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What do you think about Pink Ball and Day/Night Test cricket?

I still don't trust that pink color. No consistency in wear and tear. You can predict what red ball will look like in certain overs in given conditions and bowlers used. Pink ball has so far tricked me.
 
It is same for both the Teams .... but they continuesly have to mess with things .... doesn’t matter if it is good or bad ..... it has to be a different twist. Also, they always come up with some logical justification for it and stick it in the system. People put up with it ..... for the love of the game !!!!!
 
I just hope BCCI never agrees to this ridiculous Pink ball joke, not to mention D/N test will never be feasible in India as it will negate spin bowling because of dew. India should continue to play traiditional red ball test.
BCCI havent openly accepted or rejected the proposal but one can wonder that they aren't keen on it, otherwise im sure ECB would've like to host one of the test match as D/N encounter next year when they host India tor 5 match series.
 
I just hope BCCI never agrees to this ridiculous Pink ball joke, not to mention D/N test will never be feasible in India as it will negate spin bowling because of dew. India should continue to play traiditional red ball test.
BCCI havent openly accepted or rejected the proposal but one can wonder that they aren't keen on it, otherwise im sure ECB would've like to host one of the test match as D/N encounter next year when they host India tor 5 match series.

ECB wouldn't have been keen on hosting one next summer as they wouldn't have fit in with the foreign TV markets.
 
ECB wouldn't have been keen on hosting one next summer as they wouldn't have fit in with the foreign TV markets.

If it means targetting Indian audience then it wouldn't matter. There is hardly any Indian public that watch test matches :misbah
 
absolutely not.it takes the reverse swing and spin away so very little advantages for asian teams..asian should not play day and night tests..
 
I just hope BCCI never agrees to this ridiculous Pink ball joke, not to mention D/N test will never be feasible in India as it will negate spin bowling because of dew. India should continue to play traiditional red ball test.
BCCI havent openly accepted or rejected the proposal but one can wonder that they aren't keen on it, otherwise im sure ECB would've like to host one of the test match as D/N encounter next year when they host India tor 5 match series.

Not much dew in South India, especially in Summer. We can play day night test just fine in Chennai, Kochi, Vizag, Hyderabad and Bangalore just fine.
 
Another day/night test done and dusted - has it changed anyone’s mind?

I'm in favour. Captains have to bear in mind that the match is Day/Nighter and batting can be hard in the final session so it tests the abilities/tactics well.
 
It's a work in progress but we have come a long way from the apprehension that greeted the concept 2 years ago. I think it's definitely here to stay. Don't see the point of having day-night test matches in Dubai though.
 
It's been exciting to watch. The pink ball seems to be more durable than the red kookaburra and more responsive, likely has extra coating. Bairstow said it felt a lot harder than the normal.

SA need to start as well. They have the pitches for it.
 
Financially it seems to be good as there will be more viewers on TV. From the game's perspective it adds a new variable to the equation: playing under lights. Right now the strategy is a bit monotonous. Be careful for the first hour of play every morning, pitch deteriorates on day 4 and 5 so bat first if you win the toss unless it's as green as a lawn, declare after tea. It'll be interesting to see how teams handle this new variable now. It makes the game a bit more exciting because how the pitch will play under lights is condition dependent. There can't an 'applies to all' strategy. This can have an effect on team composition as well as declaration strategies. I'm against phasing out the full day test though. It should remain as the primary option.
 
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Financially it seems to be good as there will be more viewers on TV. From the game's perspective it adds a new variable to the equation: playing under lights. Right now the strategy is a bit monotonous. Be careful for the first hour of play every morning, pitch deteriorates on day 4 and 5 so bat first if you win the toss unless it's as green as a lawn, declare after tea. It'll be interesting to see how teams handle this new variable now. It makes the game a bit more exciting because how the pitch will play under lights is condition dependent. There can't an 'applies to all' strategy. This can have an effect on team composition as well as declaration strategies. I'm against phasing out the full day test though. It should remain as the primary option.

The only thing is that it won't work in all countries.

UAE day/night Tests haven't been great so far.
 
It looks good but this increases luck factor in cricket when toss already plays a key part in the outcome of a game. The team which gets more batting under lights in Australia usually gets a disadvantage where as bowling under lights in UAE, subcontinent becomes difficult as it becomes harder to reverse the ball.
There are also some visibility issues with pink ball at night.

I'm satisfied as long as it remains a secondary option to day tests. Maybe, 1 in 5 tests at this stage is tolerable.
 
The only thing is that it won't work in all countries.

UAE day/night Tests haven't been great so far.

Yes I agree. But TV ratings didn't improve? Turn out at the stadium might not increase much as not many people would want to spend their evenings in a stadium watching test cricket :). I was just trying to say anything that makes our dying format more exciting/pulls more people should be tried/experimented with.
 
Yes I agree. But TV ratings didn't improve? Turn out at the stadium might not increase much as not many people would want to spend their evenings in a stadium watching test cricket :). I was just trying to say anything that makes our dying format more exciting/pulls more people should be tried/experimented with.

I was basically agreeing with your initial post and adding a point. :)

Anything that's increasing viewership should of course be considered. Unlike four-day Tests, I think D/N Test cricket has potential.
 
I was basically agreeing with your initial post and adding a point. :)

Anything that's increasing viewership should of course be considered. Unlike four-day Tests, I think D/N Test cricket has potential.

Yeah. Four day Tests would be the final nail on Test cricket's coffin. Let's just hope they drop that idea. Looking forward to more day-night test matches.
 
It has potential no doubt. The good thing about DN cricket in Australia is that people in the UK can tune in. Want it to be experimented in NZ and South Africa next.

Should keep DN cricket away from the UAE though.
 
I disagree with people who don't think it should be held in UAE. It may not increase crowds that much but it could increase TV figures as people can watch it after work. Also, UAE can be incredibly hot during the day and let's not forget the first day night Test between WI and Pakistan was a classic.
 
Concerns raised over 'soft' pink ball ahead of Perth day-night Test

The manufacturer of the pink ball used for day-night Tests in Australia has defended its product amid fresh concerns over its durability.

Australia A seamer Sean Abbott said the ball had gone "soft" as Pakistan's batsmen, who traditionally struggle on the bouncier conditions on these shores, scored heavily in their first long-form game of the tour.

But Kookaburra claim there is little difference from the ball used last season, saying the surface had played a bigger factor in the ball wearing.

The Australia A game at Perth's Optus Stadium is not only a dress rehearsal for Test aspirants, but also for the pink ball to be used for the first time at the venue next month.

Australia has hosted Tests under lights at the Adelaide Oval and the Gabba in Brisbane, but not at Perth's new stadium.

Kookaburra has made several changes to the pink ball, which copped plenty of criticism over its durability and visibility leading to its unveiling for cricket's first day-night Test four years ago.

The latest feedback is at odds with the pink ball's reputation for being bowler-friendly, particularly during twilight when the new ball tends to swing more as floodlights take over from natural light.

"The pink ball got a bit soft as it tends to do over here," Abbott said. "If we were able to bowl a harder ball for longer periods we would have produced a lot more opportunities."

Kookaburra has come under fire before for its traditional red ball, most notably in 2015 after several replacements were needed during the Perth Test against New Zealand. One new ball lasted just three deliveries.

Curators in Adelaide and Brisbane have tailored their Test strips by leaving on extra grass to slow down the deterioration of the pink ball.

An extra pressure for curators at Perth Stadium is CA's goal for pitches this year to earn a rating of "good" or "very good". It was rated "average", the lowest pass mark, last year by the International Cricket Council after a match where batsmen were struck due to uneven bounce.

A spokesman for Kookaburra said the ball deteriorated more on a flat wicket.

"The pink balls to be used in Test and first-class matches this summer have minimal difference to last summer where balls showed improved resilience from previous season," Kookaburra said.

"As we say with all balls, but particularly the pink ball, the pitch plays the most important part in determining the way a match is played and how the ball naturally deteriorates.

"From reports it seems like the track was quite flat so naturally that's going to mean a different rate of deterioration than on a green seaming wicket.

"The last pink ball Test in Australia was in Brisbane earlier in the year where teams made totals of 144, 139 and 323, and there wasn't any discussion around the ball's hardness at that Test.

"Of course, good batting by Pakistan might be a simple explanation too."

https://www.smh.com.au/sport/cricke...-of-perth-day-night-test-20191112-p539z7.html
 
Yasir and Shaheen scoring would point that way but then again i would be accused of bias, degrading Pak batsmen etc. So never mind.
 
Yasir and Shaheen scoring would point that way but then again i would be accused of bias, degrading Pak batsmen etc. So never mind.

Well they outscored all but one of Australias batting, which included Khawaja, burns and head all capable test batsmen so its all in the perception
 
Speaking from experience, It's way harder to hit the soft ball as compared to the harder bowl. So I find it hard to believe that the softer ball helps the batsmen score more
 
Also Yasir and Shaheen didn't face an old ball. The ball was still semi new when they batted.
 
Lol if the ball was so soft, why didn't the Australia A batsmen capitalize?
 
To be completely honest, the Perth curator has followed the Brisbane one in experimenting with leaving the wicket a bit less green than is usually the case at Adelaide.

And the furore will probably lead to Adelaide being left greener again. Which helps create a lower scoring match....which is the only way Pakistan can win.
 
Well they outscored all but one of Australias batting, which included Khawaja, burns and head all capable test batsmen so its all in the perception

Ball going soft on a relatively bouncier pitch is same as a flat SC pitch. Or maybe the pitch is a typical Perth pitch of late, flat one. Pak bowlers are better equipped to handle those scenarios than the inexperienced Aussie fringe ones. Again, I am not taking credit away from the batsmen.
 
Of course ball was soft.. ball turns too much in India..hotel rooms are upside..the whinging of SEA countries(excluding NZ) is endless.its like we are white..we can’t be beaten by browns so they must have manipulated something....may be their skills are not up to the mark.hopefully padosis give them a phainta to remember.
 
Pink Ball Tests watch

Can we log the happenings of pink tests here. It looks like a lot of different than conventional red cherry tests. Ball was swinging crazy in the 2nd session. Bowlers struggled in the third session (atleast in India). First session was like regular Test match. And also 5 batsmen got smashed on their head. I won't say it is because of pink ball. Probably poor technique. But it didn't happen in the first Test. So there is that. Ball just races off of the bat in the last session. Even a touch gets you a 4.

This is going to be interesting at the Adelaide oval. Both teams lack genuine out and out swing bowler. But that is more dangerous as small natural swing will be more dangerous than prodigious swing.
 
absolutely not. do not change the original format. Pink ball makes fodder players look like wasim akram when in reality those said players are more like a rahat ali.
 
It's the future, batting will be tough under lights. Only drawback i see is spinners role will be less compared to traditional ones.
 
Not very fond of this. Mediocre trundlers look really good with this ball. Kohli is spot on. Pink ball tests should not become the norm.
 
You cannot huge crowds and TRP's with traditional tests anymore outside ENG.

I doubt we can draw huge crowds with pink ball tests either in the long run. We just need to identify the venues where test crowds can be drawn and play tests during the October/November when there are puja/Diwali holidays and market them properly. I don't mind 1 pink ball test per season. But anything more is overkill.
 
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