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What number should Umar Akmal bat in the current ODI team?

What number should Umar Akmal bat in the current ODI team?

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In your opinion what number should Umar Akmal bat at in the current Pakistan ODI team?
 
He should be given a chance as an opener BECAUSE he can't keep the ball on the ground. Let him play in the air.

#freeAkmal
 
Right now he is giving Sharjeel a brisk walk for his money for the fattest cricketer in the squad. So so unprofessional. There was a time when he was the most athletic cricketer we had and was a superb fielder, now he has the physique of a kasai let alone an international cricketer.

I'm surprised Mickey is tolerating this atrocious level of fitness.


As for the OP, Akmal should bat at the opener's spot and Hafeez should drop down to six, but it will never happen.
 
Why Aakku boy is bashed for his fitness I don't know. Apart from Malik & may be Rizwan, every PAK player is carrying extra fat, even MoHa & Amir. Sarfy is even more unfit, while Imad also has added nice tummy.
 
Syed1 said:
Right now he is giving Sharjeel a brisk walk for his money for the fattest cricketer in the squad. So so unprofessional. There was a time when he was the most athletic cricketer we had and was a superb fielder, now he has the physique of a kasai let alone an international cricketer.

I'm surprised Mickey is tolerating this atrocious level of fitness.


As for the OP, Akmal should bat at the opener's spot and Hafeez should drop down to six, but it will never happen.
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Lol your are right

Also their was news coming on before odi series on pak news channel and one sports channel that team management is not happy with the player that join odi squad because they have done nothing in fitness during gap in international fixtures instead they have put extra weight on and due to this mickey arthur give them a long and hard training session

I think that includes Umar akmal and imad wasim because both have gain some weight after last tour which is disappointing because both are young and should be more proffessional but that just sums up our young players just ridicalous
 
saeed5646 said:
Lol your are right

Also their was news coming on before odi series on pak news channel and one sports channel that team management is not happy with the player that join odi squad because they have done nothing in fitness during gap in international fixtures instead they have put extra weight on and due to this mickey arthur give them a long and hard training session

I think that includes Umar akmal and imad wasim because both have gain some weight after last tour which is disappointing because both are young and should be more proffessional but that just sums up our young players just ridicalous
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I hope it is true and I hope Mickey makes all the unfit cricketers run laps of the ground before and after the match, but you cannot out-train a bad diet. You can train for 5 hours a day and still eat parathay, biryani and nihari and you would have a tummy that would rival Sharjeel or Akmal.
 
Open or 4. 4 is more realistic in this series since hafeez will have to open with Sharjeel.
 
Opening or number 4. We don't have many dynamic LO players, Umar is one. We either play him in an effective position or not at all.
 
Madplayer said:
He should be given a chance as an opener BECAUSE he can't keep the ball on the ground. Let him play in the air.

#freeAkmal
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I agree with this. I wrongly voted as 6th position as I thought he should come lower down the order for quick innings but no.6 can be a tricky position to bat on. Opening would give him more freedom to play his natural cricket like Sharjeel.
 
Hasan123 said:
Opening or number 4. We don't have many dynamic LO players, Umar is one. We either play him in an effective position or not at all.
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The No. 4 spot should be for players who actually have the ability to construct an innings or stabilize the innings, something Akmal clearly doesn't. Being a dynamic player is no use if he's going to get out in the 20's or 30's.
 
As an opener or at 6/7.
But not before PCB send him and all the unfit players to a boot camp and hire a drill sergeant like the one from Stanley Kubrick's Full Metal Jacket.
Only way to whip them into shape
 
6 is fine for him. Babar, Sarfraz, and Malik have done better than him in the middle order. In top order, Sharjeel is a must, Azhar is the captain, and Hafeez has numbers behind him.
 
No. 3 or 4 are the best positions for him.

As an opener, he will lose his wicket 8 or 9/10 at the 9th or 10th over trying to take advantage of the final PP overs and get out.

Don't see a difference between him batting as a no. 6 and opener.
 
He should open. Like Sharjeel he prefers to go aerial, so no better time than when the fielders are inside the 30.
 
lineup going forward should be
sharjeel
azhar
babar
sarfu
malik
uakmal
hafeez
imad
amir
junaid
hasan ali

current lineup
sharjeel
shafiq
babar
malik
uakmal
hafeez
imad
rizwan
amir
junaid
hasan ali
 
Depends on the rest of the XI. He should be playing though. He is a good hitter. Not smart enough for #3 or #4 as we have seen. I say somewhere from #5-#8.
 
Syed1 said:
Right now he is giving Sharjeel a brisk walk for his money for the fattest cricketer in the squad. So so unprofessional. There was a time when he was the most athletic cricketer we had and was a superb fielder, now he has the physique of a kasai let alone an international cricketer.

I'm surprised Mickey is tolerating this atrocious level of fitness.


As for the OP, Akmal should bat at the opener's spot and Hafeez should drop down to six, but it will never happen.
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Azhar is overweight too.

The only lean cricketers we have right now is YK, Malik, Junaid, Rizwan and Amir.

Wahab is built like a tank and is extremely strong and athletic but I think he has too much muscle mass for a fast bowler.
 
msb314 said:
Azhar is overweight too.

The only lean cricketers we have right now is YK, Malik, Junaid, Rizwan and Amir.

Wahab is built like a tank and is extremely strong and athletic but I think he has too much muscle mass for a fast bowler.
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No. Our whole squad is in great shape, barring Sharjeel, Imad, Sarfraz and Akmal.
 
msb314 said:
Azhar is overweight too.

The only lean cricketers we have right now is YK, Malik, Junaid, Rizwan and Amir.

Wahab is built like a tank and is extremely strong and athletic but I think he has too much muscle mass for a fast bowler.
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Not anymore. Not even close to being overweight.

He's worked very hard since the Kakul camp.
 
He should open, I would have a new look lineup for ct

Sharjeel Khan
Umar Akmal
Babar Azam
Malik
Sarfaraz (c)
Imad Wasim
Rizwan(wk)
Sohail Khan
Amir
Hassan Ali
Junaid Khan
 
All depends on which players are available.

If Sarfraz and Azhar are both available (and until Azhar can maintain his spot), and Hafeez keeps performing, Umar should sit on the bench or bat at 7 (don't know what's worse).

Presently, for the 3rd ODI, I'd bring in Nawaz for Shafiq and bat Umar at #5.
 
I'd say 4/5

I wouldn't mind them trying him out as an opener in T20

Right now though -

Azhar
Sharjeel
Babar

is set

with Hafeez probably in the top 4 too somewhere

I feel 5 is a decent position too for Akmal but kinda think Malik at 6 is a waste
 
Seamer said:
He should open, I would have a new look lineup for ct

Sharjeel Khan
Umar Akmal
Babar Azam
Malik
Sarfaraz (c)
Imad Wasim
Rizwan(wk)
Sohail Khan
Amir
Hassan Ali
Junaid Khan
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Rizwan is a waste of a spot... lol, he's a useless batsman
That XI would get bowled for 150 quite regularly
 
3,4 or maybe 5. Should be given a consistent run at whatever position they decide
 
Madplayer said:
He should be given a chance as an opener BECAUSE he can't keep the ball on the ground. Let him play in the air.

#freeAkmal
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You do realize that he plays in the air in the same regions every time and the opposition just has to put 2 fielders in the same place and he WILL get out?
 
I voted 6 but realised that he has been atrocious for the past few seasons. He would probably rotate the strike, block a few the hoick to midwicket and get out. I'd give him a chance to open and see what happens given he likes to play in the air a lot, plus it will give Pak a huge lead with Sharjeel there too.
 
I think life ban will be imposed on him because of his attitude and behavior towards game. I have nothing to do with his off field activities. Look at the out in first odi against aus. Ridiculous
 
Indiafan said:
You do realize that he plays in the air in the same regions every time and the opposition just has to put 2 fielders in the same place and he WILL get out?
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when there are open spaces everywhere , he does have the ability to manufacture shots and use those spaces. when fielders are spread out, he just tries to hoick it over mid wicket which seems to be his go to zone.

as an opener he will have more open spaces to play shots in.
 
Syed1 said:
Right now he is giving Sharjeel a brisk walk for his money for the fattest cricketer in the squad. So so unprofessional. There was a time when he was the most athletic cricketer we had and was a superb fielder, now he has the physique of a kasai let alone an international cricketer.

I'm surprised Mickey is tolerating this atrocious level of fitness.


As for the OP, Akmal should bat at the opener's spot and Hafeez should drop down to six, but it will never happen.
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I think you should also consider that he is well-built. Those biceps really come up even in full sleeves although I do agree that he has extra fat but Sharjeel is definitely overweight.

In the current team only Sharjeel, Umar and Sarfraz could be deemed overweight.

Still I don't think it is affecting their fielding. Sharjeel hasn't dropped a catch since his return I think. Umar is one of our reliable fielders. Sarfraz's keeping has declined against spin but his keeping is top-notch against pace.

I don't know why Imad is taking so much flak. He's doing fine performance-wise. His fitness will get better. Its not like he always had a bulging tummy.

TBH I agree with Umar opening the innings and I feel like Mickey might just give him a chance there.
 
All the comments on his fitness that I'm sure he can fix, BUT if he is to stay in the starting 11 he has to figure out his shot selection..
Maybe he is talented !? Comes out plays 2-3 good shots & then gives his wicket away..
Has been in & out alot, so much talk about the talent he has, but gives away is wicket cheaply almost every game
 
msb314 said:
Looks unfit to me.

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That pic is over a year old...

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I wish I was that unfit that I could bat 11 hours. :facepalm:
 
Umar needs to grow up now, he's 26 years old and should be in his prime years while having established himself in the team.

Instead, he's just putting on more weight everyday, still struggling and his position in the lineup is under heavy scrutiny.

He should take a leaf out of Azhar's book - set his priorities straight and work hard.

Temperament is another issue which he seems to be nowhere close to resolving and to be honest, expectations should be low on that front.
 
would like to know how he managed opening the innings in BPL under Mccullum captaincy i think...how was he as an opener as i didnt follow BPL at all..
 
ask_analyse_act said:
would like to know how he managed opening the innings in BPL under Mccullum captaincy i think...how was he as an opener as i didnt follow BPL at all..
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Sammy was the captain and he batted at #4/5 in BPL. Didn't do anything of note.

Perhaps you're referring to CPL. McCullum wasn't captain, though he was in the team. Umar opened the innings twice, made 30 off 15 once and got run out the other time after making 6.
 
Abdullah719 said:
Umar needs to grow up now, he's 26 years old and should be in his prime years while having established himself in the team.

Instead, he's just putting on more weight everyday, still struggling and his position in the lineup is under heavy scrutiny.

He should take a leaf out of Azhar's book - set his priorities straight and work hard.

Temperament is another issue which he seems to be nowhere close to resolving and to be honest, expectations should be low on that front.
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It's his diet, that's the problem. Working hard won't work if his food habit doesn't change. Temperament is an issue, but stamina as well; for that he should open with a free license.

Most successful No. 5/6 in ODI are like Bevan, Hussy, MS, Inzi, Hari De, Azhar, UV, Hansi..... players extremely cool, composed, calculative & most of them were very good placer of the ball. Umar is neither cool, nor calculative & he often tries to over power things, hence I don't think he will ever be a good No. 6; now that 5 men are allowed at line in last 10 overs.

He should be given openers slot & a free license to go after. PAK often bats to chases the game in early stage (that's batting first or second, often are behind the per score) - so far every strategy is to reach a number of overs with certain number of wickets at hand; for which, one reason can be that the tail started at 7 with Afridi; but this line-up has decent depth - may be 128/4 after 20 overs in better than 88/1 at same stage on a particular wicket. That can happen with SK & UA opening with blast and later Babar, MoHa, Mian, Sarfu, Imad consolidating the innings at a slower rate than first 15 overs. To their strength, now there is a No. 3 capable of 45/90 sorts of stats, therefore quick start at the expense of 2 more wickets should be more effective, rather than believing that without Razzak, Akram, Moin or Afridi like players; 150 in last 15 is possible by Mian, Sarfu, Umar & Imad from 4 to 7.

Arthur will take it to that way, if he can survive till MoHa, Mian are gone - otherwise Bangladesh for 2019 :(.
 
The eternally talented boy of Pakistan. Anyway should bat as opener.Wouldn't change any fortune though. My humble opinio only.
 
Pollack said:
The eternally talented boy of Pakistan. Anyway should bat as opener.Wouldn't change any fortune though. My humble opinio only.
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Yes, he won't change the team's fortune, but might save himself if he's asked to open as he can do far better as an opener, though i think he will even fail at that.
 
If the top order is
Sharjeel
Azhar
Hafeez
Babar
Malik

Then I dont see him playing higher then six if one of Hafeez and Azhar is not in the team he might get in at 5. Ideally to me Babar and Malik should be 3-4 with sharjeel at 1. Number 2,5,6 should be decided between the Azhar, Hafeez and UAkmal. With the way Azhar plays usually I dont see him playing at 5-6 so he becomes the 2nd opener. So 5-6 to be decide between Hafeez and UAkmal so Hafeez will come at 5 and UAkmal at six.
I dont think the Pakistani management will do that though it probably be

Sharjeel
Azhar
Hafeez
Babar
Malik
UAkmal
Sarfaraz\Rizwan
Imad
3rd bowler
Aamer
Junaid

With Haris Sohail getting fit we will see some competition for places in the playing IX in a few months. With Hafeez, Malik and Haris having the advantage of bowling I don't see Azhar keeping the captaincy or being part of the side going forward.
 
Umar Akmal is not a new player. He has acclimatized to the number 6 position by playing there for more than half his career. If we try to mould him according to our opinions, he will end up being a disaster. Please don't meddle with his or Shafiq's (in test) positions.

Umar has opened during his under-19 days, and that turned out to be catastrophic. Those who are recommending him to be moved to open are either in for a big surprise, or will just label him "not good enough" after he fails.
 
Most of Umar's good work was tarnished by a weak top order. Umar is programmed a certain way. You cannot rewire him according to your agenda. Once you get a solid top and upper middle order (that gives 200+ after 35 overs), you will see what a gem Umar is.
 
asfandyar said:
Most of Umar's good work was tarnished by a weak top order. Umar is programmed a certain way. You cannot rewire him according to your agenda. Once you get a solid top and upper middle order (
that gives 200+ after 35 overs
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), you will see what a gem Umar is.
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any batsman should do good at this point...No excuse for a batsman to not bat in certain positions.. If u r a batsman then should do well in all positions, according to his strength and game the position should be changed to be more productive for the team is a simple theory..... if it has to score 10 runs in a last over a batsman is expected to score them not the bowler in the non-striker's end..
 
Umr Akmal has been poorly managed over the years and he has to take some some responsibility for this. He was ludicrous in some matches he used to come below Afridi and expected to win us matches. If you treat him like a tail ender he will bat like one. Number 4 is ideal for him as he can be a slow starter and will allow him to shift gears when required without much pressure. The guy just can't handle complications everything needs to be simple for him.
 
I hope this turns out to be his last series for a long time , he is more unreliable than shahid afridi.
 
He does not play new ball well, so no for opening slot...4 is probably best in pacy conditions like Aus. Although he is looking off color in this series, very disappointed at his belly, how you get so fat :facepalm:
 
Syed1 said:
Also got a bulging belly. He should have been dropped just for being SO unfit.
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yah , after making a return to odi team after a long time he was still playing recklessly even more idiotically than he was playing before.
 
JibranAnsari said:
yah , after making a return to odi team after a long time he was still playing recklessly even more idiotically than he was playing before.
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in the last game even though all the field was in he picked good deliveries and he was clear about his shots. Even commies were saying how much confident Umar has in his shots and that he always looks positive. Only Pakistanis have hate for Umar Akmal. The rest of the world really fear Umar Akmal and really admire his talent. His stats are not bad for a no.6 batsman. The sad fact is he has not been backed by the lobby we had in the ODIs in last 5 years. Now captain,coach are different so we might get the best out of him.
 
asfandyar said:
Umar Akmal is not a new player. He has acclimatized to the number 6 position by playing there for more than half his career. If we try to mould him according to our opinions, he will end up being a disaster. Please don't meddle with his or Shafiq's (in test) positions.

Umar has opened during his under-19 days, and that turned out to be catastrophic. Those who are recommending him to be moved to open are either in for a big surprise, or will just label him "not good enough" after he fails.
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no.6 is a tricky position to bat on. I think Umar has more chance of succeeding opening than at 6 as he is always looking for boundary shots that's why he plays too many aerial shots. PP overs would help him as there are only two fielders out. At 6 he has to be able to have some patience as some quick wickets fall could put pressure on batting and also more power in his shots as he has to clear the ropes comfortably or find the gaps instead of fielders.
 
MMHS said:
No. 3 - which he doesn't deserve now, probably never was.
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Thanks

Its hard to rationalize #3 for him.

Either open and take full advantage of field restrictions or come at #4/5 and play the role of Malik.
 
Umar Akmal needs to understand his role and should bat accordingly at number 6. Don't think he has the temperament to bat up the order.
 
Umar talented Akmal lost us this game. Horrible batting, complete waste of space in the team.
 
I will not vote until we get an option of "Shouldn't be in the side"


He is fat and unfit, he can't bat and he used his connections to get into the side. Sounds like Afridi all over again.
 
#4 if we don't get Haris Sohail back into the side. #5 if we do. Nothing lower than that because he doesn't have the temperament to be a consistent finisher and nothing higher because he won't be able to play sensibly against the new ball.

He's a good ODI batsman and should be in the side without doubt.
 
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