Well done team Pakistan

[Azrim_91]

Lesson learned for Pakistan.

Today was qudrat ka nizam. The more deserving, the more hardworking and the more prepared team prevailed.

The world doesnt run on 92 vibes. Just because you fluke your way into the semis doesnt mean you deserve to win the World Cup.

100% agree.

Not once have we won any major tournament playing solid cricket throughout. Every single tournament win has been a fluke. Look at all previous ICC Tournmanent winners and youll see they win the tournament playing solid cricket throughout.

The tournament where we were at our best (and that too because of babar and Rizwan combo firing) was last years ICC T20 WC and we choked in the semis.

 

[Gayle_Force]

Pakistan will lose way more dicy matches than winning them if they keep sticking with the defensive, scared, timid Babar Azam as captain.

I thought Babar’s captaincy when on field was spot on. But I do think captaincy is having an impact on his batting and he may want to have a rethink on his captaincy.

 

[saeedhk]

Pakistan overachieved in this tournament - batted slowly, missed run-outs, failed to perform under pressure, lacked match awareness and lost key phases of matches.

England won because they played well consistently, didn't get bogged down and exhibited strong match awareness. England truly deserved it!

 

[Hextro]

Agreed. I didn't expect Pakistan to come back this hard against England in the second innings. We could've beaten any other team with this performance but England is just on another level.

The team is still young and our bowlers have more room to improve especially Naseem who was brilliant today.

 

[Abdullah Rabbani]

Please someone explain qudrat ka nizam

 

[Theo_14]

Proud of their effort on the field and with the ball. Proud of the team spirit, the positive vibes. No toxic vibes and set good example from a professional aspect of the game especially for the younger generation who look up to them.

Unlucky not to win it, but positives to take along with improvements to make.

 

[RexRex]

Please someone explain qudrat ka nizam ��

Seen this term a lot here and I've no idea what it means.

 

[saeedhk]

100% agree.

Not once have we won any major tournament playing solid cricket throughout. Every single tournament win has been a fluke. Look at all previous ICC Tournmanent winners and youll see they win the tournament playing solid cricket throughout.

The tournament where we were at our best (and that too because of babar and Rizwan combo firing) was last years ICC T20 WC and we choked in the semis.

Exactly! We almost never won or progressed to the SF of an ICC event due to our performance - it has always been due to other factors such as some other team playing poorly or some other miracle. We can never win an ICC trophy because we are awfully inconsistent!

 

[Markhor]

How did this pitch suit Pakistan more than Eng...

Pakistani batsman always struggle against bounce and there was plenty of that on this pitch.

Pakistan lost in last 5 overs of their batting.
The batsmen need to be blamed.

Eng are the best team and deserve to win although they were pretty lucky today as well with toss, plenty of play and miss and Shaheen's injury.

There was bounce but no pace in wicket. Be thankful it wasn't a traditional MCG belter otherwise margin of result wouldn't have been close.

Our last 5 overs were pathetic, but ENG scored 10 more runs in the PP than us. Look at how Buttler responded after a few plays and misses - that encapsulates the difference between these two teams. Once again under pressure our openers reverted to type.

Please don't give me this unlucky excuse - you don't lose three T20 Cups through bad luck alone.

Our captain is a total bottler under pressure as a batsman and skipper. Consistently he makes the wrong calls in big games, and it hurts us time and again.

Maybe you and others here are content with hard luck stories but I'm not - we should've won one from 2021 T20 World Cup, Asia Cup and this T20 World Cup, but have ended up with nothing.

 

[Major]

Pakistan overachieved in this tournament - batted slowly, missed run-outs, failed to perform under pressure, lacked match awareness and lost key phases of matches.

England won because they played well consistently, didn't get bogged down and exhibited strong match awareness. England truly deserved it!

how the hell did this team overachieved?

they came second, this isnt an over achievement.

 

[topspin]

Commiserations to fans like [MENTION=135038]Major[/MENTION] who believed we have world class openers

Even during the match thread, he was praising Babar's 32 runs off 28 balls.

This is a reflection of what happens when one see cricket through the lens of Misbah.

 

[Ashmal]

No shame in losing to this Eng team, they deservedly won it after coming so close in 2016.

Tbh, I expected Eng to romp home chasing 138, similar to what they did to India but credit to Pakistan for making a match out of it.

 

[topspin]

There was bounce but no pace in wicket. Be thankful it wasn't a traditional MCG belter otherwise margin of result wouldn't have been close.

Our last 5 overs were pathetic, but ENG scored 10 more runs in the PP than us. Look at how Buttler responded after a few plays and misses - that encapsulates the difference between these two teams. Once again under pressure our openers reverted to type.

Please don't give me this unlucky excuse - you don't lose three T20 Cups through bad luck alone.

Our captain is a total bottler under pressure as a batsman and skipper. Consistently he makes the wrong calls in big games, and it hurts us time and again.

Maybe you and others here are content with hard luck stories but I'm not - we should've won one from 2021 T20 World Cup, Asia Cup and this T20 World Cup, but have ended up with nothing.

100% bang on.

I'm sick to death of how he's been hyped up here by the usual green tinted hype brigade.

They need to acknowledge that Babar has been selfish throughout this whole tournament, he knows deep down that he shouldn't be opening.

Muhammad Harris should've opened today batting first. It may've not worked out but at least the right process was followed.

 

[Corridor of Uncertainty]

I think fair to say we have slots in the team for 2-3 batsmen and 1 bowler.

Otherwise a very good team.

 

[sweep_shot]

I think Pakistan did well overall (apart from that Zimbabwe game).

 

[Gayle_Force]

There was bounce but no pace in wicket. Be thankful it wasn't a traditional MCG belter otherwise margin of result wouldn't have been close.

Our last 5 overs were pathetic, but ENG scored 10 more runs in the PP than us. Look at how Buttler responded after a few plays and misses - that encapsulates the difference between these two teams. Once again under pressure our openers reverted to type.

Please don't give me this unlucky excuse - you don't lose three T20 Cups through bad luck alone.

Our captain is a total bottler under pressure as a batsman and skipper. Consistently he makes the wrong calls in big games, and it hurts us time and again.

Maybe you and others here are content with hard luck stories but I'm not - we should've won one from 2021 T20 World Cup, Asia Cup and this T20 World Cup, but have ended up with nothing.

England also lost 2 more wickets. At the 15 over mark England were actually behind. It was really unfortunate that Shaheen got injured, which was pretty much game over for Pakistan.We definitely need to find ways to improve our white ball cricket but let’s be honest we are well behind the England team especially in these conditions.

 

[zulfiqar]

Well played Pakistan! Proud of the fight we gave after posting a way below par total!
Hold your heads high!

 

[ElRaja]

well done to the team on the stuff they did right, hard to get too mad knowing how limited paks batting is, the fact that SA conceded 180 to this line up is shocking in hindsight.

just hope that they keep the stuff that's working, the bowling, as is, and accept that their are massive deficiencies in the batting, which need a change of approach.

 

[CrIc_Mystique]

Commiserations to pak fans on PP -well played.
Good fighting spirit shown till the very end. for a true lover of pace bowling , your pace bowlers are a treat to watch. & I also experienced the wonder ful song 'Dil Dil Jaan jaan Pak' at the MCG in the first match against us -love the song. all in all the finals was exciting. Well played pak!

 

[James]

Congratulations Pakistan, as considering where they are as a T20I side at the moment getting to the Final was a very good effort.

 

[Kriketer]

Shuffle in opening and a 1-2 proper hard hitters like Haris and we will only get better. Great tournament for Pakistan and we will only get better.

Gotta keep our heads high and disregard the whiners here. They likely live their whole live with similar whining motto.

Ofcourse it's disappointing to lose, but fighting spirit of the team should be appreciated. We can only get better from here with this world class bowling lineup and two top batsmen.

 

[topspin]

Lesson learned for Pakistan.

Today was qudrat ka nizam. The more deserving, the more hardworking and the more prepared team prevailed.

The world doesn’t run on 92 vibes. Just because you fluke your way into the semis doesn’t mean you deserve to win the World Cup.

It's unfortunate that we're still living off this WC win 30 years later.

The way I see it, it has ruined our cricketing culture because we believe we can come underprepared and just turn up in tournaments hoping we can fluke it to the end.

It's cringe that before every World Cup, the team gets prep talk/visit with IK. We need to let go of that and not let that win define our cricketing future.

That generation needs to be forgotten if we're to move forward.

 

[Ashmal]

There was bounce but no pace in wicket. Be thankful it wasn't a traditional MCG belter otherwise margin of result wouldn't have been close.

Our last 5 overs were pathetic, but ENG scored 10 more runs in the PP than us. Look at how Buttler responded after a few plays and misses - that encapsulates the difference between these two teams. Once again under pressure our openers reverted to type.

Please don't give me this unlucky excuse - you don't lose three T20 Cups through bad luck alone.

Our captain is a total bottler under pressure as a batsman and skipper. Consistently he makes the wrong calls in big games, and it hurts us time and again.

Maybe you and others here are content with hard luck stories but I'm not - we should've won one from 2021 T20 World Cup, Asia Cup and this T20 World Cup, but have ended up with nothing.

Eng scored 49/3 in PP while Pakistan got 39/1.
Don't think Pakistan did too bad, maybe 5 runs short but Eng had no pressure chasing only 138.
And Pakistan don't have anyone with Butler's hitting ablity so no point comparing with his approach.
We all saw how Haris struggled to lay bat on ball and kept swinging(no offense to him, just pointing out the difference in quality between Eng and Pak).

Anyways, the game wasn't lost in PP today.
Pakistan eventually did well to build a base with 84/2 in 11 overs and looked set to get 160 which would've won the game.

But scoring only 19 in last 4 overs meant that game was all but gone.

Blame should go to the batsmen....with Babar, Ifti and Shan all getting out in quick succession.

Babar isn't the greatest tactician but I don't think any captain would've defended 138 here....Pakistan tried their best and lost to a better side.

Going forward, I'd like Babar/Rizwan to skip T20s for next few months and concentrate on ODIs and Tests.

Give T20 captaincy to Shadab as I feel it's affecting Babar's batting.

 

[PakPremi]

lol what well done !! Pakistan were always expected to reach semis and finals. They should have won it.
Down the line, no one will remember these well done threads. Everyone will remember that England are now 2 time WC champions.

And Pakistan are 3 times finalists, and even won it once, count for lot.

 

[PakPremi]

I made it quite clear I was supporting England before the game and even now am kind of happy with the result.

But just want to pipe in, the incredible fight by Pakistan during the 2nd half was something else. And it made me pause several times and think about why I wanted them to lose.

My feelings in the end are multiple:
Huge respect for the Pak effort.
Disappointed with Afridi leaving the field.
In awe of Stokes.
And a melancholic feeling about how two neighbors are doomed. And so eager to root for a team that represent someone who ruled over both of us. And also how we are so enthusiastic to tear each other down without any sense of unity.

That said, I will be looking out for a few posters Just maybe not right now.

Good post.

 

[ekpakistani]

Well played Pakistan. Made a match out of almost nothing with key bowler injured at wrong time.

Well played England and deserved to be the winners. No shame in losing this.

 

[IAJ]

In the end, you need to be good in all facets to win. Pakistan's batting were extremely poor, the fielding was very good and the bowling very speciall.

 

[PakPremi]

It's unfortunate that we're still living off this WC win 30 years later.

The way I see it, it has ruined our cricketing culture because we believe we can come underprepared and just turn up in tournaments hoping we can fluke it to the end.

It's cringe that before every World Cup, the team gets prep talk/visit with IK. We need to let go of that and not let that win define our cricketing future.

That generation needs to be forgotten if we're to move forward.

92 wc had nothing to do with Pakistan performance overall, its more to do with poor squad selections and average captaincy and Babar being inflexible.

 

[BunnyRabbit]

Hopefully the next time we will go one step ahead to win it.

England are a beast of a side in LOIs and no shame really losing to them. But our batting was poor. Should have gotten 15 more runs considering England's bowling is not as good as their batting.

Will be tough to digest it. But would be a little easier than 07 final and the defeat to India earlier in the tournament.

It wasn't a soul crushing loss by any means. Those who have been watching cricket for a long time would know how much worse it could've gotten. Those who have started watching it recently, you guys will get used to it.

 

[topspin]

92 wc had nothing to do with Pakistan performance overall, its more to do with poor squad selections and average captaincy and Babar being inflexible.

No but our cricketing culture is and that's why we haven't kept up with the modern demands of the game.

 

[GLORY OF '92]

Don't be minnows.

We lost another final.

 

[Buffet]

Despite having poor openers, bowlers kept Pakistan in hunt here. Pakistan should change openers.

Over all, Pakistan did well to get to Final here.

 

[asadee]

2 more decent bats and this team can become unbeatable

 

[pillionrider]

I was supporting England in this match but feel bad for both India and Pakistan now.

No man, you're just feeling sad. End of.

 

[PakPremi]

No but our cricketing culture is and that's why we haven't kept up with the modern demands of the game.

Thus too has nothing to do with 92 world cup but technically the nation is behind and not able to progress in any aspects of life due to rife corruption in our society and due to lack of opportunities for deserving people. WoT did not help either.

 

[Heisenberg111]

Don't be minnows.

We lost another final.

Yes, another choke. Batting bottled under pressure big time.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Well done for what? The only guy who had even a faint perception of what a ramp shot was was l late call up in Muhammad Haris. We knew decades ago that batting was our problem, so the answer was to hire a couple of fat former Aussies wth no coaching credentials?

 

[Zaz]

Yh well done overall Its not a great batting team on paper but the team fought well to the end

They punched above their weight And there was no lack of effort Thats all you can ask for when playing a better team

Well done boys Proud of You

 

[Syed1]

Well it was fun while it lasted. Loved the fight that the team gave.

Until next time PP.

 

[The_KING]

This mentality of praising teams after losing a match is minnow mentality. Who cares if we fought hard? We are Pakistan and we are meant to be a top team. We shouldn't be praising them for losing another final. This team nearly always loses finals or series deciders. Should such a mentally weak be praised? Not, in my opinion.

 

[unitedkush]

Congratulations to Pakistan, they did extra-ordinarily well to reach the Finals with the resources they have. Close losses like these can be used as a learning experience to get better in the future. It should be a springboard for the board and management.

Fans are being over-dramatic in here, which is to be expected (we are same, if not worse). There can be few changes which can make them stronger, Babar has to push himself down to 3 and have Haris/Fakhar at top to get some pace up front. Also, likes of Nawaz/Iftikhar have to be trusted a bit more with the ball when conditions are suited to as they were today. Folks in here should keep in mind that Pakistan had not won even a single T20 in Australia till the Netherlands match, to reach the Finals is a great achievement. I really enjoyed watching Pakistan play in this World Cup

 

[Gayle_Force]

This mentality of praising teams after losing a match is minnow mentality. Who cares if we fought hard? We are Pakistan and we are meant to be a top team. We shouldn't be praising them for losing another final. This team nearly always loses finals or series deciders. Should such a mentally weak be praised? Not, in my opinion.

At the end of the day, this is a sports tournament, one team will win and the rest will lose. As a fan base we need to accept that. Making the final of a WC is a big deal. No one gave Pakistan a chance to make this far before tournament started.

Mentally weak teams don’t make the finals. Pakistan could have completely gone down after the Zimbabwe loss but the team had the fight to come back and win 4 virtually knock out matches. It does not make anyone a minnow to take the positives out if the tournament and work on the gaps.

Only subcontinent cricket fans have this mindset. Follow any other sport internationally, fan bases accept defeat and move on but still take positives and negatives from the series. Only in subcontinent do we make it a life or death scenario.

 

[dravidthewall]

Please someone explain qudrat ka nizam

It's saqlain mustaq dialogue i guess

 

[mesmerizer85]

Most cricketing experts had given 60/40 prediction (Eng/Pak) before the start of Final. Deep down we also knew this England team would be hard to beat.

Simply compare the strike rates of their batsmen and ours (140+ / 120+) and Avg and you will realize who was more suited to bat well out of the two.

Going forward we need to focus to get such batsmen in our team who can match to that standard if we plan on winning next WC

 

[Usman Chadda]

Most cricketing experts had given 60/40 prediction (Eng/Pak) before the start of Final. Deep down we also knew this England team would be hard to beat.

Simply compare the strike rates of their batsmen and ours (140+ / 120+) and Avg and you will realize who was more suited to bat well out of the two.

Going forward we need to focus to get such batsmen in our team who can match to that standard if we plan on winning next WC

Exactly, we came up short against an absolute juggernaut, who people forget were coming off mauling one of the ‘favorites’ of this World Cup.

Our batting cost us the game. Nothing short of perfection in batting would have been enough, and that’s how it proved to be in the end. Our last 9 overs were a joke and no bowling attack could have compensated for that.

 

[GLORY OF '92]

At the end of the day, this is a sports tournament, one team will win and the rest will lose. As a fan base we need to accept that. Making the final of a WC is a big deal. No one gave Pakistan a chance to make this far before tournament started.

Mentally weak teams don’t make the finals. Pakistan could have completely gone down after the Zimbabwe loss but the team had the fight to come back and win 4 virtually knock out matches. It does not make anyone a minnow to take the positives out if the tournament and work on the gaps.

Only subcontinent cricket fans have this mindset. Follow any other sport internationally, fan bases accept defeat and move on but still take positives and negatives from the series. Only in subcontinent do we make it a life or death scenario.

3 knock out losses are unacceptable in 12 months.

 

[The_KING]

At the end of the day, this is a sports tournament, one team will win and the rest will lose. As a fan base we need to accept that. Making the final of a WC is a big deal. No one gave Pakistan a chance to make this far before tournament started.

Mentally weak teams don’t make the finals. Pakistan could have completely gone down after the Zimbabwe loss but the team had the fight to come back and win 4 virtually knock out matches. It does not make anyone a minnow to take the positives out if the tournament and work on the gaps.

Only subcontinent cricket fans have this mindset. Follow any other sport internationally, fan bases accept defeat and move on but still take positives and negatives from the series. Only in subcontinent do we make it a life or death scenario.

It is hard to be positive after coming second. My mentality in life is that you are either number 1 or nothing.

Also, lets not forget that we only reached the final, thanks to South Africa's choking habits at world cups. The sort of cricket we played during the tournament, we didn't deserve to be anywhere near the final.

 

[Zaz]

3 knock out losses are unacceptable in 12 months.

Theres teams doing worse than pakistan who have punched above their weights class this WC

 

[cerebralrattlesnake]

It is hard to be positive after coming second. My mentality in life is that you are either number 1 or nothing.

Also, lets not forget that we only reached the final, thanks to South Africa's choking habits at world cups. The sort of cricket we played during the tournament, we didn't deserve to be anywhere near the final.

we didn't deserve to be in the final but also should have won it all

which one is it?

 

[Usman Chadda]

We will do well to understand the batting, with all its apparent and obvious flaws, was bound to fail at some point. Unfortunately, that happened in the final.

Chin up people, we will have another crack at it at some point.

 

[GLORY OF '92]

We will do well to understand the batting, with all its apparent and obvious flaws, was bound to fail at some point. Unfortunately, that happened in the final.

Chin up people, we will have another crack at it at some point.

Not for long time.

 

[The_KING]

we didn't deserve to be in the final but also should have won it all

which one is it?

We shouldn't have been in the final, but that doesn't mean I should be happy that we lost in the final. If you reach the final, you owe to your fans to play better cricket than these jokers have throughout the tournament.

 

[Gayle_Force]

It is hard to be positive after coming second. My mentality in life is that you are either number 1 or nothing.

Also, lets not forget that we only reached the final, thanks to South Africa's choking habits at world cups. The sort of cricket we played during the tournament, we didn't deserve to be anywhere near the final.

Not saying that we dont have things to take away and work on. There is absolutely alot of work to be done. I can also say that England only reached the final because Australia lost so badly against New Zealand. Otherwise, England did lose to Ireland. At the end of the day Pakistan with its limited resources is finding a way to get to the final stages now just need to fill in some gaps to take the last few steps.

 

[Cric1234]

Most cricketing experts had given 60/40 prediction (Eng/Pak) before the start of Final. Deep down we also knew this England team would be hard to beat.

Simply compare the strike rates of their batsmen and ours (140+ / 120+) and Avg and you will realize who was more suited to bat well out of the two.

Going forward we need to focus to get such batsmen in our team who can match to that standard if we plan on winning next WC

It wasn’t even 60/40 it was 90/10 to England the way the boundaries are at the MCG the middle order wasn’t going to pull a rabbit out of the hat like against SA and NZ in the tri series recently the match would be won and lost by the top 4 batsmen.

Unfortunately it was obvious the Pakistan top order would be outbatted by England which happened even on a wicket which should have suited Pakistan as they would’ve preferred a wicket that gives some help to the bowlers.

 

[Gayle_Force]

3 knock out losses are unacceptable in 12 months.

Pakistan made three knock out stages in last 12 months, when teams like India only made one, and got trashed in that too. We have to accept that on paper teams like India, SA and Australia are stronger than Pakistan and Pakistan is actually punching above their weight right now to get to these knockout stages.

 

[The_KING]

Not saying that we dont have things to take away and work on. There is absolutely alot of work to be done. I can also say that England only reached the final because Australia lost so badly against New Zealand. Otherwise, England did lose to Ireland. At the end of the day Pakistan with its limited resources is finding a way to get to the final stages now just need to fill in some gaps to take the last few steps.

I hope Pakistan build on this run and start to consistently reach the Sfs and finals of tournaments. No more group stage exits hopefully in the foreseeable future.

 

[Cric1234]

Not saying that we dont have things to take away and work on. There is absolutely alot of work to be done. I can also say that England only reached the final because Australia lost so badly against New Zealand. Otherwise, England did lose to Ireland. At the end of the day Pakistan with its limited resources is finding a way to get to the final stages now just need to fill in some gaps to take the last few steps.

England losing to Ireland is irrelevant as they won the World Cup and now hold both the 50 and 20 over trophies that’s what matters winning the final is everything losing consistently in the knockouts is the sign of a mentally weak team where the main players fail to produce the big performances.

 

[world cup captain]

Very proud of the way the bowlers fought back to defend a very low score. The bowlers gave everything they had and as a fan there's nothing more I can ask for.

 

[Gayle_Force]

England losing to Ireland is irrelevant as they won the World Cup and now hold both the 50 and 20 over trophies that’s what matters winning the final is everything losing consistently in the knockouts is the sign of a mentally weak team where the main players fail to produce the big performances.

The Ireland match was in reference to the suggestion that Pak got through to knock outs because of luck, which actually also very much applies to England. Realistically England is far ahead of any other team right now in LOI cricket. To suggest that Pak post final because we are mentally weak is not true. England is simply a better side and tbh they also had fortune on their side today as well.

 

[pakistani pride]

England losing to Ireland is irrelevant as they won the World Cup and now hold both the 50 and 20 over trophies that’s what matters winning the final is everything losing consistently in the knockouts is the sign of a mentally weak team where the main players fail to produce the big performances.

Mentally weak teams do not reach finals. Remember this team also won the series away in NZ. They actually step up and perform very well. The bowlers are on other level, what they do is just amazing.

Batting was below par and you cant win vs Eng with such a batting display.

 

[Usman Chadda]

The Ireland match was in reference to the suggestion that Pak got through to knock outs because of luck, which actually also very much applies to England. Realistically England is far ahead of any other team right now in LOI cricket. To suggest that Pak post final because we are mentally weak is not true. England is simply a better side and tbh they also had fortune on their side today as well.

Excellent point. England is a much better LOI side than us, no qualms in admitting that. However, they also had some fortune tonight, which coupled with their skill level and our poor total meant Pakistan bowlers were always up against it.

 

[GLORY OF '92]

Mentally weak teams do not reach finals. Remember this team also won the series away in NZ. They actually step up and perform very well. The bowlers are on other level, what they do is just amazing.

Batting was below par and you cant win vs Eng with such a batting display.

Our bowling is overrated. Asia Cup final, Last year Semi and India game exposed it.

 

[Harsh Thakor]

A most organized and clinical bowling effort of England,who have been consistency and professionalism personified personified in recent months in T-20 Cricket.All credit to Pakistan for displaying such relentless spirit to claw back with wickets of Hales,Stokes and Brooks at junctures when the match looked to have slipped from their grasp.It was in the 16th over after Afridi was injured and replaced by Ifthikar Ahmed,that Stokes and Moen Ali unleashed a final knockout punch to put England in the drivers seat first,and by the 17th over reduce the result to mere ritual with the result a foregone conclusion.If Pakistan had registered around 160 it may have been anybody's game.I give credit to Pakistan for staying in the reckoning or in the hunt till the 15th over.

 

[PakPremi]

3 knock out losses are unacceptable in 12 months.

How about looking at it this way despite having a mid table team they made into two finals and one semifinal in one year, wonderful achievement. Realistically Pakistan batting team has below average batting team for T20s and need changes.

 

[PakPremi]

Our bowling is overrated. Asia Cup final, Last year Semi and India game exposed it.

Bowling did brilliant throught the tournament, even against India it was one bad bowl by Haris and a poor final over by Nawaz, whi should not had been bowling that over.

 

[Cric1234]

How about looking at it this way despite having a mid table team they made into two finals and one semifinal in one year, wonderful achievement. Realistically Pakistan batting team has below average batting team for T20s and need changes.

How about looking at it properly we didn’t win anything realistically only 6 teams could win it getting to the last 4 isn’t some amazing achievement unless the team is a minnow and in the Asia Cup only 3 teams can realistically win it again nothing amazing even there we are well behind India and Sri Lanka in tournament victories simply getting to the final isn’t good enough.

 

[Ashmal]

Not for long time.

Same was said after last WC loss.

 

[Ashmal]

How about looking at it properly we didn’t win anything realistically only 6 teams could win it getting to the last 4 isn’t some amazing achievement unless the team is a minnow and in the Asia Cup only 3 teams can realistically win it again nothing amazing even there we are well behind India and Sri Lanka in tournament victories simply getting to the final isn’t good enough.

In last few years, Pakistan wasn't even reaching semis......so playing 3 finals in last one year is surely a sign of inprovement.

There's a lot improvement to be made but these results show that the team isn't that far behind.

 

[Smudger]

I am not at all dissapointed. The boys fought till the last ball. 61 needed off 60 was a walk in the park but the boys put in their all. Unfortunately it wasn't meant to be. Losing the final is'nt end of the World.
Well played team Green.
PS: Stay away from this forum as some self proclaimed Pakistanis are having a ball

 

[Harsh Thakor]

Very well explained appreciate

 

[happydavy]

Have said it multiple times on this forum, that Pakistanis should be proud of their cricket team of last 10 years or so. Inspite of all the challenges they have faced, they have managed to win a lot of important games and performed exceedingly well in ICC tournaments. It's only a matter of time before they add another world cup, and i hope it happens soon.

 

[happydavy]

Our bowling is overrated. Asia Cup final, Last year Semi and India game exposed it.

It's not overrated skillwise, but yes at times team overall end up panicking and that's the only drawback.

 

[Rana]

Commiserations to [MENTION=129948]Bilal7[/MENTION] who claimed Babar and Rizwan are better at facing world class bowling in comparison to Hales and Butler

 

[Corridor of Uncertainty]

It's unfortunate that we're still living off this WC win 30 years later.

The way I see it, it has ruined our cricketing culture because we believe we can come underprepared and just turn up in tournaments hoping we can fluke it to the end.

It's cringe that before every World Cup, the team gets prep talk/visit with IK. We need to let go of that and not let that win define our cricketing future.

That generation needs to be forgotten if we're to move forward.

Pakistan have won a world t20 and a champions trophy after 92. Also been test no 1. Pakistan aren’t living off ‘92.

This year there were similarities so it is being brought up.

 

[the Great Khan]

Coming back to our great team. Love this team. A great tournament team.

They used to say " where are your superstars" well inmho we have 11 of them. This team has a great dedicated attitude a goos captain. Great fast bowlers. Passion pride and stick ability. They made us proud.

England are a top outfit and have been for a while now. Our boys are just getting started. Two big finals this season. Two consecutive world cup semi finals. Pakistan cricket is back. And I'm loving this team. Well.done boys. Thank you for the great performances this season.

 

[the Great Khan]

I am not at all dissapointed. The boys fought till the last ball. 61 needed off 60 was a walk in the park but the boys put in their all. Unfortunately it wasn't meant to be. Losing the final is'nt end of the World.
Well played team Green.
PS: Stay away from this forum as some self proclaimed Pakistanis are having a ball

This is our forum ot theirs. We should counter their propaganda and stand with our team.

 

[PakPremi]

[MENTION=2016]Rana[/MENTION] Babar went out to spin bowler. What did Hales do against pace?
Even in the tri series against Pakistan he made one fifty full of lives and edges, andfailed in all innings. Rizwan and Babar failed in this tornament overall but will be back, but Babar needs to drop.

 

[the Great Khan]

A most organized and clinical bowling effort of England,who have been consistency and professionalism personified personified in recent months in T-20 Cricket.All credit to Pakistan for displaying such relentless spirit to claw back with wickets of Hales,Stokes and Brooks at junctures when the match looked to have slipped from their grasp.It was in the 16th over after Afridi was injured and replaced by Ifthikar Ahmed,that Stokes and Moen Ali unleashed a final knockout punch to put England in the drivers seat first,and by the 17th over reduce the result to mere ritual with the result a foregone conclusion.If Pakistan had registered around 160 it may have been anybody's game.I give credit to Pakistan for staying in the reckoning or in the hunt till the 15th over.

Thanks for the obvious commentary. This thread is to show our pride in our boys performance. You can save the bollywood melodrama laced with hidden insidious joy for another thread.

 

[the Great Khan]

Our bowling is overrated. Asia Cup final, Last year Semi and India game exposed it.

Err no its not. Indias is way more overated. Ours packs a punch..if afridi hadn't got injured this would have gone right down to the wire..only Pakistan can do that..the rest fold like the trundlers they are.

 

[GLORY OF '92]

Err no its not. Indias is way more overated. Ours packs a punch..if afridi hadn't got injured this would have gone right down to the wire..only Pakistan can do that..the rest fold like the trundlers they are.

It packs a punch but fails at critical junctures