Was it right for Lahore Qalandars to pick Salman Butt for PSL 2019?

[MenInG]

Should LQ have selected him considering his history and the events of 2010?

Is he in the same boat as Amir (should be welcomed back) or do you feel otherwise?

 

[Savak]

I think Salman Butt has suffered enough for the last 10 years. If Amir can be allowed to play Cricket for Pakistan again, so can Salman Butt, lets not rejoice at the suffering of others. The guy deserves a break now.

 

[GoUgandaCranes]

I'd be more like, when's Asif coming back now?

And then we can have all three of them in the team along with Sharjeel and make Butt the captain too because why not.

 

[Savak]

I'd be more like, when's Asif coming back now?

And then we can have all three of them in the team along with Sharjeel and make Butt the captain too because why not.

To be honest, a team devoid of reliable match winners, languishing at the bottom of the rankings, not attracting spectators and not getting big tv rights deals outside of the BCCI cannot ignore quality for long.

 

[IMMY69]

In a way it's a good thing because now everyone has a team they can hate...

 

[Rana]

It is totally up to The Lahore Qalandar's management if they would like to pick a player/captain that has a tainted past such as Salman Butt. I believe we must respect their decision as they are the paymasters for this team and they know what is best for them. With that being said, my criticism of the decision isn't in regards to the controversial aspect but most certainly the tactical aspect.

I believe a poster asked opinions about who should be the one to replace Mohammad Hafeez? At first glance it is near impossible to imagine that Salman Butt would actually be considered, this is from a neutral perspective. Fakhar Zaman and Sohail Akhtar should be playing every match as openers and this could potentially lead to a similar partnership in the future for Pakistan. Sohail Akhtar IMO has been brilliant so far. Salman Butt is going to cause some unrest in this regard. Not sure if this was really a tactical resolution or more of a friend's favour. Only time will tell.

 

[Hasan123]

I don’t agree with the selection but they can pick who they want unfortunately.

 

[RickyG]

Not when there are more deserving players sitting out.

He has been picked to please the Lahoris.

 

[Saj]

If Mohammad Amir can play in the PSL, then there is no reason why Salman Butt cannot.

 

[Hawkeye]

Butt doesn't make it on merit.

He's a very poor LOI bat and especially not suited to T20s. Fawad Alam is better! Much better.

So, a wrong decision.

 

[RickyG]

If Mohammad Amir can play in the PSL, then there is no reason why Salman Butt cannot.

On merit? Really?

Why is he entitled a PSL spot while more deserving players have to sit out? Please enlighten me!

 

[Monsee]

Butt did not deserve it and based on his lethargic batting in short formats (minus India/Minnows), horrible running (one of the worst ever in the world even worse than the leading poor runners like Inzi, Dravid, Akram etc.), and out of this world poor (putting it mildly) fielding...all this when he was young and in much better physical condition as well!

If you look at the above, those are the most basic/essential T20 qualities looked for in a player, how Butt qualifies is anybody's guess?

I think Mukhtar Ahmed desrved it based on his past record in T20s or any other player except Butt!

 

[Usman]

If Mohammad Amir can play in the PSL, then there is no reason why Salman Butt cannot.

I disagree. I don't wish to open up the whole Amir v Butt debate, but:

1) Butt was the ring leader.

2) Butt was Pakistani captain. He was in a position of influence over 17/18 year old Amir.

3) Butt did not apologise or admit that he fixed, until long after he was convicted. He only confessed when he knew he had nothing to lose. He is sorry that he got caught and feels sorry for himself. He doesn't feel sorry for his actions.

4) He is a rubbish player anyway. We have moved on. The PSL is about discovering new talent, not going back to failures who are now old men.

 

[The Viper]

Think it’s weird as LQ opening is decent. They needed a middle order batsman. Maybe one of Butt or Fakhar can move down one space.

 

[Snowflake]

Absolutely not. We need to consider the context and not just the law.

- PSL is still in its infancy and we need to do everything we can to carefully cultivate this brand and generate goodwill around it

- Teams in the PSL (especially LQ) do not have strong personalities in the management which can keep dodgy guys like Butt in check. Frankly, I would've been more comfortable with Butt making a return to the national side instead of LQ.

- Lastly, PSL is all about giving youngsters a platform to shine. Butt does not deserve a place in the XI based on merit and is included on reputation (which itself is so ironic!).

 

[Saj]

I disagree. I don't wish to open up the whole Amir v Butt debate, but:

1) Butt was the ring leader.

2) Butt was Pakistani captain. He was in a position of influence over 17/18 year old Amir.

3) Butt did not apologise or admit that he fixed, until long after he was convicted. He only confessed when he knew he had nothing to lose. He is sorry that he got caught and feels sorry for himself. He doesn't feel sorry for his actions.

4) He is a rubbish player anyway. We have moved on. The PSL is about discovering new talent, not going back to failures who are now old men.

And Amir lied about his age otherwise he would have gone to an adult prison.

Not only that, but Amir was still hanging around with Mazher Majeed after they had been caught.

Amir was no shrinking violet in this episode.

 

[cricketAXEpert]

NO, he is NOT in the same boat as Mohd Amir.

Salman Butt was the Captain. He was the planner / & one of the master minds behind the debacle of 2010. Not only he instructed both the bowlers to ball 'no balls', he also pushed them not to confess. An Early confession could have reduced the punishment to 2 years or so for Amir. His crime was the biggest of the three. He also wasted one of the bowling greats ever produced by Pakistan Mohd Asif.

 

[ads101]

Shouldn't be captain, but yeah I don't mind him coming back to PSL, Amir after all plays in it.

I don't think any of the trio should have been able to play international cricket again. You could argue PSL too, but when you've got a fixer who already plays international cricket too, how can you deny someone who pretty much committed the same crime, the rung below that too.

I think Pakistan has been very soft on fixing, yet I don't think we've been fair. They essentially all committed the same crime fixing. Yes Butt's slightly worse as captain, but not much worse, and more importantly you can't blame Amir's wrongdoings on Butt, Amir was an adult (and quite frankly spun a very unbelievable story to devoid himself of blame which was poor).

What we should have done with the trio is ban them from international cricket forever, let them play domestic after 5 years ban. Once you've tarnished your country's reputation, that's it your chance of representing your country has gone. And maybe after the trio ban, PCB should have announced anymore fixers would also receive a PSL or even full domestic ban to discourage anymore fixers. Instead as a result of being too soft on fixing, more Pakistani players ended up fixing again e.g. Sharjeel. I didn't think it would be a strong enough deterrent the 5 year ban, but I didn't think it'd be that weak for it to happen again so soon.

 

[Savak]

Shouldn't be captain, but yeah I don't mind him coming back to PSL, Amir after all plays in it.

I don't think any of the trio should have been able to play international cricket again. You could argue PSL too, but when you've got a fixer who already plays international cricket too, how can you deny someone who pretty much committed the same crime, the rung below that too.

I think Pakistan has been very soft on fixing, yet I don't think we've been fair. They essentially all committed the same crime fixing. Yes Butt's slightly worse as captain, but not much worse, and more importantly you can't blame Amir's wrongdoings on Butt, Amir was an adult (and quite frankly spun a very unbelievable story to devoid himself of blame which was poor).

What we should have done with the trio is ban them from international cricket forever, let them play domestic after 5 years ban. Once you've tarnished your country's reputation, that's it your chance of representing your country has gone. And maybe after the trio ban, PCB should have announced anymore fixers would also receive a PSL or even full domestic ban to discourage anymore fixers. Instead as a result of being too soft on fixing, more Pakistani players ended up fixing again e.g. Sharjeel. I didn't think it would be a strong enough deterrent the 5 year ban, but I didn't think it'd be that weak for it to happen again so soon.

Problem is that the PCB cannot do anything extra judicial outside the ICC. If the ICC laws state that the maximum punishment is 5 years then that's it. There is nothing in the ICC laws to state a life ban or cannot play for your country again.

The PCB by choice ignored these players but if these players were performing well in domestic cricket consistently their voices will have weight in the media.

 

[CricFan2012]

He sucks as a T20 player, but it's still funny to see the double standards of people who still rate Ajmal despite him doing something equally as bad and arguably worse.

 

[Major]

And Amir lied about his age otherwise he would have gone to an adult prison.

Not only that, but Amir was still hanging around with Mazher Majeed after they had been caught.

Amir was no shrinking violet in this episode.

THIS!

Thank God you have said this.

WHat people do not know is that Amir was well above his age, and this is something alot of cricketers do. Infact, i have seen with my own eyes club coaches telling us to get this done for a better chance of getting selected.

Hence, reduced age allowed him to be shown as juvenile.

Bottom line is, if you have allowed Amir to play you cannot stop others from playing. Its discriminating. Amir was an adult when he committed the crime. It doesn't matter if he admitted or not, thing is he admitted after being caught. Thing is we don't know for how long this has been going on.

But i will never support these players for the crime they had committed.

 

[CadPakFan]

I think it was the wrong decision because he's 34 and never been really that good at T20s and is taking up the spot a young talented bowler or batsman and I feel even if he wasn't tainted I would've felt the same way.

 

[RickyG]

And Amir lied about his age otherwise he would have gone to an adult prison.

Not only that, but Amir was still hanging around with Mazher Majeed after they had been caught.

Amir was no shrinking violet in this episode.

Not that I would be shocked but that is a significant accusation to make without any proof.

I think there are mitigating and aggravating circumstances.

Being the captain is an aggravating circumstance. As is continuously not accepting your guilt.

Being underage is a mitigating circumstance. As is confessing later is still better than never.

You still haven't replied as to why Butt is entitled to a spot in PSL on merit or otherwise?

 

[RickyG]

THIS!

Thank God you have said this.

WHat people do not know is that Amir was well above his age, and this is something alot of cricketers do. Infact, i have seen with my own eyes club coaches telling us to get this done for a better chance of getting selected.

Hence, reduced age allowed him to be shown as juvenile.

Bottom line is, if you have allowed Amir to play you cannot stop others from playing. Its discriminating. Amir was an adult when he committed the crime. It doesn't matter if he admitted or not, thing is he admitted after being caught. Thing is we don't know for how long this has been going on.

But i will never support these players for the crime they had committed.

Butt played u19 cricket as well you think he is really 34 years old?

 

[Sadozai]

He is not suitable for this format but neither shehzad, Asad, imam etc are good T20 players, so let's see what he has to offer this time.

 

[Sadozai]

He sucks as a T20 player, but it's still funny to see the double standards of people who still rate Ajmal despite him doing something equally as bad and arguably worse.

Please explain how Ajmal did equally bad/worst thing?

 

[Usman]

And Amir lied about his age otherwise he would have gone to an adult prison.

Not only that, but Amir was still hanging around with Mazher Majeed after they had been caught.

Amir was no shrinking violet in this episode.

I agree that Amir is no saint. But I do think he is less culpable than the others. In fact, the ICC tribunal agreed.

Even if we put all of this aside, my point 4 still stands. Salman Butt was never very good. He's even worse in t20s than other formats. He's old. At a time when we are looking for the next Fakhar/Shadab/Faheem/Hassan Ali in a World Cup year, is it really wise for Lahore to be picking someone like Butt? Poor decision which will backfire I think.

 

[Sher Khan]

Salman butt truly deserves this. He has worked very hard in domestic from last three years. Amir is getting a free ride everywhere without performing, surely Salman deserves a go as well. He will be eager to perform I'm sure.

 

[aloo paratha]

Doesn't evem make sense for Lahore. They did not need an opener.

 

[Shaka81]

He's a corrupt individual but all that chat takes away from the fact that he's a terrible T20 player who shouldn't be there on merit. It's going to be a disastrous signing by Lahore. He will expect to play and cause aggro if he doesn't. When he does play, he doesn't have the skills to contribute positively in any way.

 

[moghul]

Good decision, the guy has been punished more than enough, he deserves to earn his living, good luck to Butt.

 

[Misia]

Why can people just get over it, morals are so very High of our corrupt society, never forgive butt or asif , Amir because he was the next legend, we need Sharjeel Khan back for 2019 World cup, Malik qayum report inzi mushy azhar all part of the teams selection coaching, I'm not saying they were guilty of any wrong doing. But I do remember them paying all they're fines ,

 

[giri26]

I think he has done his time. He should be allowed to play again. Don't think he should be punished.

 

[coy0607]

obviously not

Butt is past his prime, and was never a T20 batsmen to begin with. Political decision

 

[Mirpur express]

There are surely more deserving & suitable players out there ,so quite a surprising move by LQ which could turn out to be a PR disaster

 

[Sunny_majoka]

not going into fixing debate. if amir can play then butt too..

but the point is why the psl franchises are reluctant to pick a youngster over and oldie..

whats the point of picking him. if you have saif badar , mukhtar ahmad and zeeshan malik in the hut

 

[CricFan2012]

Please explain how Ajmal did equally bad/worst thing?

Bowled illegally despite concerns from many people of the cricketing world.

His excuse was that an 'accident' affected his bowling arm, but then proceeds to bowl with a fixed action to save his career after ICC grows a spine and bans him.

It points more towards him knowing that he was chucking and that his doosras would deceive the batsmen 9 out of 10 times, in the off chance he was cheating unknowingly, which is very unlikely, then cheating is still cheating.

What Ajmal, and chuckers like him did, was go on to win matches and important series where it was extremely difficult for batsmen to score against them, neglected the clean spinners in their respective countries who actually wanted to earn honestly, negatively affected some batsmen's careers for sure.

To the nationalistic and patriotic Pakistani fan, they will excuse Ajmal's action by blaming the ICC for being incompetent, or even worse, actually support it because we won lots of matches and series like the 2013 South Africa one, the famous test whitewashes of England in 2012, plus many more.

 

[CricFan2012]

Salman butt truly deserves this. He has worked very hard in domestic from last three years. Amir is getting a free ride everywhere without performing, surely Salman deserves a go as well. He will be eager to perform I'm sure.

How is scoring at snail paced strike rates performing?

He is doing the same thing as Misbah now. It is way easier to score runs when you leave so many good balls and make a 50 out of 70 odd deliveries.

In t20s its even worse, no team needs someone who can score at 110 strike rate.

 

[Corridor of Uncertainty]

3 people together murdered an innocent man so they could steal his money. One was the mastermind. The other two actually did the killing with knives.

One of the actual killers is allowed employment after doing his time. The other killer and the mastermind have done time too - but are yet not allowed to seek employment.

Why?

 

[Misia]

Bowled illegally despite concerns from many people of the cricketing world.

His excuse was that an 'accident' affected his bowling arm, but then proceeds to bowl with a fixed action to save his career after ICC grows a spine and bans him.

It points more towards him knowing that he was chucking and that his doosras would deceive the batsmen 9 out of 10 times, in the off chance he was cheating unknowingly, which is very unlikely, then cheating is still cheating.

What Ajmal, and chuckers like him did, was go on to win matches and important series where it was extremely difficult for batsmen to score against them, neglected the clean spinners in their respective countries who actually wanted to earn honestly, negatively affected some batsmen's careers for sure.

To the nationalistic and patriotic Pakistani fan, they will excuse Ajmal's action by blaming the ICC for being incompetent, or even worse, actually support it because we won lots of matches and series like the 2013 South Africa one, the famous test whitewashes of England in 2012, plus many more.

Bang on the money !!!

 

[Misia]

3 people together murdered an innocent man so they could steal his money. One was the mastermind. The other two actually did the killing with knives.

One of the actual killers is allowed employment after doing his time. The other killer and the mastermind have done time too - but are yet not allowed to seek employment.

Why?

Welcome the Pakistani thought process (said bani, twadi Nani, Nani sub thy ek hi hai)

 

[silentkiller187]

same people that are begging for steven smith and warner to be included in the PSL, even though they are cheaters yet are crying about salman butts selection. I have always said he deserved the most severe punishment due to him being captain but even then, hes done his rehabilitation and deserves a second chance just like the rest.

 

[hadi123]

If Amir can play, why can't Butt. Nothing wrong with that decision

 

[fitCricFan]

If Cameron, Smith & Warner are allowed to play then Salman has paid his dues and should be allowed to play in domestic competions and Asif should be brought back too

 

[Hasan123]

If Cameron, Smith & Warner are allowed to play then Salman has paid his dues and should be allowed to play in domestic competions and Asif should be brought back too

Selling your country out is the lowest of the low. Don't compare it with ball tampering. You do know Wasim and Waqar have admitted to ball tampering.

Cannot believe people think ball tampering is worse than spot fixing. You can't get lower than selling your country and team mates out for a few dollars.

 

[Sadozai]

Bowled illegally despite concerns from many people of the cricketing world.

His excuse was that an 'accident' affected his bowling arm, but then proceeds to bowl with a fixed action to save his career after ICC grows a spine and bans him.

It points more towards him knowing that he was chucking and that his doosras would deceive the batsmen 9 out of 10 times, in the off chance he was cheating unknowingly, which is very unlikely, then cheating is still cheating.

What Ajmal, and chuckers like him did, was go on to win matches and important series where it was extremely difficult for batsmen to score against them, neglected the clean spinners in their respective countries who actually wanted to earn honestly, negatively affected some batsmen's careers for sure.

To the nationalistic and patriotic Pakistani fan, they will excuse Ajmal's action by blaming the ICC for being incompetent, or even worse, actually support it because we won lots of matches and series like the 2013 South Africa one, the famous test whitewashes of England in 2012, plus many more.

Still it is nowhere near to selling your country. If chuking & fixing had the same effects on the game there would have been the similar penalty for both. What ajmal or any other chuker did was wrong but that was not equivalent to fixing in any manner.

If we go by your logic of "cheating is cheating and its same in every case", then ball tampering also becomes the same nature of offence.

On the side note, I do not support chucking.

 

[Savak]

As Shane Warne went over drive to defend the bloody disgraceful cheats David Warner and Steve Smith under the pretext "Good people can make mistakes". Same should apply to Salman Butt

 

[CleverSir]

He served his punishment. So yes, why not? Personally, I wouldn't pick him just based on a set of morals. However, LQ as a private franchise can pick whoever they want. While I have no issue with them picking him because of some moral crusade people have, I do have an issue based on talent and contribution.

He isn't a T20 player and at 34 well past his prime. He contributes nothing to a team already struggling with power hitting. As a LQ fan it makes no sense. It points to an incompetent management and that starts with the Head Coach. It is time for Rana sb. to make some changes or we will continue to finish bottom of the league.

 

[hafizexpress]

Was it right for them?

Two things come into consideration:

1. In terms of his past and whatnot, he should still be allowed and welcomed to play. When a full ban is served, there is no reason to ignore them. They did not set the punishment sentence for themselves, it was set for them and after completely serving them they should continue their lives and careers as normal.

2. In terms of MERIT, Butt does not warrant a place in the team. This is the point most people ignore. Most people are out here saying stuff like "oh if amir can play then he can play". First of all, Amir is leagues above Butt and most of Pakistan in t20 cricket and most certainly can make any team in the world on merit. But Butt cannot. In terms of the past and the fixing issues yes nobody is stopping him but Lahore made a confusing decision by getting Butt instead of other players who could have made the team on merit. They are probably trying to revive his career which is up to them. At the end of the day it's their business decision.

 

[FastBowlingAllrounder]

As Shane Warne went over drive to defend the bloody disgraceful cheats David Warner and Steve Smith under the pretext "Good people can make mistakes". Same should apply to Salman Butt

First of all, the scale of their mistake wasn't as big as what Butt did. Secondly, the reason they did the whole ball-tampering thing was to gain an (illegal) advantage over the opposition. This was a result of the whole never lose attitude injected into the Australian team and cricket culture, which was later on criticised. These guys cared so much about winning that they cheated. Not only did Butt cheat but he broke the law and he sold his country to fill his pocket. My friend there is a big difference between wanting to win so much that you cheat and not caring about your country and selling it.

 

[ARK Rafay]

He deserved a chance like M Amir. But he dosen't deserved on merit. There were many talented and deserving players than him who came under merit.

 

[dhump]

Aamir is playing for Pakistan, and we don't want Salman Butt to play PSL? Yes he should have been selected since we all were in favour of Amir why having double standards.

 

[Titan24]

Bowled illegally despite concerns from many people of the cricketing world.

His excuse was that an 'accident' affected his bowling arm, but then proceeds to bowl with a fixed action to save his career after ICC grows a spine and bans him.

It points more towards him knowing that he was chucking and that his doosras would deceive the batsmen 9 out of 10 times, in the off chance he was cheating unknowingly, which is very unlikely, then cheating is still cheating.

What Ajmal, and chuckers like him did, was go on to win matches and important series where it was extremely difficult for batsmen to score against them, neglected the clean spinners in their respective countries who actually wanted to earn honestly, negatively affected some batsmen's careers for sure.

To the nationalistic and patriotic Pakistani fan, they will excuse Ajmal's action by blaming the ICC for being incompetent, or even worse, actually support it because we won lots of matches and series like the 2013 South Africa one, the famous test whitewashes of England in 2012, plus many more.

How can you prove it was intentional on Ajmal’s side, maybe it was something that came naturally to him. He was 29 when he debuted for Pak so he was used to what he was doing and its not his fault that his action was acceptable.

By the way in his first few years his action was definitely cleaner, it was when age started to come into play that he was weak in his shoulders an the action wasnt as smooth.

How is this even related to corruption? You are releating criminal offense with an illegality in a game which has been in the grey area since Murali’s era.

 

[Titan24]

Some posters are here making it feel like that they have never erred as humans.

Salman Butt made a big big mistake and let his country down however he is a human who spent his time in jail and away from the thing which was his profession.

LQ lacks local experience and Butt was available and they have to think about their franchise.

There are 6 teams with 126 players in their teams. If a champion batsman which everyone was hoping for still misses out its not LQ’s fault.

 

[hailian]

The best thing about Najam Sethi was that he didnt let these cheaters come any where near to the PSL by advising Frenchises not to pick them. Its pathetic of Lahore to pick Salman Butt. What a shame.

 

[Savak]

First of all, the scale of their mistake wasn't as big as what Butt did. Secondly, the reason they did the whole ball-tampering thing was to gain an (illegal) advantage over the opposition. This was a result of the whole never lose attitude injected into the Australian team and cricket culture, which was later on criticised. These guys cared so much about winning that they cheated. Not only did Butt cheat but he broke the law and he sold his country to fill his pocket. My friend there is a big difference between wanting to win so much that you cheat and not caring about your country and selling it.

Salman Butt took money for a few no balls, not with the intent to deliberately lose the game for the country. Lets not put an enlarged negative spin on things beyond necessity.

 

[reversehook]

Butt did not deserve it and based on his lethargic batting in short formats (minus India/Minnows), horrible running (one of the worst ever in the world even worse than the leading poor runners like Inzi, Dravid, Akram etc.), and out of this world poor (putting it mildly) fielding...all this when he was young and in much better physical condition as well!

If you look at the above, those are the most basic/essential T20 qualities looked for in a player, how Butt qualifies is anybody's guess?

I think Mukhtar Ahmed desrved it based on his past record in T20s or any other player except Butt!

not that i want him back, but dare i say all that poor stuff was due to spot fixing, getting run out, juggling and eventually dropping dollies, missfields, poor strike rates, etc... kya pata in reality he is a stud but was under performing for the bling bling...

 

[MenInG]

The best thing about Najam Sethi was that he didnt let these cheaters come any where near to the PSL by advising Frenchises not to pick them. Its pathetic of Lahore to pick Salman Butt. What a shame.

That logic fails with Amir for KK.

 

[FastBowlingAllrounder]

Salman Butt took money for a few no balls, not with the intent to deliberately lose the game for the country. Lets not put an enlarged negative spin on things beyond necessity.

Still cheating to fill his pocket when he is supposed to represent his country on an international stage. Furthermore, the no balls were for Butt to prove his loyalty to a bookie or something like that, meaning that if he got away with it, then he would've done something worse later on.

 

[Chokli]

can't compare salman butt a 26 year old veteran who was captaining the side with mohammad amir an 18 year old just starting out his career.

butt was the ring leader and dragged amir into it.

 

[Chokli]

Aamir is playing for Pakistan, and we don't want Salman Butt to play PSL? Yes he should have been selected since we all were in favour of Amir why having double standards.

because amir was new and uneducated

 

[dhump]

because amir was new and uneducated

Please start advocating the release of all convicted criminals who are young and uneducated.

 

[SarfiBabarHaris]

I think Sallo used his connections.

Pathetic from LQ after they did all the talent hunts and picked Sallo.

 

[mak36]

Let's put the fixing stuff to one side (although that is reason enough for him not to be selected). Are you seriously telling me the likes of Saif Badar, Zeeshan Malik e.t.c are incapable of playing match losing knocks of 17(19) and 5(7)?

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

I thought he looked quite good considering he had been out for a while. Has he had more than one innings?

 

[RedwoodOriginal]

Butt being exposed in PSL which shouldn't come as a surprise to anyone. LQ should stop wasting their time on him and start picking Haris Sohail or Saad Ali.

 

[moghul]

As a principle it was a right decision but the way he is playing, not a smart decision.

 

[mastersaan10]

Joke of a selection barring the fixing saga. Hope qalandars are at the bottom with Karachi. No surprise that the the teams with the worst captain Ms and worst coaches kk, lq, are fighting for the bottom.

 

[coy0607]

As a principle it was a right decision but the way he is playing, not a smart decision.

How is it the right decision in principle?

Butt is a mediocre T20 batsmen at best. What has he done to justify selection 'in principle'

 

[Chokli]

Please start advocating the release of all convicted criminals who are young and uneducated.

you have to look at it from case to case basis.

 

[shaaik]

No way, they should have picked him as a replacement. The guy doesn't belong to modern day cricket and should just be a part of domestic set up for a year or two more at max .. then, he should hang up his boots..

 

[Pete Rose]

Well its all moot right now because both Butt and Aamir are doing rubbish in the PSL at the moment.

 

[hailian]

That logic fails with Amir for KK.

There is a difference, Amir wasn’t the master mind of the fixing plan nor the skipper. He was only 17 and was not even adult. But the main thing is he accepted his mistake right away within few months, while Butt and Asif kept lying for 5 years before accepting it. Amir was given benefit of doubt but the skipper or master minds should be punished more.

 

[Officer Barbrady]

It’s tough to root against a local player but I find myself wanting Butt to fail.

 

[charlie007]

People make mistakes and Butt has paid the price for his. Let's move on.

 

[Savak]

Ten years is punishment enough, he deserves a chance at redemption, he worked very hard to get himself in the reckoning.

 

[Sycamore]

Should never have been picked. Qalandars deserve to lose with his performances. Amazing the likes of haris sohail have to sit out and let a convicted fixer who is 34 yrs old and never been good at T20s take his spot. You can see how strongly even Graeme Smith feels about it.

 

[dhump]

you have to look at it from case to case basis.

This is my point there is no difference between the case of Aamir and Butt.

 

[Chokli]

This is my point there is no difference between the case of Aamir and Butt.

there is no difference between an 18 year old newbie and a 26 year old veteran who also happened to be the captain?

 

[dhump]

there is no difference between an 18 year old newbie and a 26 year old veteran who also happened to be the captain?

No both of them are adults, and both were representing their county playing international cricket and paid by their respective boards. It is not about how you emotionally feel about them but about ground realities and legalities.