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So what should happen if at some point in the future Mohammad Amir changes his mind and wants to play for Pakistan again?

Has he had enough chances and shouldn't be picked again?

Or should he be given a chance once again?
 
Two years down the line If he’s firing on all cylinders & making a real impact in domestic scene & most importantly shows real desire to represent his country then his services should be used if NEEDED
 
With SSA our first choice & Usman Shinwari waiting in the wings & also Akif hopefully making a swift recovery ,that’s 3 lefties ,we might not need him at all..
 
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There's room for him in all formats.

In fact if he can operate at 140 and find that late swing again he'll be the first name on the team sheet.
 
Saj said:
So what should happen if at some point in the future Mohammad Amir changes his mind and wants to play for Pakistan again?

Has he had enough chances and shouldn't be picked again?

Or should he be given a chance once again?
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First, he’ll have to apologize to ICC and all the other people who wished him a happy retirement!
 
It’s pretty easy for Amir. Amir just need one pak team tour of Australia. All the fans and certain ex cricketers will be demanding his return to the team.
 
The ball is in PCB’s court, Amir doesn’t need to do anything. In fact, this will mean that Amir could be the richest Pakistani cricketer ever if he gets picked in the IPL.
 
jino said:
It’s pretty easy for Amir. Amir just need one pak team tour of Australia. All the fans and certain ex cricketers will be demanding his return to the team.
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Why? Amir himself averaged near 50 in Aus.
 
didnt he say he is not willing to play under THIS management.... so if management changes, voila...
 
YousafTheBeast said:
The ball is in PCB’s court, Amir doesn’t need to do anything. In fact, this will mean that Amir could be the richest Pakistani cricketer ever if he gets picked in the IPL.
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There should be no coming back Hes the one retired Pcb dont have to do anything apart from wishing him a happy retirement
 
Saj said:
So what should happen if at some point in the future Mohammad Amir changes his mind and wants to play for Pakistan again?

Has he had enough chances and shouldn't be picked again?

Or should he be given a chance once again?
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No, It will be stirring the excrement, and making it reek even more.

Even though it wasn't a graceful exit (which is already very rare in Pak players), we should let it go.

Amir may have had a few last flashes in the pan left, but they are not worth starting the reconciliation efforts and extending apologies etc.

Lets move on.
 
YousafTheBeast said:
The ball is in PCB’s court, Amir doesn’t need to do anything. In fact, this will mean that Amir could be the richest Pakistani cricketer ever if he gets picked in the IPL.
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Do you think T20 leagues will pick him considering his poor form and dead international career ?
Shaheen Afridi/Haris Rauf will be in demand. I haven't seen Amir playing in BBL so far. I think Amir overestimated himself. He tried to blackmail PCB but it backfired. Karma it is.
 
Sometimes the player who are not in the team looks better than the players playing especially if the results are not going in your away!!
 
Zaz said:
There should be no coming back Hes the one retired Pcb dont have to do anything apart from wishing him a happy retirement
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When Sami Aslam had retired he mentioned that PCB didn’t get in touch with him, when Amir retired PCB called him, probably tried to talk to him and persuade him to reverse his decision. Now that tells you how much the PCB value him.

Secondly, what do we gain from his retirement, he was already dropped so he wasn’t taking anyone’s place, it’s our loss not his.
 
Inevitably Amir will be back at some time because Misbah won't survive the continuing humiliation for long. I don't think he has any issue with Mani or Wasim Khan? Also M Wasim is his mentor/coach at Northern.

But Amir will never have that respect or love again from the majority of the fans. Some just watch cricket a few times in a year and will dance on his success, but most won't forget how he just gave up on Pak cricket thrice now.

I have been an Amir fan for long, but his attitude has been poor since 2019. You got guys like Fawad Alam and Tabish Khan who keep working hard despite knowing they won't get many chances and you got an Amir who isn't willing to cooperate if he isn't getting a special status within the team. If he had performed consistently in serious cricket none would have been able to ignore him considering the pressure and status of our media.
 
Cric_lover4487 said:
Do you think T20 leagues will pick him considering his poor form and dead international career ?
Shaheen Afridi/Haris Rauf will be in demand. I haven't seen Amir playing in BBL so far. I think Amir overestimated himself. He tried to blackmail PCB but it backfired. Karma it is.
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Literally every RCB fan wants Amir in the IPL because of his relationship with Kohli. If you look on SM, you’ll see Majority of Indians calling out PCB for there handling of Amir.

IPL franchises don’t care about form, they care about money. Think about how many shirts they’ll sell with Amir’s name. Think about how many Pakistani fans will tune in to watch Amir play in the IPL.
 
Lol. It is bound to happen in near future.
Pakistani cricketers and their tantrums never end.
Sana Mir threw a similar not playing under this management not long ago. She was back playing after a few months. Afridi did it like 10 times probably.
Pakistani cricketers retirements are like pro wrestling retirements. It's all a work.
 
I am a big Amir fan. But it is unfair to other players if Amir is offered a "free welcome" without performing in domestic cricket.

Amir should focus on T20 leagues to make some retirement money, YouTube channel, TV programs and then maybe coaching/cricket academy.
 
YousafTheBeast said:
Literally every RCB fan wants Amir in the IPL because of his relationship with Kohli. If you look on SM, you’ll see Majority of Indians calling out PCB for there handling of Amir.

IPL franchises don’t care about form, they care about money. Think about how many shirts they’ll sell with Amir’s name. Think about how many Pakistani fans will tune in to watch Amir play in the IPL.
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Indian Cricket probably doesn't care about how many Pakistanis are watching IPL. They are already making a lot.

If he does change his passport and throws in his name in the auction, then it's pretty certain he will get picked as he is one of the better bowlers of the shortest format.
 
He will play when the management is changed , that is what we can see from his statement.
 
YousafTheBeast said:
Literally every RCB fan wants Amir in the IPL because of his relationship with Kohli. If you look on SM, you’ll see Majority of Indians calling out PCB for there handling of Amir.

IPL franchises don’t care about form, they care about money. Think about how many shirts they’ll sell with Amir’s name. Think about how many Pakistani fans will tune in to watch Amir play in the IPL.
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I can speak for some diehard RCB fans and *none* of them care about Amir being in the RCB. Move on from the Champions trophy guys ... whilst it was a good win for Pak, it was but one win ...
 
bala977 said:
I can speak for some diehard RCB fans and *none* of them care about Amir being in the RCB. Move on from the Champions trophy guys ... whilst it was a good win for Pak, it was but one win ...
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Go to Twitter, search ‘Amir RCB’ and then you’ll know why I said what I said.
 
YousafTheBeast said:
Literally every RCB fan wants Amir in the IPL because of his relationship with Kohli. If you look on SM, you’ll see Majority of Indians calling out PCB for there handling of Amir.

IPL franchises don’t care about form, they care about money. Think about how many shirts they’ll sell with Amir’s name. Think about how many Pakistani fans will tune in to watch Amir play in the IPL.
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Amir has been buttering Kohli for quite sometime. In 2010, I had sympathy for Amir connsidering his age and humble background. Asif gave an interview at that time that Amir is a cunning and shrewd guy. He is not as innocent as you think. I thought he was just saving himself. But now i think he was right. Amir does have a criminal mindset. He lacks loyalty and character. He might go Ahzar Mahmood route and play IPL for 5-6 years.
 
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Don't know why some people have gone so overboard and think he'll be playing in the IPL. Even if it does ever happen, it won't be before 2-3 years at least if not more.
 
Amir isn't good enough. The stats speak for themselves. Just 39-40 good to decent performances out of 162 matches with the rest being avg, failures are unacceptable returns.

Glad the PCB showed him the finger and the door and how he has handled things since then testifies to the person that he really is.
 
Cric_lover4487 said:
Amir has been buttering Kohli for quite sometime. In 2010, I had sympathy for Amir connsidering his age and humble background. Asif gave an interview at that time that Amir is a cunning and shrewd guy. He is not as innocent as you think. I thought he was just saving his ***. But now i think he was right. Amir does have a criminal mindset. He lacks loyalty and character. He might go Ahzar Mahmood route and play IPL for 5-6 years.
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Amir was 17.

He came from a poor background.
If you go to any village in Pakistan and offer a 17 year old to commit a crime for £20K they will do it.

He was influenced by the CAPTAIN, the very person a youngster in the team looks up to. If I’m a 17 year old kid playing for Pakistan, I’m going to stay close to the captain of the team.

Salman Butt was clever, he along with Mazhar Majeed had planned this since the Aus series in England. They chose the most vulnerable player in the team to do the crime. Salman Butt being the coward that he is, didn’t do the spot fixing himself because he knew if they were to get caught he could throw Asif and Amir under the bus.
 
If a 37 year old Mohammad Irfan, with his atrocious fitness record, can be recalled to the national side after a 3.5 year absence (2019 Australia tour) there’s no reason why Amir can’t make his way back in years to come if he reverses his retirement.
 
I'm guessing that once he has to sit out the upcoming WT20 and miss being a part of a tournament that big, he's gonna un-retire and try to make it to the WT20 the following year.
 
Amir just retweeted a tweet of a kid asking Amir to take his retirement back. #AmirTakeRetirementBack


What a joke.
 
Thunderbolt14 said:
Amir just retweeted a tweet of a kid asking Amir to take his retirement back. #AmirTakeRetirementBack


What a joke.
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Never commented on any of these Amir threads as I always knew that this drama from Amir will only last for few days. If PCB have any balls, they would never take him back. Enough is enough and we must set an example here, but you know how PCB is. I will respect your Wasim Khan and PCB forever if they make this happen!
 
Amir is probably constantly refreshing his phone with baited breath waiting for some furore by the fans after Pakistan's losses to New Zealand.

Don't feed the troll.
 
Varun said:
Amir is probably constantly refreshing his phone with baited breath waiting for some furore by the fans after Pakistan's losses to New Zealand.

Don't feed the troll.
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I think that's a bit harsh. Probably has some genuine reasons for doing what he did.
 
Whilst Amir blames the team management, it will be interesting to see his stance if Misbah and Waqar do move on. Will he make himself available or still stay retired.
 
Amir has nothing performance in recent years, he is finished. Full stop. He is just awaiting his English citizenship and he will be history for everyone.
 
OmarKhan99 said:
I think that's a bit harsh. Probably has some genuine reasons for doing what he did.
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His 'genuine reason' is that he has discovered he can't make it into the team on pure merit alone, so he has to do this drama and go for the jugular to have some sort of a chance of remaining in the public eye of selection.
 
He'll be back under new management. Pakistani retirements are never permanent.
 
I think he wants to play in the IPL after obtaining British citizenship.

Financially it will be a huge boost for him and if he can play 2 or 3 seasons of IPL he will be made for life.
 
It's all about finding one more good bowler to accompany Shaheen Shah Afridi across all formats.

I have a gut feeling that it's gonna be Hasan Ali because he looks in serious touch at the moment.

Once we find that bowler, the call for Amir will diminish into a faint cry.

But it is Mohammad Wasim's duty to make sure that we have a good, healthy reserve of quicks so that our main bowlers do not get workload related injuries.

At the moment, the bowlers who I think should be included in our plans are:
Shaheen Shah Afridi, Haris Rauf, Naseem Shah, Mohammad Hasnain, Usman Khan Shinwari, Hasan Ali, Mohammad Musa, Mohammad Abbas, Faheem Ashraf, and anyone else deserving these chances.

Once Wahab Riaz stops performing, probably after the 2021 World Cup, we should immediately replace him with Shinwari in ODI, and replace Amir with Hasan Ali in ODI. Our T20I bowling lineup should be Shaheen, Haris, Hasnain.

For test matches, Hasan Ali should immediately replace Naseem Shah if he cannot perform in New Zealand.
 
Hopefully the PCB and future team managements do not have any change in heart
 
And Mohd Wasim btw has never been a huge fan of Amir, he felt Amir was being unnecessarily picked in hype, expectations rather than on actual performances
 
Whenever you apply for Citizenship to another country, one of the questions you have to answer is "Have you ever been convicted of a criminal offence in the country?".

Getting a temporary visit or work visa is one thing because it is known that you will eventually leave the country, what is the guarantee that the UK authorities will grant him citizenship?
 
Savak said:
Whenever you apply for Citizenship to another country, one of the questions you have to answer is "Have you ever been convicted of a criminal offence in the country?".

Getting a temporary visit or work visa is one thing because it is known that you will eventually leave the country, what is the guarantee that the UK authorities will grant him citizenship?
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His will get his UK citizenship.


I have a criminal record. Does this mean I will not be granted British citizenship?
Not necessarily. You must be considered to be of good character to be granted British citizenship and, as part of this assessment, UKVI will consider your criminal record and whether you abide by the laws of the UK.

You must disclose your full criminal record when applying for British citizenship if you are applying from England, Wales or Scotland. If you have been convicted of an offence and were sentenced to exactly four years’ imprisonment or longer, your application is likely to be refused.

If you were sentenced to anything less than four years, or given a non-custodial sentence, your application is likely to be refused until a certain period has elapsed:
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https://www.nacro.org.uk/criminal-r...to-the-uk-3/applying-for-british-citizenship/

He will be eligible for full citizenship 10 years after the end of his prison sentence (so 2022).
 
Aamir is more likely 30-31. People are delusional if they think hes going to get any better. This chapter needs to be closed for good .
 
Savak said:
And Mohd Wasim btw has never been a huge fan of Amir, he felt Amir was being unnecessarily picked in hype, expectations rather than on actual performances
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As if Mohd Wasim himself has been picked as chief selector on merit :P
 
He isn't going to come back. And if he does , it won't make a difference . He has been playing regularly for 3/4 years and we still are losing consistently to top teams even if Amir does his job.
 
Amir is a big match player, Pakistan team needs him badly at least till world cup 2023.
 
Will be embarrassing for the PCB and Pakistan Cricket if they have to desperately turn back to him
 
Don't think Amir will come back, as Saj mentioned his eyes are on an IPL contract after becoming Angrej :athers
 
Waqar would be kicked out in 2 months from the management team. Then Aamir will return.
 
I cant believe I supported this guys return.

In every team sport now and again you will have a head to head against managment but this doesnt mean you dump your country. This guy is far too arrogant, he's no ATG atm and now never will be.

If we could turn the clock back, he should never have been picked again like Asif. We would have won the CT final regardless of his wickets.
 
Heart change is very risky. A person can merely walk after that. Let bygones by bygones
 
Keep him out. He’s an ex convict who was lucky to be allowed a second chance.

Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me.
 
It would be another story if there's a change of management, they want him back and he still says no.
 
He is waiting for Misbah to leave.

Misbah's job depends on whether Pakistan reaches the final of Test Championship or not. Or atleast win the World t20.

If Misbah survives, Amir would be coming back as he won't stay back long.

If Misbah leaves, amir would be waiting for PCB to appraoch him. If he doesn't perform, he will blame Misbah that because he dint select him and he dint get to play international cricket, that is why he cant perform now.

Remember one thing, Amir blames others for his break from cricket.
 
If Amir comes back and performs, this will make Misbah unhirable for future coaching
 
Pacy with wisdom said:
My fellow pp'ers, Let's do an ijtemaai dua for that then.
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If it ends Misbah’s ‘head coaching career”, not that I wish this man has zero coaching opportunities or work opportunities in the future. Then yes please
 
Can Muhammad Amir make a come back?

I know he's now 38 and past his prime years and the PCB may not even be interested in granting him the same amnesty to him that they gave to Amir, however he's without a doubt one of the best and most talented bowlers Pakistan has produced in the past 20 years, I'd even rate him over Amir. I feel like he's done his time and has been criticized for his moral failings more than the other 2 guys.

If Asif can start training again conditioning I think he can get to match fitness in 6 months to a year and he could play for perhaps another year or two, he would do some serious damage. In fact I think Asif hasn't lost his magic unlike Amir, he'll still be a solid wicket taking option albeit only for the short term and his workload would have to managed for his age but I think he should get one more shot to redeem himself and do something for Pakistan.
 
Nope. Neither is Asif interested in representing Pakistan again. However the PCB should hire him as a bowling coach
 
Asif321 said:
He can only come as bowling coach
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Savak said:
Nope. Neither is Asif interested in representing Pakistan again. However the PCB should hire him as a bowling coach
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Asif was interested in representing Pakistan again but he just says he's not cause the PCB just doesn't want to amnesty him. I think he'd make a good coach but he has his whole life right now for that, he's still got 2 years until 40 so could probably make a return as a bowler.
 
He admitted to Saj that he is 40 currently not 38. Forget about his comeback as a player. It's a shame. He could've been the best of this era.
 
AamirWarraich said:
He admitted to Saj that he is 40 currently not 38. Forget about his comeback as a player. It's a shame. He could've been the best of this era.
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Either way, I'd like him to make a comeback and play for 1 to 2 years max, he's still got it.
 
Giannis said:
Either way, I'd like him to make a comeback and play for 1 to 2 years max, he's still got it.
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Dont think so, the last i saw him in domestic cricket he was looking like someone who was operating at 120-125 km/hr. His body is also not holding up as well, he was frequently injured and played selective matches. Fathertime defeats everyone
 
@ moderators, my thread was about Asif not Amir. I made a typo in the thread title so my thread should've been merged with an Asif thread, just reading the content in the OP would've helped...
 
Giannis said:
@ moderators, my thread was about Asif not Amir. I made a typo in the thread title so my thread should've been merged with an Asif thread, just reading the content in the OP would've helped...
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