What are your thoughts on these conspiracy theories?

[Shah]

Who killed John F. Kennedy?
Who killed Zia ul Haq?
Do aliens exist?
What happened to Malaysia Airlines Flight MH370?
9/11 covered-up?
Any other favourite ones?

 

[sweep_shot]

I believe CIA possibly killed John F. Kennedy. I don't believe in official story.

I don't know much about Zia-ul-Haq as I am not a Pakistani.

There is no proof of aliens but I believe in jinns and angels. They show up sometimes and people probably end up calling them aliens.

I believe MH370 was possibly crashed deliberately. I don't know who did it but main pilot is a key suspect.

I believe 9/11 was possibly an inside job.

I also believe there is possibly a sinister deep state. It is a global cabal.

 

[saeedhk]

A few other ones:

-Polio vaccine is a conspiracy to sterilise Muslims

-COVID-19 is spread by big pharmas to earn money

-OBL was actually an American

-Malala was never shot

- Saddam is still alive

-Israel is responsible for terror in Pakistan

-The TTP are actually Hindus and Jews who have grown beards

-Bill Gates is antichrist

-Iran and Israel are actually best friends

 

[Mamoon]

Who killed John F. Kennedy?
Who killed Zia ul Haq?
Do aliens exist?
What happened to Malaysia Airlines Flight MH370?
9/11 covered-up?
Any other favourite ones?

Who killed JKF? - Fidel Castro
Who killed Zia? - CIA
Aliens do exist
MH370 was deliberately crashed into the sea by the captain
9/11 was not a cover-up

 

[IndoorCricket]

The biggest of all Fake moon landing and flat earth

 

[Robert]

Who killed John F. Kennedy?
Who killed Zia ul Haq?
Do aliens exist?
What happened to Malaysia Airlines Flight MH370?
9/11 covered-up?
Any other favourite ones?

1. Don’t know.
2. Don’t know
3. Yes, space is too big for life not to have evolved elsewhere but the gulf between the stars is too big for them to get to us
4. I think the pilot killed himself and took the passengers with him
5. No.

Most conspiracy theories are easily debunked due to a lack of evidence. They are not logical as instead of looking at the evidence and working to a reasonable conclusion, people decide what they want to have happened and ignore any contrary evidence.

Unfortunately we live in a stupid age. Anyone on YouTube can make a convincing looking documentary and the algorithm feeds you more and more of the same. People are not taught to think critically a bout information they are given, only how to pass exams. So we get people believing nonsense about vaccines instead of taking time to understand the science.

 

[CricketCartoons]

Most conspiracy theories are easily debunked due to a lack of evidence. They are not logical as instead of looking at the evidence and working to a reasonable conclusion, people decide what they want to have happened and ignore any contrary evidence.

Some conspiracy theories have proven to be true, but it is used to validate other conspiracy theories. When the ratio of true conspiracy theories to the false ones will be very low.

 

[Thunderbolt14]

1. JFK — the CIA. Conflicting motives on how to deal with the USSR and JFK’s hotline with Khruschev. Not hardline enough. Vietnam. Oswald was one of two shooters, made to be the patsy. Murdered by the mob before he could speak in court about his actions.

2. Zia — the Soviets. Perfect circumstances to eliminate a close US ally and strong military presence, in light of the Afghan war, paving the way for a more socialist leader to come to power — the daughter of the Soviet-friendly Zulfiqar Ali Bhutto and the person leading the joint pro-Leninist coalition between the PPP and the Awami National Party (the “Movement for the Restoration of Democracy”).

3. Aliens — statistically speaking, yes they should indeed exist. Probably not anywhere in the vicinity of our solar system.

4. MH370 — never followed the case much, but I would assume a thunderstorm. People used to think the Bermuda triangle was haunted by aliens — now we realize there are scientific explanations and natural phenomena that can cause these things. That’s the most likely scenario, any theory on the pilot taking the aircraft with them is purely speculative and imaginative (still possible, but there is no reason to believe this was the case).

5. 9/11 — a horrible tragedy, no conspiracy here. It’s exactly what we’ve been told. That may disappoint theorists, but there’s just no practical explanation as to how there might have been a cover up.

 

[WhenSultansBowled]

One of CIA/NRA/KKK killed JFK.
Like most dictators, Zia was killed by CIA.
Aliens do exist but are probably too far away, too advanced, too primitive or have decided we are not worth it.
Unfortunately the flight is in bottom of sea.
9/11 like the proceeding "weapons of mass destruction" war was a false flag attack and further elaborated marketing campaign only confirms it.

Any other "favourite" ones?

Global elite pedophile ring.
NSA/Big corporations spying on consumers.

 

[Pakpak]

The MH flight one the pilot killed himself. I am baffled why the Malaysians never admit it. There were two simulated plane journeys found at his house where he took the same route the plane did suggesting he actually knew what he was doing and whatever he did at those altitudes every passenger would have passed out.

There was LONG investigation report on this so someone can Google it. It's a good read.

 

[TSA321]

A few other ones:

-Polio vaccine is a conspiracy to sterilise Muslims

-COVID-19 is spread by big pharmas to earn money

-OBL was actually an American

-Malala was never shot

- Saddam is still alive

-Israel is responsible for terror in Pakistan

-The TTP are actually Hindus and Jews who have grown beards

-Bill Gates is antichrist

-Iran and Israel are actually best friends

You’ve got one heck of an imagination dude...

 

[Technics 1210]

Isreal - the one conspiracy that gave rise to most popular conspiracies theories mentioned already.

Remember, Iraq 2003 was all true, yet you have sheep who still believe and trust the government.

 

[saeedhk]

You’ve got one heck of an imagination dude...

Almost all of them are believed by 90% of Pakistanis.

 

[Technics 1210]

Almost all of them are believed by 90% of Pakistanis.

Not forgetting fuelled by your hatered of Pakistan. Figures, you couldn't list one worldwide conspiracy but had to focus on what Pakistanis believe.

Stockholm syndrome indeed.

 

[UP]

The MH flight one the pilot killed himself. I am baffled why the Malaysians never admit it. There were two simulated plane journeys found at his house where he took the same route the plane did suggesting he actually knew what he was doing and whatever he did at those altitudes every passenger would have passed out.

There was LONG investigation report on this so someone can Google it. It's a good read.

Where are the remains of the planes and humans? That’s the most baffling aspect of this tragedy. Where did it vanish? It’s easy to say pilot crashed deliberately and so on.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

No comment on those specific conspiracies mentioned in OP but would just like to give a thumbs up for the concept of conspiracy theories in general. As many of you may already know, I am a big fan of conspiracy theories and I think they are hugely undervalued. If it wasn't for us healthy sceptics we would all be swallowing every cock and bull story governments/media feed us.

 

[Mamoon]

Where are the remains of the planes and humans? That’s the most baffling aspect of this tragedy. Where did it vanish? It’s easy to say pilot crashed deliberately and so on.

A part of the plane debris was recovered. I am no aviation expert but I believe it must have crashed at very high speed, higher than most crashes, likely because it was pilot suicide, and thus disintegrated into very small fragments that are very hard to pick up with radars etc.

In 2009, Air France floated out of the sky because the plane stalled due to pilot error, and even in that crash, it took 3-4 years to find the wreckage.

 

[Technics 1210]

A part of the plane debris was recovered. I am no aviation expert but I believe it must have crashed at very high speed, higher than most crashes, likely because it was pilot suicide, and thus disintegrated into very small fragments that are very hard to pick up with radars etc.

In 2009, Air France floated out of the sky because the plane stalled due to pilot error, and even in that crash, it took 3-4 years to find the wreckage.

Ask yourself why every aircraft is tracked via ACS, but not this flight? Amreeka can track a missile launch but not a commercial flight?

As for Air France floating out the sky, this has to be a typo since your team were out for 36. I will help you out in your time of need. The wreckage of AF crash was found after almost 2 years and the cause was faulty peto tubes (Google it). The difference between the Air France crash and Malaysia crash is that the black box was found for the Air France crash. Oh, the tail floated up, and one of the black boxes is always in the tail.

Saying this, Air France crash has no bearing since the Black Box for MH flight was never found.

It's been a hard day for you. Take a rest.

 

[Mamoon]

Ask yourself why every aircraft is tracked via ACS, but not this flight? Amreeka can track a missile launch but not a commercial flight?

As for Air France floating out the sky, this has to be a typo since your team were out for 36. I will help you out in your time of need. The wreckage of AF crash was found after almost 2 years and the cause was faulty peto tubes (Google it). The difference between the Air France crash and Malaysia crash is that the black box was found for the Air France crash. Oh, the tail floated up, and one of the black boxes is always in the tail.

Saying this, Air France crash has no bearing since the Black Box for MH flight was never found.

It's been a hard day for you. Take a rest.

You sound like an aviation expert because you are using fancy terms, but considering it’s you, and you are wrong about pretty much everything, I wouldn’t trust what you are saying.

As I said, I am no aviation expert I don’t know what ACS is and I won’t even Google because I am not bothered. Similarly, I knew what peto tubes are because it was mentioned in the Air France documentary, but I don’t remember now and again, I won’t Google.

I remember in the documentary where they did mention that the peto tube sensors provided incorrect reading because they were covered with ice, and as a result, the plane stalled.

I have seen enough air crash docs to know, in layman terms, what pilots are supposed to do when the plane stalls. You are supposed to increase the speed and pitch the nose down so that the plane recovers.

Another issue as mentioned by Cpt. Sully (the Hudson River landing pilot) is the way the controls work on Airbus. There are two joystick like things (again, don’t know what they are called) that are used to maneuver the plane and they work independently.

Air France had two co-pilots and one of them was doing the right thing by pitching the nose down while the other pilot was pitching it up, and that is why the plane couldn’t recover from the stall.

When the captain woke up from his nap, he threw a few expletives at the pilots and told them to pitch the nose down, but then it was too late to recover.

So there was both mechanical error and pilot error. The pilots got faulty readings, but the lack of communication between the two and the panic of one pilot meant that they failed to get the plane out of the stall.

 

[Pakpak]

Where are the remains of the planes and humans? That’s the most baffling aspect of this tragedy. Where did it vanish? It’s easy to say pilot crashed deliberately and so on.

???? The theory is and the data from the pilots simulator at his house shows he took the plane south and beyond towards the open sea and absolutely no chance of the plane being found. It's not easy to say at all but it's what seems logical. The plane took the exact route before it got lost which was found on the simulators at his place. There's more evidence that I forget now which showed the passengers were passed out. Read the report and then decide for yourself.

 

[ElRaja]

Who killed John F. Kennedy?
Who killed Zia ul Haq?
Do aliens exist?
What happened to Malaysia Airlines Flight MH370?
9/11 covered-up?
Any other favourite ones?

1. most likely the mafia, or some elements of the criminal underworld
2. given the size of the universe, its highly likely, but not completely certain
3. pilot suicide
4. yes, scale of cover up is debatable

 

[Markhor]

1) Not sure. Don't fully subscribe to theory from some liberals that JFK was a peaceloving dove struck down by CIA hawks. JFK ran to the right of Nixon in the 1960 Election re: the Cold War and significantly increased US presence in Vietnam. But Warren Commission was highly flawed.

2) Whoever did it, did Pakistan a favour but my guess is the Shia pilot, angry after the murder of Shia leader Ariful Hussaini days earlier.

A report appearing in London’s Sunday Times titled “Pakistan’s Dr Nuke bids for the Presidency”, (August 24, 2008) by Simon Henderson revealed: “Khan’s activities give a new explanation for the crash of President Zia’s C-130 plane in 1988…. Wing Commander Mash’hood Hassan, the plane’s pilot, had also been flying Khan’s centrifuge equipment to China. On one such trip he confided in a colleague of Khan that he hated Zia, holding him responsible for the murder of a local religious leader [Ariful Hussaini]: “The day Zia flies with me, that will be his last flight”.” Hardly 10 days after Hussaini’s murder, on August 17, 1988, his co-pilot, Sajid, had told his mother he was going to do something big as he left home.

3) Yes but not the ET variety.

4) Pilot suicide

5) Bush's incompetence was the main reason for 9/11, he ignored all the intelligence warnings as he was too lazy to do his job. They did cover up the Saudi role however for sure.

 

[Markhor]

One I'm intrigued by is the Lockerbie bombing.

Do people really still believe Megrahi did it ?

 

[Markhor]

Ojhri Camp ? Surely not a mere accident.

 

[Shah]

How can the mightiest cricket team of all time get out for just 36? I smell another conspiracy here.

 

[chacha kashmiri]

Jfk was possibly linked to malcolms death
Zia ul haq could have been linked to zufiqar
As for 9/11 it was done by the same people who tried to orchestrate the bombing in 1993 before al qaeda was officaly a movement and before the Tanzanian bombing by bin laden. All orchestred in balochistan between the Pakistan and Iran border
The links between Iran and al qaeda are stupendous considering one are khajirities and one are Rafidhis

 

[Giannis]

It's funny how conspiracy theories are easily "debunked" when it's about the west but any conspiracy theory about Russia, China or any eastern non-allied country is immediately assumed to be the truth and any counter argument is labelled "denialism".

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

It's funny how conspiracy theories are easily "debunked" when it's about the west but any conspiracy theory about Russia, China or any eastern non-allied country is immediately assumed to be the truth and any counter argument is labelled "denialism".

Those aren't conspiracies, at least not in the case of the UK. We British have always prided ourselves on having the fairest sports referees and umpires, the most honest police and judges, and the best literary and scientific minds in the world. Who else would the world trust to debunk eastern non-allied propaganda?

 

[Gharib Aadmi]

Who killed John F. Kennedy?
Who killed Zia ul Haq?
Do aliens exist?
What happened to Malaysia Airlines Flight MH370?
9/11 covered-up?
Any other favourite ones?

1 - Not sure, but there was definitely a cover up.
2 - The Establishment or the Soviets.
3 - Yes. There are billions or even trillions of galaxies out there. Each galaxy has billions of planets. No way that there is no other life form out there.
4- Tragic accident
5 - No

 

[Technics 1210]

You sound like an aviation expert because you are using fancy terms, but considering it’s you, and you are wrong about pretty much everything, I wouldn’t trust what you are saying.

As I said, I am no aviation expert I don’t know what ACS is and I won’t even Google because I am not bothered. Similarly, I knew what peto tubes are because it was mentioned in the Air France documentary, but I don’t remember now and again, I won’t Google.

I remember in the documentary where they did mention that the peto tube sensors provided incorrect reading because they were covered with ice, and as a result, the plane stalled.

I have seen enough air crash docs to know, in layman terms, what pilots are supposed to do when the plane stalls. You are supposed to increase the speed and pitch the nose down so that the plane recovers.

Another issue as mentioned by Cpt. Sully (the Hudson River landing pilot) is the way the controls work on Airbus. There are two joystick like things (again, don’t know what they are called) that are used to maneuver the plane and they work independently.

Air France had two co-pilots and one of them was doing the right thing by pitching the nose down while the other pilot was pitching it up, and that is why the plane couldn’t recover from the stall.

When the captain woke up from his nap, he threw a few expletives at the pilots and told them to pitch the nose down, but then it was too late to recover.

So there was both mechanical error and pilot error. The pilots got faulty readings, but the lack of communication between the two and the panic of one pilot meant that they failed to get the plane out of the stall.

Another pointless essay which didn't address the question. How can USA track missiles, but not a commercial airliner? Every commercial airliner is tracked, but lets go with your unsubstantiated claim that the pilot of the MH flight committed suicide. Bring me your evidence.

By the way you do trust what I say, you pretty much agreed with every point.

 

[JaDed]

Insane the amount of conspiracy theories that get passed on during election time in states:

Taylor Swift evil clone-Zeena Shrek

Trump - Project 2025

Trump: Immigrants Eating cats and dogs lol

Kate Middle conspiracy theories

 

[ElRaja]

when i was younger there was conspiracy theories about the illuminati, etc, groups of people who control the world etc, whilst i havnt seen any evidence of that, i have certainly seen people who operate completely outside of the system, pay no taxes, live whereever they want, have health and kids education competely outside the mainstream, are not beholden to any country, do not give a toss about mainstream politics.

on one level its a bit of a downer when u see ur paying 50+ % tax, on another its also aspirational to know if you work hard and smart enough, you can break out of the "matrix", for want of a better word. just need to do it before your too old to enjoy the freedom.

 

[JaDed]

when i was younger there was conspiracy theories about the illuminati, etc, groups of people who control the world etc, whilst i havnt seen any evidence of that, i have certainly seen people who operate completely outside of the system, pay no taxes, live whereever they want, have health and kids education competely outside the mainstream, are not beholden to any country, do not give a toss about mainstream politics.

on one level its a bit of a downer when u see ur paying 50+ % tax, on another its also aspirational to know if you work hard and smart enough, you can break out of the "matrix", for want of a better word. just need to do it before your too old to enjoy the freedom.

Financial Education , there are many in America who have achieved economic freedom by being ambitious, Europe is different it’s too closed a system to break out of for entrepreneurs.

Not sure if you have been following an Indian singer named Diljit Dosanjh he has embraced illumnati lol and called his tour Dil-Ilumanati

 

[sweep_shot]

I believe in certain conspiracy theories. I am not 100% sure but I think it is possible these are true. Here are these theories:

1) Illuminati - I believe there is possibly a group like that at the top. It is the elite deep state. It is also connected with Zionism, freemasonry, Skulls & Bones, Bohemian Grove, Rothschild family etc. These are all possibly connected. Big spider web.

2) UFO/Aliens - I believe these entities possibly exist and these are possibly demons/Jinns/spirit beings. Again, I believe they are somehow connected to illuminati group.

3) Pizzagate conspiracy theory - I looked it up and I feel this theory needs independent investigations. It has been debunked but it was debunked by those who were accused in the first place.

One strange thing about this theory is those strange Wikileaks emails. It seems like Podesta, Clinton etc. were talking in codes. Why would they do that using emails?

 

[ElRaja]

Financial Education , there are many in America who have achieved economic freedom by being ambitious, Europe is different it’s too closed a system to break out of for entrepreneurs.

Not sure if you have been following an Indian singer named Diljit Dosanjh he has embraced illumnati lol and called his tour Dil-Ilumanati

i know some ppl who went to his concert in London, i dont really listen to his songs, so dont know much about him.