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"We won back our fans, gained respect and got our dignity back as a cricket nation" : Misbah-ul-Haq

Speaking to Saj for Wisden in a recent interview, former Pakistan captain and Head Coach Misbah-ul-Haq who has always divided opinions amongst Pakistan fans, reflected on re-building his country's cricketing reputation after the spot-fixing saga, Mohali 2011, the 2007 T20 World Cup, and the highs and lows from an extraordinary career.

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I always had a passion for cricket and in my mind, cricket was always the first choice as a profession. I was also into other sports such as hockey, football, table-tennis, badminton and squash throughout my school and college days, but a career in cricket was the thing that I really wanted. My parents were teachers and therefore education was important to us as a family. They always wanted me to have a good education to fall back upon, rather than just have cricket as my only choice and then nothing else if things didn’t work out in my cricket career. Up until my post-graduation, I had to balance education and cricket, but once I completed my studies it was time to make a decision about my choice of profession and I didn’t have much hesitation in choosing cricket.

The 2007 Twenty20 World Cup final against India in Johannesburg was a huge occasion in terms of the development of cricket and the twenty-over format and missing out on victory when I got so close to taking the team to victory hurt a lot. Maybe I could have done things differently, maybe I could have played a different shot, but at that time I thought that was my best shot and the shot I was confident in playing and the shot that I thought could take us toward the target. But, once something is gone, it’s not good to live in the past and keep on thinking about what ifs. You can have many regrets, you can have afterthoughts, but it’s better to move on and that’s what I did in my life.

I was always a student of the game, someone who liked to look beyond the basics of cricket and I was somebody who thought about the game very deeply. Right from a young age, I enjoyed watching as much cricket as I could, watching what players were doing, their mindset, their preparation and took great pleasure in analysing every detail and aspect of the game. This wasn’t just about watching the great players that I played with or against, it was about learning from domestic team-mates, and the guys who you play club cricket with and the people who don’t always make it to the highest level of the profession. I found that I could sometimes learn more from the guys who didn’t play at the highest level than the players who were playing at the top level. This continued right throughout my playing career as I was always someone who believed that learning in life and in cricket never stops. This really helped me when I became captain of my country and has also helped me since I became a coach.

Honestly speaking, I never thought I would captain Pakistan or become the Head Coach one day. Once I was playing cricket my whole focus was on the sheer enjoyment of playing the game, living with an immense passion for cricket, and ensuring that I performed as a player. But looking back now, whatever came to me was a part of my cricketing journey. There were no plans from my side to captain Pakistan one day or a craving to lead the national team. You dream about leading your country and you want to be at the top of your profession, but I never even thought that I would be captain or Head Coach of Pakistan during my career. The captaincy opportunity literally just came out of the blue and I took it with both hands.

I had been dropped from the Pakistan Test side and then to suddenly be asked to captain the team in 2010 was tough. My performances had dipped, I was out of form, I had gone through a rough patch in my career and I was going through a lot of self-assessment at that time in my life. I was under a lot of mental pressure and at that time I knew I had to come back strongly and prove my doubters wrong. I knew that I had to work doubly hard, and the most important thing was that I made a strong comeback, performed well and worked harder. It was the turning point in my cricket career and once I was appointed skipper, cricket gave me a lot of success in my career.

After the spot-fixing saga, Pakistan cricket needed a lift and some stability. I was blessed and I am really happy that whatever challenges were thrown my way as a captain and my team’s way, we met them head-on. At a pivotal moment in Pakistan cricket and a critical period, we won back our fans, we gained respect, we got our dignity back as a cricket nation, we won over the people that we had lost during that dark time for Pakistan cricket, we were back in the hearts of cricket-lovers, we won back the glory for Pakistan cricket and that was really satisfying. It was a great and very important turnaround. We performed well as a team, but whilst I received a lot of praise for leading the team and the group and representing Pakistan cricket in that era, there were many stars in various formats like Saeed Ajmal, Abdul Rehman, Younis Khan, Umar Gul, Mohammad Hafeez, Asad Shafiq, Azhar Ali, Sarfaraz Ahmed, Shahid Afridi, Junaid Khan and Ahmed Shehzad who performed really well and 5 or 6 years later some of the aforementioned players took us to the position of the number-one ranked Test side. I was lucky to be captain of that group during that period, but it wasn’t just about me, it was about much bigger things, the whole team, the whole group and the future of Pakistan cricket.

It’s always easy to criticise from outside as you see things differently and of course everyone is entitled to their own opinion. But I knew the conditions out there in Mohali during that 2011 World Cup semi-final against India. That surface was a difficult pitch once the ball got older. Even during the Indian innings, they made a flying start and then when the ball got older there was reverse-swing, spin, the ball was stopping and it was difficult for batting. People criticised me for not rotating the strike, scoring quicker than I did, but they failed to understand that even a batsman of Sachin Tendulkar’s class struggled on that surface and found it difficult to score runs that day. We made a good start but after 15 overs it became more and more difficult to score runs. Having said that, I could have done better, as a team we could have done better. As a batsman it was my job to win the game for Pakistan and I didn’t do that and neither did any of my team-mates. I was really disappointed, the fans were disappointed, but having said that we can’t do much about it now.

Being the skipper who has the most Test victories for Pakistan and the captain when we were the number-one ranked Test side were great achievements and something I will cherish for all of my life. It was an honour to be a part of those achievements and accomplishments. To be presented with the Test mace only a few years after the events which dragged Pakistan cricket down was almost miraculous and a huge turnaround. It’s always nice to remember the great moments of your career and those times which brought smiles to the faces of our fans and the nation. Whilst I received praise for my role in those achievements, there was a lot of hard work put in by a lot of people on and off the pitch and they too deserve a lot of credit.

I came up against some tough opponents throughout my career. Sometimes your form didn’t help, sometimes conditions made things tougher than they should have been. But the toughest group of bowlers that I came up against was the Australian quartet of Glenn McGrath, Jason Gillespie, Brett Lee and Shane Warne. They had everything that a captain could want from his bowlers, they made it so tough to score runs against them and you had to work hard and earn every run scored. There were no freebies or easy runs and even in our own conditions it was really tough to face them. As well as that great Australian quartet, Dale Steyn, James Anderson and Stuart Broad were very difficult opponents and masters of their trade. On the other hand, I was relieved that I didn’t have to face Wasim Akram, Waqar Younis and Shoaib Akhtar as an opponent, as facing them in practice was tough enough.

One match that stands out for me is the Lord’s Test match of 2016. Scoring a century in my first appearance at the home of cricket, and at the same place where Pakistan cricket was shamed in 2010 felt really good. For the Pakistan team, coming back to Lord’s, doing so well after what happened there previously and to win the Test match was just something that was simply incredible and will always be dear to my heart. They were special days, and a time and ground that will always remain dear to me and to Pakistan cricket.

Another match that will always be special to me will be mine and Younis Khan’s last ever match for Pakistan when we won a Test series for the first time in the Caribbean. That match was incredible and the way it ended was just amazing. It seemed that we were destined to end our careers with a draw but then the dramatic twist came from Yasir Shah and we won the match. The guard of honour, the victory celebrations, the sheer joy and ending my career at the same time as Younis Khan with a historic win, they were wonderful moments.

I always wanted to not just score a solitary One-day hundred, but lots of them. Looking at the numbers, I think I’d rather take them as they are, by holding the record for the most One-day runs without making a hundred, rather than just having scored a single One-day century. In a strange way I’d rather hold this unique record than just a single century. Ideally, I would have liked to have made 11 or 12 centuries in the 50-over format but it wasn’t to be. I came close a few times and I should have done it, but it was just one of those things that wasn’t written in my destiny.

I more often than not went into bat with the team in trouble in Test cricket. But that pressure got the best out of me and I seemed to thrive under that extreme pressure. In those situations, you have to apply yourself even more when your team is struggling than you would if your team is in a comfortable position. I think it came down to my personality and Younis Khan’s personality. Throughout my career and very much like Younis Khan, we thrived under pressure, whether that was in domestic cricket or in international cricket. The teams that we played for depended on us and we were just used to those situations. In fact, it was almost unusual for us to go into bat with the team on top or in control. Those situations helped get the best out of us and helped us perform well for Pakistan and as a batting partnership we got the best out of each other. I was lucky that I had Younis Khan as a batting partner more often than not and he always helped in those difficult situations in how to soak up the pressure and how to counter-attack. We bounced off each other as a batting duo and it was always wonderful to be out there in the middle with him.

Being the Head Coach of the Pakistan Cricket team is one of the toughest jobs out there. Let me tell you, this is much tougher than being out there playing. You can make decisions off the field as a Head Coach, but you cannot support those decisions on the field or prove that those decisions you made were right or wrong out in the middle. While you are a player you can help the team to achieve their goals, but when you are a coach, or selector or a part of the team management, you can only plan and assist in the decision-making, but once that match commences you can just sit and watch how and what the others do. And whatever happens on the field, the coach seems to be the one who gets the most criticism when things go wrong. Advice before a match, guidance before a match, telling the players something before a match is my job, but it seems it’s very easy for people to criticise the coach after what happens on the field, even when things are out of my control.

There is always space for improvement, you always feel when you look back at your playing career that I could have done that better and achieved more in the game. I could have done far better in One-day internationals by scoring hundreds, I could have converted 5 or 6 nineties into hundreds during my Test career. The team could have done better in the 2011 World Cup, that was a bitter pill to swallow, and the 2007 Twenty20 World Cup was tough to take, that could have been two more trophies. Losing the 2010 Twenty20 World Cup semi-final to Australia was a moment that was tough to take especially after scoring 191. You can always look back and think these things could have been improved upon but at the same time I look at my achievements, the respect, the honour and what cricket has given me, what Pakistan has given me, what international cricket has given me, what Pakistan cricket has given me and I am always grateful for all of this. I will also always be grateful to the fans and my team-mates as nothing would have been possible without them. I will always look back at my playing career with great pride, and will always be satisfied with whatever I achieved in the great sport of cricket.
 
Great interview saj. Keep it up. Good work
 
Misbah will always have his critics and haters, but for me he will always be remembered as the man who dragged Pakistan cricket up from its knees when it was in a lot of trouble and receiving a lot of flak.

He became a fantastic ambassador for Pakistan cricket and won the hearts of many who had previously wanted to isolate Pakistan cricket.

He should go down in history as one of Pakistan's cricketing heroes.
 
Thank you for the interview Saj.

Misbah stabilised Pakistan Cricket in arguably its darkest hour. He had a style of his own which was not to everyone’s tastes but objectively he did a very good, solid job.

Misbah was the right man for the right moment and he deserves a strong legacy.
 
Misbah will always have his critics and haters, but for me he will always be remembered as the man who dragged Pakistan cricket up from its knees when it was in a lot of trouble and receiving a lot of flak.

He became a fantastic ambassador for Pakistan cricket and won the hearts of many who had previously wanted to isolate Pakistan cricket.

He should go down in history as one of Pakistan's cricketing heroes.

We are Pakistanis bro, criticizing and hating our national heroes is what we are best at
 
My bro was luck enough to meet him in Bangalore in 2007. He said very soft spoken and modest guy. Those qualities come out when he speaks as well. I feel, he was dignified onthe field, carried himself very well. He got the captaincy at a very tough time, handled it very well, And won matches for pakistan. Was'nt as big a success as coach. Surely an Asian giant and legend. Fantastic interview. Well played Misbah!:misbah3
 
Misbah is the guy who started the trend of personal place in the side and personal stats over the team. His legacy is Azhar Ali
 
never rated him as a player, he was playing his own game

Misbah is the guy who started the trend of personal place in the side and personal stats over the team. His legacy is Azhar Ali

We got lucky that Ramiz Raja knew what it was all about - and he never jumped on the Misbah’s bandwagon.

Otherwise we would still be tolerating Misbah in the board.

He supposedly got pakistan dragged out of trouble?
Not really. IMO, after the fixing saga, everyone got the jolt and was ready to get things in order. Any captain would’ve done the same what Misbah supposedly achieved because the only from that low point was, up.

Folks then talk about his victory record but as we all know - it was primarily because of Saeed Ajmal being at his peak on the rank turners of a UAE pitches.

Misbah hardly had any personal impact of his batting or captaincy bearing many of those wins.

No wonder when Saeed Ajmal lost his potency, Misbah, after his captaincy tenure left Pakistan at # 8 in test ranking (while his fans put him over the moon when by luck Pak got ranked # 1 for a day or two)

Personally, nothing personal against him but as a cricketer, he had cowardice and very selfish approach towards the game and naturally wanted to stay on the back-foot.

And then, instead of giving anything back to Pak cricket, he and Waqar literally choked the life and charm from Pakistan cricket.

Waqar who himself was a horrible captain with extremely bad man management skills, teaming up with Misbah with his cowardice mindset, was a recipe of disaster when we talk about grooming the next generation of young cricketers.

Today, we see the signs of Misbahism all over in our batting culture.

Limited skilled timid batsmen who unconsciously follow the deeply ingrained approach of, block block and block to get into a shell of self imposed pressure, wait for a ball to hit a boundary.

No concept of smartly playing mind games with the bowler - surprise the field setup with an innovating stroke or improvisation to steal singles and doubles.

Almost every batsmen is playing for his spot in the team. That’s Misbah for you.
 
Misbah did a commendable job to gain the respect and dignity back as a cricket nation.

If some would come and argue , Afridi did that already through white ball cricket and through the performance via 2011 WC .. Well Afridi with ball biting, Zulqarain Haider running away, also Pakistan cricket was in the news always for wrong reasons..

Misbah brought that calm sense to lift the team up.. I dont like his style of captaincy or his backing of personal favorite above the team, remember he brought Jamshed from nowhere to play in WC 2015

Right from his days of being captain and coach he was always hesitant to give chance to youngster, If he was the coach still, Wasim jnr , Abdullah Shafique woulnt have got their debuts yet..
he didnt play sarfraz in the WC 2015 for the first few matches and then Sarfi proved ppl wrong that he is more than ready to play at the big stage.


He has a failed rotten theory where enough domestic experience and 30+ yrs of age is needed to represent national side..

He is ok as a test player, not a good captain, not a good coach.. His captaincy was lauded because he was the need of the time when they needed someone who can calm things down on and off the field..
 
Misbah is the guy who started the trend of personal place in the side and personal stats over the team. His legacy is Azhar Ali

Misbah is the guy who brought respect back to Pakistan cricket after it's name and history had been blackened.
 
We got lucky that Ramiz Raja knew what it was all about - and he never jumped on the Misbah’s bandwagon.

Otherwise we would still be tolerating Misbah in the board.

He supposedly got pakistan dragged out of trouble?
Not really. IMO, after the fixing saga, everyone got the jolt and was ready to get things in order. Any captain would’ve done the same what Misbah supposedly achieved because the only from that low point was, up.

Folks then talk about his victory record but as we all know - it was primarily because of Saeed Ajmal being at his peak on the rank turners of a UAE pitches.

Misbah hardly had any personal impact of his batting or captaincy bearing many of those wins.

No wonder when Saeed Ajmal lost his potency, Misbah, after his captaincy tenure left Pakistan at # 8 in test ranking (while his fans put him over the moon when by luck Pak got ranked # 1 for a day or two)

Personally, nothing personal against him but as a cricketer, he had cowardice and very selfish approach towards the game and naturally wanted to stay on the back-foot.

And then, instead of giving anything back to Pak cricket, he and Waqar literally choked the life and charm from Pakistan cricket.

Waqar who himself was a horrible captain with extremely bad man management skills, teaming up with Misbah with his cowardice mindset, was a recipe of disaster when we talk about grooming the next generation of young cricketers.

Today, we see the signs of Misbahism all over in our batting culture.

Limited skilled timid batsmen who unconsciously follow the deeply ingrained approach of, block block and block to get into a shell of self imposed pressure, wait for a ball to hit a boundary.

No concept of smartly playing mind games with the bowler - surprise the field setup with an innovating stroke or improvisation to steal singles and doubles.

Almost every batsmen is playing for his spot in the team. That’s Misbah for you.

sure,

afridi was captain, he did not achieve it..

Infact, afridi even had a falling out with Ijaz butt and retired from odis...
 
Misbah will always have his critics and haters, but for me he will always be remembered as the man who dragged Pakistan cricket up from its knees when it was in a lot of trouble and receiving a lot of flak.

He became a fantastic ambassador for Pakistan cricket and won the hearts of many who had previously wanted to isolate Pakistan cricket.

He should go down in history as one of Pakistan's cricketing heroes.

to top it off, his efforts never went unnoticed by the ICC. When we drew the series with England in 2016, that was an indication that Pakistan had moved on from the 2010 controversy. The way he walked in a very sober manner with the English captain...


He was eventually given the spirit of cricket award for his sportsmanship by ICC in 2016. Now people think spirit of cricket is only related to doing the gimmacks of calling an out batsmen back etc, but its more related to sportsmanship and leadership qualities displayed. These awards have big value in the western part of the world. Many of us Pakistanis dont understand the true meaning of this award
 
never rated him as a player, he was playing his own game

Misbah is the guy who started the trend of personal place in the side and personal stats over the team. His legacy is Azhar Ali

sure,

afridi was captain, he did not achieve it..

Infact, afridi even had a falling out with Ijaz butt and retired from odis...

Because Afridi never acted as a “Yes man, coward” to secure his spot in the team.

He bravely stood up against idiocy of Ijaz Butt, and didn’t care about his personal interest.
The whole nation was behind Afridi and everyone was spitting at Ijaz Butt.
Afridi also went after Waqar Younus who continuously supported Imran Farhat’s unjustified selection. And we all know where Afridi stands today and who even cares to think Imran Farhat.

Afridi had many flaws and many short comings but neither was he a Yes man nor was he a coward.

And no, Afridi may not have achieved anything big but he has inspired millions with his aura, charm and attacking mindset in a sports arena.

IMO, being an IMPACT PLAYER is what truly sets you apart. And the biggest measure to judge an IMPACT PLAYER is to see how many times he has received player of the match award?
Afridi easily leaves Misbah into dust.

And while Misbah could never bravely take an iota of criticism (another signed of a timid cowardice) and rendered philosophies and more philosophies while talking thru his nose, Afridi pulled crowds into the stadiums all over the world, and brought MONEY to the table.
And PCB needed money, a lot more than Misbah’s captaincy.
Afridi left Misbah in dust, once again.
 
Because Afridi never acted as a “Yes man, coward” to secure his spot in the team.

He bravely stood up against idiocy of Ijaz Butt, and didn’t care about his personal interest.
The whole nation was behind Afridi and everyone was spitting at Ijaz Butt.
Afridi also went after Waqar Younus who continuously supported Imran Farhat’s unjustified selection. And we all know where Afridi stands today and who even cares to think Imran Farhat.

Afridi had many flaws and many short comings but neither was he a Yes man nor was he a coward.

And no, Afridi may not have achieved anything big but he has inspired millions with his aura, charm and attacking mindset in a sports arena.

IMO, being an IMPACT PLAYER is what truly sets you apart. And the biggest measure to judge an IMPACT PLAYER is to see how many times he has received player of the match award?
Afridi easily leaves Misbah into dust.

And while Misbah could never bravely take an iota of criticism (another signed of a timid cowardice) and rendered philosophies and more philosophies while talking thru his nose, Afridi pulled crowds into the stadiums all over the world, and brought MONEY to the table.
And PCB needed money, a lot more than Misbah’s captaincy.
Afridi left Misbah in dust, once again.

Reread your argument. That anyone could had done that had they been captain.....

While in reality we had two captains where one of them threw a hissyfit woth the chairman and couldnt emulate what misbah did.

You rest of the post impact etc has nothing to do. Thats just diverting from the point you raised which has been disproved.
 
Reread your argument. That anyone could had done that had they been captain.....

While in reality we had two captains where one of them threw a hissyfit woth the chairman and couldnt emulate what misbah did.

You rest of the post impact etc has nothing to do. Thats just diverting from the point you raised which has been disproved.

You were the one who brought Afridi into it - and no wonder you can’t stand the IMPACT now.

Afridi inspired millions and helped survive and revive cricket in Pakistan - no one went to the stadiums to watch Misbah’s tuk tuk, perhaps including yourself. :D
 
Keep other cricketers out of this thread.

I have had the pleasure of interacting with Misbah and I can tell you that a more humbler cricketer will not be found in this world.
 
You were the one who brought Afridi into it - and no wonder you can’t stand the IMPACT now.

Afridi inspired millions and helped survive and revive cricket in Pakistan - no one went to the stadiums to watch Misbah’s tuk tuk, perhaps including yourself. :D

Again, im repeating myself here.

You said had there any other captain instead of misbah they would had got pakistan out of that situation. I mentioned afridi because he was the one made captain after this spot fixing issue and misbah came aftwrwards, and afridi wasnt able to take pakistan out of the controversies as you applied that anyother captain would had done.

When the whole england thingy happened, no one wanted to watch the uae series against world no.2 team south africa. There was scrutiny over the team and curfew.

This guy lead us with respect and icc awarded him for his sportsman spirit in 2016
 
Misbah will always have his critics and haters, but for me he will always be remembered as the man who dragged Pakistan cricket up from its knees when it was in a lot of trouble and receiving a lot of flak.

He became a fantastic ambassador for Pakistan cricket and won the hearts of many who had previously wanted to isolate Pakistan cricket.

He should go down in history as one of Pakistan's cricketing heroes.
He had his moments.. but I wouldn’t put him in the same category as some of our legends
 
You were the one who brought Afridi into it - and no wonder you can’t stand the IMPACT now.

Afridi inspired millions and helped survive and revive cricket in Pakistan - no one went to the stadiums to watch Misbah’s tuk tuk, perhaps including yourself. :D

Afridi inspired millions -YES! Absolutely true my friend. He inspired million to be wannabe power hitters who try to slog everything with their eyes closed. He's the single reason we didn't have any proper power hitters for the last 10+ years because everyone wants to be like him... hit a six and then out. The guy averages 17 in his strongest format!

How can we ever have any meritocracy when fans like you put mediocre performers on a pedestal and make them national heroes.

Afridi is no doubt the better entertainer but he's no where close to the class of Misbah
 
You were the one who brought Afridi into it - and no wonder you can’t stand the IMPACT now.

Afridi inspired millions and helped survive and revive cricket in Pakistan - no one went to the stadiums to watch Misbah’s tuk tuk, perhaps including yourself. :D

And Afridi walked away from Test captaincy in the middle of a series also didn't he after his team got hammered and he played a club cricket level shot to get out.
 
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Afridi is no doubt the better entertainer but he's no where close to the class of Misbah

Both had their strengths and flaws but as a leader Misbah was way above Afridi.
 
He had his moments.. but I wouldn’t put him in the same category as some of our legends

I don't see anyone comparing him to Imran Khan, Javed Miandad, Inzamam etc
 
He is right, the interest is back from most fans. It feels like this team will go far.
 
We are Pakistanis bro, criticizing and hating our national heroes is what we are best at

When we lost the WC semi-final in Mohali due to his selfishness, that criticism is warranted.

He also went behind Mickey Arthur's back to oust just to get the job himself. The response he got for this and the way he got booted by Ramiz Raja was also warranted.

Does that sound like a national hero to you?
 
The response from most posters here suggests there is contempt for Misbah and there is real hurt in terms of the damage he did to Pakistan cricket.

What we're seeing from Babar's team in the current test match is an important reminder that we still have a long way to go before we can undo all the of the mess that Misbah has brought to this team during his captaincy and brief stint as head coach/selector.
 
There's no middle ground with Misbah with Pakistan fans. Either he's the biggest saint or the biggest villain. My view is Misbah was the right man in 2010 to stop the bleeding.

He's accused of destroying Pakistan's aggressive DNA which is greatly mythologised. A) Throughout our history we've played some very negative cricket. Under Imran, the skipper everyone aspires to be, we drew more Tests than we won. B) The world's media was watching our every step after the spot-fixing scandal, causing Pakistan cricket to become more docile, less confrontational. C) Slow UAE pitches also prevented a more attacking style of play.

We didn't win a Test series between 2006-10 so what legendary team did Misbah supposedly destroy ? Despite what folks say - leading a team to #1 in Test rankings, having never played at home, is one of the great sporting stories.

Misbah is often scapegoated for bigger systemic issues plaguing Pakistan cricket from poor domestic pitches and facilities, neglect of club and school cricket, and lack of investment in coaching.

However, Misbah was an awful judge of talent as captain and coach. It's ironic a calm, anchored personality was so haphazard with selections. We never had a stable white ball team under Misbah. Some of his picks had no right playing international cricket.

I also felt he eschewed the modern trend of formulating data-based plans against opposition. I'm still not over that Manchester Test. He had the 90s-era mindset of debuting unproven kids on a hunch. I didn't appreciate how he manoeuvered himself into the post either.
 
Afridi inspired millions -YES! Absolutely true my friend. He inspired million to be wannabe power hitters who try to slog everything with their eyes closed. He's the single reason we didn't have any proper power hitters for the last 10+ years because everyone wants to be like him... hit a six and then out. The guy averages 17 in his strongest format!

How can we ever have any meritocracy when fans like you put mediocre performers on a pedestal and make them national heroes.

Afridi is no doubt the better entertainer but he's no where close to the class of Misbah

I think in a society that wears its emotions on its sleeve, a reserved character like Misbah is viewed with suspicion. Regardless of the numbers, some just never warmed to his personality rightly or wrongly.

Players like Javed Miandad, Younis Khan, Shahid Afridi, Shoaib Akhtar who rebelled and challenged the establishment, or those who bent it to his will like Imran Khan, are more revered than those who conform like Misbah.

There were times when Misbah did cut loose and ignored his conservative instincts. The 100 off 56 vs Australia was one example. The push-up celebrations at Lord's is another. Maybe more moments like that would've placated his critics.
 
When we lost the WC semi-final in Mohali due to his selfishness, that criticism is warranted.

He also went behind Mickey Arthur's back to oust just to get the job himself. The response he got for this and the way he got booted by Ramiz Raja was also warranted.

Does that sound like a national hero to you?

You have your own take and you like to put a certain spin on things. Please watch replays of Mohali, you will find those who played slower than Misbah and those who threw their wickets away. But instead of criticizing those players you'd rather make them your heroes. You my friend need to reflect on your observation and judgment skills unless you're just trolling and arguing for the sake of it.

For your 2nd point, he did not go behind any ones back. There were 2 other committee members that reviewed MA's performance and came to the conclusion that he should not be persisted with. It was a democratic decision making process unlike now where RR solely runs the show.

Also a person cannot appoint themselves into a job, somebody has to hire them and PCB hired Misbah! So please again, go reflect before you come back with the same broken record that many have tried fixing for you.
 
The response from most posters here suggests there is contempt for Misbah and there is real hurt in terms of the damage he did to Pakistan cricket.

What we're seeing from Babar's team in the current test match is an important reminder that we still have a long way to go before we can undo all the of the mess that Misbah has brought to this team during his captaincy and brief stint as head coach/selector.

Please explain the damage he's done. Why don't you do us all a favour and come up with a new thread comparing the good and bad of Misbah's tenure. Maybe put it in a chart format, it might be easier for you to judge then.
 
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You have your own take and you like to put a certain spin on things. Please watch replays of Mohali, you will find those who played slower than Misbah and those who threw their wickets away. But instead of criticizing those players you'd rather make them your heroes. You my friend need to reflect on your observation and judgment skills unless you're just trolling and arguing for the sake of it.

For your 2nd point, he did not go behind any ones back. There were 2 other committee members that reviewed MA's performance and came to the conclusion that he should not be persisted with. It was a democratic decision making process unlike now where RR solely runs the show.

Also a person cannot appoint themselves into a job, somebody has to hire them and PCB hired Misbah! So please again, go reflect before you come back with the same broken record that many have tried fixing for you.

I watched every ball of the Mohali encounter, commentators and the analysts sitting in the Sky Sports Studio were in disbelief with what they had seen from Misbah.

Nick Knight in the Sky Sports Studio made a reference to his innings which perfectly sums it up "I'm angry by what I've just seen". Misbah showed no intent until the match was beyond Pakistan's reach.

You don't need to be a cricket genius to figure that Misbah was playing for his place in the side. He knew if he took risks, he was going to bottle it and subsequently lose his spot in the team.

You've implied that the likes of Afridi and co are my heroes. You assume wrong, he's not one of my heroes. He was a poor captain and I was happy to see the back of him. Not everyone who disapproves of Misbah is by default an Afridi fan boy.

"Democratic decision" - are you actually for real? Not only was it a conflict of interest but to go out and oust MA merely to serve your self interests makes you anything but dignified. What makes it even worse is the fact that he had no relevant coaching experience and didn't even have the minimum qualifications to be in contention for the role in the first place.

The only broken record I see is your blind following and cheerleading for Misbah.
 
Please explain the damage he's done. Why don't you do us all a favour and come up with a new thread comparing the good and bad of Misbah's tenure. Maybe put it in a chart format, it might be easier for you to judge then.

I'll give you a timeline so you get the picture:

2007 WT20 final - lost the WT20 because he got dismissed by a Policeman, who was possibly the worst bowler I've seen in international cricket.

2011 semi-final - Mohali do I need to say more?

2013 CT - led the side, Pakistan lost all games. Sarfraz led in the next tournament, which was also held in England and won the trophy.

2015 WC - poor showing from his team. His strike rate left much to be desired.

2016 Aussie tour - we witnessed the worst captain to have ever toured Australia. Ian Chappell's damning assessment of his captaincy was the reality check that Misbah fans needed.

2019 - 2021 - worst head coach and chief selector in the history of cricket period.

Not to forget the defensive mindset and how timid Pakistan cricket had become
 
I'll give you a timeline so you get the picture:

2007 WT20 final - lost the WT20 because he got dismissed by a Policeman, who was possibly the worst bowler I've seen in international cricket.

2011 semi-final - Mohali do I need to say more?

2013 CT - led the side, Pakistan lost all games. Sarfraz led in the next tournament, which was also held in England and won the trophy.

2015 WC - poor showing from his team. His strike rate left much to be desired.

2016 Aussie tour - we witnessed the worst captain to have ever toured Australia. Ian Chappell's damning assessment of his captaincy was the reality check that Misbah fans needed.

2019 - 2021 - worst head coach and chief selector in the history of cricket period.

Not to forget the defensive mindset and how timid Pakistan cricket had become

Lol, maybe he was taking his anger out on Pakistan cricket after not being selected for all those years and burning the shirts didn’t go far enough.
 
Fantastic interview.

A cricketer who polarizer his country's fans.
 
Thanks to salman butt
What most shocking is that
U will find more salman butt supporters than misbah supporters
 
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We've gone through the Mohali argument before but since this is a recent interview I will post on this thread too so newer readers know the facts.

I watched every ball of the Mohali encounter, commentators and the analysts sitting in the Sky Sports Studio were in disbelief with what they had seen from Misbah.

Nick Knight in the Sky Sports Studio made a reference to his innings which perfectly sums it up "I'm angry by what I've just seen". Misbah showed no intent until the match was beyond Pakistan's reach.

They're commentators, they're paid to talk and make comments. Misbah was a talking point but so was poor captaincy and shot selections of others. In fact I remember the commentators specifically being baffled for not taking the batting power play. The shot selection was so bad that Afridi the then captain commented after the match that "we played irresponsible shots". If the captain is admitting the collective fault, why are you holding a grudge against a single individual


You don't need to be a cricket genius to figure that Misbah was playing for his place in the side. He knew if he took risks, he was going to bottle it and subsequently lose his spot in the team.

That's just your thinking with no logic supporting it except your personal bias. Your assumption, that he played the way he did only to secure his place in the team, is completely wrong. Misbah DID end up bottling the chase, but guess what... he was playing the very next ODI, there was no security issue.
He played according to the team plan. His and YK's role was to anchor the innings. In fact Misbah was specifically recalled for this reason after our poor showing in ODIs in England the previous year. In that period, we were having a very difficult time chasing any total. The strategy of the team batting around YK and Misbah was evident from the # of power hitters we played in the playing XI - Afridi, Kamran Akmal, Razzaq, Umar Akmal. These are the guys that failed their duties that day. Misbah performed his role and was Pakistan's highest scorer in the WC.


You've implied that the likes of Afridi and co are my heroes. You assume wrong, he's not one of my heroes. He was a poor captain and I was happy to see the back of him. Not everyone who disapproves of Misbah is by default an Afridi fan boy.

could careless about your heroes, just please stop maligning our national ones


"Democratic decision" - are you actually for real? Not only was it a conflict of interest but to go out and oust MA merely to serve your self interests makes you anything but dignified. What makes it even worse is the fact that he had no relevant coaching experience and didn't even have the minimum qualifications to be in contention for the role in the first place.

So was there a committee or not? Quit beating around the bush and repeating general rhetoric. Let's debate niceties if you're game

The only broken record I see is your blind following and cheerleading for Misbah.

I support him because I respect what he's done for Pakistan especially how he's done it with dignity and without showbaazy. His achievements are underrated and some thankless fans don't appreciate them. In another thread you posted that you respect how he carried the team after the spot fixing controversy. If you honestly meant that then start showing that gratitude
 
We've gone through the Mohali argument before but since this is a recent interview I will post on this thread too so newer readers know the facts.



They're commentators, they're paid to talk and make comments. Misbah was a talking point but so was poor captaincy and shot selections of others. In fact I remember the commentators specifically being baffled for not taking the batting power play. The shot selection was so bad that Afridi the then captain commented after the match that "we played irresponsible shots". If the captain is admitting the collective fault, why are you holding a grudge against a single individual




That's just your thinking with no logic supporting it except your personal bias. Your assumption, that he played the way he did only to secure his place in the team, is completely wrong. Misbah DID end up bottling the chase, but guess what... he was playing the very next ODI, there was no security issue.
He played according to the team plan. His and YK's role was to anchor the innings. In fact Misbah was specifically recalled for this reason after our poor showing in ODIs in England the previous year. In that period, we were having a very difficult time chasing any total. The strategy of the team batting around YK and Misbah was evident from the # of power hitters we played in the playing XI - Afridi, Kamran Akmal, Razzaq, Umar Akmal. These are the guys that failed their duties that day. Misbah performed his role and was Pakistan's highest scorer in the WC.




could careless about your heroes, just please stop maligning our national ones




So was there a committee or not? Quit beating around the bush and repeating general rhetoric. Let's debate niceties if you're game



I support him because I respect what he's done for Pakistan especially how he's done it with dignity and without showbaazy. His achievements are underrated and some thankless fans don't appreciate them. In another thread you posted that you respect how he carried the team after the spot fixing controversy. If you honestly meant that then start showing that gratitude

I respect him for how he led the side with dignity after the spot fixing controversy but all the respect he earned was lost from 2013 onwards - refer to my timeline in post 39.

Misbah is not a national hero, this is pure hyperbole from a blind Misbah cheerleader.

The problem is like Major, you support Misbah more than the Pakistan team. At least Major has admitted this and come to terms with it.

Unlike Misbah's loyalists, I place the interests of Pakistan cricket above the interests of any player. It's about time you do as well.
 
Thank god for end of era of Misbah . Everyone has different opinion. We are all fans at the end of the day. PCB management saw Misbah better than all of us. That's why he is not with Pakistan cricket team anymore
 
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Poor Misbah. Always such a victim.

This selfless human if we are to believe had so much going on, he did us all a favour and gave Pakistan cricket the chance to be led by him! He had absolutely nothing to gain from coming back to lead Pakistan (apart from maybe the fact it saved his dead, failure of a career).

He gave us respect back (whatever that means). He led with errm Dignity (not quite sure who didn’t).

This foolish narrative never made any sense then and it doesn’t now.
 
He will always be remembered for destroying Pakistan cricket.
Everything wrong with Pakistan today is misbah's fault.
I will never forgive him for his 2011 semi final innings.
Destroyer of Pakistan cricket this misbah.
 
Not sure what "re-building his country's cricketing reputation after the spot-fixing saga" means - the spot fixers were caught in the act and punished, Misbah had no say or input in this. Pakistan cricket moved on, time healed. Misbah had nothing to do with this and should not be credited for anything here.

His real contribution is complete destruction of Limited Overs cricket in Pakistan - very poor limited overs captain.

His innings in Mohali was the real reason for our loss, he was set and had his eye in but still opted to be extra defensive and not go for the runs. In typical Misbah fashion, left too much to do at the end and could not finish.

We have been doing much better in the minted overs format ever since he has left. his coaching was also a disaster.

But yes, he was a good test match player and captain.
 
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His innings in Mohali was the real reason for our loss, he was set and had his eye in but still opted to be extra defensive and not go for the runs. In typical Misbah fashion, left too much to do at the end and could not finish.

This was Misbah’s formula for success. When the pressure is on and the match is in the balance, choke, block, survive.

When there is almost zero chance of winning, hit a few sixes at the end when it’s too late. The impossible very briefly looks possible. Pressure back on and he gets out.

Statistically at the end of the match in the cricinfo generation, people will look at the post match scorecard and due to those pointless sixes and “oh his strike rate wasn’t THAT bad”.

And on he goes.
 
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This was Misbah’s formula for success. When the pressure is on and the match is in the balance, choke, block, survive.

When there is almost zero chance of winning, hit a few sixes at the end when it’s too late. The impossible very briefly looks possible. Pressure back on and he gets out.

Statistically at the end of the match in the cricinfo generation, people will look at the post match scorecard and due to those pointless sixes and “oh his strike rate wasn’t THAT bad”.

And on he goes.

Did you even watch 2011 WC? If it wasn't for Misbah's tuk tuking, we would've been rolled out for under 200. Just ask team Canada.
 
Did you even watch 2011 WC? If it wasn't for Misbah's tuk tuking, we would've been rolled out for under 200. Just ask team Canada.

I did and I was disgusted by that coward. I always read this rubbish, if it wasn’t for Misbah we’d be out for 200, 150, 50. It started getting more exaggerated every time. This is exactly what was said after the disastrous 2013 Champions Trophy leading all the way to the 2015 World Cup.

Guess what, first series after Misbah retired form ODIs we scored over 300 regularly. 2 years later, we won the Champions Trophy.

This usual baby Misbah sob story carried on for so long it’s sickening
 
I did and I was disgusted by that coward. I always read this rubbish, if it wasn’t for Misbah we’d be out for 200, 150, 50. It started getting more exaggerated every time. This is exactly what was said after the disastrous 2013 Champions Trophy leading all the way to the 2015 World Cup.

Guess what, first series after Misbah retired form ODIs we scored over 300 regularly. 2 years later, we won the Champions Trophy.

This usual baby Misbah sob story carried on for so long it’s sickening

You read it I saw it. Go back from 2011 WC you will see the state we were in. We were failing to complete 50 overs in lile 1/3rd of pur matches. We were a very poor chasing side which would struggle to chase 200, 250 was impossible.
 
You read it I saw it. Go back from 2011 WC you will see the state we were in. We were failing to complete 50 overs in lile 1/3rd of pur matches. We were a very poor chasing side which would struggle to chase 200, 250 was impossible.

[MENTION=154144]TheSultan[/MENTION] apologies was typing on the go so it was an incomplete post.

The gist though is, please go see the records from the previous year (2010). Misbah wasn't part of the team and we were still struggling. Also refer to the Canada match in the WC, you will see what our state was. We were lucky to be playing the semi final in Mohali
 
[MENTION=154144]TheSultan[/MENTION] apologies was typing on the go so it was an incomplete post.

The gist though is, please go see the records from the previous year (2010). Misbah wasn't part of the team and we were still struggling. Also refer to the Canada match in the WC, you will see what our state was. We were lucky to be playing the semi final in Mohali

No problem.

On the subject, I think this is why we are such a middling side. Everyone accepts mediocrity and point to well “at least x made some runs even though we lost, we don’t have any other options”.

I am coining this phrase now “Atleast-ism”

We are seeing this even now with Azhar Ali. At least he made some runs etc etc blah blah. At least he got 7000 runs.

“Atleastism” is killing our cricket and gives us acceptance of mediocrity
 
No problem.

On the subject, I think this is why we are such a middling side. Everyone accepts mediocrity and point to well “at least x made some runs even though we lost, we don’t have any other options”.

I am coining this phrase now “Atleast-ism”

We are seeing this even now with Azhar Ali. At least he made some runs etc etc blah blah. At least he got 7000 runs.

“Atleastism” is killing our cricket and gives us acceptance of mediocrity

That's true. Atleastism is a real problem, I mean we beared with Afridi, Hafeez and Malik for so long.

What I give Misbah credit for is that even with all his limitations and a mediocre team he got the best out of it and took us to number 1! Also those push ups at Lord's were extremely satisfying in context of revenge for the spot fixing saga.
 
That's true. Atleastism is a real problem, I mean we beared with Afridi, Hafeez and Malik for so long.

What I give Misbah credit for is that even with all his limitations and a mediocre team he got the best out of it and took us to number 1! Also those push ups at Lord's were extremely satisfying in context of revenge for the spot fixing saga.

The problem is like Major, you support Misbah more than the Pakistan team. At least Major has admitted this and come to terms with it.

Unlike Misbah's loyalists, I place the interests of Pakistan cricket above the interests of any player. It's about time you do as well.
 
The problem is like Major, you support Misbah more than the Pakistan team. At least Major has admitted this and come to terms with it.

Unlike Misbah's loyalists, I place the interests of Pakistan cricket above the interests of any player. It's about time you do as well.

Although [MENTION=135038]Major[/MENTION] and I have our differences, I'm certainly glad that people from all walks of life can appreciate what Misbah has done. Doesn't mean we support him over PCT.

No doubt that Misbah is my favourite Pakistani cricketer. There's alot to admire about him as he achieved what he did due to sheer hard work. He's not a typical flamboyant Pakistani cricketer that only survived on his natural talent and skill. Unlike others, he worked hard to stay fit and perform at an age when most get past it. Best of all he did what he did with humbleness, a trait that most Pakistanis lack.

His calm demeanor was exactly what was needed to lead the team after the spot fixing debqcle and its safe to say that as a captain he led without any major controversies arising in his period. Compare his tenure to the previous decade, where player controversies were headlines instead of actual cricket news. That was a decade where we had superstars but we didn't achieve much. Our only real success was the 1-0 test series win against India in Pakistan (match where Irfan Pathan got a hattrick).

Misbah on the other hand led a mediocre team but was able to get the best out of it at a time when Pakistan couldn't even play at home. He made our adopted home a fortress, took us to number 1 and had revenge at Lords! He must have been doing something right.

If one looks at his tenure without bias, they will certainly appreciate what he's done and how he went about achieving it.
 
Under misbah we defeated australia 2-0, under babar we are losing the series.....

Just shows how under appreciated misbah was
 
TBH Misbah is as defensive as Babar


BUT

unlike Babar, Misbah is intelligent and selected players based on form not friendships.
 
Under misbah we defeated australia 2-0, under babar we are losing the series.....

Just shows how under appreciated misbah was

Under Sarfraz we beat Australia too with a weaker team at our disposal.
 
That's true. Atleastism is a real problem, I mean we beared with Afridi, Hafeez and Malik for so long.

What I give Misbah credit for is that even with all his limitations and a mediocre team he got the best out of it and took us to number 1! Also those push ups at Lord's were extremely satisfying in context of revenge for the spot fixing saga.

It wasn’t as mediocre as the narrative likes to portray. Legend is Misbah took a bunch of losers and turned them in to world beaters. Simply not true. They had a world class batsman in Younis Khan. A match-winner in Ajmal and Abdur rehman who in favourable conditions was just as effective as Ajmal.

I agree about Afridi, hafeez and malik.

The push ups were copied from Younis who did it many years before Misbah.
 
It wasn’t as mediocre as the narrative likes to portray. Legend is Misbah took a bunch of losers and turned them in to world beaters. Simply not true. They had a world class batsman in Younis Khan. A match-winner in Ajmal and Abdur rehman who in favourable conditions was just as effective as Ajmal.

I agree about Afridi, hafeez and malik.

The push ups were copied from Younis who did it many years before Misbah.

Lol...

Brother, pakistan did not play two spinners in a test game,when misbah started play three spinners in uae pakistani fans went crazy. There are threads on this forum that used to say misbah is destroying the pakistani identy which is to play fast bowlers.

You are now saying that we had ajmal and rehman, at that time fans and our cricket experts used to say play only one spinner.

It was after the england whitewash did people started to accept that 2 spinners can be played in a single test match.

Plus, when rehman was finished, and ajmal got banned, misbah had to use zulfiqar babar than yasir shah. Not as easy as it sounds.

You know why one of the test games against australia ended in a draw? Because zakir khan dod not want to send usama mir, and misbah was desperate that we had 3 spinners in case had an injury. Zakir khan ignored his request and a spinner got injured. Pakistan was one bowler short and had to play for a draw in the first game.

Babar had nauman and sajid, he should had used them properly or get some other spinners.

Misbah used to make sure that the spinners he wanted were selected no matter what.
 
Lol...

Brother, pakistan did not play two spinners in a test game,when misbah started play three spinners in uae pakistani fans went crazy. There are threads on this forum that used to say misbah is destroying the pakistani identy which is to play fast bowlers.

You are now saying that we had ajmal and rehman, at that time fans and our cricket experts used to say play only one spinner.

It was after the england whitewash did people started to accept that 2 spinners can be played in a single test match.

Plus, when rehman was finished, and ajmal got banned, misbah had to use zulfiqar babar than yasir shah. Not as easy as it sounds.

You know why one of the test games against australia ended in a draw? Because zakir khan dod not want to send usama mir, and misbah was desperate that we had 3 spinners in case had an injury. Zakir khan ignored his request and a spinner got injured. Pakistan was one bowler short and had to play for a draw in the first game.

Babar had nauman and sajid, he should had used them properly or get some other spinners.

Misbah used to make sure that the spinners he wanted were selected no matter what.

Firstly, Misbah did destroy Pakistan’s identity of fast bowlers. This is why we have had zero fast bowlers who have taken 150 wickets during the last 12 years.

3 spinners was ridiculous - only 2 were required to do the job. And the way England player only one would have been required.

Regardless, back to my original point - younis and ajmal were world class. So we need to stop this Misbah sob story that he only had losers at his disposal.
 
Firstly, Misbah did destroy Pakistan’s identity of fast bowlers. This is why we have had zero fast bowlers who have taken 150 wickets during the last 12 years.

3 spinners was ridiculous - only 2 were required to do the job. And the way England player only one would have been required.

Regardless, back to my original point - younis and ajmal were world class. So we need to stop this Misbah sob story that he only had losers at his disposal.

after seeing your argument, i rest my case :)
 
after seeing your argument, i rest my case :)

Lol what case? Misbah was a good captain for spinners? Ok fine. Spinners have usually done pretty well in Australia. Mushy had a great tour in 1995/96. Shane Warne obviously. What did his spinners do there?

What about when you’re not playing on spinning wickets?

What did he do to prepare for that? Nothing? He sent our fast bowling 20 years back.

When he was the most powerful man in Pakistan cricket from 2019-2021 what did his spinners do then? When Yasir was losing his touch why didn’t this great leader get the best out of him? Just admit that he had world class spinners who performed because of their ability at the time rather than his leadership.

And even with spinners - they need runs on the board. He was fortunate to have a batsman like younis in the team.

So this silly narrative about turning mediocre players to winners is a joke. And if it was true, he would have turned us in to a formidable team when he had full power over the team. Instead he did literally zero and then chickened out when he would have had to fight it out
 
Lol what case? Misbah was a good captain for spinners? Ok fine. Spinners have usually done pretty well in Australia. Mushy had a great tour in 1995/96. Shane Warne obviously. What did his spinners do there?

What about when you’re not playing on spinning wickets?

What did he do to prepare for that? Nothing? He sent our fast bowling 20 years back.

When he was the most powerful man in Pakistan cricket from 2019-2021 what did his spinners do then? When Yasir was losing his touch why didn’t this great leader get the best out of him? Just admit that he had world class spinners who performed because of their ability at the time rather than his leadership.

And even with spinners - they need runs on the board. He was fortunate to have a batsman like younis in the team.

So this silly narrative about turning mediocre players to winners is a joke. And if it was true, he would have turned us in to a formidable team when he had full power over the team. Instead he did literally zero and then chickened out when he would have had to fight it out

Bro our fast bowling took a set back as soon as Asif and Amir were banned, you can't blame Misbah for this. In fact Misbah used the the replacement fast bowlers so well (Junaid, Irfan, Gul) that we even won our last ODI series in India! It's a myth that he only knew how to use spinners, he got the best out of all players including our then crop of fast bowlers.
 
Bro our fast bowling took a set back as soon as Asif and Amir were banned, you can't blame Misbah for this. In fact Misbah used the the replacement fast bowlers so well (Junaid, Irfan, Gul) that we even won our last ODI series in India! It's a myth that he only knew how to use spinners, he got the best out of all players including our then crop of fast bowlers.

It’s one of the few series we won otherwise we were beaten easily by most teams and had no chance at the WCs the main reason was filling the team with defensive 70 strike rate batsmen apart from using spinners in UAE well Misbah failed to do anything positive for the future and the results recently are all there to see.
 
It’s one of the few series we won otherwise we were beaten easily by most teams and had no chance at the WCs the main reason was filling the team with defensive 70 strike rate batsmen apart from using spinners in UAE well Misbah failed to do anything positive for the future and the results recently are all there to see.

So going by your logic, if we are to blame results of today on Misbah, then results of Misbah era should be blamed on the previous generation of superstars. Wasim, Waqar, Yusuf, Malik, Butt, Inzimam - were all playing musical chairs with captaincy.
 
Bro our fast bowling took a set back as soon as Asif and Amir were banned, you can't blame Misbah for this. In fact Misbah used the the replacement fast bowlers so well (Junaid, Irfan, Gul) that we even won our last ODI series in India! It's a myth that he only knew how to use spinners, he got the best out of all players including our then crop of fast bowlers.

My brother, you’re talking about ODIs. In tests the fast bowlers hardly got a look in in the UAE and even if they did it was in a defensive capacity because everything was geared towards. As result, when they went abroad they were clueless.

And even the ODI series you mentioned was ONE series, overall we were an abysmal ODI team at the time. Yes they won the odd bilateral series. Those series don’t really mean much as everyone is rotating preparing for the next ICC tournament. The 2013 CT with Irfan, Wahab and Junaid was a disgrace. The following World Cup was a disgrace too.
 
My brother, you’re talking about ODIs. In tests the fast bowlers hardly got a look in in the UAE and even if they did it was in a defensive capacity because everything was geared towards. As result, when they went abroad they were clueless.

And even the ODI series you mentioned was ONE series, overall we were an abysmal ODI team at the time. Yes they won the odd bilateral series. Those series don’t really mean much as everyone is rotating preparing for the next ICC tournament. The 2013 CT with Irfan, Wahab and Junaid was a disgrace. The following World Cup was a disgrace too.

In tests, after the departure of Asif and Amir, we didn't have much to work with. Misbah though still got the best out of them. Even guys like Rahat, Imran Khan and Sohail Khan bowled well under him and regularly picked wickets, including a few memorable 5fers. So he wasn't all about spin. Spin was his forte in the UAE, but for away tours he would go with a 3 man pace attack.

I think when it comes to WCs for Pakistan, PCB starts panicking. The board tends to crumble under media pressure. We never go with the best team and there's always a few surprise selections that are above the decisions of the captain and coach. I explicitly remember the tantrums YK threw before WC2015 to get selected and as a result we had to open with him in our first match against India - he got the go ahead instead of Nasir Jamshed , who had smashed India in our last series.
 
In tests, after the departure of Asif and Amir, we didn't have much to work with. Misbah though still got the best out of them. Even guys like Rahat, Imran Khan and Sohail Khan bowled well under him and regularly picked wickets, including a few memorable 5fers. So he wasn't all about spin. Spin was his forte in the UAE, but for away tours he would go with a 3 man pace attack.

I think when it comes to WCs for Pakistan, PCB starts panicking. The board tends to crumble under media pressure. We never go with the best team and there's always a few surprise selections that are above the decisions of the captain and coach. I explicitly remember the tantrums YK threw before WC2015 to get selected and as a result we had to open with him in our first match against India - he got the go ahead instead of Nasir Jamshed , who had smashed India in our last series.

We had promise in Junaid Khan, Sohail Khan and Wahab. Instead we spent a few series trying out fringe trundlers like Imran Khan, Tanvir Ahmed and some other bowlers who were never going to last. Misbah treated fast bowlers as an after thought and a revolving door. None of them got consistent runs and even if they did a play it was for a few overs and then spin, spin, spin.

He basically made us a poor man’s india from the 90s where they only believed they could win with spin.
 
So going by your logic, if we are to blame results of today on Misbah, then results of Misbah era should be blamed on the previous generation of superstars. Wasim, Waqar, Yusuf, Malik, Butt, Inzimam - were all playing musical chairs with captaincy.

No only the time Misbah was in charge as captain and coach the batsmen and bowlers would be mostly his selections.

It’s pretty obvious you don’t like any criticism of Misbah unfortunately Pakistan has been whipping boys and a low ranked team in tests and ODIS for a long time now and Misbah has been in power during this period as captain and coach.

The players are mostly his selections and the results are there to see only now the new players selected are from somebody else Azhar and a few others are the last ones from the Misbah era.
 
Misbah, like Tim Paine was for Australia, was the perfect fix for the mess Pak found themselves in 2010. He should've been a stop-gap option though.

However the longer he continued, you could argue his defensive mentality did erode a bit of Pak cricket's longstanding image of these fearless bunch who are just unpredictable. And I don't mean unpredictable as in no stability, but Pak always had the knack for putting out performance, perhaps only they could while being a good team otherwise.

Under Misbah, I really doubt any players were feared by opposition. Which is why I feel during his phase you can look back and see you didn't do too bad, but you don't have a lot to choose from to pick out a performance and call it as one for the ages.
 
On this day - Misbah played that "Scoop" in the final of the T20 World Cup in 2007 in SA!

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One of the greats of Pakistan cricket. His test team was the best in the world, at its height and he was a fantastic leader.

It was a true pleasure to be a fan.
 
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