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"We don't need cricket with India to survive" : Ehsan Mani

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Ehsan Mani in a video:

"Cricketers are an important stakeholder in Pakistan cricket. Domestic and international both, and centrally contracted ones. I assure you we will safeguard your interests as much as we can. There will be no unusual cuts.

"Performance-based contracts change according to what the selectors decide. We won't make any of the staff redundant, normal changes keep happening and PCB is undergoing a restructuring process. All retired international cricketers will receive their pensions.

"There will be no changes in the contracts for domestic cricket. Our main focus is on safeguarding the players and staff at this moment. Without the staff, the board can't work and without the players, we're nothing. These are our priorities.

"We have to look after the former cricketers. If anyone is in distress, they know they can contact the PCB and we'll go out of our way to help them if we can. In the last 2-3 years, especially relating to health issues where they needed special support, we have given them money and we will continue to do so.

"If we have to cut costs to make sure there's no disruption in this process, we'll do so. We have to focus on efficiency and better ways of doing things.

"Our most important commercial contract is our bilateral series' media rights. It's about to expire and the cricket content we have till 2023 includes visits by Aus, Eng, NZ, and series against SA hopefully so the series are good. The way we market and monetize it is a challenge for us.

"The broadcasters, for example, England's broadcasters are going through pain and are under pressure. Sports broadcasters and the industry will be under a lot of economic pressures so they may not be able to pay what they used to previously. So we're thinking about this from an alternative base as well.

"Our major contracts like our contract with Pepsi is expiring in 2021. They are a major partner of Pakistan cricket so to renew these contracts, we need certainty about when cricket will return to Pakistan. For that, we need to show flexibility to meet their expectations and our aspirations.

"Not having India series costs us but we're not thinking about that. As they say, pie in the sky. If it's not there, it's not there. We have to live without them, we don't need them to survive.

"I am clear that whether we face India or not, we need to plan on the basis of us not facing them because India did promise to face us previously but they pulled out. So they are unreliable, we can't rely on cricket resuming with India anytime in the foreseeable future. If it happens, good. We face them in ICC events, that's fine. We're interested in cricket and we keep politics and cricket separate.

"Regarding empty stadiums, there are still a lot of challenges. Teams still have to travel via airplanes. The risk begins there. Then they have to stay in hotels, travel via local transport. Only empty stadiums aren't the answer, the logistical arrangements also have to be looked at.

"It also depends on where cricket can be held around the world, that's not in our control. If it's in control and England request us to come and play our matches there while they play another series simultaneously if they want to play Tests and white-ball cricket, we will do that if it's the need of the hour and we'll work with them.

"The tour will go on insha'Allah, but we have to be prepared for disruptions, our plans will need to be flexible and there will have to be goodwill.

"The Asia Cup is a big challenge, we don't know what will happen by Sep-Oct when this is scheduled for. We are hopeful it will happen but if things don't improve and it doesn't, it'll be a challenge for us to see what happens with it next year.

"For me, the Asia Cup is important because it results in funding for Asian cricket. The resources are limited and when we have Asia Cup every 2 years, we allocate money for the next two years for the associate countries like Nepal, Malaysia, Singapore, Indonesia, UAE, Saudi Arabia. To support cricket in these countries, it's important to hold the Asia Cup.

"The factual position is that the ACC meeting didn't take place. The ICC meeting was scheduled for March and they were both to be held together. With one postponed, the other was also postponed.

"As for when and where the Asia Cup will be held, no one knows that because we don't know how the situation will progress. When there is some clarity about this then we'll sit and talk. It's good that the ACC renewed some commercial contracts last year, so if we hold the Asia Cup, it can be activated very quickly. But when and where it'll be held isn't in our hands right now."
 
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is it some kind of repeated cycle we are witnessing here?
or is it like mandatory for every PCB chief to come up with same damn statement .. & then go to BCCI with begging bowl
pathetic
 
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is it some kind of repeated cycle we are witnessing here?
or is it like mandatory for every PCB chief to come up with same damn statement .. & then go to BCCI with begging bowl
pathetic

I think he clearly mentions we don't need India to survive and that's been proven in last 10 years cricket in Pakistan did not fold.
 
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Strong words from Mani and it seems the message has finally got through to the PCB.

The reality is though BCCI won't give a damn what Mani or Wasim Khan have to say.
 
is it some kind of repeated cycle we are witnessing here?
or is it like mandatory for every PCB chief to come up with same damn statement .. & then go to BCCI with begging bowl just like their Pm goes around the world.
pathetic

You are trying very hard to turn this statement into something that it isn't.

Talk about the Pakistani begging bowl all you want. We are well aware it exists here, but mind that the sheer lack of self awareness on your side of the border doesn't come back to bite you.
 
Strong words from Mani and it seems the message has finally got through to the PCB.

The reality is though BCCI won't give a damn what Mani or Wasim Khan have to say.

BCCI did give a damn about what Sethi had to say, why will they not care about what Ehsan Mani and Wasim Khan have to say?
 
India still has more poor people than whole of sub Saharan Africa.India used to get massive aid from western countries.Tiny countries like Norway were giving aid to India to build health centers.UK was giving aid to India till last year.When your economy collapse you will find it hard to feed 1.5 billion people.Every country I have been to it is full of Indians because India can not provide jobs to its people.The coronavirus has exposed India badly.Infians were portraying India as a super power but India is still a poor country.Yes there are many rich Indians but the inequality seen in India is not found in many other countries.
 
Finally our cat turns to a Tiger. Hopefully it doesn’t reverse.
 
Then what exactly was the lawsuit against the BCCI for? All we have ever heard since the last 12 years from the PCB is begging for India to play with their team. So much that it got to the nerves of PP posters who were ashamed at the PCB for lacking any type of self respect.
 
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It's funny how Ehsan Mani releases these statements every month, and somehow it has the same effect on these Indians - every. single. time. :)))

Doesn't take a lot for our parosis to get their kickers in a twist, does it.
 
Then what exactly was the lawsuit against the BCCI for? All we have ever heard since the last 12 years from the PCB is begging for India to play with their team. So much that it got to the nerves of PP posters who were ashamed at the PCB for lacking any type of self respect.

because India is unreliable and canceled two series with Pakistan.
 
It's funny how Ehsan Mani releases these statements every month, and somehow it has the same effect on these Indians - every. single. time. :)))

Doesn't take a lot for our parosis to get their kickers in a twist, does it.

Lol. Laughing at fake bravado and shallow statements doesn't mean gEtTiNg kNiCkErS iN a TwIsT.....

It has all happened before with PCB chiefs only to end up begging BCCI for a tour and filing lawsuits if they don't comply...
 
Lol. Laughing at fake bravado and shallow statements doesn't mean gEtTiNg kNiCkErS iN a TwIsT.....

It has all happened before with PCB chiefs only to end up begging BCCI for a tour and filing lawsuits if they don't comply...
learn the difference between begging, and honoring your contract.

you must be confusing pakistan with afghanistan and bangladesh...

no one is begging you guys. we survived 10 years without any series where everyone is dependent on you and now we have a great product in PSL, so we will continue the upward trend.

thanks
 
Some of the post here are so irrelevant that it makes you cringe. India and Pakistan both have problems and need to accept that rather than fake bravado.

I listened to this whole podcast and it was around 1 hour and 10 minutes on soundcloud. Some of the things that I got from the post:

PCB has finally accepted that BCCI are not going to play any bilaterals with Pakistan at least in the foreseeable future because this decision is betond BCCI and more so upto the government and we know it is ruled by ring wing and we know what they think about Pakistan. So it will be safe to say that finally PCB has realised that this is not going to happen and as a result they are going to take a huge cut in the next cycle of 2020-2023 broadcasting rights. The last time it was around $146 M but there were some bilateral series with India. But due to the fact that these series never took place PCB went through a loss of around $80 M.

Now Mani and Wasim (in Stump Mic podcast) have both accepted that the broadcasting rights in this next cycle is going to take a hit because of no India match and they have to make sure that they remain innovative and creative at the same time. They talked about making sure that they get the maximum out of this deal in some other ways.

Other things were also discussed by Ehsan Mani but they will never be discussed so go on.... India vs Pakistan.
 
Then what exactly was the lawsuit against the BCCI for? All we have ever heard since the last 12 years from the PCB is begging for India to play with their team. So much that it got to the nerves of PP posters who were ashamed at the PCB for lacking any type of self respect.

Actually the PCB home series with India were abandoned twice by the BCCI causing PCB massive losses. The PCB has every right to claim its losses
 
Won’t agree to Asia Cup cancellation to accommodate IPL: Ehsan Mani

Won’t agree to Asia Cup cancellation to accommodate IPL: PCB Chairman Ehsan Mani

Pakistan were to host the event but it was shifted to Dubai and Abu Dhabi after India expressed reluctance to come here owing to security concerns and the strained diplomatic ties between the two countries.

CRICKET Updated: Apr 15, 2020 11:11 IST

Press Trust of India

London

Pakistan Cricket Board chairman Ehsan Mani has asserted that the PCB will not agree to cancelling the Asia Cup, scheduled in the UAE in September, to make room for the Indian Premier League, which has been postponed due to the COVID-19 pandemic. The IPL was to be held from March 29 to May 24 but has been postponed indefinitely because of a extended lockdown to combat the deadly virus in India. “I have read and heard about these speculations but right now just remember that having or not having the Asia Cup is not a decision between Pakistan and India it involves other countries as well,” asserted Mani on Tuesday.

Pakistan were to host the event but it was shifted to Dubai and Abu Dhabi after India expressed reluctance to come here owing to security concerns and the strained diplomatic ties between the two countries. “...it is important to have the Asia Cup if cricket activities resume by then because development of Asian cricket depends on funding from the tournament. It is important for many countries who are members of the Asian Cricket Council,” he added in a podcast released by the PCB.

However, he also conceded that holding the Asia Cup this year is a big challenge because right now “we don’t know if it can be held or not.”

“But if the conditions change and we can have the Asia Cup, it must be held as earnings from it are distributed as development funds to member countries for next two years,” he said.

He said reports about the Asia Cup being hosted by Bangladesh or UAE were mere speculation at this stage. Speaking about another big event, Mani warned that if the T20 World Cup, to be held in Australia in October-November, is postponed, the financial fallout will be big for many countries.

“The financial impact will be felt by many countries if the ICC can’t distribute their shares from the tournament. Many countries including Pakistan will feel the pinch,” he admitted. Mani confirmed that Pakistan was to receive around USD 7 to 8 million in June and January.

“Pakistan is fortunate it has good financial controls in place and in short term, it will be better off than most countries if the lockdowns continue because of the coronavirus pandemic,” he claimed. “We are to get 7 to 8 Million dollars from the ICC in June but we know they might not come so we have planned accordingly,” he added.

On whether Pakistan’s forthcoming tours to Holland, Ireland and England between late June and August will go ahead, Mani said the PCB was prepared for disruptions. But he ruled out resumption of international cricket in empty stadiums.

“Empty stadiums also offer their big challenges as teams have to travel by air and stay in hotels so the risks start there. The logistical arrangements have to be manageable,” he explained. Mani said Pakistan was prepared to show goodwill and flexibility and support the hosts of these tours. “We wouldn’t mind if two series are held at the same time like one team playing Tests and another white-ball cricket. In these difficult times we need to support each other,” he said.

Mani also revealed that Pakistan had shown interest in hosting several ICC tournaments to be held between 2023 and 2031, including the ICC Youth Cup and World Cups. “Unfortunately the last time the cycle of ICC events were bid for the big three, India, Australia and England distributed all the main events among themselves. This time I can say there are more countries interested in hosting the events,” he said.

Link: https://www.hindustantimes.com/cric...-ehsan-mani/story-UVna29TjlS0Ygyo9ECr2FO.html

Comments: Rightfully so. A domestic T-20 league cannot take precedence over an international tournament. BCCI should man up and accept the resultant losses and show the world that it indeed has the financial muscle to eat up a loss after 2 decades of big profits and money.
 
As a cricket fan it is proven when India and Pakistan play against each other then it is the blockbuster event in cricket, it is really a shame that majority of cricket fans are deprived of India v Pakistan series
 
Cricket’s Shutdown Is A Financial Strain For The Pakistan Cricket Board

Cricket, like almost every other sport, has been in flux since the coronavirus pandemic derailed everyday life, caused worldwide panic and rocked economies globally.

International cricket has been suspended since the Pakistan Super League (PSL) was postponed on March 17 ahead of the semi-finals. The Pakistan Cricket Board (PCB) hope to reschedule the remainder of the Twenty20 tournament in November-December.

“The northern hemisphere players are free then,” PCB chairman Ehsan Mani tells me via a phone interview. “Some of the Australian players are not in the national team and hopefully they can come back.”

The sudden suspension spoilt a historic PSL, where every match was played in Pakistan for the first time after the previous four editions were mostly played in the UAE. It had been a realization of Mani’s goal when he took over as chairman in 2018 and the tournament was well received by players and fans.

Not being able to complete the tournament was a bitter disappointment.

“The passion that came out of this event was undeniable,” Mani says. “The reaction from overseas players was great. We took matches for the first time to Multan and Rawalpindi and there were massive turnouts.

“It’s been great for lifting the spirit of the country. But there will now be some financial loss.”

Mani says the PCB’s initial “detailed financial analysis” forecasts a loss of about $5-6 million in revenue due to the rest of the Pakistan home season being scrapped, which also includes a Test and an ODI in Karachi against Bangladesh scheduled for earlier this month.

But this could just be the start of financial pain for the PCB. Pakistan was supposed to have a crowded schedule this year marked by a Test tour of England mid-year – which is now in jeopardy.

“The U.K. does not look great with Wimbledon cancelled,” Mani says of Pakistan’s three-Test series against England which was set to start on July 30. “Going forward beyond our season becomes even more critical (financially) and there will especially be a financial impact if the T20 World Cup is cancelled.”

It is still six months away but there is growing doubt over the T20 World Cup, which is scheduled to run from October 18-November 15 in Australia. There are strict travel restrictions in Australia and quarantine measures in place which the Australian government has forecast could be in place for six months.

If the tournament does take place, it is a strong possibility that there will be no fans in attendance unless the coronavirus situation markedly improves in the coming months.

“It's either you play it and everyone just gets on with the job and we're past this pandemic,” former Australia captain Allan Border told Fox Sports Australia. "Or it just has to be cancelled and you try to fit it in somewhere else."

Mani says Pakistan is eager for T20’s flagship tournament to be played but concedes there are stumbling blocks. “We would do anything to get cricket going again,” he says. “But it’s not that simple and there are big logistical challenges.

“If quarantine is imposed on arrival, do players have access to practice facilities during this time? Or if they are locked in a hotel do they have to play straight after? If that is the case then I don’t think people will be happy with that.”

Whenever things get back to normal, Mani insists Pakistan will be permanently based at home having not played a Test match – cricket’s longest format exclusive to just 12 countries – in Pakistan in the 2010s until the last month of the decade.

That was due to the horrific Lahore terrorist attack on the Sri Lankan team in 2009, which forced Pakistan into being nomads and mainly being based in the UAE, where Test matches were mostly played in empty stadiums.

Sri Lanka and Bangladesh have played Tests in Pakistan in recent months without incident - although visiting teams have been granted presidential-like security reinforcements - underlining the improved security situation in the strife-torn nation.

Australia and England are due to tour Pakistan in 2022 – although cricket’s scheduling could well be muddled moving forward – but its respective governing bodies remain coy over the prospect. Australia last toured Pakistan in 1998, while England’s was in 2005.

Mani is adamant Pakistan will no longer use the UAE as a home base with it being a money drain and soulless experience mostly in front of empty stands. A short Test series in the UAE compared to playing in Pakistan would cost an extra $10-15 million for the PCB due to ground rentals, security costs and loss of gate revenue.

“Playing home matches outside of Pakistan - we lose money and it doesn’t help our players and development,” Mani says. “We need to strengthen Pakistan cricket and that means playing at home.

“We will only play in Pakistan unless there are extraordinary reasons.”

Right now, an extraordinary situation has prevented cricket being played in Pakistan – and basically everywhere.

The financial carnage looms.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/trista...-for-the-pakistan-cricket-board/#67d992725bc5
 
The Board of Control for Cricket in India (BCCI) has won the battle against the Pakistan Cricket Board (PCB) as its lawyers convinced the ICC that the reason behind the Indian eves not playing Pakistan in their ODI Championship round was clearly a case of not getting necessary permission from the government.

Speaking to IANS, a BCCI official said that the lawyers representing the Indian board put out the true picture and the international body understood the scenario.

“Our lawyers explained to the ICC that for every tournament, we take the permission of the government and it isn’t just about playing Pakistan. So, if we don’t get clearance from the government, how can we play them? It was just about explaining the scenario,” the official said.

With this the technical committee of the ICC decided decided that teams will share points in all three series in the ICC Women’s Championship that did not take place during the competition window and that saw India on Wednesday qualify for the 2021 Women’s World Cup.

The India-Pakistan series was originally scheduled in the sixth round of the competition, between July and November 2019, but despite the best efforts of both the boards, it was unable to take place, ICC said in a statement.

“With respect to the India vs Pakistan series, the TC concluded that the series could not be played because of a Force Majeure event after the BCCI demonstrated that it was unable to obtain the necessary government clearances to allow India to participate in the bilateral series against Pakistan, which forms a part of the ICC Women’s Championship,” the media statement read.

Interestingly, PCB chief Ehsan Mani on Tuesday made it clear that the Pakistan Cricket Board doesn’t need the BCCI to join hands with them.

“We have suffered losses but they (India) are not in our thinking or planning. It is like a Pie in the Sky situation. We have to live without them and we don’t need them to survive,” he said in a podcast released by the PCB’s media department.

“I am clear if India doesn’t want to play we have to plan without them. Once or twice they have made promises to play against us but pulled out at the last moment.”

https://www.hindustantimes.com/cric...ci-official/story-iiAVwy8VAq3vSUeQxpisoK.html
 
learn the difference between begging, and honoring your contract.

you must be confusing pakistan with afghanistan and bangladesh...

no one is begging you guys. we survived 10 years without any series where everyone is dependent on you and now we have a great product in PSL, so we will continue the upward trend.

thanks

For bcci, it doesn't make any difference, whether its pcb acb or bcb. Immaterial.
 
Then what exactly was the lawsuit against the BCCI for? All we have ever heard since the last 12 years from the PCB is begging for India to play with their team. So much that it got to the nerves of PP posters who were ashamed at the PCB for lacking any type of self respect.
Of all govt and PCB chairmans we have found the best combo now which will never compromise our self respect . I thibk it is problem with journalists who keep on asking these questions .Mani has spoke what a common man wants here in pakistan so full marks.
 
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We have suffered losses but they (India) are not in our thinking or planning. It is like a Pie in the Sky situation. We have to live without them and we don’t need them to survive,” he said in a podcast released by the PCB’s media department.
:salute
“I am clear if India doesn’t want to play we have to plan without them. Once or twice they have made promises to play against us but pulled out at the last moment.”

:salute
 
Cricket, like almost every other sport, has been in flux since the coronavirus pandemic derailed everyday life, caused worldwide panic and rocked economies globally.

International cricket has been suspended since the Pakistan Super League (PSL) was postponed on March 17 ahead of the semi-finals. The Pakistan Cricket Board (PCB) hope to reschedule the remainder of the Twenty20 tournament in November-December.

“The northern hemisphere players are free then,” PCB chairman Ehsan Mani tells me via a phone interview. “Some of the Australian players are not in the national team and hopefully they can come back.”

The sudden suspension spoilt a historic PSL, where every match was played in Pakistan for the first time after the previous four editions were mostly played in the UAE. It had been a realization of Mani’s goal when he took over as chairman in 2018 and the tournament was well received by players and fans.

Not being able to complete the tournament was a bitter disappointment.

“The passion that came out of this event was undeniable,” Mani says. “The reaction from overseas players was great. We took matches for the first time to Multan and Rawalpindi and there were massive turnouts.

“It’s been great for lifting the spirit of the country. But there will now be some financial loss.”

Mani says the PCB’s initial “detailed financial analysis” forecasts a loss of about $5-6 million in revenue due to the rest of the Pakistan home season being scrapped, which also includes a Test and an ODI in Karachi against Bangladesh scheduled for earlier this month.

But this could just be the start of financial pain for the PCB. Pakistan was supposed to have a crowded schedule this year marked by a Test tour of England mid-year – which is now in jeopardy.

“The U.K. does not look great with Wimbledon cancelled,” Mani says of Pakistan’s three-Test series against England which was set to start on July 30. “Going forward beyond our season becomes even more critical (financially) and there will especially be a financial impact if the T20 World Cup is cancelled.”

It is still six months away but there is growing doubt over the T20 World Cup, which is scheduled to run from October 18-November 15 in Australia. There are strict travel restrictions in Australia and quarantine measures which the Australian government has forecast could be in place for six months.

If the tournament does take place, it is a strong possibility that there will be no fans in attendance unless the coronavirus situation markedly improves in the coming months.

“It's either you play it and everyone just gets on with the job and we're past this pandemic,” former Australia captain Allan Border told Fox Sports Australia. "Or it just has to be cancelled and you try to fit it in somewhere else."

Mani says Pakistan is eager for T20’s flagship tournament to be played but concedes there are stumbling blocks. “We would do anything to get cricket going again,” he says. “But it’s not that simple and there are big logistical challenges.

“If quarantine is imposed on arrival, do players have access to practice facilities during this time? Or if they are locked in a hotel do they have to play straight after? If that is the case then I don’t think people will be happy with that.”

Whenever things get back to normal, Mani insists Pakistan will be permanently based at home having not played a Test match – cricket’s longest format exclusive to just 12 countries – in Pakistan in the 2010s until the last month of the decade.

That was due to the horrific Lahore terrorist attack on the Sri Lankan team in 2009, which forced Pakistan into being nomads and mainly being based in the UAE, where Test matches were mostly played in empty stadiums.

Sri Lanka and Bangladesh have played Tests in Pakistan in recent months without incident - although visiting teams have been granted presidential-like security reinforcements - underlining the improved security situation in the strife-torn nation.

Australia and England are due to tour Pakistan in 2022 – although cricket’s scheduling could well be muddled moving forward – but its respective governing bodies remain coy over the prospect. Australia last toured Pakistan in 1998, while England’s was in 2005.

Mani is adamant Pakistan will no longer use the UAE as a home base with it being a money drain and soulless experience mostly in front of empty stands. A short Test series in the UAE compared to playing in Pakistan would cost an extra $10-15 million for the PCB due to ground rentals, security costs and loss of gate revenue.

“Playing home matches outside of Pakistan - we lose money and it doesn’t help our players and development,” Mani says. “We need to strengthen Pakistan cricket and that means playing at home.

“We will only not play in Pakistan unless there are extraordinary reasons.”

Right now, an extraordinary situation has prevented cricket being played in Pakistan – and basically everywhere.

The financial carnage looms

https://www.forbes.com/sites/trista...-for-the-pakistan-cricket-board/#3f303f2b5bc5
 
is it some kind of repeated cycle we are witnessing here?
or is it like mandatory for every PCB chief to come up with same damn statement .. & then go to BCCI with begging bowl
pathetic

Heg ot asked a question and replied to it. What do you want, for him to give a sarky response ala Dhoni or Kohli?

And bro, whether you like it or not, the PCB's earnings from the ICC alone now match CA, so yeah, deal with it.
 
New Delhi: Discussions on resuming bilateral cricket exchanges between India and Pakistan cannot start between the boards unless political relations between the two countries become normal and stable, Pakistan Cricket Board (PCB) chairman Ehsan Mani has said. He also made it clear that he wouldn't request Board of Control for Cricket in India (BCCI) President Sourav Ganguly to let Pakistani players compete in the Indian Premier League (IPL).

"Over the years, the PCB has had a number of discussions with the BCCI regarding bilateral cricket. Whether it is T20 cricket or bilateral, all things are in the hands of the BCCI. At this moment I don't have any intention of playing any T20 league with India. First, they have to sort out the bilateral (political) relations with us, and then we will talk," Mani, 75, told IANS in an exclusive interview.

India have not played a Test series in Pakistan for more than 14 years, and Pakistan have not visited India for almost eight years, though they have played against each other in the International Cricket Council's (ICC) events like the World Cup and the Champions Trophy all these years.


And the only time Pakistani players appeared in the IPL was in its opening edition in 2008, when 11 cricketers represented various franchises. Left-arm speedster Sohail Tavir won the Purple Cup for capturing most wickets -- 22 wickets in the 11 matches -- for champions Rajasthan Royals.

"I am not talking to the BCCI about bilateral cricket. It is up to them to speak to us if they have something to say. The ICC (International Cricket Council) constitution says there should be no government interference. So, I think ICC should be talking to them [BCCI]," Mani, a former ICC president, said, referring to the mandatory permission that BCCI has to take from the Indian government to play against Pakistan.

Mani, however, fondly recalled the harmonious relations between the BCCI and the PCB in 1990s, when he, as the PCB representative, interacted with Madhavrao Scindia and Jagmohan Dalmiya who ruled both the BCCI and the Asian Cricket Council.

"I had enough discussions with Mr Dalmiya; not just him but with Mr Sharad Pawar and going back to the time of Mr Madhavrao Scindia. We have had very, very good and open relations with the BCCI. Over the last 12 years, I find the relationship is not what it used to be. There has to be trust and openness on both sides -- and honesty in dealing with each other," he emphasised.

"To find that the relationship was not what it used to be, I was surprised and disappointed when I came back (as PCB chairman in August 2018). A lot of improvement can be done on this. We could talk to anybody (in normal times), but it takes two hands to clap," Mani, a Fellow of the Institute of Chartered Accountants (England & Wales), said.

The 13th edition of the IPL is set to start on September 19 in the United Arab Emirates (UAE). Like in previous years, no Pakistani player will be part of it, though several Pakistanis have from time to time expressed their desire to play in the world's most lucrative cricket tournament.

Has Mani broached this issue with any of the BCCI officials since taking over as PCB chairman? "No, not at all. This is very much a matter for the BCCI. But unfortunately, it's not in their hands either. We don't have that issue in Pakistan," he said.

Mani also said he has so far not met Ganguly, though they have spoken on the phone a couple of times and attended virtual ICC meetings together.

On the issue of organising the IPL in the UAE in the times of Covid-19 pandemic, Mani felt it was "very much for the BCCI" to decide.

"I would have thought that every IPL team served self-isolation in India before going to the UAE and went into self-isolation there as well, so that they were sure that they did not slip. But I don't know what the BCCI has done and what the requirements are. I can't really comment on that," he averred.

"I can tell you that when we went to England recently, those who returned positive Covid results were not allowed to travel," Mani pointed out, referring to the Pakistani team's bilateral Test and T20 series in England.

All eight IPL teams are now in the UAE. But there was a big scare when 13 players/personnel of the Chennai Super Kings tested positive for Covid-19 recently. Since then things have calmed down with the match schedule being announced.

Does Mani think the pandemic would impact IPL? "There are two aspects. First was that it was very natural as a player to face something that you fear. And you can't force anyone to anything. Then, the viability factor will be another challenge that some countries and teams will face (due to the pandemic). With the IPL, it is their call on how they cope with it. It's not an easy situation. It needs the support of the BCCI, the Emirates Cricket Board, and also they have to follow the guidelines of the UAE government on this. This will change from day to day," he said, looking into the future.

Mani, a former left-arm pacer, felt it was "impossible to suggest" when the pandemic would end. "We have different types of issues in different countries. Among the cricket playing countries, New Zealand has been the best with a very low number of cases. My concern at the moment is the sub-continent. In Pakistan, it is largely under control. But India has the biggest rise in world cricket and there is a big spike there. So, it will be impossible to resume cricket in the short term. That is a big concern. No doubt that till December-January it would be a big challenge for all the cricket boards," he said.

https://gulfnews.com/sport/cricket/...elations-normalise-ehsan-mani-1.1599987514210
 
It's cricket that is the loser, that is the only shame, but that's not in Pakistan's hands. Even the short sighted Indians realised the fallacy of the Big 3 experiment, perhaps one day they will realise they are nothing without the game.
 
New Delhi: Discussions on resuming bilateral cricket exchanges between India and Pakistan cannot start between the boards unless political relations between the two countries become normal and stable, Pakistan Cricket Board (PCB) chairman Ehsan Mani has said. He also made it clear that he wouldn't request Board of Control for Cricket in India (BCCI) President Sourav Ganguly to let Pakistani players compete in the Indian Premier League (IPL).

"Over the years, the PCB has had a number of discussions with the BCCI regarding bilateral cricket. Whether it is T20 cricket or bilateral, all things are in the hands of the BCCI. At this moment I don't have any intention of playing any T20 league with India. First, they have to sort out the bilateral (political) relations with us, and then we will talk," Mani, 75, told IANS in an exclusive interview.

India have not played a Test series in Pakistan for more than 14 years, and Pakistan have not visited India for almost eight years, though they have played against each other in the International Cricket Council's (ICC) events like the World Cup and the Champions Trophy all these years.


And the only time Pakistani players appeared in the IPL was in its opening edition in 2008, when 11 cricketers represented various franchises. Left-arm speedster Sohail Tavir won the Purple Cup for capturing most wickets -- 22 wickets in the 11 matches -- for champions Rajasthan Royals.

"I am not talking to the BCCI about bilateral cricket. It is up to them to speak to us if they have something to say. The ICC (International Cricket Council) constitution says there should be no government interference. So, I think ICC should be talking to them [BCCI]," Mani, a former ICC president, said, referring to the mandatory permission that BCCI has to take from the Indian government to play against Pakistan.

Mani, however, fondly recalled the harmonious relations between the BCCI and the PCB in 1990s, when he, as the PCB representative, interacted with Madhavrao Scindia and Jagmohan Dalmiya who ruled both the BCCI and the Asian Cricket Council.

"I had enough discussions with Mr Dalmiya; not just him but with Mr Sharad Pawar and going back to the time of Mr Madhavrao Scindia. We have had very, very good and open relations with the BCCI. Over the last 12 years, I find the relationship is not what it used to be. There has to be trust and openness on both sides -- and honesty in dealing with each other," he emphasised.

"To find that the relationship was not what it used to be, I was surprised and disappointed when I came back (as PCB chairman in August 2018). A lot of improvement can be done on this. We could talk to anybody (in normal times), but it takes two hands to clap," Mani, a Fellow of the Institute of Chartered Accountants (England & Wales), said.

The 13th edition of the IPL is set to start on September 19 in the United Arab Emirates (UAE). Like in previous years, no Pakistani player will be part of it, though several Pakistanis have from time to time expressed their desire to play in the world's most lucrative cricket tournament.

Has Mani broached this issue with any of the BCCI officials since taking over as PCB chairman? "No, not at all. This is very much a matter for the BCCI. But unfortunately, it's not in their hands either. We don't have that issue in Pakistan," he said.

Mani also said he has so far not met Ganguly, though they have spoken on the phone a couple of times and attended virtual ICC meetings together.

On the issue of organising the IPL in the UAE in the times of Covid-19 pandemic, Mani felt it was "very much for the BCCI" to decide.

"I would have thought that every IPL team served self-isolation in India before going to the UAE and went into self-isolation there as well, so that they were sure that they did not slip. But I don't know what the BCCI has done and what the requirements are. I can't really comment on that," he averred.

"I can tell you that when we went to England recently, those who returned positive Covid results were not allowed to travel," Mani pointed out, referring to the Pakistani team's bilateral Test and T20 series in England.

All eight IPL teams are now in the UAE. But there was a big scare when 13 players/personnel of the Chennai Super Kings tested positive for Covid-19 recently. Since then things have calmed down with the match schedule being announced.

Does Mani think the pandemic would impact IPL? "There are two aspects. First was that it was very natural as a player to face something that you fear. And you can't force anyone to anything. Then, the viability factor will be another challenge that some countries and teams will face (due to the pandemic). With the IPL, it is their call on how they cope with it. It's not an easy situation. It needs the support of the BCCI, the Emirates Cricket Board, and also they have to follow the guidelines of the UAE government on this. This will change from day to day," he said, looking into the future.

Mani, a former left-arm pacer, felt it was "impossible to suggest" when the pandemic would end. "We have different types of issues in different countries. Among the cricket playing countries, New Zealand has been the best with a very low number of cases. My concern at the moment is the sub-continent. In Pakistan, it is largely under control. But India has the biggest rise in world cricket and there is a big spike there. So, it will be impossible to resume cricket in the short term. That is a big concern. No doubt that till December-January it would be a big challenge for all the cricket boards," he said.

https://gulfnews.com/sport/cricket/...elations-normalise-ehsan-mani-1.1599987514210

Isn't this the case of asking indirectly? Why keep on ringing the same bell again and again...the Boat has already sailed..

Noway Pakistani players are going to feature in IPL for some times to come..

I know it's unfortunate nd not ideal.. but it is what it is.. it's not an ideal world we live in.
 
It's cricket that is the loser, that is the only shame, but that's not in Pakistan's hands. Even the short sighted Indians realised the fallacy of the Big 3 experiment, perhaps one day they will realise they are nothing without the game.

Cricket is the loser? How?

Covid19 eh? Then yes cricket has lost much already.. every Cricket board has been impacted by severe financial crisis
 
Isn't this the case of asking indirectly? Why keep on ringing the same bell again and again...the Boat has already sailed..

Noway Pakistani players are going to feature in IPL for some times to come..

I know it's unfortunate nd not ideal.. but it is what it is.. it's not an ideal world we live in.

Even if bilateral cricket resume, pakistanis in IPL may not happen.
 
What is the govt interference mani is talking about?

Aus and Eng didnt play in Zim during the mugabe regime.

Many muslim countries wont play Israel.

These are not govt interference in the functioning of the board. These are govt policies and constitutional requirements. They wont be overturned.
 
Why does PCB even mention BCCI?.Pakistan should never play cricket with India again.Pakistan cricket dies not need India.It can play with the rest of ICC members.
 
Poor relations between the Governments.

Poor relations between the Boards.

No chance of India v Pakistan...move on.
 
Imagine a scenario where direct attacks have been conducted on foreign cricket players, hosting international cricket is universally blacked out, top players involved in controversy and sentenced under criminal laws.

These were the worst of time for Pakistan cricket ever together with country going downhill economically and widely regarded as "dangerous".

Pakistan cricket has survived these worst of times. If PCB can survive that then surviving without the playing India should not be an issue.
 
Imagine a scenario where direct attacks have been conducted on foreign cricket players, hosting international cricket is universally blacked out, top players involved in controversy and sentenced under criminal laws.

These were the worst of time for Pakistan cricket ever together with country going downhill economically and widely regarded as "dangerous".

Pakistan cricket has survived these worst of times. If PCB can survive that then surviving without the playing India should not be an issue.

This melodrama doesn’t help anyone.

No cricket country would go extinct in these circumstances. It is not as if teams stopped playing Pakistan altogether.

The only thing that changed was the venue and a few players were banned.

Pakistan did not perform any miracle by surviving these times. However, if we want to think along these lines to feel better about ourselves, I guess it is fine.
 
Not playing bilateral cricket with India has been the best thing that has happened to Pakistan cricket in this decade.

Getting humiliated at the hands of India every year would have been too much.

Pakistan vs India in this era would be as competitive as Sri Lanka vs India has been.
 
Imagine a scenario where direct attacks have been conducted on foreign cricket players, hosting international cricket is universally blacked out, top players involved in controversy and sentenced under criminal laws.

These were the worst of time for Pakistan cricket ever together with country going downhill economically and widely regarded as "dangerous".

Pakistan cricket has survived these worst of times. If PCB can survive that then surviving without the playing India should not be an issue.

And they are still abundantly blessed with good wealth, and a very good global image is starting to develop through the PSL. The league with the best bowling standards.
 
Cricket is the loser? How?

Covid19 eh? Then yes cricket has lost much already.. every Cricket board has been impacted by severe financial crisis

Cricket matches between India and Pakistan always got a lot of attention from the rest of the cricket world due to the history of war between the two countries. In Britain especially tickets for world cup games between the two nations were like gold dust pre-Covid.

I realise that these games will still be played because the hypocritical Indians don't want to forfeit ICC tournaments, but even on a wider scale, when you only have 6 or 7 major nations playing the sport, obviously if one set of fixtures is ruled out, the game is losing something.
 
And they are still abundantly blessed with good wealth, and a very good global image is starting to develop through the PSL. The league with the best bowling standards.
A league where kamran akmal keeps topping the chart cannot be best bowling no matter how many times you say it
 
A league where kamran akmal keeps topping the chart cannot be best bowling no matter how many times you say it

You dont seem to pose the accolades of a poster who would produce an ill informed comment like that. Babar Azam was the top scorer in 2020. KL Rahul has been topping the IPL charts and Rishab Pant has also been right up there, we all know what happens to these blokes outside India or when the going gets tough.
 
India vs Pakistan cricket is dead except World cups and we should all make peace with this fact.
 
Not playing bilateral cricket with India has been the best thing that has happened to Pakistan cricket in this decade.

Getting humiliated at the hands of India every year would have been too much.

Pakistan vs India in this era would be as competitive as Sri Lanka vs India has been.

Indians have lost out on a golden opportunity to turn the overall Head to Head record in their favor.
 
The Board of Control for Cricket in India (BCCI) has won the battle against the Pakistan Cricket Board (PCB) as its lawyers convinced the ICC that the reason behind the Indian eves not playing Pakistan in their ODI Championship round was clearly a case of not getting necessary permission from the government.

Speaking to IANS, a BCCI official said that the lawyers representing the Indian board put out the true picture and the international body understood the scenario.

“Our lawyers explained to the ICC that for every tournament, we take the permission of the government and it isn’t just about playing Pakistan. So, if we don’t get clearance from the government, how can we play them? It was just about explaining the scenario,” the official said.

With this the technical committee of the ICC decided decided that teams will share points in all three series in the ICC Women’s Championship that did not take place during the competition window and that saw India on Wednesday qualify for the 2021 Women’s World Cup.

The India-Pakistan series was originally scheduled in the sixth round of the competition, between July and November 2019, but despite the best efforts of both the boards, it was unable to take place, ICC said in a statement.

“With respect to the India vs Pakistan series, the TC concluded that the series could not be played because of a Force Majeure event after the BCCI demonstrated that it was unable to obtain the necessary government clearances to allow India to participate in the bilateral series against Pakistan, which forms a part of the ICC Women’s Championship,” the media statement read.

Interestingly, PCB chief Ehsan Mani on Tuesday made it clear that the Pakistan Cricket Board doesn’t need the BCCI to join hands with them.

“We have suffered losses but they (India) are not in our thinking or planning. It is like a Pie in the Sky situation. We have to live without them and we don’t need them to survive,” he said in a podcast released by the PCB’s media department.

“I am clear if India doesn’t want to play we have to plan without them. Once or twice they have made promises to play against us but pulled out at the last moment.”

https://www.hindustantimes.com/cric...ci-official/story-iiAVwy8VAq3vSUeQxpisoK.html

Does the Government Interference Clause that the ICC likes to use apply to this situation?
 
You dont seem to pose the accolades of a poster who would produce an ill informed comment like that. Babar Azam was the top scorer in 2020. KL Rahul has been topping the IPL charts and Rishab Pant has also been right up there, we all know what happens to these blokes outside India or when the going gets tough.


KL Rahul averages 46 @ 147 in T20Is. Has two T20I hundreds (against England in England) and West Indies in Florida. So, both outside India.

Both KL and Pant never topped the batting charts like Sir Kamran did. Pant came the closest in 2018 (2nd) , the same year where he got two Test hundreds in England and Australia. So, again.... outside India.

Don't know what KL and Pant did to deserve a comparison with Sir Kamran Akmal of all people. :)
 
India vs Pakistan cricket is dead except World cups and we should all make peace with this fact.

I think most have made peace with it. One has to remember cricket is not a popular sport outside of the subcontinent, so for the rest of the world it doesn't really matter. Other sports will grow in Pakistan so while I still expect cricket to remain popular, I am not sure it will ever regain what it was in the 80's and 90's.
 
I think most have made peace with it. One has to remember cricket is not a popular sport outside of the subcontinent, so for the rest of the world it doesn't really matter. Other sports will grow in Pakistan so while I still expect cricket to remain popular, I am not sure it will ever regain what it was in the 80's and 90's.

Yes, to be honest cricket has lost that charm. It's not the same anymore even outside India vs Pakistan. I complain less now. We don't deserve this. Both nations have maintained quite atrocious relationships and I have noticed cricket encounters now actually bring the worst in us be it the poor promos, third grade banter to purely bigoted comments.
 
It's probably a good thing Pakistan isn't playing India on a regular basis these days. The number of defeats could have been very concerning.

A harsh reality.
 
As an Indian fan, I hardly give a toss about meaningless record. For me, World Cup is all it matters.

By your logic team ranking and players' ranking should be based on World Cup only.

Top 5 team
1. Australia
2. WI
3. India
4. Pakistan
5. England

Also Prasad/Prabhakar are better bowler than Waqar.
 
By your logic team ranking and players' ranking should be based on World Cup only.

Top 5 team
1. Australia
2. WI
3. India
4. Pakistan
5. England

Also Prasad/Prabhakar are better bowler than Waqar.

Rankings are meaningless too! On a given day and time any team can thump and be crown champions.

I’m sorry if my view offended you! You see I don’t give a toss about kitply’s and cola cola cups. Heck I don’t even care about Asia cup!

World Cups
WT20
Is all matters to me. Rest of the games is just a ground for experimentation for building teams for worldcup.
 
By your logic team ranking and players' ranking should be based on World Cup only.

Top 5 team
1. Australia
2. WI
3. India
4. Pakistan
5. England

Also Prasad/Prabhakar are better bowler than Waqar.

Actually, India would be above WI. Both have the same number of wins and final appearences. However, India has made it to the 3 more SFs and has a better WC.

However, that’s an overall a ridiculous comment. The particular poster might care more for WCs, as most of us do. But I am sure that no one considers Prasad greater than Waqar.
 
ISLAMABAD: Terming the forthcoming home series against Zimbabwe as another positive step towards the revival of international cricket in the country, Pakistan Cricket Board chairman Ehsan Mani on Thursday said next year will be remarkable for local fans when several top-tier teams would slated to tour Pakistan.

Speaking to a select group of media persons in Islamabad, Mani said England would tour Pakistan in January followed by South Africa and then New Zealand.

“In January 2022, Australia will be touring Pakistan and during the same year we will host the Asia Cup,” the PCB chief added.

“After 2023, the PCB will also host major international events, as all prominent events till 2023 have already been allotted.”

According to Mani, the Zimbabwe players and officials currently touring Pakistan for a limited-overs series are enjoying their stay. “Other visiting teams will be hosted in the same fashion,” he stated.

Speaking about Pakistan’s participation in next year’s T20 World Cup being staged in India, Mani said he had requested the International Cricket Council (ICC) to facilitate visa issuance for Pakistani players.

“We have requested the ICC to take written assurance from the Board of Control for Cricket In India (BCCI) by the month of January that the Pakistan players will not face any visa-related issues for the T20 World Cup,” Mani said and added that in case of denial of the visas on time, the PCB could request the ICC to shift the T20 World Cup from India to any other place.

“We are seeking a written guarantee to avoid visa-related issues for the [2021] T20 World Cup as there have been instances in the past when India denied issuance of visas to Pakistani sports squads at the eleventh hour,” the PCB chairman underlined.

The 2021 T20 World Cup will be held in October-November .

Talking about match-fixing and gambling in cricket, the PCB chief said stricter laws against corrupt players and bookies were needed to curb fraudulent practices.

“We have submitted our draft to the ministry of Inter-provincial Coordination (IPC) for legislation. We hope soon the proposed draft will be presented before the federal cabinet and parliament,” he said.

When asked about salient features of the said draft, he said: “I can’t disclose it. But I would say before finalising the draft, we studied and were guided by the laws of different countries like Sri Lanka and New Zealand.”

To a query regarding Pakistan Super League, the PCB chairman said shifting the entire PSL to Pakistan was a great achievement. “Now PSL has become a successful brand,” Mani said.

He, however, said that the PCB was going to revise the contract with franchises to remove their concerns.

He acknowledged that in audit of PSL-I and II, it transpired that the Board awarded some contracts without calling for bids. “I don’t know why they [PCB] did this, may be due to time constraint, but in some marketing related contracts tenders were not called,” Mani said.

When asked about Pakistan’s new domestic cricket structure, the PCB chairman defended the abolishment of department cricket, saying the new model will produce better results for the game.

“It is likely that by the end of October, an interim committee for all regions will be announced.”

He said former cricketers will be engaged for domestic cricket for coaching and other roles.

“We have introduced a transparent system to help the regions. In the past, the PCB used to send funds directly into the account of regional head, which was a bad practice,” he said and added that the PCB didn’t want to probe previous cases of mismanagement as it wants to keep its focus on moving forward.

But surely, he said, action would be taken on the basis of solid evidences.

To a question regarding international broadcasting rights, Mani said soon the PCB would complete this process.“We have received technical bids from interested companies,” he said and added that this time round, the PCB had separated domestic cricket and international cricket broadcasting rights.

Meanwhile, while talking about the vacant slot of chief selector following Misbah-ul-Haq’s resignation from the post recently to focus on coaching assignment, Mani said that soon this important position would be filled.

https://www.dawn.com/news/1586517/major-teams-slated-to-tour-pakistan-during-2021-mani
 
In a recent interview, Ehsan Mani

"I always made it clear that if they want to play, they will come and play Pakistan. I never said no but I've always maintained that we have our own integrity, our honour. Why should we run behind India? We should not. When they will be ready, only then we will be ready too"
 
In a recent interview, Ehsan Mani

"I always made it clear that if they want to play, they will come and play Pakistan. I never said no but I've always maintained that we have our own integrity, our honour. Why should we run behind India? We should not. When they will be ready, only then we will be ready too"

I agree we shouldn't be chasing after India.
 
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