'Wasim Khan visited my house to discuss the matter of my retirement' : Mohammad Amir

[liam26]

Nah, even when Pandya and Jadeja were at the crease India still had a chance. Had Amir not ripped through the top order it would’ve allowed India to play more freely, instead they were forced to conserve their wickets. I don’t think any other Pak bowler would’ve done what Amir did on that day. Amir may have not done much for us to get into the final, but he won us the Final against a team we struggle to beat in icc tournaments.

When the Batsmen have put 320+ on the board , the match was in Pakistans bag. Stop hyping Amir as if he did something impossible.

Matt Henry and Boult defended 239 against Kohli and Co, so 340+ is out of question. just to hype your own favorite, you are making the chase look like a cakewalk.

Even if Pakistan had set up a target of 400, you would still say of if not for Amir , Kohli would have chased 400 with ease.

 

[Saj]

I still believe that the best way forward would be to sit Amir, Misbah and Waqar down and try to resolve any issues, rather than house visits.

 

[YousafTheBeast]

When the Batsmen have put 320+ on the board , the match was in Pakistans bag. Stop hyping Amir as if he did something impossible.

Matt Henry and Boult defended 239 against Kohli and Co, so 340+ is out of question. just to hype your own favorite, you are making the chase look like a cakewalk.

Even if Pakistan had set up a target of 400, you would still say of if not for Amir , Kohli would have chased 400 with ease.

We’ll just have to agree to disagree, I’m afraid.

The Win prediction before India came out to bat would’ve been around 60-40 to Pakistan. With India’s batting depth, anything was possible. Sharma is capable of scoring big hundreds, Dhawan’s aight, Kohli is known to chase targets down. If these 3 had set a platform for the middle order, then India would’ve won the game. Amir made sure that didn’t happen, hence Amir won the final.

 

[Bewal Express]

When the Batsmen have put 320+ on the board , the match was in Pakistans bag. Stop hyping Amir as if he did something impossible.

Matt Henry and Boult defended 239 against Kohli and Co, so 340+ is out of question. just to hype your own favorite, you are making the chase look like a cakewalk.

Even if Pakistan had set up a target of 400, you would still say of if not for Amir , Kohli would have chased 400 with ease.

I am no fan of Amir but the match was not in PKs bag by any means.

 

[SangasCoverDrive]

When the Batsmen have put 320+ on the board , the match was in Pakistans bag. Stop hyping Amir as if he did something impossible.

Matt Henry and Boult defended 239 against Kohli and Co, so 340+ is out of question. just to hype your own favorite, you are making the chase look like a cakewalk.

Even if Pakistan had set up a target of 400, you would still say of if not for Amir , Kohli would have chased 400 with ease.

Just like your bowlers defended 330 runs against SL in the same tournament?

 

[Ucdkee]

People are making this up as if none of the Pakistani bowlers barring Amir were capable of dismissing Kohli, Sharma and dhawan. Yes amir was in red hot form that day but so was Hassan Ali throughout the tournament, so was shadab and Junaid Khan wasn't bad either.

Just check how england was murdering every bowling lineup in the tournament and was restricted by Pakistan minus amir for 210.

Thank God yuvraj and Dhoni were not dismissed by amir that day otherwise we would have been discussing which Pakistani bowler could have come close to dismissing both of them.

 

[shamaan]

If Pakistan scores over 330 they will win more games than loose even if they has the worse bowling attack on Pakistan history

 

[Shoaibbtt]

People are making this up as if none of the Pakistani bowlers barring Amir were capable of dismissing Kohli, Sharma and dhawan. Yes amir was in red hot form that day but so was Hassan Ali throughout the tournament, so was shadab and Junaid Khan wasn't bad either.

Just check how england was murdering every bowling lineup in the tournament and was restricted by Pakistan minus amir for 210.

Thank God yuvraj and Dhoni were not dismissed by amir that day otherwise we would have been discussing which Pakistani bowler could have come close to dismissing both of them.

Besides those glory days he's not done much. He's lost his pace and is no longer that guy who you would think would deliver, only thing that you can cling onto is the hope he performs in these big games which you can say he certainly has.

 

[BunnyRabbit]

We’ll just have to agree to disagree, I’m afraid.

The Win prediction before India came out to bat would’ve been around 60-40 to Pakistan. With India’s batting depth, anything was possible. Sharma is capable of scoring big hundreds, Dhawan’s aight, Kohli is known to chase targets down. If these 3 had set a platform for the middle order, then India would’ve won the game. Amir made sure that didn’t happen, hence Amir won the final.

They failed to chase 338 against England in 2019 WC in England with arguably a superior team with Rohit hitting a ton and Virat a fifty and that wasn't even a knockout game. Junaid was even a more crucial bowler for Pakistan in CT17 something that was evident since his inclusion in the second game and him taking early wickets throughout. Hassan was the best bowler easily. 3 wickets in a final in a 10 year career(his ban was his own stupidity) isn't really a legacy "best" bowlers in the world tend to leave cause that's the only thing he's done since his comeback.

 

[BunnyRabbit]

Besides those glory days he's not done much. He's lost his pace and is no longer that guy who you would think would deliver, only thing that you can cling onto is the hope he performs in these big games which you can say he certainly has.

He was bowling in 140s during the early 2016 even till the series in England. Should have put more effort in strengthening exercises especially on power and endurance something Indian bowlers (Bhuvneshwar, Shami and Ishant have done admirably since 2014). Bhuvneshwar used to be a 120 kph bowler during his first few years, but then improved and increased his pace to around 140kph(don't know his current status since his injuries during last year or so). Ishant lost his pace around 2010. But he managed to get it up again under guidance of some good coaching and training.

Chris Woakes used to be a conventional English bowler who bowled in early 130s and had a good outswinger but he was dropped and he came back around 2014 with 10 kph added pace.

So Amir's excuse of ban changing his body for good is stupid unless he is 4 or 5 years older than his stated age.

 

[Shoaibbtt]

He was bowling in 140s during the early 2016 even till the series in England. Should have put more effort in strengthening exercises especially on power and endurance something Indian bowlers (Bhuvneshwar, Shami and Ishant have done admirably since 2014). Bhuvneshwar used to be a 120 kph bowler during his first few years, but then improved and increased his pace to around 140kph(don't know his current status since his injuries during last year or so). Ishant lost his pace around 2010. But he managed to get it up again under guidance of some good coaching and training.

Chris Woakes used to be a conventional English bowler who bowled in early 130s and had a good outswinger but he was dropped and he came back around 2014 with 10 kph added pace.

So Amir's excuse of ban changing his body for good is stupid unless he is 4 or 5 years older than his stated age.

Hope is all you have for Amir, however based on current form Amir is not proving his worth and anyone logical would be right in not selecting him.

 

[BunnyRabbit]

Hope is all you have for Amir, however based on current form Amir is not proving his worth and anyone logical would be right in not selecting him.

Nah I don't have any hopes for him. He is a lazy, adamant and a self centred individual content with mediocrity.

 

[Shoaibbtt]

Nah I don't have any hopes for him. He is a lazy, adamant and a self centred individual content with mediocrity.

Pretty much what i say about him, I think we probably need to toss him aside. He doesn't care about intl duty and it's all about the money for him. He's always had that mentality and will never change it.

 

[Yk313]

Nah I don't have any hopes for him. He is a lazy, adamant and a self centred individual content with mediocrity.

With the next T20I WC being in UAE, Hassan and SSA being certified starters, Amir’s chances are slim anyway.

The only thing that could have given fuel to the fire was PSL but given the lack of threads here on his performance, it looks like he fizzled out. Which makes sense because there hasn’t been any interview or statement from him about inclusion in recent times either.

 

[BunnyRabbit]

With the next T20I WC being in UAE, Hassan and SSA being certified starters, Amir’s chances are slim anyway.

The only thing that could have given fuel to the fire was PSL but given the lack of threads here on his performance, it looks like he fizzled out. Which makes sense because there hasn’t been any interview or statement from him about inclusion in recent times either.

The one thing good about his bowling is his controlled bowling. He usually maintains his composure and doesn't let emotions get to him like for example Hassan in the eliminator started his first over with 5wd and a no balls and was quite erratic earlier on. That's the one thing Amir provides. He doesn't bowl many wides or no balls but he has been in awful form of late.

 

[MenInG]

Was it wise for Wasim Khan to blindside Misbah and Waqar?

Waqar Younis speaking to media:

"Look I was not aware that Wasim Khan has met Mohammad Amir, and what was said in that meeting only became known via media and news reports; Wasim Khan is the CE of Pakistan cricket and he has every right to see whichever player he wishes to see and he met Amir on a personal basis - we were not aware of this meeting but now that this has been revealed, it's caused controversy"

"A lot has been said about Mohammad Amir's situation, and there is no doubt that he is a fine cricketer but if he doesn't want to play or take his retirement back and play and impress selectors then, it is hard [to bring him back]; Remember this Pakistan cricket and not the domain of one person like you or me, so you [Amir] have to do the right things to play for your country; This is not franchise cricket - One has to remember that"

 

[Ucdkee]

Was it wise for Wasim Khan to blindside Misbah and Waqar?

Waqar Younis speaking to media:

"Look I was not aware that Wasim Khan has met Mohammad Amir, and what was said in that meeting only became known via media and news reports; Wasim Khan is the CE of Pakistan cricket and he has every right to see whichever player he wishes to see and he met Amir on a personal basis - we were not aware of this meeting but now that this has been revealed, it's caused controversy"

"A lot has been said about Mohammad Amir's situation, and there is no doubt that he is a fine cricketer but if he doesn't want to play or take his retirement back and play and impress selectors then, it is hard [to bring him back]; Remember this Pakistan cricket and not the domain of one person like you or me, so you [Amir] have to do the right things to play for your country; This is not franchise cricket - One has to remember that"

Expecting another response from amir now on how he has been mistreated and how well he has performing in franchise cricket.

 

[TheSultan]

Good work by Wasim Khan to visit Amir.
Amir got Kohli out 2 times in 2 balls in the Champions Trophy final. Who else can do that? If I had to choose the bowlers for the T20 world cup for Pakistan, Amir would be the first one. He can bowl and bat better than Afridi and Hassan Ali or anyone else. Amir can turn the ball both ways. Can Afridi do that? No.

Amir in the CT 2017 was a shadow of the bowler he was in 2010. And right now he’s a shadow of the 2017 Amir.

If all this controversy was about the 2010 Amir or even the 2017 version, I’d be right behind him. But he is playing his cards when as a bowler he is at the lowest point of his career (from a cricketing perspective). Not the wisest thing to do.

I would just tell Amir. Go back to domestic, train, see if you can back to a decent level and try and find a way back.

I do think he has a point regarding the toxic environment Waqar and misbah have created, but he really is in no position to bargain at the mo

 

[gazza619]

I know Amir has been thrashed in the hundred but looking at looking at Sam Curran playing for England bowling those 80 mph swingers, I wonder Amir could have done a similar job for Pakistan.

The only reason I have a half door open in my heart for Amir is because he is actually a very good number 8 batsman for test match cricket. We do have a spot for a bowling allrounder in our test team. With 5 bowlers there wont be much pressure on Amir.

 

[Deewana Mastana]

I know Amir has been thrashed in the hundred but looking at looking at Sam Curran playing for England bowling those 80 mph swingers, I wonder Amir could have done a similar job for Pakistan.

The only reason I have a half door open in my heart for Amir is because he is actually a very good number 8 batsman for test match cricket. We do have a spot for a bowling allrounder in our test team. With 5 bowlers there wont be much pressure on Amir.

Amir and a No.8 test batsman?! LOL

Have you seen his batting since his comeback?! He looks like a proper tailender who at times looks literally scared of the ball coming towards him when he's batting and even at times in the field.

His batting has gone down the drain just the same way as his bowling has over the last 1-2 years as he just doesn't look to be interested in putting in the hard yards of working up the table and playing in domestic cricket if he is to be representing Pak again.

Even the way he had got thrashed by absolute newbies in the hundred just went on to show how much he has actually declined despite all the hype and praise Warne and KP had ushered upon him just because of his 2009-2010 heroics in England.

 

[Titan24]

I know Amir has been thrashed in the hundred but looking at looking at Sam Curran playing for England bowling those 80 mph swingers, I wonder Amir could have done a similar job for Pakistan.

Curran is a pretty decent batsman with 18 FC 50s, 2 List A 50s and 6 T20 50s and is a bowling all rounder. Amir has 4 50s across the formats and that was pre ban most likely. If Amir wouldnt have squandered his career or worked hard on his game afterwards he could have been a handy lower order bat.

Amir is neither good enough in my opinion for that number 8 spot nor he is available. His bowling is not only lacking zip currently but, also consistent movement as well even with the new ball. He has given no indication of taking test retirement back and since his longer format retirement he has been in a downward spiral.

I am afraid he is in a very difficult position where his cricket as well as reputation in Pak cricket circles is struggling. Though I hope he can turn it around.

 

[Mainul]

As long as Misbah is in any big post of Pakistan cricket, nothing more than ordinary will happen

 

[gazza619]

Curran is a pretty decent batsman with 18 FC 50s, 2 List A 50s and 6 T20 50s and is a bowling all rounder. Amir has 4 50s across the formats and that was pre ban most likely. If Amir wouldnt have squandered his career or worked hard on his game afterwards he could have been a handy lower order bat.

Amir is neither good enough in my opinion for that number 8 spot nor he is available. His bowling is not only lacking zip currently but, also consistent movement as well even with the new ball. He has given no indication of taking test retirement back and since his longer format retirement he has been in a downward spiral.

I am afraid he is in a very difficult position where his cricket as well as reputation in Pak cricket circles is struggling. Though I hope he can turn it around.

I still think there is gas left in Amir’s tank.

I rather we get rid of Misbah & Waqar and see what Amir can contribute. I strongly believe Amir can bowl 10-12 good overs in a day and give us 20 solid runs with the bat.

 

[Ucdkee]

and the drama continues

 

[Varun]

and the drama continues

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Is he's lucky, he might get 2 wickets across the entire PSL.

 

[moghul]

Is he's lucky, he might get 2 wickets across the entire PSL.

This is the guy who won a T20 WC and a champion trophy for his country, go easy on him .

 

[Caved12]

It is time for you to shut up and continue playing in these T10 or T20 leagues. Don't want to hear from a fixer who retired from test earlier and then had trouble keeping up with his fitness levels even for the shortest version of this game.

 

[Oneking]

He is supporting his country and his people what’s wrong with that?

 

[Caved12]

He is supporting his country and his people what’s wrong with that?

No, he is not. He could have but he chose to retire because he was not getting enough respect lol

 

[shamaan]

He is supporting his country and his people what’s wrong with that?

Yes definitely supporting his country.