"We cannot afford any miscalculation at this time. Better sense should prevail" : Imran Khan

[IMMY69]

This is no longer Gandhi's "eye for an eye" but Modi's fascist India that needs a proper spanking. If there is a nuke war then both countries will be destroyed. Acting like a wimp is not the answer here at all. IK often accused Nawaz of being to soft on India and now acts like a complete coward coming on TV every day with the same lecture. If India provokes us then we will answer back with venom nuclear war or not. If Modi does not want peace then no point begging for it.

My dear Pakistani scouser friend
I think the situation is getting to you and may be clouding your judgement...

Take a breath

 

[PakLFC]

He's not telling us about it every day. He gave one speech where he spelled out Pakistan's position and left India with a face-saving way out. Just because you are reading it every day doesn't mean he is repeating it.

He keeps saying the same thing. IK is looking like a proper coward here. Even the Indian media is saying he is "begging for peace". I don't blame them.

 

[PakLFC]

My dear Pakistani scouser friend
I think the situation is getting to you and may be clouding your judgement...

Take a breath

I am breathing fine. What judgement of mines are you questioning? I am not a Liverpudlian at all.

 

[PakLFC]

I have family near the border, i dont want war with India, i live in UK, anyone who wants war is crazy however if country gets attacked they have right to defend themselves.

India has much more to lose, they no longer will have dreams of being super power once Pak throws a nuke.

Likewise pak will be over if India does the same.

Yes we can be patriotic but no war.

Of course no one wants war. The point is that if the enemy forces it then we have to fight. Indoa never was and never will be a super power. They are delusional people.

 

[PakLFC]

Are you volunteering to be the on the frontlines when war breaks out? Because that's very admirable of you.

Yes if needed I will be there. I believe we must defend our selves if provoked like we are. Passiveness is not for me. Would you do nothing if the enemy kept attacking?

 

[PakLFC]

Dude, you got no idea what you're talking about.

Go to a shrink or something.

"Nuclear war or not"

Do you even live in Pakistan?

Don't be daft! Cowardice may be your thing but it's not mines! You want us to stand there and take a hammering? Show some guts! Location has nothing to do with it.

 

[Bewal Express]

He keeps saying the same thing. IK is looking like a proper coward here. Even the Indian media is saying he is "begging for peace". I don't blame them.

Where are you based? Not on the front line I bet.

 

[TalhaSyed]

Warmongers on both sides of the border should be handed a gun and sent to the front line.

This would be a great way to tackle the population problem both countries are facing, whilst increasing the collective IQ of both countries at the same time.

 

[rhony]

He keeps saying the same thing. IK is looking like a proper coward here. Even the Indian media is saying he is "begging for peace". I don't blame them.

Coward? Dude I've never seen Pakistan take a high road so many times as they did in the last two days. This is just unbelievable poise. He already showed it through actions and there is no need to pander to the lowest common denominator through words. This is elite leadership.

 

[WhenSultansBowled]

Don't be daft! Cowardice may be your thing but it's not mines! You want us to stand there and take a hammering? Show some guts! Location has nothing to do with it.

Nobody is questioning your bravery

We ain't standing back, and neither are we taking any hammering. If India decides to go full war then... so be it. It's our right to defend.

But what you are advocating (in previous post) is wrong from a humane point of view. A small nuclear missile can result in loss of a large number of lives.

Imran Khan realises that, and that's why he's talking about peace. He is looking for the interest of Pakistan and the Pakistanis. That doesn't make him a wimp. As a leader his first responsibility is to protect his country.

Hopefully it makes some sense now.

 

[Bewal Express]

Nobody is questioning your bravery

We ain't standing back, and neither are we taking any hammering. If India decides to go full war then... so be it. It's our right to defend.

But what you are advocating (in previous post) is wrong from a humane point of view. A small nuclear missile can result in loss of a large number of lives.

Imran Khan realises that, and that's why he's talking about peace. He is looking for the interest of Pakistan and the Pakistanis. That doesn't make him a wimp. As a leader his first responsibility is to protect his country.

Hopefully it makes some sense now.

Good post, this is the time to calmness, not for pointless bravado. India entered PK air space, we replied. IK offered peace talks, if Ind escalates, we need to be ready to reply. The whole of the PK leadership has been professional, and I want it to stay that way.

 

[ChennaiFan]

Outstanding post.

It's war mongering from people that aren't ever going to see the frontlines of any battle. And from people that don't even live in the country.

Modi has politicized the Indian Army to win the elections this year and unfortunately nationalism is a dangerous thing. It makes people blind.

Pakistan has made the right move by offering peace while not showing weakness. The right thing now would be to make a move on the likes of JeM because historically they have harboured terrorists even if they don't anymore. I don't know what the move will be because these organizations have a very vocal support that can bring the country to a standstill using mob mentality. That's why it is difficult for Pakistan to make a move on them without proof and in the open.

That being said, I have no doubts that the Pulwama attack was something that originated from within India. It was a Kashmiri using bombs made in India. But with JeM claiming the attack on twitter, India had an easy scapegoat that implicated Pakistan as well.

Yes, Pakistani government and the military are showing good maturity in the whole episode. Hope we get a peaceful resolution of the current conflict and Kashmir issue in general.

Though I hesitate to talk about India's political failure on Kashmir here, I would say this: Nehru and Congress government failed to resolve the issue in 50's. People of Kashmir (for that matter people of any land) deserve self determination of their future. Central government at that time had great opportunity to solve it for everyone's good. Had it happened, we, and our future generations would be living happily. Now, the issue had become very complex for any solution at all. Having said that, it is on us to find a peaceful solution that leads to happy life for the Kashmiris. Hope India and Pakistan get into open minded, quality discussions soon.

 

[adzzy786]

Such a disappointed adress to nation. Coward

Mate your an idiot. How old are you 7?

 

[kingusama92]

Really hope common sense prevails on Modi's end.

Further escalation and this could truly spiral out of control.

 

[RickyG]

Yes, Pakistani government and the military are showing good maturity in the whole episode. Hope we get a peaceful resolution of the current conflict and Kashmir issue in general.

Though I hesitate to talk about India's political failure on Kashmir here, I would say this: Nehru and Congress government failed to resolve the issue in 50's. People of Kashmir (for that matter people of any land) deserve self determination of their future. Central government at that time had great opportunity to solve it for everyone's good. Had it happened, we, and our future generations would be living happily. Now, the issue had become very complex for any solution at all. Having said that, it is on us to find a peaceful solution that leads to happy life for the Kashmiris. Hope India and Pakistan get into open minded, quality discussions soon.

I think acknowledging mistakes made in the past is a good step. Kashmiris do deserve self-determination but then Indians will ask, what did we shed so many lives for? And with so much bad blood, Kashmir will be a hostile state towards India at least as things stand currently.

India needs to look inwards to resolve the Kashmir issue. They need to first create some sort of goodwill with Kashmiris and then seek solutions regarding Kashmir. The problem is even if an Indian leader takes those steps, will the Indian people accept giving Kashmir the right to self-determine?

 

[IMMY69]

I am breathing fine. What judgement of mines are you questioning? I am not a Liverpudlian at all.

Ok look.
You’re usually a very good poster so not sure what’s happened here...
You are sooo off the mark here that’s actuslly beggars belief...

This is one time were the entire country is actually getting behind a leader who is not only talking sense but is the also winning the PR war which is unheard of for Pakistan.

No one is taking a step back and nor was his speech weak or anything like how you described it...

 

[sjahmed23]

Warmongers on both sides of the border should be handed a gun and sent to the front line.

This would be a great way to tackle the population problem both countries are facing, whilst increasing the collective IQ of both countries at the same time.

There are no warmongers on Pak side. This is all indian aggression to feel they are big boys and they were put in their place within 24 hours.

 

[sshakir411]

India’s accusations against Pakistan are factual. As a nation, we have long been a safe haven for terrorists and very little has changed on that front.

Our anti-terror campaigns are only limited to terrorists who are not on our payroll. The ones who are are allowed to room freely and join politics.

India had the upper hand till today, but they have been humiliated because Pakistan were successful in executing their mission but India were not.

Had IAF done some damage yesterday instead of uprooting some trees, our response today would have evened things out.

However, since they botched their mission, Pakistan have clearly won this mini war.

Modi’s aggression looks misplaced in hindsight because the Indian forces failed. Had Pakistan botched their mission today, Imran would have looked stupid as well.

Ultimately, India has been let down by the IAF.

Bit disappointed to see your knowledge be a little hollow on the topic. Maybe it’s just that you’ve been posting more regularly so not all posts are as genuine as before.

The issues run deeper than terrorism and rounding up all bad guys isn’t going to fix the bad blood between the two countries. Both sides need to get on the table to talk about a host of things and India has shied away from it all.

I agree Pakistan can do a lot on the terrorism side but at this point it’s a “you scratch my back and I scratch yours” situation. India needs to come and sit across the table and be willing to do what Pakistan asks in exchange. They can take turns and by the time each has done 3 things for the other peace shall prevail.

India will have to make concessions and so will Pakistan. No one can come out on top because the other will always hold a grudge.

Not sure the regional “Gorilla” is willing to give any bananas to the baboons in this fight though.

 

[Savak]

India’s accusations against Pakistan are factual. As a nation, we have long been a safe haven for terrorists and very little has changed on that front.

Our anti-terror campaigns are only limited to terrorists who are not on our payroll. The ones who are are allowed to room freely and join politics.

India had the upper hand till today, but they have been humiliated because Pakistan were successful in executing their mission but India were not.

Had IAF done some damage yesterday instead of uprooting some trees, our response today would have evened things out.

However, since they botched their mission, Pakistan have clearly won this mini war.

Modi’s aggression looks misplaced in hindsight because the Indian forces failed. Had Pakistan botched their mission today, Imran would have looked stupid as well.

Ultimately, India has been let down by the IAF.

These terrorists were the Afghan Freedom fighters, the Holy Warriors in the words of Ronald Reagan during the USSR invasion of Afghanistan, they were funded by the US from 1979 to 1989 and Pakistan were instructed by the US to comply. Pakistan today is suffering because of backing the US in Afghanistan and thanks to Zia ul Haq's legacy of inflaming religious extremism and secretarianism in our society.

 

[PakLFC]

Nobody is questioning your bravery

We ain't standing back, and neither are we taking any hammering. If India decides to go full war then... so be it. It's our right to defend.

But what you are advocating (in previous post) is wrong from a humane point of view. A small nuclear missile can result in loss of a large number of lives.

Imran Khan realises that, and that's why he's talking about peace. He is looking for the interest of Pakistan and the Pakistanis. That doesn't make him a wimp. As a leader his first responsibility is to protect his country.

Hopefully it makes some sense now.

Perception is important in any conflict. IK has shown Pak to be a weak nation which is why India is running headlines say we have surrendered. There was never gonna be a nuke war that you are so terrified. There was absolutely no chance of happening that. Again our PM gave the impression that our nukes are unsafe. What I am seeing is a scared PM who has no guts at all, from now on he should be renamed as Darpok Khan. Just wait a few days when India will start making trouble again at the border after we release their pilot. People like you will never understand that there can never be peace wiith India.

 

[PakLFC]

Ok look.
You’re usually a very good poster so not sure what’s happened here...
You are sooo off the mark here that’s actuslly beggars belief...

This is one time were the entire country is actually getting behind a leader who is not only talking sense but is the also winning the PR war which is unheard of for Pakistan.

No one is taking a step back and nor was his speech weak or anything like how you described it...

Why are we sending back their pilot giving in to them so easily? India is called us things like scared and having surrendered coz of Darpok Khan. He is completely wrong here that will be seen when India again crosses the LOC in a few days or do something even worse. I am not sure that the entire country agree's with Darpok Khan here at all. People in the know like Zaid Hamid are rightfully having a go at him, now I am no Zaid fan at all. I am not saying we should kill or beat up their soldier but IK is dealing with this entire scenario wrongly. India is creating trouble for us whenever possible and we are offering them candy in return.

 

[IAJ]

Perception is important in any conflict. IK has shown Pak to be a weak nation which is why India is running headlines say we have surrendered. There was never gonna be a nuke war that you are so terrified. There was absolutely no chance of happening that. Again our PM gave the impression that our nukes are unsafe. What I am seeing is a scared PM who has no guts at all, from now on he should be renamed as Darpok Khan. Just wait a few days when India will start making trouble again at the border after we release their pilot. People like you will never understand that there can never be peace wiith India.

It looks like you are scared here, not Imran Khan. Firstly you should understand that Army is also behind this decision so you can also say darpok army if you want.

Secondly this was a masterstroke by Imran and army. They have humiliated India here, completely. They have taken down their jets, got their pilot and now just saying to India: "Here take him, but come better prepared next time".

It is India who have lost Aircrafts, lives etc. Pakistan haven't lost a thing, but instead earned respect of the world.


Lastly, why are you scared? If India want's war let them come.

 

[PakLFC]

It looks like you are scared here, not Imran Khan. Firstly you should understand that Army is also behind this decision so you can also say darpok army if you want.

Secondly this was a masterstroke by Imran and army. They have humiliated India here, completely. They have taken down their jets, got their pilot and now just saying to India: "Here take him, but come better prepared next time".

It is India who have lost Aircrafts, lives etc. Pakistan haven't lost a thing, but instead earned respect of the world.


Lastly, why are you scared? If India want's war let them come.

How can I who is calling for not releasing their pilot so soon be afraid? I do not believe the army is behind it rather the buzdill PM probably overruled them.

No what you said is not how I see it. The Indian media is rightfully saying Pak has surrendered so early without showing any intent. As I said before this will give them the confidence to do much more now. At the very least we should have held on to the pilot for a month or two. Why are you stealing my thunder here? On one hand you seem to be agreeing with Darpok Khan whilst at the same time calling for war?

 

[IAJ]

How can I who is calling for not releasing their pilot so soon be afraid? I do not believe the army is behind it rather the buzdill PM probably overruled them.

No what you said is not how I see it. The Indian media is rightfully saying Pak has surrendered so early without showing any intent. As I said before this will give them the confidence to do much more now. At the very least we should have held on to the pilot for a month or two. Why are you stealing my thunder here? On one hand you seem to be agreeing with Darpok Khan whilst at the same time calling for war?

Lol, I am not a thief. Just trying to hammer some sense in your brain. I am not asking for a war. I said if India want's war let them come. And that is in line With what the PM and DGISPR have said. They don't want war but if India try to attack Pakistan, Pakistan will retaliate. That is all what I am saying.

And are you really taking India media seriously? Bro, if you had killed all of their soldiers they would still say India won because they sacrified all of their army. They are just spouting out rubbish and lies, nothing else.

 

[PakLFC]

Lol, I am not a thief. Just trying to hammer some sense in your brain. I am not asking for a war. I said if India want's war let them come. And that is in line With what the PM and DGISPR have said. They don't want war but if India try to attack Pakistan, Pakistan will retaliate. That is all what I am saying.

And are you really taking India media seriously? Bro, if you had killed all of their soldiers they would still say India won because they sacrified all of their army. They are just spouting out rubbish and lies, nothing else.

What you are is an embarrassment! When we have the enemy on the floor people like you want to give them back their pilot!!? They are already saying we are doing this as we are weak and have surrendered our advantage. What I am telling you is that although they may not want war their tone is still threatening so we should put them in their place here. Tell them that we are not releasing your pilot until we are good and ready. Why the need to hurry him back so soon when they would never do that had our man been in their custody. Serious or not I want to see the Indian media on their knee's even more. Zaid Hamid absolutely correct that we are letting their pilot go home without getting anything in return. IK is more interested in winning some popularity contest in India it seems. In a war like state when the enemy is down you don't help them to get up! India will not stop making trouble for us even if we play the good neighbour here.

 

[cririri]

What you are is an embarrassment! When we have the enemy on the floor people like you want to give them back their pilot!!? They are already saying we are doing this as we are weak and have surrendered our advantage. What I am telling you is that although they may not want war their tone is still threatening so we should put them in their place here. Tell them that we are not releasing your pilot until we are good and ready. Why the need to hurry him back so soon when they would never do that had our man been in their custody. Serious or not I want to see the Indian media on their knee's even more. Zaid Hamid absolutely correct that we are letting their pilot go home without getting anything in return. IK is more interested in winning some popularity contest in India it seems. In a war like state when the enemy is down you don't help them to get up! India will not stop making trouble for us even if we play the good neighbour here.

Not our fault bro if you have nothing better to do than watching rubbish all day

 

[PakLFC]

Not our fault bro if you have nothing better to do than watching rubbish all day

If that is the best you cab do then I really feel sorry for you. I would make you fight India when war starts soon, These people have more knowledge in their pinky then you do in your entire being. Sheikh Rasheed and Orya Maqbool are also having a go at that IK.