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The DOWNFALL of Stuart Broad as a BATSMAN is alarming and quite surprising.He just cant put Bat on Ball now.
Once he was a very decent batsman who could hang around well in tail but now he seems to be in league of Chris Martin.

Cant believe Stuart Broad is same Batsman who made 169 against Amir,Asif,Riaz and Ajmal.

I have seen downfall of many batsman,but this is just unexplainable really.

Can anyone explain the reason behind this?
 
He is a sitting duck now.
Just protect himself from ball and move away completely like a genuine No 11.

I think James Anderson is much better batsman now.
 
Varun Aaron's bouncer really affected him which Broad admitted.

But his decline in batting started a long time before that.
 
Had his nose broken in the India series by Varun Aaron. He himself admitted that affected his batting terribly, and it really shows. Looks like a deer in headlights out there whenever he's batting nowadays. Jimmy is now a far better batsman than him. Broad should be no higher than #11.
 
Abdullah719 said:
The decline really started showing with the series in Aus and Mitch but he just completely lost it after the Aaron incident.
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Yeah but I think the decline started even before that.

He was pretty weak in the England's tour of India in 2012 and I don't think he did well when Aussies toured England for Ashes (before the Mitch Johnson Ashes in Aus).
 
Abdullah719 said:
The decline really started showing with the series in Aus and Mitch but he just completely lost it after the Aaron incident.
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ok i agree,but dont u think a batsman who have scored more than 3400 first class runs losing it completely after these few incident.
i mean he has lost it completely.
how can this really happen?
 
sensible-indian-fan said:
Yeah but I think the decline started even before that.

He was pretty weak in the England's tour of India in 2012 and I don't think he did well when Aussies toured England for Ashes (before the Mitch Johnson Ashes in Aus).
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He got a few runs in the Ashes when Australia toured England including a fifty and tbh that was his level. He also had that 77-ball show of defiance against NZ in 2013 (made around 5 IIRC) where he was key to England saving the Test along with Prior.
 
cricket99 said:
ok i agree,but dont u think a batsman who have scored more than 3400 first class runs losing it completely after these few incident.
i mean he has lost it completely.
how can this really happen?
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He looks scared, injuries can do that. He is generally afraid to get in line with the ball. Very susceptible to both short balls and yorkers now. When you just don't have the confidence to get in line with the ball, you're unlikely to last long.
 
Abdullah719 said:
He got a few runs in the Ashes when Australia toured England including a fifty and tbh that was his level. He also had that 77-ball show of defiance against NZ in 2013 (made around 5 IIRC) where he was key to England saving the Test along with Prior.
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Prior,Bresnan,Broad,Swann and Anderson....That was some Lower Order....

But now England have a weak lower order....
 
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Abdullah719 said:
He got a few runs in the Ashes when Australia toured England including a fifty and tbh that was his level. He also had that 77-ball show of defiance against NZ in 2013 (made around 5 IIRC) where he was key to England saving the Test along with Prior.
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Agreed. :)
 
Abdullah719 said:
He looks scared, injuries can do that. He is generally afraid to get in line with the ball. Very susceptible to both short balls and yorkers now. When you just don't have the confidence to get in line with the ball, you're unlikely to last long.
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i think its a mental block.
he needs counseling.
 
cricket99 said:
Prior,Bresnan,Broad,Swann and Anderson....That was some Lower Order....

But now England have a weak lower order....
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Swann was pretty handy with the bat; if he had a better temperament, he could've been as good as Bresnan or better. The line-up they're playing for this Test is still pretty handy with Buttler in at 8 and Jordan at 9, who's no mug with the bat. (Amazing slip catcher too.) Don't think England have decided on a firm line-up yet, Trott and Moeen bhai's positions may be in danger.
 
IMO it has been a combination of Johnson frightening him, as well as Aaron's bouncer, which has led to a loss in any self belief he had in his batting.

Despite this, he still averages 23 with the bat, which is good for a no 8.
 
He has totally lost his confidence with the bat, which is a shame because he clearly has potential.
 
I think the Hughes incident didn't help his case either. I mean KP did sum it up, players in Eng room were literally frightened for their lives and then the Aaron incident after which Hughes lost his life to a bouncer. Its a mental thing, he'll come over it eventually.
 
I trust we will do our utmost best to get his confidence back. We excel in breathing life into out of form cricketers.
 
Didn't know he got that awesome bouncer right to the face from Aaron, good stuff. I don't like broad, never have, never will. He's a jerk that should face wahab bouncers on a bouncy pitch, will be more fun than seeing taking watsons class
 
He needs to bat at number 8 , only playing in live matches will boost his confidence.
 
They were talking about this on BBC TMS today. They said that prior to being hit on the nose his batting average was 24 (with a 100 & 10 x 50s) and since that incident he's averaging 14.

Boycott said that mentally Broad seems to have given up on batting properly and put that down to the mental scars from being hit in the face.

But tbh his decline started way before that incident given that his batting average was almost 30 for the first 40 or so test matches of his career and since then it's been around 18.
 
Mitchell johnson put the fear of God in him and a few other English batsmen.
 
ethan hunt said:
Mitchell johnson put the fear of God in him and a few other English batsmen.
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It was actually Bhuvneshwar Kumar who struck him in the face in 2014. After that his batting was Pakistani #11 level. Now he's past that horrible period but he still hasn't been able to bounce back to the skill he had before.
 
aloo paratha said:
It was actually Bhuvneshwar Kumar who struck him in the face in 2014. After that his batting was Pakistani #11 level. Now he's past that horrible period but he still hasn't been able to bounce back to the skill he had before.
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IIRC, Broad was hit in the face by Varun Aaron.
 
One innings made him. But batting wise he is just like Amir. Decent defence but nothing more. At times a few punches here and there (like Amir at Old Trafford as well).

Also very hard when people start exploiting your weak spot. He gets short balls all the time now.
 
Like Petr Cech, one day he got a bump on the head and was never quite the same again.

It's a bit of a red herring though. His bowling is now so good that it doesn't really matter.
 
Broad was always a Softie and not a tough real man like Mitch.

He lost the ability to hold a bat after being bullied by Great Mitch.
 
James said:
Like Petr Cech, one day he got a bump on the head and was never quite the same again.

It's a bit of a red herring though. His bowling is now so good that it doesn't really matter.
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I am sorry but this is an awful comparison. Cech after getting hit on the head still went on to become a legend at Chelsea, won premier league titles and won the Champions League as well. He still commanded a good price at his transfer and went to Arsenal, a club of his own choice.

Broad on the other hand has become utter rubbish with the bat.
 
LowKiiSavage said:
I am sorry but this is an awful comparison. Cech after getting hit on the head still went on to become a legend at Chelsea, won premier league titles and won the Champions League as well. He still commanded a good price at his transfer and went to Arsenal, a club of his own choice.

Broad on the other hand has become utter rubbish with the bat.
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Broad's case more extreme but Cech definitely declined after that Hunt collision.

Before it he looked unbeatable and capable of becoming one of the greats of the modern era. After he remained a good keeper but began to make more mistakes and never looked as in invincible as he did before Hunt hurt him.
 
hafeezrocks said:
Broad was always a Softie and not a tough real man like Mitch.

He lost the ability to hold a bat after being bullied by Great Mitch.
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The real tough man who England hit all over the park for three series out of four? So much of this game is played in the mind.

Almost nobody comes back from being hit full in the face. Mike Gatting did but I can't think of another.
 
Super Santi said:
Broad's case more extreme but Cech definitely declined after that Hunt collision.

Before it he looked unbeatable and capable of becoming one of the greats of the modern era. After he remained a good keeper but began to make more mistakes and never looked as in invincible as he did before Hunt hurt him.
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What are you on about? Cech is not just a 'good' GK. He is a legend of the game and one of the best keepers to grace the game. Broad isnt even half of his stature.

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Here's the video of that incident.
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Prince of Pakistan said:
One innings made him. But batting wise he is just like Amir. Decent defence but nothing more. At times a few punches here and there (like Amir at Old Trafford as well).

Also very hard when people start exploiting your weak spot. He gets short balls all the time now.
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Much better than Amir, I have seen Broad make some very decent batting contributions. There is 10 run Avg difference and Broad has a test hundred and few 50s too.
 
James said:
Like Petr Cech, one day he got a bump on the head and was never quite the same again.

It's a bit of a red herring though. His bowling is now so good that it doesn't really matter.
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Not consistently good. Good once every series.
 
England fan's will be hoping he can do something similar to Lords 8 years ago whereas recent history suggests he will be lucky to get more than single figures.
 
Hopefully, if Pakistan ever remove Bess and/or Buttler, he fails tomorrow.
 
Broad the batsman has been a walking wicket for the last couple of years Looks like his batting is well and truly done
 
His batting career was ended when the Indian paceman Varun hit him on the head a few years ago. Never the same batsman after that. Call it the batting yips if you like.
 
What happened to Broad the batsman and bowler he should be in his prime but his performances have been declining needs to up his game soon.
 
He needs just 12 runs to reach the 3000 run landmark,in the process becoming just the fifth allrounder in history to reach 3k Test Runs and 400 wickets
 
The question should be now, "What has happened to Stuart Broad-the bowler?"
 
He is still one of England's best bowler of modern era alongside Swann and Anderson.
 
He probably lost the appetite for batting and doesn't practice as a batman anymore in nets.
 
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So the story is that I smacked him on the nose and he's never batted the same since.

You're welcome. :batman:
 
Produces a decent innings now and then but he seems to be finished as a batsmen. Maybe his good form early in his career was just a good patch and not a sign that he could be a genuine all rounder.
 
He’s crossed 3000 tests runs, no mean feat. That said he’s still underachieved with the bat imo.
 
His batting career has been a tail of two halves

The first half he was genuinely on his way to becoming an allrounder someone who could avge 30-35 runs with the bat

Over the last several years tho hes been a genuine no 9-10 barely avging 10-12 runs over this period

Hes no all rounder and hasnt been for a long time
 
Broad's primary job is bowling. He was never considered as an all-rounder. Whatever batting he does is a big bonus.
 
Considering his overall career, more of a no.9 or a 10.

An England great because away from England, he was on par with Anderson ImO although nowhere close to Jimmy at home.
 
Asif and Amir let this guy score 169 against them.
 
Savak said:
Asif and Amir let this guy score 169 against them.
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They had other preoccupations that Test...

For those who think Salman Butt was a great captain in the making, he let this guy score 169 and England recover from 102-7 to 445 all out.
 
Great bowler, but when it comes to the batting - what a nosedive.

Was once an accomplished number eight batsman with numerous Test fifties and a Test ton - he was even eyeing further promotion up the order.

Now he is close to a rabbit and is lucky to come in at number eleven; he would come in at the twelfth position if there was one.

Cricket - it’s all in the mind!
 
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