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What should Pakistan’s Test squads be for the tour of Ireland/England 2018?

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Really looking forward to this series. What do you guys think our squad should be?
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My ideal playing 11 will be:

1. Sami Aslam
2. Azhar Ali
3. Babar Azam (hopefully he would have established himself in tests by then)
4. Asad Shafiq
5. Haris Sohail
6. Usman Salahuddin
7. Sarfaraz Ahmed
8. Hasan Ali
9. Yasir Shah
10. Muhammad Amir
11. Junaid Khan(subject to form and if he is bowling 140+)/Usman Shinwari (subject to fitness)/Wahab Riaz (subject to form)
 
Syed1 said:
My ideal playing 11 will be:

1. Sami Aslam
2. Azhar Ali
3. Babar Azam (hopefully he would have established himself in tests by then)
4. Asad Shafiq
5. Haris Sohail
6. Usman Salahuddin
7. Sarfaraz Ahmed
8. Hasan Ali
9. Yasir Shah
10. Muhammad Amir
11. Junaid Khan(subject to form and if he is bowling 140+)/Usman Shinwari (subject to fitness)/Wahab Riaz (subject to form)
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How? Pakistan is not even playing a test before that..
 
Sami
Azhar
Babar
Haris
Usman
Yamin/Azam - just need a medium pace AR fill in bowler who can keep one end tight to allow others to rotate.
Sarfraz
Hasan
Amir
Yasir
Abbas

Sohail Khan
Waqas Ahmed
Saad Ali
Imam ul Haq - needs some scores in FC this season though.
Raza Hasan

Very inexperienced batting lineup there so we'll probably end up seeing Shafiq instead. Definitely need 5 bowlers though.
 
RehanG said:
How? Pakistan is not even playing a test before that..
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Damn I didn't know that... so Pakistan will potentially go into the Ire/England series with a misfiring Bobby, a Harry with a test experience of 2 tests and Usman on debut. Mashallah
 
Sami
Azhar
Babar
Haris
Usman
Shafiq
Sarfraz
Amir
Yasir
Hasan
Junaid/rumman
 
Not sure why Abbas is being left out. Late spring/early summer conditions in the UK are going to suit his bowling to the tee. I'm expecting him to cause some damage. :asif
 
Syed1 said:
Damn I didn't know that... so Pakistan will potentially go into the Ire/England series with a misfiring Bobby, a Harry with a test experience of 2 tests and Usman on debut. Mashallah
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And they will still win Alhamdullilah

:salute
 
Personally I would go with:

1) Sami Aslam
2) Azhar Ali
3) Haris Sohail
4) Babar Azam
5) Asad Shafiq
6) Usman Salahuddin
7) Sarfaraz Ahmed
8) Hasan Ali
9) Mohammad Amir
10) Yasir Shah
11) Mohammad Abbas

Haris and Shafiq to share the burden of the 5th bowler.
 
1. Imam Ul Haq
2. Sami Aslam
3. Azhar Ali
4. Fawad Alam
5. Haris Sohail
6. Asad Shafique
7. Sarfaraz Ahmed
8. Yasir Shah
9. Hasan Ali
10. Mohammad Abbas
11. Junaid Khan/Shadab Khan

Before you all think I'm hopping on the Fawad Alam bandwagon, please do note that PCB invited him to the National Cricket Academy for coaching, so hopefully there's a chance he's selected (only time will tell). Yes, I also understand he's 32 years old and there may be a push for youngsters, but he's that stable middle order batsman we need who could fill the gap of Misbah/Younis that's really hurting us. No one really has the experience right now. He could retire after the 2021 planned Test Cricket World Cup Final (if Pak makes it to the finals). At least give out some justice where it's deserved. You may ask, "what if he underperforms?" And my answer to that question is that there's no harm in trying, we have nothing to lose considering the condition of of our test team, so at least try, maybe the change will work, if it doesn't, then we could move towards other options.

Also, I don't think Mohammad Amir should play Tests. He's simply too prone to injuries, and PCB needs to manage his schedule better. He's good for LOI, and I don't feel at this stage of his career he needs tests. I would have even said Hasan, but I feel that he could actually grow as a bowler from test cricket, my only stipulation be that he do it while doing his best to keep fit and avoid getting injured frequently. And Babar Azam in my opinion is just simply not suited to the Test Format, better for LOI.
 
I'm surprised none of the squads above include Saad Ali, whats the point of being the leading run scorer in QEA if you aint gonna get a nod.

Saad Ali, Umar Amin and Saud Shakeel should be on selection radar for tests. Pakistan just lost 2-0 to Sri Lanka in UAE primarily due to poor batting and the above squads still consist of those batting failures.
 
Extra_Cover said:
I'm surprised none of the squads above include Saad Ali, whats the point of being the leading run scorer in QEA if you aint gonna get a nod.

Saad Ali, Umar Amin and Saud Shakeel should be on selection radar for tests. Pakistan just lost 2-0 to Sri Lanka in UAE primarily due to poor batting and the above squads still consist of those batting failures.
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Umar Amin will fail badly in England.
I wasn't impressed by Saad when I saw him (2 times) but due to his legendary stats this season, he deserves a go (atleast in the squad). A player can be lucky in few innings but not in 10 innings.
 
1. Sami Aslam
2. Azhar Ali
3. Haris Sohail
4. Babar azam
5. Asad Shafiq
6. Usman salahuddin
7. Sarfraz
8. Hasan Ali
9. Yasir Shah
10. Muhammad Amir
11. Mohammad abbas
 
Extra_Cover said:
I'm surprised none of the squads above include Saad Ali, whats the point of being the leading run scorer in QEA if you aint gonna get a nod.

Saad Ali, Umar Amin and Saud Shakeel should be on selection radar for tests. Pakistan just lost 2-0 to Sri Lanka in UAE primarily due to poor batting and the above squads still consist of those batting failures.
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The problem is that Shafiq isn’t going anywhere soon especially after his last innings, knowing Mickey.

I think Saad will be selected in the squad but not in the XI.

I hope Babar will come good in England as his strength is against pace so it is the perfect venue for him to announce himself in test match cricket.
 
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babajee said:
The problem is that Shafiq isn’t going anywhere soon especially after his last innings, knowing Mickey.

I think Saad will be selected in the squad but not in the XI.
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Saw Sarfraz's recent interview where he hinted that Yamin and Faheem are in plans as fast bowling all rounder for next overseas tests.
 
Azhar Ali
Fakhar Zaman
Asad Shafiq
Haris Sohail
Usman Salahuddin
Sarfraz Ahmed*+
Aamer Yamin
Wahab Riaz
Mohammad Amir
Hasan Ali
Mohammad Abbas
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Babar Azam
Yasir Shah
Imam ul-Haq
Mohammad Rizwan+
 
My squad of 16

1. Azhar Ali
2. Sami Aslam
3. Umar Amin
4. Asad Shafiq
5. Usman Salahuddin
6. Haris Sohail
7. Sarfaraz
8. Yasir Shah
9. Hassan Ali
10. Sohail Khan
11. M Abbas


12. Imam Ul Haq
13. Saad Ali
14. M Asghar
15. Mir Hamza
16. Any new fast bowler

It will be early season in Ireland and England and we have to play 3 seamers.

The squad is balanced with a backup opener and middle order batsman and two pacers. I have left out M Amir because of his test form and Wahab Riaz. No pacer has stood out for me this domestic season so not sure who will be the second pacer. Maybe they will take Amir. No point talking about Sadaf as he won't be selected.
 
Azhar, Imam, Babar, Haris, Sarfraz, Salahuddin, Fahim, Shadab, Amir, Hasan, Abbas. That's the playing XI even though I know it will never happen.
The bench:
Junaid, Amin, Shaheen Shah Afridi, Asghar, Yamin
 
Azhar
Sami
Haris
Usman
Fawad(deserves a go)
Shafiq
Sarfraz(C)(WK)
Hassan
Amir
Yasir
Abbas.

Imam
Babar
Fahim
Rumman/Mir Hamza
 
Sami Aslam
Azhar Ali
Haris Sohail
Babar Azam
Asad Shafiq
Sarfraz Ahmed*+
Aamer Yamin
Hasan Ali
Yasir Shah
Mohammad Amir
Mohammad Abbas

Usman Salahuddin
Fahim Ashraf
Mir Hamza
Mohammad Asghar
Imam ul Haq
 
To me all the squads above include Babar Azam. I'm surprised at this tbh, don't get me wrong he will be one of the best batsman to represent Pakistan in tests once he hangs up his boots. However, at the moment I feel a season or two of first class cricket will help him immensely. The time spent in domestics now could well be used in his learning and development. To be honest, I would like to see Babar play county cricket this summer rather than letting his confidence down in tests. He will come out better and improved player from this county stint.

For Asad Shafiq, he simply has to go. A player with 7 years of consistent backing still needs backing to remain in the side is a player who would never yield positive results.

Azhar should open with Sami. Azhar scored a freaking 200 in Australia, a 200 in Windies, a freaking 300 too. So begs the thinking why he isn't opening. Sami should be given the long rope to learn and improve. However, for Sami my major concern is his mental block rather than his cricket abilities. Sami has got all the abilities to come good what remains to be seen is if he can overcome his mental attitude and play for the team.

Haris Sohail is a bright star, but he needs to take his fitness seriously and put in hard time and hours in the gym. Otherwise I don't see him playing 2 seasons of test cricket consecutively.
 
Ahson8 said:
Yes he’s in the squad. Do you think he would do well there ?
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Abbas, Hamza and the likes are most suited to such conditions. It's when we tour SA, Aus or playing st home do we need bowlers that can hit a decent pace (135-140km/h, ideally 140+) and are able to extract a bit of bounce, which is lacking in our attack.
 
babajee said:
Really looking forward to this series. What do you guys think our squad should be?

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First thing is that in UK (& IRL, they are separate, but it limits words), Yasir won't bowl 85 overs - SO, 4.5 bowlers is a must; otherwise PAK won't end any Test with 11 players standing. That's the key for me in any formation, otherwise it'll be a repeat of recent SRL Series (not repeat actually, IRL won't save the Test unless it rains for 250 overs).

I am sure about 8 players. 3 open spots are 2nd opener, a No. 6 and Amir's new ball partner (Hasan is 1st change). Despite poor numbers, Babar has to be backed, because I feel he is just 1 big innings away.

For opener, I'll definitely go for a lefti - Shan, Sami, Fakhar, Imam & Amin have opened in recent time, and opened well. I think, it's between Imam & Amin for me - I'll pick one based on No. 6. I don't like openers in only one gear - that too 1st gear, unless he is watertight like Azhar. These 1 hour's stay for 10 runs is noting innings - it just allows new ball pair to rest without much damage & come back again with score card stagnated. One Azhar is fine for that - his partner should be able to punish few loose one.

For No. 6, all-rounder makes the batting weak - it's a bit tough to pick Fahim, Hammad or Yamin at 6 and expect to cover batting. Together with opener, I probably will go for Amin & Saad Ali - and force Amin to toughen-up for bowling 15 overs at least, another 10 from Hari - that's 25 overs covered. Yasir for 50 overs and 3 pacers can share 125 overs work load. A long shot can be Saud as batting all-rounder, but don't think it's justice for the kid to start career in UK - it cost Amin 7 years and counting. Saad Ali should earn a spot with Sallauddin - I picked him because he is in form and lefti.

If he is still fit, 3rd pacer will be Asif - for one last time. No explanation required, if he can bowl for 45 overs and hit at least 125KM average speed. Otherwise, Abbas is a good new ball seemer, but I probably would like to like Hamza, bowling well and swings it. Wahab shouldn't be picked because Tests are scheduled at Leeds & Lord's in early summer - he'll go for plenty.

Azhar, Amin
Babar, Hari, Asad, Saad
*Sarfraz+
Yasir, Amir, Hasan, Asif?
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Sallauddin, Imam, Abbas, Hamza, Masood (WK), if 17th man taken - Saud

Unless, someone exceptional comes in next 6 months ......
 
Syed1 said:
My ideal playing 11 will be:

1. Sami Aslam
2. Azhar Ali
3. Babar Azam (hopefully he would have established himself in tests by then)
4. Asad Shafiq
5. Haris Sohail
6. Usman Salahuddin
7. Sarfaraz Ahmed
8. Hasan Ali
9. Yasir Shah
10. Muhammad Amir
11. Junaid Khan(subject to form and if he is bowling 140+)/Usman Shinwari (subject to fitness)/Wahab Riaz (subject to form)
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Babar Azam is a big call. Pakistan bowling line-up is world class though. England have an attack of Anderson, Broad, Woakes, Stokes and Moeen - tough task for any batting lineup in England to face that. Batting can really struggle and no part of this lineup inspires confidence.
 
Princejain191 said:
Babar Azam is a big call. Pakistan bowling line-up is world class though. England have an attack of Anderson, Broad, Woakes, Stokes and Moeen - tough task for any batting lineup in England to face that. Batting can really struggle and no part of this lineup inspires confidence.
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The third pacer in England must be Abbas. He's the ideal bowler for English/Irish conditions.
 
Azhar
Imam
Babar
Harris
Asad
Talat/Yamin
Sarfraz
Hasan
Amir
Abbas
Yasir

Sami,Saad,Hamza Mir, right arm pacer, Rizwan or another back up keeper.
 
Azhar
Hafeez
Babar
Haris
Shafiq
Salahuddin
Sarfaraz
Amir
Yasir
Hasan
Abbas

Sami/Imam
Fawad
Rizwan
Yamin
Wahab
 
1) Azhar Ali
2) Sami Aslam
3) Babar Azam
4) Haris Sohail
5) Asad Shafiq
6) Usman Salahuddin
7) Sarfaraz Ahmed
8) Mohammad Amir
9) Yasir Shah
10) Hasan Ali
11) Junaid Khan

12) Imam ul Haq
13) Fawad Alam/Hussain Talat
14) Mohammad Abbas
15) Mohammad Asghar
16) Usman Khan Shinwari/Mir Hamza
 
1.Azhar Ali
2.Fawad Alam
3.Harris Sohail
4.Usman Saluhuddin
5.Asad Shafiq
6.Safraz Ahmad
7.Fahim Ashraf/Aamer Yamin/Muhammad Nawaz
8.Hassan Ali
9.Muhammad Amir
10.Yasir Shah
11.Muhammad Abbas
 
1) Sami Aslam
2) Azhar Ali
3) Haris Sohail
4) Fawad Alam / Umar Amin
5) Asad Shafiq
6) Usman Salahuddin
7) Sarfaraz Ahmed
8) Hasan Ali
9) Mohammad Amir
10) Yasir Shah
11) Mohammad Abbas

Think Babar Azam needs to sit out the starting 11 for tests for now.
 
Ellipsism said:
The third pacer in England must be Abbas. He's the ideal bowler for English/Irish conditions.
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Yes, he is good. Pakistan could go with four pacers but then with this batting line-up, you don't want a tail of Hasan, Junaid and Abbas. So Yasir and probably 3 fast bowlers. If Hasan can get that reverse swing going in tests and keep his speed 130+, he will be really difficult to face in England. Abbas I've found gets a lot easier to play in his latter spells.
 
Technique and Bobby need to get their acts together somehow. Azhar needs to open with Harry at 3. Kaptaan should come at #4.

These tours are essential for us to introduce Fahim in test cricket as well and are ideal conditions for a pace bowling alrounder to be integrated into the framework of the red ball starting XI. I won't mind if Fakhar/Sami/Imam (either one of the three) slot in for the other vacant opening position as well.

These 7 along with Yasir, Amir, Abbas and Hasan should enable us with a very good Test lineup for both batting and bowling in seaming English conditions during the early May season. As backup I'd probably have Mir Hamza, Ruman and Junaid on standby.

For batting reserves I'll keep Usman, Faddy and one more FC performer from the ongoing season to cap off the squad.
 
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Ur best bet is,

Sami (Final chance)
Azhar
Haris
Usman
Asad
Sarfraz
Yamin
Amir
Hassan
Yasir
Abbas

Imam
Fawad
Asghar
Wahab
Hamza
 
1 Azhar.
2 Sami.
3 Haris.
4 Sarfaraz.
5 Babar.
6 Shafiq.
7 Faheem.
8 Yasir.
9 Amir.
10 Hassan.
11 Abbas.
 
1- Sami
2- Azhar
3- Babar
4-Haris
5- Shafiq
6- Salahudin
7-Srafraz
8- Yamin
9-Yasir
10- Amir
11- Abbas

12- Imam
13- Raees
14- Alam
15- Hamza
16- Asghar
 
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1. Imam ul Haq (Sami Aslam as reserve)
2. Azhar Ali
3. Babar Azam
4. Haris Sohail
5. Fawad Alam
6. Asad Shafiq (Usman salahuddin)
7. Sarfraz Ahmed
8. Amir
9. Hassan Ali
10. Yasir Shah
11. Abbas (Wahab, Junaid)

Too Bad Shinwari got injured otherwise I would have him in Place of Abbas. Big Question is Shan Masood (does PCB have enough courage to drop him, About time this failure got dropped. ) Fawad is perfect for this format and 32 is no big deal (Misbah was re-inducted into the side at 37).
 
I know what i say will never happen but anyways

1. Azhar
2. Amin
3. Babar
4. Haris
5. Asad - haardly have any faith in him, but he will stay regardless of what we think, can only hope he decideds to score when we actually need it
6. Sarfraz - c- wk
7. Hammad/ Yamin
8. Yasir
9. Hasan Ali
10. Amir
11. Abbas

12. Shinwari - if fit
13. Saad Ali
14. Usman Salah uh din
15. Bilal Asif / Asghar/Raza Hasan
 
Princejain191 said:
Yes, he is good. Pakistan could go with four pacers but then with this batting line-up, you don't want a tail of Hasan, Junaid and Abbas. So Yasir and probably 3 fast bowlers. If Hasan can get that reverse swing going in tests and keep his speed 130+, he will be really difficult to face in England. Abbas I've found gets a lot easier to play in his latter spells.
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Amir and Hasan are capable with the bat and Yasir's already proven that he's no mug with the bat.

Abbas is one dimensional but he'll get away with it in these conditions, with the dukes ball and overhead conditions even if the pitch is flat- he'll do well. When we go to places like Australia and South Africa then yes, we need to find a R/A pacer who gets a bit of lift and bowls at at decent click. That's what our test attack requires to be termed a well rounded attack.
 
I know we're gonna get thumped, but damn, seeing "Pakistan Test Squad" and "Ireland" made me so damn happy haha
 
Openers
1-Azhar Ali
2-Umar Amin
Reserved-Sami Aslam
One Down
3-Babar Azam
Middle Order
4-Fawad Alam
5-Harris Sohail
6-Asad Shafique
Reserved-Usman Sallahuddin
Wicket Keeper
7-Sarfaraz
All Rounder
8-Faheem
Reserved-Aamir Yamin
Bowlers
9-Hassan Ali
10-Yasir Shah
11-Muhammad Amir
Reserved-Muhammad Asghar, Sohail Khan, Junaid Khan
 
The playing XI in May of next year should be
Babar
Aslam
Azhar
Haris
Salahuddin
Sarfraz
Fahim
Sahdab
Amir
Hasan
Shaheen
 
Syed1 said:
My ideal playing 11 will be:

1. Sami Aslam
2. Azhar Ali
3. Babar Azam (hopefully he would have established himself in tests by then)
4. Asad Shafiq
5. Haris Sohail
6. Usman Salahuddin
7. Sarfaraz Ahmed
8. Hasan Ali
9. Yasir Shah
10. Muhammad Amir
11. Junaid Khan(subject to form and if he is bowling 140+)/Usman Shinwari (subject to fitness)/Wahab Riaz (subject to form)
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Usman ???

Haris and Babar Azam for TESTS, on what basis / on what merit ?
 


16 MEMBER SQUAD - FOR TESTS IN ENGLAND 2018 :

01. Ahmed Shehzad (better than Sami Aslam in Tests)
02. Azhar Ali
03. Fawad Alam
04. Saad Ali
05. Asad Shafiq
06. Haris Sohail
07. Sarfaraz Ahmed
08. Muhammad Amir
09. Muhammad Abbas
10. Yasir Shah
11. Hasan Ali

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12. Bakcup Batsman 1 - Saad Nasim
13. Bakcup Batsman 2 - Usman Salahuddin
14. Backup Spinner - Shadab Khan
15. Bakcup Bowler 1 - Junaid Khan / Mir Hamza (if Junaid is unfit)
16. Bakcup Bowler 2 - Sadaf Hussain / Tabish Khan (any one)

DROPPED PLAYERS with REASONS :

1. Sami Aslam - Got chance in 13 Tests, played 25 Innings, NO Centuries, Scored 758 runs with the Average of 31.58, very low strike rate of 39.11, failed regularly in last 3 Test tours.

2. Shan Masood - Got chance in 12 Tests, played 24 innings, 1 Century (125), scored 565 runs with the Average of 23.54, very low strike rate of 40.29, failed regularly in last 3 Test tours.

3. Babar Azam - Brilliant ODI player, but FAILED in Test Format, Got chance in 11 Tests, played 22 innings, No Centuries, scored 475 runs with the Average of 23.75, very low strike rate of 44.18, failed regularly in last 3 Test tours.

4. Wahab Riaz - Highly over-rated bowler. No reasonable performance, Sadaf Hussain, Muhammad Abbas, Hasan Ali, Junaid Khan, Tabish Khan and Mir Hamza are more better, more accurate & more competitive than Wahab Riaz.


NOTE : Babar Azam, Fakhar Zaman, Faheem Ashraf, Rumman Raees are brilliant players in Limited Overs Cricket. Please DO NOT spoil their career by selecting them in Tests again and again. They should completely focus on their Limited Overs career, since they become mature enough to play Test Cricket.
 
Ahson8 said:
What about Mir Hamza ? Think he will enjoy Ireland conditions especially
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He can be an excellent option in English / Irish conditions. If Junaid is unfit or won't be selected, then I think Mir Hamza is the best alternate.
 
Extra_Cover said:
I'm surprised none of the squads above include Saad Ali, whats the point of being the leading run scorer in QEA if you aint gonna get a nod.

Saad Ali, Umar Amin and Saud Shakeel should be on selection radar for tests. Pakistan just lost 2-0 to Sri Lanka in UAE primarily due to poor batting and the above squads still consist of those batting failures.
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Saud Shakeel is a good talent but Saad Ali & Fawad Alam are more deserving as compared to Saud Shakeel. Umar Amin is a useless option, he got enough chances in Tests as well as we have better talent than Umar Amin, Hence Haris Sohail is much better than Umar Amin.
 
junaidji said:
1. Imam Ul Haq
2. Sami Aslam
3. Azhar Ali
4. Fawad Alam
5. Haris Sohail
6. Asad Shafique
7. Sarfaraz Ahmed
8. Yasir Shah
9. Hasan Ali
10. Mohammad Abbas
11. Junaid Khan/Shadab Khan

Before you all think I'm hopping on the Fawad Alam bandwagon, please do note that PCB invited him to the National Cricket Academy for coaching, so hopefully there's a chance he's selected (only time will tell). Yes, I also understand he's 32 years old and there may be a push for youngsters, but he's that stable middle order batsman we need who could fill the gap of Misbah/Younis that's really hurting us. No one really has the experience right now. He could retire after the 2021 planned Test Cricket World Cup Final (if Pak makes it to the finals). At least give out some justice where it's deserved. You may ask, "what if he underperforms?" And my answer to that question is that there's no harm in trying, we have nothing to lose considering the condition of of our test team, so at least try, maybe the change will work, if it doesn't, then we could move towards other options.

Also, I don't think Mohammad Amir should play Tests. He's simply too prone to injuries, and PCB needs to manage his schedule better. He's good for LOI, and I don't feel at this stage of his career he needs tests. I would have even said Hasan, but I feel that he could actually grow as a bowler from test cricket, my only stipulation be that he do it while doing his best to keep fit and avoid getting injured frequently. And Babar Azam in my opinion is just simply not suited to the Test Format, better for LOI.
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There is no reason what so ever to select Sami Aslam, Shan Masood & Babar Azam for the TEST Format. Sami Aslam Got chance in 13 Tests, played 25 Innings, NO Centuries, Scored 758 runs with the Average of 31.58, very low strike rate of 39.11, failed regularly. Isn't fair enough to give opportunity to the youngster to explore himself. I think Sami Aslam got fair enough opportunities.
 
SarfiBabarHaris said:
Umar Amin will fail badly in England.
I wasn't impressed by Saad when I saw him (2 times) but due to his legendary stats this season, he deserves a go (atleast in the squad). A player can be lucky in few innings but not in 10 innings.
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You are damn right about Umar Amin. I think Haris Sohail is far better than Umar Amin.


Regarding SAAD ALI - I would say that to win matches, Team needs runs & wickets. If a player is technically bad and can score big runs, then YES he is WORTHY but if a player is technically good and can't score big runs, then he is USELESS.

Techniques doesn't matter, runs matters. Examples : Joe Root, Chanderpaul, Mark Waugh, Dhoni etc etc. Long list.
 
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babajee said:
The problem is that Shafiq isn’t going anywhere soon especially after his last innings, knowing Mickey.

I think Saad will be selected in the squad but not in the XI.

I hope Babar will come good in England as his strength is against pace so it is the perfect venue for him to announce himself in test match cricket.
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There is no reason what so ever to select Sami Aslam, Shan Masood & Babar Azam for the TEST Format.

1 - Sami Aslam Got chance in 13 Tests, played 25 Innings, NO Centuries, Scored 758 runs with the Average of 31.58, very low strike rate of 39.11, failed regularly. Isn't fair enough to give opportunity to the youngster to explore himself. I think Sami Aslam got fair enough opportunities.

2 - Babar Azam - Brilliant ODI player, but FAILED in Test Format, Got chance in 11 Tests, played 22 innings, No Centuries, scored 475 runs with the Average of 23.75, very low strike rate of 44.18, failed regularly in last 3 Test tours.
 
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COMPARISON BETWEEN SAMI ASLAM, SHAN MASOOD & BABAR AZAM IN TEST FORMAT :

1. Sami Aslam - Got chance in 13 Tests, played 25 Innings, NO Centuries, Scored 758 runs with the Average of 31.58, very low strike rate of 39.11, failed regularly in last 3 Test tours.

2. Shan Masood - Got chance in 12 Tests, played 24 innings, 1 Century (125), scored 565 runs with the Average of 23.54, very low strike rate of 40.29, failed regularly in last 3 Test tours.

3. Babar Azam - Brilliant ODI player, but FAILED in Test Format, Got chance in 11 Tests, played 22 innings, No Centuries, scored 475 runs with the Average of 23.75, very low strike rate of 44.18, failed regularly in last 3 Test tours.
 
COMPARISON BETWEEN SAMI ASLAM, SHAN MASOOD & BABAR AZAM IN TEST FORMAT :

1. Sami Aslam - Got chance in 13 Tests, played 25 Innings, NO Centuries, Scored 758 runs with the Average of 31.58, very low strike rate of 39.11, failed regularly in last 3 Test tours.

2. Shan Masood - Got chance in 12 Tests, played 24 innings, 1 Century (125), scored 565 runs with the Average of 23.54, very low strike rate of 40.29, failed regularly in last 3 Test tours.

3. Babar Azam - Brilliant ODI player, but FAILED in Test Format, Got chance in 11 Tests, played 22 innings, No Centuries, scored 475 runs with the Average of 23.75, very low strike rate of 44.18, failed regularly in last 3 Test tours.


All 3 has almost similar record in the TESTS. Still we want to select them again. Why ?.. On what merit they should be selected instead of SAAD ALI - the HIGHEST RUNS SCORER in QUAID E AZAM TROPHY 2017-18
 
prop558 said:
There is no reason what so ever to select Sami Aslam, Shan Masood & Babar Azam for the TEST Format.

1 - Sami Aslam Got chance in 13 Tests, played 25 Innings, NO Centuries, Scored 758 runs with the Average of 31.58, very low strike rate of 39.11, failed regularly. Isn't fair enough to give opportunity to the youngster to explore himself. I think Sami Aslam got fair enough opportunities.

2 - Babar Azam - Brilliant ODI player, but FAILED in Test Format, Got chance in 11 Tests, played 22 innings, No Centuries, scored 475 runs with the Average of 23.75, very low strike rate of 44.18, failed regularly in last 3 Test tours.
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prop558 said:
COMPARISON BETWEEN SAMI ASLAM, SHAN MASOOD & BABAR AZAM IN TEST FORMAT :

1. Sami Aslam - Got chance in 13 Tests, played 25 Innings, NO Centuries, Scored 758 runs with the Average of 31.58, very low strike rate of 39.11, failed regularly in last 3 Test tours.

2. Shan Masood - Got chance in 12 Tests, played 24 innings, 1 Century (125), scored 565 runs with the Average of 23.54, very low strike rate of 40.29, failed regularly in last 3 Test tours.

3. Babar Azam - Brilliant ODI player, but FAILED in Test Format, Got chance in 11 Tests, played 22 innings, No Centuries, scored 475 runs with the Average of 23.75, very low strike rate of 44.18, failed regularly in last 3 Test tours.
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You want Khurram Manzoor as opener.

Why haven't you provided his stats?
 
mak36 said:
You want Khurram Manzoor as opener.

Why haven't you provided his stats?
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Because I provided the stats of only those players whom I opted to drop from the side. Otherwise people would have been asking me that why I'm insisting to drop Sami Aslam & Babar Azam... So thats I have their poor statistics.

Sami Aslam & Shan Masood both are tested and failed over the years. Other than these two we have no reasonable option to play as the Openers in TEST Format. Salman Butt is corrupt & convicted internationally. Sharjeel Khan too was convicted and banned due to spot fixing.

Leaving behind the following options, to start innings with Azhar Ali :

Khuram Manzoor
Fakhar Zaman
Ahmed Shehzad

Now leave Fakhar Zaman as he is good in Limited overs cricket, but not suitable for TEST Format. So who left ?
 
mak36 said:
You want Khurram Manzoor as opener.

Why haven't you provided his stats?
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Now I gave you stats for all the 3 failed batsmen in Tests, so now you tell me that on what basis / merit you are advocating for Sami Aslam for tests ? ....

While Babar can get 'another chance' in Tests, due to his excellent ODI record, but I don't think that he should be selected again for tests as excellent talents are awaiting to be selected for the National side, Fawad Alam, Usman Salahuddin, Saad Ali, Saud Shakeel..
 
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