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"We should have adapted to the conditions quicker" : Steven O'Keefe

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O'Keefe: We didn't adapt quickly enough

Australia spinner Steve O'Keefe had a tough introduction to Test cricket, making his debut against Pakistan recently, but said he learned a lot from the experience even though he didn't adapt to conditions.

O'Keefe played in the first Test in Dubai and took four wickets, but he was expensive and was dropped for the second game in Abu Dhabi. The Aussies lost both games comprehensively, and he felt they didn't adjust well enough.

O'Keefe said of the UAE conditions: "In 170 overs in the field you get a lot of time for reflection. I think over there you've really got to learn to adapt to the way they bowl.

"Some of the things you can learn at home don't necessarily translate into the way they perform over there.

"You can't really kick the dirt with that, you've got to adapt to those conditions, and unfortunately we did that too slowly I think. Personally I know if I had that time again there's a few things I'd change with my bowling.

"For me the biggest thing is being able to adapt to the conditions and the players you're playing against - that'll change every time you play cricket."

He went on to say that they'd looked at Zulfiqur Babar's bowling quite a bit, and he felt he could learn from the Pakistan spinner, who dominated the Aussie batsmen in both Tests.

O'Keefe added: "He does things that we're traditionally taught not to. He doesn't finish off with his front bowling arm past his hip, he does it to the other side and he bowls a lot of square spin.

"In Australia we're taught to try to get over the top of the ball and bounce it, however that was more effective sliding it on, and we saw how many guys that we had getting out lbw or bowled missing balls that were going straight and not spinning with the odd one turning.

"So that's about adjusting to the conditions and you can really learn a lot from someone like him who's played a lot of first-class cricket.

"As a bowler I'm going to take a lot out of that and I'm sure the batters who didn't have as much success as they'd have liked will also learn from it."

The spinner also said that the Pakistan batsmen swept the ball a lot more than they would Down Under, and that took a lot to get used to.

He said: "They'd sweep two or three times an over and the ball you bowl in the same position on a good length they can run down the wicket and hit you over your head, block and sweep.

"Very rarely did they miss a sweep shot, and in Australian conditions you very rarely come up against guys who sweep at all. So that took some adjusting to, we could have adjusted a bit quicker I think, myself and Nathan, but they took the game to us."

http://www.cricket365.com/australia/story/9551926/O-Keefe-We-didn-t-adapt-quickly-enough
 
"In 170 overs in the field you get a lot of time for reflection"

:D You got that right Bro!

Very tough introduction to the world of Test Cricket
 
If he can't take wickets in Asia as a spinner he should go back to the domestic stuff until he gets better.

It's disappointing, because this guy has been hyped on Aussie forums for a while now.
 
If he can't take wickets in Asia as a spinner he should go back to the domestic stuff until he gets better.

It's disappointing, because this guy has been hyped on Aussie forums for a while now.

Maybe those hyping him hadn't seen him bowl....he doesn't spin it.
 
Maybe those hyping him hadn't seen him bowl....he doesn't spin it.

Yeah. People here thought I was joking when I was talking about how he doesn't turn it both ways.

He gets his wickets through subtle variations and by tricking batsman into think he spins it more than he does.
 
If he can't take wickets in Asia as a spinner he should go back to the domestic stuff until he gets better.

It's disappointing, because this guy has been hyped on Aussie forums for a while now.

Which Aussie forums? I confess I don't frequent much Aussie forums...I find them overly jingoistic and full of people that overrate the team.
 
There are far more people who talk about shield players than there are people who actually see these guys play.

O'Keefe is a better player than what he showed and he'd do better in Australia over Asia. He's also better than the likes of Doherty.

I knew Misbah and Younis would have no problems with him at all. Wasn't so sure about some of the others because many have a history of getting themselves out.

But they batted sensibly and it didn't.

He still bowled better than Lyon and shouldn't have been dropped
 
If he can't take wickets in Asia as a spinner he should go back to the domestic stuff until he gets better.

It's disappointing, because this guy has been hyped on Aussie forums for a while now.

He'll probably do better than most Asian spinners on Australian tracks though. Same goes for Lyon. These guys rely on bounce, which is not present in Asia.
 
Which Aussie forums? I confess I don't frequent much Aussie forums...I find them overly jingoistic and full of people that overrate the team.

I don't think I'm allowed to state their names, but I follow three of them, all with active cricket sub-forums. Every single time Australia has been smashed in India/England/elsewhere this O' Keefe has been brandied about as some sort of saviour, and here he was.
 
Australia spinner Steve O'Keefe has called time on his red-ball career, almost 15 years since his first-class debut in November 2005.

With 16 scalps in five games, O'Keefe was the leading wicket-taker among spinners in the 2019-20 Sheffield Shield. He had also captained his side in 2011 and 2013.

The 35-year-old expressed disappointment over being overlooked for a new New South Wales contract. "I was disappointed when I was told that I wasn't getting a contract but I respect and accept the decision, so I have decided to retire from first-class cricket," O’Keefe said in a statement on Sunday, 5 April.

"It's been such a privilege to play for my country and captain my state, but above everything else, I'm most proud to have played alongside some of the best blokes I’ve ever met. When I think about my time playing cricket, that’s what I’ll miss most," he added.

O'Keefe will be available to play for the Sydney Sixers in the Big Bash League. The left-arm spinner finishes his Shield career with 224 wickets at 25.01 to his name.

He also represented Australia in nine Tests and seven T20Is. One of the highs of his red-ball career was when he returned brilliant match-figures of 12/70 against India in 2017, helping Australia set up a memorable Test win over in Pune.

He returned 6/35 in each innings of the Test, the best figures by a visiting spinner in a Test in India. Overall, he accounted for 35 Test wickets.

https://www.icc-cricket.com/news/1652626
 
had a really good record for a spinner in austrlian first class cricket, lyon killed off his international career but from what i remember he wasnt that bad.
 
I think it was [MENTION=132373]Convict[/MENTION] who observed that he had a stock ball which didn’t turn away from the right-hander, as well as an arm-ball which didn’t turn into the right-hander.

Lovely variations of flight and angle, but no actual spin.
 
The hero of Pune calls it a day with regards to his red ball career.
That is the only Test India have lost at home in the last 7 years and counting.
https://www.espncricinfo.com/series...india-vs-australia-1st-test-ind-v-aus-2016-17

I remember Dean Jones presenting him his cap against Pakistan in the UAE Test series of 2014.
Shane Warne wasn't particularly a big fan of him, it must be said.

Another thing I remember about SOK was his stubborn resistance in the opening Test of the series in Sri Lanka in 2016. 97 dot balls out of 98 in an unsuccessful attempt to save the Test in the final innings of the game. https://www.espncricinfo.com/series...lia-1st-test-australia-tour-of-sri-lanka-2016
 
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