What we have learnt from this series...

[sadida97]

1-Umer Akmal hasn't changed…
2-Hasnain isn't ready
3-Imad wasim should be in the playing Eleven
4-Shan isn't good enough/ready for ODIs
5-We need a better opener than imam, even though he had a good psl.
6-Malik isn't a good batsman or even a good enough player to be starting.
7-We can't rely on faheem's batting

Discuss.

 

[Abdullah]

Our optimal team is the CT final team.
Azhar out, imam/Shan in
Amir/Junaid out , Shaheen in

I wanted Shan to edge out imam but he hasn't
Sarfaraz needs to man up and bat at 4 with hafeez at 6.

If hafeez bowling is not up to scratch play haris at 4, sarfaraz 5 and Malik at 6 ( haris will need to get the hurry on as Babar will hold)
I'm also wary of haris non existent running between the wickets which is why I want sarfaraz up there , as he is great at manouvering spinners and is an agreessive runner

 

[Plumb]

8- You can't fix stupid..

 

[Arsalan Pro]

That we shouldn't rest key players so close to the WC and instead do it against teams like Zimbabwe

Yasir Shah is probably the Worst spin bowler to ever play for Pakistan in LOI cricket.

Mohammad Abbas is only good for Test cricket.

We still can't chase targets properly.

Most of our players are only minnow bashers.

 

[Hasan123]

That Inzi is an even worse selector than we thought.

 

[Cric1234]

Mickey doesn't like criticism but is becoming more clueless.

 

[giri26]

There is not much strength on the bench?

 

[a_tahir]

There is not much strength on the bench?

Imagine if this team played in aus. Like the indian team used their bench for the 4th and 5th odis?

481 would have been broken.

 

[nextover666666]

I found Shan wasn't that bad id take him over imam any day but what we learned is our bench strength is clearly not strong enough

In regards to wicket keeping skills it self Rizwan is way better than Sarfraz

 

[Mamoon]

Rizwan is far better than Sarfaraz.

 

[Bilal7]

As of the fourth ODI:

- Umar Akmal hasn't changed... but is still good enough to merit a place in the team.

- Haris Sohail should be batting at #3 or #4 and bowling some cheap overs.

- Junaid is still one of our best pacers and should be at the WC.

- Faheem is a thoroughly mediocre player and a failed investment. Imad has the potential to become a proper all-rounder.

- Rizwan is a good backup keeper- batsman but Abid might be better.

 

[The_Odd_One]

Sarfraz does not deserve a spot on the team.

 

[Saj]

That it seems the think-tank may have accidentally stumbled across their 3rd opener for the World Cup.

 

[Stewie]

If anything the thinktank will be more confused now than never and it’s all their own doing. Only one solid result is that Imad is not a quality player.. I think most will agree. He is not a batsman or a bowler.

Confusions:
Rizwan or Sarfaraz
Abid or shan masood or umer
Can Hafeez and malik be replaced with any of the three mentioned above.
Junaid or amir or Hasnain?
Should Yasir be considered seriously? I would say... yes.. personal bias.. I love that guy and I think on England pitches he will get the ball to spin.. when it seams it spins..

 

[RickyG]

Abid Ali is better than Shan Masood and might be better than Imam.

Scoring 100s is easy winning matches is hard.

Haris Sohail is overrated and shouldn't be playing ODIs.

Rizwan has done enough to get himself on the plane even though he can't finish a match to save his life.

Sarfraz is on thin ice and needs to bat in the middle order or be gone.

Shoaib Malik should not be an automatic starter.

The last batting spot will be between Rizwan and Umar Akmal.

We don't know who our third seamer is.

Yasir Shah is not our specialist spinner in ODIs.

The starting xi should be:
Fakhar/Imam
Abid Ali
Babar Azam
Sarfraz
Hafeez
Umar Akmal/Rizwan (Malik on the bench)
Imad Wasim
Shadab/Faheem
Hasan Ali
Shaheen Shah Afridi
Shinwari/Amir/Junaid

Only 2 of Junaid Amir and Shinwari will be on the plane to England.

Malik will keep his place in the squad if not the team so one of Rizwan or Akmal will retain their place in the team.

 

[srh]

* Abid has to open with Fakhar. Enough of Imam.
* No more Rizwan in the team.
* Arthur has to be replaced as coach.

 

[RickyG]

If anything the thinktank will be more confused now than never and it’s all their own doing. Only one solid result is that Imad is not a quality player.. I think most will agree. He is not a batsman or a bowler.

Confusions:
Rizwan or Sarfaraz
Abid or shan masood or umer
Can Hafeez and malik be replaced with any of the three mentioned above.
Junaid or amir or Hasnain?
Should Yasir be considered seriously? I would say... yes.. personal bias.. I love that guy and I think on England pitches he will get the ball to spin.. when it seams it spins..

Both Rizwan and Sarfraz will be in the squad I think but Sarfraz can no longer be a specialist captain. He should be doing what Rizwan did today. He's still a better batsman than Rizwan but needs to bat at 4 or 5 to show that.

Abid. Shan Masoods no longer in the running.

Hafeez is our most effective middle order batsman after Babar. He might be our only match winner. Haris needs the boot from ODI's. Malik doesn't make the team on merit anymore. Umar Akmal is an Akmal.

Junaid, Amir or Shinwari. 2 make it on to the plane. Hasnain is too raw.

No. Yasir is done. He is not the best ODI spinner in Pakistan. Imad and Shadab are better than him. There might be others in the domestic circuit that merit a spot over him.

 

[greatest]

Relax guys, these are more of a practice games. We will show our A game in the World Cup. After all we are one of the favourites to win the tournament. We are the cornered tigers!

 

[Seamer]

After this series I would want this squad for England series and the world cup:

1. Fakhar Zaman
2. Abid Ali
3. Babar Azam
4. Haris Sohail
5. Hafeez
6. Sarfaraz
7. Imad Wasim
8. Faheem Ashraf
9. Hassan Ali
10. Amir
11. Junaid Khan

12. Shadab Khan
13. Shaheen Afridi
14. Malik
15. Rizwan

 

[Plumb]

8- You can't fix stupid..

repeating the same...

 

[Bleedgreen4ever]

1-Umer Akmal hasn't changed…
2-Hasnain isn't ready
3-Imad wasim should be in the playing Eleven
4-Shan isn't good enough/ready for ODIs
5-We need a better opener than imam, even though he had a good psl.
6-Malik isn't a good batsman or even a good enough player to be starting.
7-We can't rely on faheem's batting

Discuss.

Sarfraz is the best captain we have had in the last 20 years.
Babar is the fulcrum of our batting.
Fakhar is a must for a rapid start.
Hassan Ali and Shaheen needed in the Middle Overs.
Bye Bye to Amir,Yasir,Malik and U Akmal.

 

[msb314]

Umar Akmal/Shan/Imam all need to be booted out ASAP...

 

[Stewie]

I like imam.. think we should keep him. I don’t know about Haris Sohail though. Same for malik. He will be a walking wicket in England.

 

[Markhor]

Pakistan have desperately lacked a lower order finisher since Abdul Razzaq. In these situations you need someone who can strike 40 from 30 and get you over the line.

We've tried Umar Akmal who's too brainless for the finishing role, Asif Ali lacks concentration, Shadab and Faheem are awful batsmen, while Imad doesn't seem to have the ability either.

So Hafeez must play at 6 in the World Cup. He played the finisher's role to perfection v South Africa in the Port Elizabeth ODI albeit at 4.

 

[BleedGreen]

Hasnain is no where near ready.

Abid Ali is a strong contender for WC 19 spot.

This series is the last we should hear of Umar Akmal. Yasir should never be in LOI either.

Rizwan has improved but isn't a match winner.

Shinwari is another Wahab. A hero one day who leaks runs the next.

1. Fakhar
2. Imam
3. Babar
4. Abid (if he can play mid order)
5. Malik
6. Sarfaraz
7. Imad
8. Shadab
9. Faheem
10. Hasan Ali
11. Shaheen Afridi

12. Junaid/Amir
13. Hafeez
14. Haris Sohail
15. Another spinner.

 

[Chief Destroyer]

Hasnain, Rizwan and Abid strengthen our team. It would've been great if Zafar was given a chance.

 

[Zaz]

Pakistan have desperately lacked a lower order finisher since Abdul Razzaq. In these situations you need someone who can strike 40 from 30 and get you over the line.

We've tried Umar Akmal who's too brainless for the finishing role, Asif Ali lacks concentration, Shadab and Faheem are awful batsmen, while Imad doesn't seem to have the ability either.

So Hafeez must play at 6 in the World Cup. He played the finisher's role to perfection v South Africa in the Port Elizabeth ODI albeit at 4.

hafeez is a good shout as a finsher at 5-6 He did the role in the champions trophy final

he has the ability to hit boundaries with minimal risk This is where u akmal and ali are lacking who are basically glorfied sloggers

Its one area we are lacking big time

 

[Titan24]

Hasnain, Rizwan and Abid strengthen our team. It would've been great if Zafar was given a chance.

A decent spinner in UAE in Pak lineup might have made this series more competitive.

 

[Zaz]

1. Fakhar
2. Abid
3. Babar
4 Rizwan
5 Hafeez
6. Sarfaraz
7. Imad
8. Shadab
9 Amir
10 Hasan Ali
11 Shaheen Afridi

 

[KhanPathan1996]

A good spinner is needed plus remember this is a flat dead UAE wicket, I am positive that in English pitches there is going to be better performances by the fast bowlers.

 

[Titan24]

Haris Sohail and Shan Masood arent suited for ODI cricket.

Umar Akmal re endorsed that he isnt a finisher if Pak managment needed any more proof than 100+ ODIs.

We need one good hitter out of Asif Ali, Iftikhar Ahmed and Sohail Akhtar or make Hafeez fill that role to give that much needed punch in the later half of the innings. A hitter or a finisher is just as important as having other players in the team, it doesnt matter if we dont have a good one. In LOIs you need one just like you need opening batsmen, WK, spinner etc. Not having a good one doesnt mean you dont select one.

 

[Titan24]

1. Fakhar
2. Abid
3. Babar
4 Rizwan
5 Hafeez
6. Sarfaraz
7. Imad
8. Shadab
9 Amir
10 Hasan Ali
11 Shaheen Afridi

Same except I would swap the positions of Hafeez and Sarfaraz to make them more effective.

 

[urnotserious]

That Pakistan is a minnow.

 

[Hasan123]

That Inzi is a awful selector.

 

[SensiblePakFan]

1-Umer Akmal hasn't changed…
2-Hasnain isn't ready
3-Imad wasim should be in the playing Eleven
4-Shan isn't good enough/ready for ODIs
5-We need a better opener than imam, even though he had a good psl.
6-Malik isn't a good batsman or even a good enough player to be starting.
7-We can't rely on faheem's batting

Discuss.

3-*Should'nt

 

[SarfiBabarHaris]

That Mickey is not as good as i thought and poor at identifying talent. kind of assured after his poor stint with Karchi Kings year after year.

 

[moghul]

1-Harris Sohail can score some useless runs , won’t be any good for team, too slow and his fitness is not of international standard.
2-Unfortunately we are stuck with Sarfraz and he has to play, but we a far far better keep/batsman in Rizwan.
3-Hasnain is good for WC, he will learn quickly in matches leading to WC.
4- Abid is creating problem for Bhanja .
5- wish we had prepared a specialist spinner for the World Cup , not just Imad and Shahab, and please no Yasir for ODI .

 

[Justcrazy]

Problem with Pakistan is that they already have Sarfaraz as captain , so you are forced to waste a spot in playing XI.

Best solution right now would be for Sarfaraz to drop himself.

Try and get in a specialist spinner in the XI.

Get at least 5 proper batsmen in the Team , batsmen who can bat till 40th over at least.

 

[Hawkeye]

That Sarfraz's place is in danger.

Another wicketkeeper batsman can do the same job as him and infact, on current form he's doing much better.

Both have a limited game though and cannot take the attack back to the bowlers. But both know how to avoid too many dot balls.

 

[ar2020]

We have learnt to lower our expectations. Before this series there was a lot of talk here from silly posters that Pakistan is one of the favorites for the upcoming World Cup. We have learnt to lower our expectations because the team is utter crap.

We can never beat India or Australia so those are two automatic loses.

Will most likely lose to NZ, England, SA as well.

We MIGHT beat West Indies, Afghanistan, Bangladesh and Sri Lanka.

Most likely looking at a record of around 4 wins and 5 losses.

 

[MT786]

That even if there are 19 runs to get and 6 wickets in hand pakistan will still find a way to lose. So lower your expectations of the world cup.

 

[Minnowbasher]

This series has once again reminded us how incompetent the Pakistan team management, selectors and coaching staff especially are. Mickey Arthur has been exposed as have the other coaching staff. Unfortunately we have to stick with them for this world cup. I fear a very poor world cup is coming up for Pakistan. God forbid we may face humiliation by even Afghanistan.

Need to play the ct17 type combo.
Imam
Fakhar
Babar
Hafeez
Malik
Sarfraz
Imad
Shadab
Shaheen
Hasan
Junaid/Amir

 

[PakSarZameen]

That even if there are 19 runs to get and 6 wickets in hand pakistan will still find a way to lose. So lower your expectations of the world cup.

Relax, this will never happen with Hafeez and Malik. You can call them mediocre or flawed technically but mentally they are very strong and 9 out of 10 times, they will chase down 60-70 runs at 6-7 RPO.

 

[PakLFC]

We can't chase when batting second and can't get a good score when setting a target. We lack hard hitters at the bottom end of the batting order which is a big reason for concern. If this was a series to give the bench warmers a chance to shine then it has been a disaster. Need to play our best eleven in the England series.

 

[light]

You probably forgot to add #8. Don't rest your Keyplayers right before WC. This was the perfect opportunity to sort out issues, instead rested the whole squad and issues will remain. Also, regardless of Aus B or C, you don't rest your keyplayers against AUS. This isn't Zim!

 

[Mujtaba2900]

Doesn't matter what You Think Or Is your best squad .This Is how it's Gonna Turn Out.
First Choice Combination for Batting For Starting Matches.
1.Fakhar
2.Imam.
3Babr.
4.Sarfraz.
5.Malik
6.Hafeez.
7.Faheem.
2nd Choice Batting Combination
1.Fakhar/Imam/Babar
2.Fakhar/Imam/Babar
3.Babar Azam/Haris
4.Sarfraz.
5.Haris/Umar Akmal/Rizwan
6.Hafeez/Malik
7.Imad

Now Bowling Combinations.
1.Hasan
2.Shaheen
3.Amir./Shinwari
4.Shadab
Or
Hasan
Shaheen
Amir/Junaid
4.Shadab/Faheem

15.member Squad.
1.Fakhar.2.Imam.3.Babar.
4.Sarfraz.5Hafeez.6.Malik.7.Imad.8.Shadab.9.Faheem.10Shaheen.
11.Hasan.12.Amir.13.Junaid/Shinwari. 14.Rizwan/Umar Akmal akmal15.Abid Ali/Shaan/Harris Sohail.
If Haris Came Into The Squad Don't Think There is any chance of Abid Or Shaan .

So What Do You Think.
The Only Reason We Did Lost This Australia series because of Incompetent Captains (Imad/Shoiab)
AND Inexperienced Team.
Our Core Team Has Now Both The Experience And Somewhat a Better Captain.So Don't Worry We will play semifinal for sure.







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[Finisher]

Lacking big hitting batsmen.
Asif Ali is the only batsman who could clear the boundary on a good ball the rest need pies to clear it

 

[moghul]

That Inzi and Mickey has done really bad job during their tenure.

 

[ar2020]

We have learnt Pakistan lacks cricket talent in abundance. We always thought there is so much great talent. But this series showed we can only field one starting XI that can even have a chance against most teams.

 

[Cric1234]

Expect the unexpected or maybe not.