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What exactly are some of the professionals in Pakistan cricket being paid for?

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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Players having to go abroad for coaching.<br>Players having to go abroad for fitness & advice on diet.<br>Players having to go abroad for injury recovery.<br>What exactly are some of the 'professionals' in Pakistan cricket getting paid for?<br>New PCB regime needs to sort this out.<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Cricket?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Cricket</a></p>— Saj Sadiq (@Saj_PakPassion) <a href="https://twitter.com/Saj_PakPassion/status/1082346486535516162?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 7, 2019</a></blockquote>
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Lol, I wont be surprised to hear that PCB employees don't have appraisals
 
I wish my job was as easy as Grant Flower... 4-5 years with zero performance and no accountability with hefty pay cheque.
 
Several players in the last year or two have had to go abroad to get injuries sorted out when they were given incorrect advice by PCB 'experts'. Some of those players careers nearly ended due to the incompetency of PCB 'experts'.
 
I wish my job was as easy as Grant Flower... 4-5 years with zero performance and no accountability with hefty pay cheque.

Don’t think one of our bats have truly improved under him. Pathetic that he still has a job.
 
I wish my job was as easy as Grant Flower... 4-5 years with zero performance and no accountability with hefty pay cheque.

His contract is due to expire after the 2019 WC
 
Pakistan is not going to win another world cup. Maro my words. Every team has got professional setups now, Pakistan will be fighting against Sri Lanka, West Indies , Afghanistan and Bangladesh while India, England, new Zealand and Australia fight for the trophy
 
Long after the world is wiped out by nuclear holocaust, from the pcb buildings will emerge a brave few who survived everything: wasim bari, Haroon Rashid, Iqbal Qassim, intikhab alam, dr tauseef.
 
Several players in the last year or two have had to go abroad to get injuries sorted out when they were given incorrect advice by PCB 'experts'. Some of those players careers nearly ended due to the incompetency of PCB 'experts'.

Saj, we both know the doctor who helped this particular player...and we know of the person whose incompetence nearly ended that playe: career.

The PCB is a shambles
 
Long after the world is wiped out by nuclear holocaust, from the pcb buildings will emerge a brave few who survived everything: wasim bari, Haroon Rashid, Iqbal Qassim, intikhab alam, dr tauseef.

Why not including Grant Flower?

Many players have come and gone, Flower still remains. Fat paycheck, dream job.
 
Why not including Grant Flower?

Many players have come and gone, Flower still remains. Fat paycheck, dream job.

Flower was around for misbah and younis as well and they did fine. They credited him and so did Azhar and shafiq when they had their moments. Who should take credit babar Azam’s development?
I suppose we could appoint Basit Ali (placeholder for any bitter ex-cricketer) before a year long schedule that consists exclusively of playing Bangladesh, West Indies, and Sri Lanka and claim vindication until the three year cycle of playing tough countries shows up again and we are back to square one.

I should add that flower should get credit for our batting in Australia as well.

My opinion is that the batting coach can’t help you with mental frailties.
 
I worry about the so-called high performance NCA.

A thorough review of what is happening there and the people working there needs to be done.
 
I worry about the so-called high performance NCA.

A thorough review of what is happening there and the people working there needs to be done.

Mushtaq Ahmed was the head coach of NCA and Muddi Pa i.e. Mudassar Nazar is in charge of the Academies overall, he was heralded as a wonderful appointment in 2016, I wonder what he has to show for so many inefficiencies at the NCA
 
Flower was around for misbah and younis as well and they did fine. They credited him and so did Azhar and shafiq when they had their moments. Who should take credit babar Azam’s development?
I suppose we could appoint Basit Ali (placeholder for any bitter ex-cricketer) before a year long schedule that consists exclusively of playing Bangladesh, West Indies, and Sri Lanka and claim vindication until the three year cycle of playing tough countries shows up again and we are back to square one.

I should add that flower should get credit for our batting in Australia as well.

My opinion is that the batting coach can’t help you with mental frailties.

If a batting coach can't help with this then he shouldn't be there and shouldn't be getting paid unnecessarily then, give it to someone else who is willing to take on the responsibility of making a positive difference to the team's batting
 
If a batting coach can't help with this then he shouldn't be there and shouldn't be getting paid unnecessarily then, give it to someone else who is willing to take on the responsibility of making a positive difference to the team's batting

I dont know if it's the batting coaches job to teach cricketers how to deal with mental adversity, do you?
 
I dont know if it's the batting coaches job to teach cricketers how to deal with mental adversity, do you?

His job is certainly to take responsibility for improving the teams batting results for which he has been an utter failure, when you fail at your job for a decent amount of time, no one cares how hard you work behind the scenes, you get shown the door.

The team is better off hiring a psychiatrist or psychologist then.
 
I doubt a batting coach is going to make too much difference to a player in his early 20’s...
 
His job is certainly to take responsibility for improving the teams batting results for which he has been an utter failure, when you fail at your job for a decent amount of time, no one cares how hard you work behind the scenes, you get shown the door.

The team is better off hiring a psychiatrist or psychologist then.

So many contradictions in the post. Useless to engage
 
These baboos don't want to work. The PCB is a gravy train from which you pick up salaries for doing nothing.
 
I think Grant Flower might be producing some results at times, but what really hurting is his inefficiency as a leader. He almost conceded that Asad And Azhar will lead the way, but that is not happening. These guys can not sustain the pressure as a leader[ prime example Azhar Ali captaincy tenure] They are happy to be sticking to themselves. I think thats what team management needs to do, ask them perform for yourself, and should fine some one else Babar, or any other person to be a batting leader.

1) Tell me one thing , are Indian batters of today are product of Ravi Shastri, Sanjay Bangar coaching or are they product of their own?

2) So if coaches do not have much impact then why we need them?
To help team remain focussed, help them do their trainings, help them to strategize, help them and make them aware of match situation from the outside view, help them to get the result as a team not as an individual.

3) Then why not hire local greats?
The politics they bring, ego issues they carry, differences with some members in the team, in-fighting, agendas, etc.
That is why needed a DANDA master like Mickey, which I think was totally right.

4) Then why poor results to show?
We can not go hard on team every time, for most of them this is their first tour to south africa. Team is pretty new. Except for Azhar and Asad who has played more than 40 test matches? None.
And if we look at the South Africa side, they have Amla, Elgar, Du Plesis, Steyn, Philander, DeKock [many are playing international cricket for at least 8 years or more]

We had the moments in the series, unfortunately because of experience we could not cash in. This is what learning is, to learn from mistakes, not to keep repeating it.

5) Why not bring domestic performers, then?
Except for very few, many are not even at that level. Time and again they failed miserably. Can any one forget how many chances Akmals got, how many chances Khurram Manzoor got? What did they achieve during their playing days?

6) So does that mean, everything was right? Absolutely not?
Team management and selectors really need to answer few questions:

--Why we are still struggling to find good opening pair in any format?
--What Imam is doing in the team? He is technically deficient, and don't have numbers in test cricket?
--Why Saad Ali and Salahuddin dropped?
--Now we do not even have front line seamer? After his return, except for 1/2 notable performances, he is mediocre at best. Can team management look beyond him?
--Why Shadab Khan, Haris Sohail, Imad wasim keep getting injured?
 
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