as a result of people being unable to afford their heating and electricity bills this winter.

One senior industry figure said that when people “realize how bad this is going to get,” they could take their anger to the streets in the form of violent demonstrations.
 
What exactly is the heating issue there? Is it due to the centrilized heating that is installed that rises the cost?

How low do temperatures drop and If homes start burning wood in the fire place can this be good enough.

In pakistan, with cemented homes, the in door temperature falls more and it becomes more colder. Houses that do actually get gas have to sit near it as it cant really heat the whole room or house

Can it be said that this is a first world country problem?
 
What exactly is the heating issue there? Is it due to the centrilized heating that is installed that rises the cost?

How low do temperatures drop and If homes start burning wood in the fire place can this be good enough.

In pakistan, with cemented homes, the in door temperature falls more and it becomes more colder. Houses that do actually get gas have to sit near it as it cant really heat the whole room or house

Can it be said that this is a first world country problem?

Most UK homes are gas-fire central heating, or electric heaters, or some who are off the gas mains have propane tanks. As the international price of gas and electricity has doubled, so the price to heat houses has sharply increased for many families. In UK this has compounded to hit families with the rise in food prices due to Brexit. Germany and Poland are worse off because they burn a lot of gas. France is better off because they have a lot of nuclear reactors. Sweden and Norway are OK because they have HEP.

Not many homes in UK have wood burners these days.

When I was a boy we had a coal fire in the main room but no other radiators in the house, so in winter we put more blankets on the beds. There was a gas-fired immersion heater to heat the water for washing. The infant mortality rate was four times higher than it is now and the life expectancy ten years shorter. Thought there were other reasons for that such as bad diet and more industrial accidents. Latterly my father had gas central heating fitted and my bedroom got a radiator.

So yes it is perhaps the first world problem.
 
If a PM is removed due a vote of no confidence, imo there should be a general election. Sure Starmier isnt a great person either but the public should always decide who is the PM of the country, not middle , old aged members of the Tory party.

She will damage this country to a point of no return in the next two years unless people wake up.

Concur on all points.

Though if the GE rule were in place, the Tories would not have removed Johnson. He would still be PM.
 
Not good situation in Europe at all. It will be tough winter.

It would have been even harder if you had temperatures like -15 C which we often get here in Norway in winter.
 
Not good situation in Europe at all. It will be tough winter.

It would have been even harder if you had temperatures like -15 C which we often get here in Norway in winter.

Yeah. It could be devastating if something like this happens in Canada or Nordic countries (much colder).

Our winter (Toronto) here is like -20C to -35C.
 
Most people today don't have a fireplace!!:jofra How do we install one?
 
Rather than individuals opening their doors as warm banks, I foresee the churches and community centres opening 24/7 for such purposes, running food banks at the same time and asking for donations from locals to keep the heaters on.
 
La Tour Eiffel is changing switch-off time from 0100 hrs to 2345 hrs every night to save Parisiennes electricity.

All German monuments will switch off illumination at nightfall.
 
Rather than individuals opening their doors as warm banks, I foresee the churches and community centres opening 24/7 for such purposes, running food banks at the same time and asking for donations from locals to keep the heaters on.

La Tour Eiffel is changing switch-off time from 0100 hrs to 2345 hrs every night to save Parisiennes electricity.

All German monuments will switch off illumination at nightfall.

For me community centres, churches, mosques and other communal places opening their doors, people giving up their times to help anyone and everyone is a most beautiful thing. Its also a regular thing in the UK where we help each other in times of need, regardless of any differences. This is what makes Britain still great.

I will drop off some boxes of soup and others foods to my local church. Lets not forget many elderly cant get out or are fearful after the pandemic. Everyone should keep an eye on such neighbours.
 
For me community centres, churches, mosques and other communal places opening their doors, people giving up their times to help anyone and everyone is a most beautiful thing. Its also a regular thing in the UK where we help each other in times of need, regardless of any differences. This is what makes Britain still great.

Yes this is one of the UK’s very special traits that it is yet to lose.
 
Yes this is one of the UK’s very special traits that it is yet to lose.

Im sure your local church will be helping many.

Some great work going on for this.

NHS trusts are contemplating opening “warm banks” amid fears lives are in danger this winter as the price of residing disaster deepens.

Leaders in not less than two trusts are taking a look at giving hospital and healthcare areas up for individuals in want of a heat place to go, whereas one GP stated she would provide meals and open a room in her workplace for individuals struggling to warmth their houses.

It comes as an NHS chief warned a scarcity of heating could possibly be “life-threatening” for weak sufferers and is resulting in hospital admissions.

Dr Farzana Hussain, a GP in Newham, will open a room to carry round 16 individuals at her follow this October and supply soup to sufferers in want, amid fears sufferers might die of hypothermia or hunger this winter.

She advised The Independent: “If you asked me in my 21st year as a GP did I ever think I was going to be in this position and thinking about providing food? It’s a horrible place we’re in but without food and warmth how can we have health?


Matthew Taylor, chief government of the NHS Confederation stated well being leaders have been frightened 1000’s of individuals will face the selection between skipping meals and having to warmth their houses or residing in chilly, damp situations.

https://www.newsncr.com/health/nhs-trusts-seek-to-open-warm-banks-as-energy-crisis-hits-patients/

Huge respect for Dr Farzana.

Its a human issue but a reminder to Muslims, this is where we can stand up. There is a lot going on around the world but as British Muslims we must help those in our country too , esp children and elderly as our faith demands of us.
 
For me community centres, churches, mosques and other communal places opening their doors, people giving up their times to help anyone and everyone is a most beautiful thing. Its also a regular thing in the UK where we help each other in times of need, regardless of any differences. This is what makes Britain still great.

I will drop off some boxes of soup and others foods to my local church. Lets not forget many elderly cant get out or are fearful after the pandemic. Everyone should keep an eye on such neighbours.

👍🏻

During lockdown I delivered food from a little shop to remote houses whose residents were isolating.

I read that a mosque in Birmingham was something similar on a much larger scale, and also making PPE for health workers. I imagine this was replicated at many masjids.

We have far more in common than that which separates us.
 
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