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"We'll try to bring a vice-captain on board soon, groom him until Azhar is playing" : Misbah-ul-Haq

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"We'll try to bring a vice-captain on board soon, groom him until Azhar is playing" : Misbah-ul-Haq

Misbah-ul-Haq on Ten Sports after the 2nd Test against Sri Lanka:

"We had a debate about playing Abid Ali in Australia. Finally, we came to the conclusion that Imam has been playing international cricket in SA etc. so he should be given a chance first in Australia. For Abid, it would have been a completely new experience"

"Abid has been playing for the A team consistently but sometimes you have a combination of players. Hafeez was playing previously and he had an added advantage of bowling. We had a set batting lineup too. Sometimes you're not able to break in, but he was on the scene. Lots of credit for him, he performed every time he was given a chance"

"I would advise Abid to continue to play the way he is playing in ODIs and Tests and concentrate on these formats, that's more important for Pakistan. Sometimes in an effort to become a T20 player, you start losing your shape as a batsman. If you understand that, like Hashim Amla did, he played the same type of cricket and relied on cricketing shots. Here, it's a bit different. Azhar in the beginning was playing some T20 cricket and he was deviating from his natural game"

"Azhar has been playing for a while and he's gone through these situations, it happened in England and also before that Sharjah historical match, he had gone through a poor run and it was a make or break innings for him. So someone who has been through that before has an idea of the process and knows that he needs to continue working hard. But when you haven't been through these situations, you give up and it becomes difficult. He is mentally strong and the good thing is that he kept working hard and in a pressure situation, he played according to the requirements"

"Azhar has experience of captaincy and he has international cricket experience. After playing so much cricket, you can't survive without cricketing sense. We needed a captain right now, specially one who can lead with performances. In the long term, we have to look towards someone who can serve Pakistan for 8-10 years at least and we are in discussions about that and we're thinking about it. We will try to bring a vice-captain on board soon and groom him until Azhar is playing, so that we have the next person ready. When Azhar was made captain also, we were thinking about this long term vision and we had debate about it. Insha'Allah, we will take a decision soon on this"

"It's a big achievement because of the situation, we lost home series to NZ then lost Tests in SA and Aus. We're just sitting there and thinking for some good news at least which gives you confidence and there is nothing better than victory which takes you in the right direction. That helps you to start thinking positively"

"After a long time, we won a Test match on the basis of fast-bowlers' performances, that too in Pakistan. Our performances previously were centred around spinners like Yasir Shah. This is a new era where you need fast-bowling, like we had in the 90s and before. If our fast-bowlers are winning us matches here then once we go overseas, we have more chances"

"Test cricket is such that you need to forget about series, every Test match is an event. Put series aside, if there is a 3 match series and you lose 2 and win 1, that is an achievement. No matter how much T20I or ODI cricket you play, the Test match we won today makes you feel like you have achieved something big. You can't compare Test cricket to any other format"

"This young team needs improvement in many things, if we continue to win then it will be important for Pakistan cricket and this team"
 
The only reason Babar isn't vice captain at the moment is because Azhar would get way too insecure.
 
Babar seems to be the only realistic candidate?
 
Azhar never had leadership qualities , how can a captain be groomed under him¿ Some really silly decisions by pcb , first appointing misbah and then azhar as captain. One good test shouldnt put failures under the carpet , we saw how pathetic was azhars captaincy in australia and was mentioned by a number of commentators too.
 
Shaan should replace Azhar now and Babar his deputy. Like his batting and captaincy in the past, Misbah's statements are also always depressing.
 
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Shan masood coukd be another one.

First, how is someone who averages 29 a good vice captain candidate?

Second, Shan himself is 30+, what is the point of grooming someone at that age. If Azhar plays another 2-3 years, Shan would be taking over captaincy at 33 and you would be in the same position all over again.
 
First, how is someone who averages 29 a good vice captain candidate?

Second, Shan himself is 30+, what is the point of grooming someone at that age. If Azhar plays another 2-3 years, Shan would be taking over captaincy at 33 and you would be in the same position all over again.

Pcb works in mysterious ways, they may appount asad shafiq.
 
No,.misbah is saying the guy who have 8-10 years of cricket left will be appointed

That only leaves two guys than if we exclude teenagers. Babar Azam and Mohammad Rizwan. Most likely Babar.
 
Babar should be kept away from captaincy. You don't want to ruin his run scoring form, he's a specialist batsman and should remain one. Far more valuable that way.

Azhar was made captain because they didn't want to burden Babar, the only other realistic captaincy candidate right now. And I'm glad he's saved from that task.

Maybe he can be VC for now, but ideally it should be someone else.

Not Shan Masood, neither Babar.
 
Somethings are pretty consistent in Pakistan cricket: we game Imam two innings before moving to Abid. but we are happy to give a longer rope to azhar ali who has been averaging mid 20's for the better part of two years.
 
Babar should be kept away from captaincy. You don't want to ruin his run scoring form, he's a specialist batsman and should remain one. Far more valuable that way.

Azhar was made captain because they didn't want to burden Babar, the only other realistic captaincy candidate right now. And I'm glad he's saved from that task.

Maybe he can be VC for now, but ideally it should be someone else.

Not Shan Masood, neither Babar.

So who does that leave us with, Asad Shafiq? I wouldn't be surprised if he is "groomed" for the next couple of years.

Or is Azhar going to play for the next 5 years until another junior establishes himself in test cricket?
 
Somethings are pretty consistent in Pakistan cricket: we game Imam two innings before moving to Abid. but we are happy to give a longer rope to azhar ali who has been averaging mid 20's for the better part of two years.

Azhar has 16 centuries and 5900 runs to his name. Imam has zero centuries and 500 runs.
 
Azhar has 16 centuries and 5900 runs to his name. Imam has zero centuries and 500 runs.
cant think of any team that will allow its senior batsmen (Azhar and Asad) to average mid 20's and lose test series after test series.
Its the same logic as selecting shafiq and azhar.
 
Yup just like I thought this series did more damage to Pakistan cricket than help it.
 
Somethings are pretty consistent in Pakistan cricket: we game Imam two innings before moving to Abid. but we are happy to give a longer rope to azhar ali who has been averaging mid 20's for the better part of two years.

Imam pretty much played 11 tests in last 2 years and was a failure so go dropped. So pretty poor example to use.

Azhar should have indeed got the boot from the team though.
 
Imam pretty much played 11 tests in last 2 years and was a failure so go dropped. So pretty poor example to use.

Azhar should have indeed got the boot from the team though.

Imam got the rope he deserved because he was doing well in odi's. I dont make the rules, but that's how we select/drop players by confusing the formats
 
“We need a youngsta beauty for the VC position. But also someone who has seen enough FC cricket to be able handle the different natures of Test cricket. I’m proud to announce the next future captain of Pakistan - Ifti Chacha” :misbah4
 
Babar should be kept away from captaincy. You don't want to ruin his run scoring form, he's a specialist batsman and should remain one. Far more valuable that way.

Azhar was made captain because they didn't want to burden Babar, the only other realistic captaincy candidate right now. And I'm glad he's saved from that task.

Maybe he can be VC for now, but ideally it should be someone else.

Not Shan Masood, neither Babar.

*A few hours later*

Misbah: I've decided that Babar will be groomed for captaincy


Hawkeye:

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:yk :broad
 
Get Saud Shakeel in the squads asap then. He is future captaincy material for sure.
 
That's only decent thing misbah has said since becoming coach. hope he implements it too
 
Misbah would probably go for another puppet like Shafiq. Azhar will play for another 5 years till he is 40 and Shafiq will player for another 7 years as well.

Pakistan cricket is in safe hands.
 
Misbah would probably go for another puppet like Shafiq. Azhar will play for another 5 years till he is 40 and Shafiq will player for another 7 years as well.

Pakistan cricket is in safe hands.

Thank you misbah

Lol
 
Misbah would probably go for another puppet like Shafiq. Azhar will play for another 5 years till he is 40 and Shafiq will player for another 7 years as well.

Pakistan cricket is in safe hands.

No he won't. He said he wants then to be captain for 8-10 years. Shafiq will be around 41-43 by then, he will not be the VC. I think it'll be Babar Azam.
 
Misbah meant to say he'll try to find an obedient, loyal person to him (yes-man) or a meek individual like Azhar to replace Azhar until that time Azhar Ali can go over the cliff with the team, he's fine with it. He does'nt want a strong personality or a strong captain, Misbah is too insecure and pathetic.

This should be asked of these 2 geniuses Mani and Wasim Khan who brought this joke Misbah back and gave him 2 jobs, chief selector and coach.

Misbah has shown his true colors and even if Pakistan has won most are sitting on the fence regarding Misbah. No one wants to watch this Pakistan team.
 
Misbah meant to say he'll try to find an obedient, loyal person to him (yes-man) or a meek individual like Azhar to replace Azhar until that time Azhar Ali can go over the cliff with the team, he's fine with it. He does'nt want a strong personality or a strong captain, Misbah is too insecure and pathetic.

This should be asked of these 2 geniuses Mani and Wasim Khan who brought this joke Misbah back and gave him 2 jobs, chief selector and coach.

Misbah has shown his true colors and even if Pakistan has won most are sitting on the fence regarding Misbah. No one wants to watch this Pakistan team.

Who would have you made test captain? Sarfraz is finished as a player and Rizwan deserved the chance. So there wasn't any options. I don't want Babar to be captain just yet because there will be too much pressure. They should make Babar captain in 2-3 years though.
 
Who would have you made test captain? Sarfraz is finished as a player and Rizwan deserved the chance. So there wasn't any options. I don't want Babar to be captain just yet because there will be too much pressure. They should make Babar captain in 2-3 years though.

I can pretty much ask does Azhar Ali warrant a place in the Pakistan team compared to Sarfaraz,

by the way Sarfaraz average in 2019 is 24.12 as captain compared to Azhar Ali which is 21.7 after he did this century where Abid Ali had already brought Pakistan in a winning lead of over 221 by the time Azhar came. Before it Azhar Ali was averaging 12 and Sarfaeraz bats at #5 or #6 while Azhar is a opt order player. Many youngsters were thrown out of the team to save this joke Azhar and still he is being retained .
 
[MENTION=151482]ZamanFan[/MENTION] , why so much hate for an individual? He just selected a top team and the strategy used made us win, yet you're here whining in your typical fashion about things that aren't true. Learn to appreciate good things and celebrate victories.

Right now captaincy options are too limited. In fact nobody feasible. Babar can't be burdened with captaincy right now, at least in the next couple of years. Shan's spot isn't confirmed, Haris out of form, Shafiq is old, who is left.

Only Rizwan left but don't think he can be a captain.

From bowlers it could be Shaheen or Naseem. We haven't seen bowler captains in a long time though. Can't play every match either.
 
That's only decent thing misbah has said since becoming coach. hope he implements it too

Let go of the past grudges. You'll see a lot of good things. Look, I know you from a long time ago on this forum and you used to hate him back in the day as well, so it's just a continuation. You can see a lot of positives, and at least much better than Arthur if you let go of the grudge.
 
*A few hours later*

Misbah: I've decided that Babar will be groomed for captaincy


Hawkeye:

giphy.gif


:yk :broad

:)))

Have to accept, that did make me chuckle! :))

I don't think Babar is the right option right now, I value his contributions too much. Root suffered because of captaincy as well.

If we can't find anyone decent, he can be an option in 2-3 years. But ideally we should look for someone else. But then again if we want him to captain in 3 years he needs to learn as a VC all this time. Not too sure about that.
 
:)))

Have to accept, that did make me chuckle! :))

I don't think Babar is the right option right now, I value his contributions too much. Root suffered because of captaincy as well.

If we can't find anyone decent, he can be an option in 2-3 years. But ideally we should look for someone else. But then again if we want him to captain in 3 years he needs to learn as a VC all this time. Not too sure about that.
I’m in a good mood, and I don’t want to argue about Misbah.

I agree with you about Babar. I don’t think being the best player means that you should be the skipper.

But aside from Misbah issues, can you justify having as skipper a guy who is going to be 35 years old, who averaged 30 at the age of 33 and averaged 21 at the age of 34?

And who reached 20 in only 3 out of 11 Test innings in 2019.

Don’t you think that either Rizwan or Masood should be the skipper now?
 
[MENTION=132916]Junaids[/MENTION]

Shan will not be in the team in a couple of years. Will be further exposed soon. No way he can be the captain.

Rizwan has shown decent signs but don't see leadership qualities in him. If we have nobody else as a candidate he can be groomed as VC if he'd able to perform in the next couple of series as well.

The only choice right now in present scenario is the right one while we build and develop someone else as a VC. Has taken the burden off everyone else.
 
:)))

Have to accept, that did make me chuckle! :))

I don't think Babar is the right option right now, I value his contributions too much. Root suffered because of captaincy as well.

If we can't find anyone decent, he can be an option in 2-3 years. But ideally we should look for someone else. But then again if we want him to captain in 3 years he needs to learn as a VC all this time. Not too sure about that.

[MENTION=132916]Junaids[/MENTION]

Shan will not be in the team in a couple of years. Will be further exposed soon. No way he can be the captain.

Rizwan has shown decent signs but don't see leadership qualities in him. If we have nobody else as a candidate he can be groomed as VC if he'd able to perform in the next couple of series as well.

The only choice right now in present scenario is the right one while we build and develop someone else as a VC. Has taken the burden off everyone else.

I only see Shan Masood as a stopgap captain. But he’s got more international cricket ahead of him than Azhar Ali, surely?

To be honest, I’d have gone the Graeme Smith route and made Shadab Khan the Test skipper, but I accept that Misbah would never do that.

What made Misbah a viable captain was his relentlessly tough training regime which was an inspiration to all.

But the hardest trainer in this Pakistan Test team is actually Shan Masood. Not Azhar Ali!
 
I only see Shan Masood as a stopgap captain. But he’s got more international cricket ahead of him than Azhar Ali, surely?

To be honest, I’d have gone the Graeme Smith route and made Shadab Khan the Test skipper, but I accept that Misbah would never do that.

What made Misbah a viable captain was his relentlessly tough training regime which was an inspiration to all.

But the hardest trainer in this Pakistan Test team is actually Shan Masood. Not Azhar Ali!

You don't make someone averaging 25 the captain. Nothing to show for from the past, no safe slot, and no captaincy experience at the FC level.
 
You don't make someone averaging 25 the captain. Nothing to show for from the past, no safe slot, and no captaincy experience at the FC level.
There is a choice, isn’t there?

Azhar Ali will never average over 30 again in his life as a Test cricketer. That’s in the past.

The choice is between two guys whose last two Full Year averages were:

30 then 21

Or

42 then 40

When you view it that way, your criteria for the captaincy actually exclude Azhar Ali.

I’m in a good mood, and I’m happy to NOT bash Misbah.

I will charitably say that Misbah recognised that his leadership options were limited, and gave Azhar Ali a chance to salvage his Test career.

But sadly Misbah learned that Azhar is too far gone to be an international cricketer, and he only reached forty once in the seven innings he played under Misbah.
 
[MENTION=132916]Junaids[/MENTION], you can make anyone look good or bad over a span of 6-7 Test matches. It doesn't work like that.

Shan Masood doesn't deserve captaincy, no matter how you want to word it.

We have to develop a proper candidate who is quality and has a safe spot in the team. Let's agree to disagree because I won't argue over this further.
 
Let go of the past grudges. You'll see a lot of good things. Look, I know you from a long time ago on this forum and you used to hate him back in the day as well, so it's just a continuation. You can see a lot of positives, and at least much better than Arthur if you let go of the grudge.

I don't have any grudges but honestly misbah does not have any cricketing sense
Even in his playing days. I gave him credit where it's due but also going to criticize him where he's wrong. I wouldn't say he's better than Arthur, Arthur wasn't the best but he was way ahead of misbah.

It's a fact misbah didn't make the team on merit as a captain or a player, had it not been for salman butt misbah wouldn't even had been warming the bench.

It's also a fact misbah does not deserve the coaching role, he has no creditionals as a coach again it was an emergency decision and self selected

But it's also a fact you have always been a blind supporter, I'm not sure if that's because you don't have much cricketing sense or if you feel you owe him for keeping Pakistan team out of contraversies after 2010

Moving forward misbah definitely isn't the man to take Pakistan cricket team to higher level

I know we have won a test under him recently but it could have gone either way had we not won the toss and were batting on day 4 & 5 we would have not tasted this victory so no special powers from misbah.

Had this test been under Mickey the result would have been the same likewise had UAE test been under misbah we would have lost
Because we don't have those players anymore who use to win us matches in UAE.

Reality will hit us hard when we tour England and NewZealand it's better to accept our deficiencies and work hard for the tour of England and NewZealand so we could have some sort of chance to win some tests when we tour there instead of jumping up and down thinking we are world beaters just because we have beaten a Sri Lankan B team on the Flattest pitch and misbah has some sort of magical powers to win us tests Vs England and NewZealand.
 
[MENTION=134608]Hawkeye[/MENTION]

hahahaha the person who has personal hate for sarfaraz, contributing to threads like why sarfaraz is shouting , why Sarfaraz yawns, we need to gey rid of him suddenly become born again Pakistan fan and loyal backer.

I have stopped watching Pakistan team live cos of Misbah but my criticism isnever personal,you can check my post history and see if I've ever mentioned anything personal ever about him like you did against Sarfaraz.

Misbah is technically a curse and worst ever thing happened to Pakistan cricket after inzamam ul haq. Both are dictators and insecure. Both can do anything to get what they want. Poor strategist, defensive mentality and is scared of people outside his camp.

This excuse that we have limited options, who would be cqtaon just doesnt stick. Before abid Ali naysauers put down our domestic performers to help p****i losers in the team. Now theyve started again if not axhar than who there are a lot of options in domestic outside of shan masood and babar but misbahdoesnt want captain he wants a weak insecure guy who obeys whatever misbah says.
 
Thanks for vindicating my point, [MENTION=135492]emranabbas[/MENTION] and [MENTION=151482]ZamanFan[/MENTION] , by writing another hate mongering post. Never seen such grudges and hatred before. I wish this hate isn't present in real life. Enjoy!
 
Thanks for vindicating my point, [MENTION=135492]emranabbas[/MENTION] and [MENTION=151482]ZamanFan[/MENTION] , by writing another hate mongering post. Never seen such grudges and hatred before. I wish this hate isn't present in real life. Enjoy!

Hehehe yeah when you commented on Sarfaraz, always thought why this poster has so much hatred and personal malice against our captain.Thankfully other posters know you better than me so its tough to accept your vindication.
 
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