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We need better players: Shakib al Hasan

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Unlike the previous two occasions that Shakib Al Hasan had attended the press conference during the one-off Test against Afghanistan, there was no smile on the Bangladesh captain’s face yesterday following a humiliating 224-run defeat at the Zahur Ahmed Chowdhury Stadium in Chattogram.

Why not? With rain allowing just 13 balls to be bowled in the first two sessions of the fifth and final day, Bangladesh had just to survive 18.3 overs or 70 minutes with four wickets in hand and, most importantly, with Shakib at the crease.

There were many prayers by local supporters for rain to wash out the entire day’s play, but it seemed that destiny was not to be denied for the deserving winners as the Bangladesh players showed hardly any character, of which there was plenty in the opposition camp, despite Afghanistan playing just their third Test.

It was Shakib’s horrible shot selection, when he went for a cut off the first ball he faced after play resumed and only managed to edge chinaman bowler Zahir Khan, that was the hammer blow for the hosts.

It did not take long for Afghanistan to wrap up the Bangladesh innings. Soumya Sarkar was the only recognised batsman and he became the last wicket to fall as player-of-the-match and Afghan skipper Rashid Khan picked up his 11th wicket of the match, having picked up a five-for in Bangladesh’s first innings.

When dissecting their performance after the match, Shakib was asked how many marks, out of hundred, he would give his team for the performance over the past five days, and his reply was brief and to the point: “Zero’.’

That made one wonder about why a team, after playing Tests for 19 years, would not get even one point from their captain and what that said about the culture of cricket in the country.

“It is definitely hard to accept [the result]. It is very disappointing because we had four wickets and we had to play one hour and ten minutes. It’s difficult to explain about the others’ [dismissals], but I can explain mine. Because I got out off the first ball, that made the situation very difficult for the team. The responsibility is mostly on me. I could have done without playing the cut, as the ball was not there for that shot,” Shakib told reporters when asked how hard it was to accept the result.

Although he was not willing to call the defeat a shameful one, he did say that if Bangladesh really want to improve in Test cricket they need to improve the quality of the players.

“If we want to play more consistently, we need to improve the quality of the players. We need more quality players. Otherwise, we will have to continue banking on conditions and situations favouring us,” he said.

Over the need to improve the domestic structure, there was a bit of needle in the captain’s voice when he said that it should have been looked after from the moment Bangladesh started playing Test cricket 19 years ago and that he is not the one to answer that question.

It is certainly a steep fall from being one of the top contenders to win the man-of-the-tournament award in the recent World Cup to being on the receiving end of a humbling loss. When asked if it was a difficult transition to accept, Shakib said, “I am right where I have always been, after the World Cup and now. Everyone can see it how they choose, that depends on them. I always try to perform. I cannot contribute in every match, that’s normal. And if a player is always selected [and plays well], he should get more match fees [than those who play badly].”

When asked whether he would give his suggestions to the BCB as the leader of the side, Shakib said, “If I don’t have to [lead the side], I think it will be better for my cricket [laughs], on a personal basis. But if I have to lead, of course I need to discuss a lot of things.”

https://www.thedailystar.net/frontpage/news/we-need-better-players-shakib-1798066
 
Deflated Shakib concedes there are plenty of areas Bangladesh need to improve on

Following Bangladesh’s 224-run defeat to Afghanistan, captain Shakib Al Hasan has admitted his side needs to face their shortcomings if they are to get better at the international level. Bangladesh were below par with both bat and ball, firstly allowing Afghanistan to 342 in the first innings and later appearing clueless with the bat, getting bowled out for 205 and 173.

Shakib explained how it wasn’t only the lack of application from his batsmen but the overall areas which Bangladesh need to work on in order to show an upward curve in their graph.

“It’s a combination of both – lack of application from our batsmen and the way they bowled. They deserve this win,” Shakib said after the post-match conference. “After playing for 20 years, we can’t say it’s a build-up process. It’s been a while since we played our last Test match, but Afghanistan kept the pressure on us, credit goes to their hard work. We need to forget this match soon and look forward to the T20I series. They are a very good side in that format, so we need to focus on the series, keeping the World T20 in focus.”

Bangladesh were dented severely by Rashid Khan, who picked up 11 wickets in the match and even scored a half-century in the first innings. Rashid’s 5/55 and 6/49 in both innings crippled the Bangladesh batsmen. Shakib, realising his team’s vulnerability against wristspin explained how it’s one aspect his batsmen need to get better at.

“We have both technical and mental shortcomings. We are not used to playing any kind of wristspin, although we planned and prepared against our legspinners in the nets,” Shakib said during the press conference after the match. “Unless you are successful in the middle, that practice doesn’t work. I don’t think anything was wrong in the approach, but there are problems in our execution, or playing with a big heart.

“When you are fearful, your execution doesn’t quite come off. Liton hits everything well in T20s, but he couldn’t do it in Tests. The coach also said that we should play with a bigger heart. We play with a lot of pressure and fear. At the end of the day, it is a cricket match. But it is not everything. We end up taking so much pressure on ourselves, we make performing harder. And when we can’t perform, the pressure increases.”

Addressing batting woes, Shakib felt the quality of batting has taken a hit drastically. Experienced cricketers like Liton Das, Soumya Sarkar are playing careless shots and getting out, while some cannot get themselves out of the T20 mould.

“We have to find out what is wrong with the player first. I think it is wrong to expect the same medicine to work for everyone. Whether it is because they are playing in the NCL [National Cricket League], or not because of playing in the NCL. It could be both,” he said. “It maybe so that the bowling is so easy to play in the NCL that they end up hitting four or five double-hundreds, but when they come to international cricket, they can’t score four or five runs.”

Bangladesh went into the Test without a single frontline fast bowler and instead banking heavily on their spinners. Mustafizur Rahman was left out and only Sarkar was the closest to a pacer they had with his medium-pace. Shakib admitted it was a tactical blunder which hurt them dearly.

“I said before the Test match that the pace bowlers must deserve a place in the team,” Shakib said. “Interestingly, I was seeing their stats today, and their economy rate is 4.41. If they bowl 90 overs, they will concede 400. We are out of the game on the first day.

“If they bring it down to 2.8 or 2.9 and they have a good strike rate, we can pick them. Just check their stats from their home Tests in the recent past, and you will see what I mean.”

https://www.cricketcountry.com/news...of-areas-bangladesh-need-to-improve-on-889729
 
BCB chief Nazmul: Soumya, Liton are not Test players

Bangladesh Cricket Board president Nazmul Hasan thinks Soumya Sarkar, Liton Das and Sabbir Rahman are not Test players and he does not want them to be Test players either.

He expressed his opinions regarding Bangladesh’s lackluster performance in the lone Test match against Afghanistan when he faced the press Sunday.

“Soumya, Liton and Sabbir are not Test players. We play them in Tests for specific reasons, but in reality they are not Test players. In fact, I don’t want them to be Test players,” BCB boss Nazmul said.

He also praised the Afghans, saying, “If you talk about performance, you must give credit to Afghanistan. They showed proper Test batting, one of them scored a century while others scored 80 to 90 runs.”

BCB boss Nazmul also expressed discontent with the team planning.

He said, “There was a lack of planning. We need to look into it.”

He also expected a sporting wicket, “Where are our pacers? We played them (Afghanistan) in the World Cup on a sporting wicket. We expected the same here.”

BCB supremo Nazmul mentioned the necessity to incorporate new blood in the team, saying, “If we always play with the same team, the new players will not get any chance and there will be no change in the team. In the upcoming tri-nation series, we will see if we can introduce some youngsters.”

https://www.dhakatribune.com/sport/2019/09/08/bcb-chief-nazmul-soumya-liton-are-not-test-players
 
Nazmul Hossain is not a selector. He has zero cricket background. He is a politician (MP) who interferes in selection matters.

This man should let selectors do the job instead of sticking his nose.

Pathetic situation.
 
" Soumya, Liton and Sabbir are not Test players. We play them in Tests for specific reasons,, What special reason, :sifarish" , what else ?
 
Not sure Sarfraz is worse or shakib both captain are giving tough competition to each other.

Then they mock our chairman look at Nazim statement
 
That cut shot by Shakib was absolutely horrible! You don't play that kind of shot when you are trying to save a test.
 
Bangladesh is not the kind of team that has the luxury of saying this. Soumya Sarkar is probably the most talented batsman they have produced in years and that's saying something. He is inconsistent and has a lot of flaws but technically he's a solid batsman who can improve with time. Rather than saying he is not a test batsman try to make him into one.
 
Bangladesh has 8 number of FC teams. The concept is quite similar to what our new structure is like. Less number of team=quality and not much difference between international cricket and domestic cricket. Did it make them worldclass?


I would say to improve cricket and players at national level , you have to create quality at assoication level. The grass root cricket has to be top notch to indentify talent that standouts to be picked for FC junior team then process the talent that becomes good enough for the senior team. If the quality isn't coming, then the system won't work.

It is a good case study for Pakistan before they start new season and Bangladesh also need to find a solution.
 
Nazmul Hossain is not a selector. He has zero cricket background. He is a politician (MP) who interferes in selection matters.

This man should let selectors do the job instead of sticking his nose.

Pathetic situation.

I thought Liton Das was a Test specialist. He played proper cricketing shots against Windies in the WC and the commentators mentioned how his technique suits Test cricket.
So these are poor comments from Nazmul, and why even give statements like these?
 
Bangladesh is not the kind of team that has the luxury of saying this. Soumya Sarkar is probably the most talented batsman they have produced in years and that's saying something. He is inconsistent and has a lot of flaws but technically he's a solid batsman who can improve with time. Rather than saying he is not a test batsman try to make him into one.

What ? He is anything but that. I will say his defence is worse than Fakhar. Soumya should be nowhere near the test side.
 
Bangladesh has 8 number of FC teams. The concept is quite similar to what our new structure is like. Less number of team=quality and not much difference between international cricket and domestic cricket. Did it make them worldclass?


I would say to improve cricket and players at national level , you have to create quality at assoication level. The grass root cricket has to be top notch to indentify talent that standouts to be picked for FC junior team then process the talent that becomes good enough for the senior team. If the quality isn't coming, then the system won't work.

It is a good case study for Pakistan before they start new season and Bangladesh also need to find a solution.

Quality of their talent pool isn't comparable to Pakistan's. Their system has been working better than ours (producing better batsmen) but they do not get enough raw talent to work with, specially fast bowlers. Shakib is right here.
 
Quality of their talent pool isn't comparable to Pakistan's. Their system has been working better than ours (producing better batsmen) but they do not get enough raw talent to work with, specially fast bowlers. Shakib is right here.

What quality you are talking when our U19 team is getting smashed by Afghanistan?

Tell how many U23 batsmen that have done well at domestic cricket in recent years? One or two max
 
What quality you are talking when our U19 team is getting smashed by Afghanistan?

Tell how many U23 batsmen that have done well at domestic cricket in recent years? One or two max

I am talking about natural talent. Our system caters for only a fraction from available talent pool but still our u19 has Naseem Shah, 19 year old Husnain is bowling 150+, why do you think Bangladesh is not producing such bowlers ? Is it because they have 8 domestic teams ?

To produce good batsmen, a lot more is needed than just natural talent, you need a decent system who can polish batsmen at a young age and Bangladesh is doing better in this regard compared to us. My point is that Bangladesh is failing not because of 8 first class teams but because of low quality talent pool.
 
Bangladesh has 8 number of FC teams. The concept is quite similar to what our new structure is like. Less number of team=quality and not much difference between international cricket and domestic cricket. Did it make them worldclass?


I would say to improve cricket and players at national level , you have to create quality at assoication level. The grass root cricket has to be top notch to indentify talent that standouts to be picked for FC junior team then process the talent that becomes good enough for the senior team. If the quality isn't coming, then the system won't work.

It is a good case study for Pakistan before they start new season and Bangladesh also need to find a solution.

The concept isn't the problem, rather that system has brought BD where it is now. May not be gold standard, but this was the only way forward - the system is as perfect in terms of structure that it can happen.

But, developing the game, particularly a game like cricket which needs extensive individual skill is the toughest to master, it needs decades to systematic development. A proper cricket system is prerequisite for that - it's not an option or choice, rather it's the minimum base line, from where you start. BD has one of the best grass root level system in cricket world, which is the result of where we are now - and, that's part of the system as well. Otherwise, cricket was used to be played in Gymkhana ground as back as 1870s.

The concept is same - accumulation of talent scouted from total population base and frame them in to a tier based hierarchy; 6 or 8 teams are just numbers. NBA has 30 teams and still the quality is top notch, because they have that many top quality players. Similarly, in 1970s-1990s, most of the players had similar/inferior County stats than International stats despite having 18 Counties (& 8 International teams), because of the quality there with 4-5 top Internationals in every team coming from across globe. The number of teams are just a function of the player pool available, key is the quality, therefore Shakib is absolute spot on - and I am happy that he decided to talk straight.
 
‘Not much interest’ – Bangladesh Test skipper dislikes Tests, says board chief

Bangladesh cricket chief Nazmul Hassan said Shakib Al Hasan will remain as Test captain despite disliking the format and expressing his reluctance to stay on following this week’s embarrassing defeat to Afghanistan.

Nazmul admitted the all-rounder had shown little interest or enthusiasm for the five-day game — an attitude which would not have been helped by Monday’s 224-run loss to Afghanistan in Chittagong.

“We have noticed he did not have much interest in Test (cricket). You have seen that when we were touring foreign countries, he wanted to have a break during the Tests,” Nazmul told reporters in Dhaka late Wednesday.

“Naturally he might have less interest. But we never heard that he has less interest in captaincy. If he is skipper, then he has to play. If you are not skipper, then you can skip,” he said.

Hassan’s comments came after Shakib said he no longer wanted to lead the side in Tests following the chastening defeat to minnows Afghanistan, who were playing only their third five-day game.

Bangladesh became the first team to lose to 10 different Test sides with the defeat, which followed a lacklustre World Cup and 0-3 one-day whitewash by Sri Lanka in July.

Shakib, who shone at the World Cup with 606 runs and 11 wickets but was skipper for the Sri Lanka tour, said his performances might improve if he relinquished the captaincy.

“It will be best if I didn’t have to lead,” Shakib told reporters after the Afghanistan loss. “I personally believe it will be good for my game.

“And if I have to continue leading, then obviously there is a lot to discuss about (with the board),” he said.

Hassan said he spoke with Shakib on Tuesday after the Afghanistan loss, but that the player did not raise any concerns.

“Our boys are emotional. I will speak with him when things get calm,” he said.

Shakib will now lead Bangladesh in a tri-nation Twenty20 tournament involving Afghanistan and Zimbabwe starting in Dhaka on Friday.

https://www.pakistantoday.com.pk/20...test-skipper-dislikes-tests-says-board-chief/
 
Quality of their talent pool isn't comparable to Pakistan's. Their system has been working better than ours (producing better batsmen) but they do not get enough raw talent to work with, specially fast bowlers. Shakib is right here.

What quality you are talking when our U19 team is getting smashed by Afghanistan?

Tell how many U23 batsmen that have done well at domestic cricket in recent years? One or two max

It’s also about the format , India and Pakistan have history of test series and test players to look upto, during the age when test cricket was popular, these same coaches and academies setup grass root level coaching for test cricket.

BD found its success in ODI format and their heroes as well, thats why it will take them a long time to be a good test team esp in current era when kids don’t really care..
 
It’s also about the format , India and Pakistan have history of test series and test players to look upto, during the age when test cricket was popular, these same coaches and academies setup grass root level coaching for test cricket.

BD found its success in ODI format and their heroes as well, thats why it will take them a long time to be a good test team esp in current era when kids don’t really care..

That is true but apart from maybe Shakib, BD has hardly produced any world beater in LOIs.

Cricketing teams initially need prodigious young talented players, even one or two are enough who can win some matches on their own and whole team can rally behind them. This in turns inspires a generation of cricketers who with the a decent functional cricketing system can form a competitive side for all formats.
Srilanka managed to do that in 90s but somehow BD has failed to produce any inspirational, naturally gifted player and hence are still struggling.
 
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