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What were the reasons for Pakistan's loss in the 2nd Test against Sri Lanka?

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Azhar, Fawad, Hasan, Fahim, Yasir, Nauman and Sarfraz need to go!!!

No point to carry no expired and useless players if they don't perform.

I would like to put Salman in the list but would like to give him few tests before discarding.

Your opinion please!!!!
 
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Our fast bowling is just cursed. None of them can last more than 100-120 Test wickets for the past decade or so
 
Azhar: too old and WAY past his sell by date. Replace with Saud Shakeel
Fawad: cannot perform. 10 years too late to be brought into the side. Replace with Kamran Ghulam.
Hasan: put him on the bench. Naseem and Shaheen are starting pacers. Maybe bring Abbas in for Hasan too.
Faheem: has improved his batting of late. Happy for him to benchwarm.
Yasir: still our best spinner imo. Old but we have noone better so he should stick around.
Nauman: useless bowler.
Sarfraz: Blood Haris. Sarfraz' time has gone...
 
Our fast bowling is just cursed. None of them can last more than 100-120 Test wickets for the past decade or so

Shaheen got injured on 99 wickets. He will get to 200-250 or even more pretty easily unless something goes completely wrong.
 
Hasan, Faheem need to get form back by playing domestic cricket and then make a comeback based upon performances as they still have some years in them. Yasir is in his twilight as well but, if shows some form can be considered because of lack of wicket taking spinners.

Rest need to go as there is no point.
 
Reasons why Pakistan lost? Lets be honest, Sri Lanka got lucky with the toss in both games. There is no doubt in my mind that Pakistan would have scored heavily batting first in the second game and Sri Lanka would have had to bat on 5th day... this is just an excuse though. Pak should have been able to beat a poor SL side regardless of toss. Other reasons for the loss include horrible team selection, toothless batting and poor selection, weak spin department.
 
Also laptop selector M Wasim, M Yousuf and Signboard head coach need to go.
 
What we have done in WTC losing to Aus in home, losing to Sl and WI. Sl and WI cost us 60 points. We have missed a golden opportunity to reach the final. Only problem is a spinner and a genuine Hussey type no 7 batsman, so important these days.
 
The main reason is, Srilanka is a better and well rounded test team at home compared to Pakistan.

Pakistan is too much dependent on Babar Azam. With Rizwan in a decline, Shaheen Afridi being ineffective in these conditions and with no world class spinners, the dependency on one man is too much. You dont win a test match like that.

Actually, apart from the final day...SL outplayed Pakistan even in 1st test. Who knows, had Theeksena not got injured, SL might have won that game too.
 
Ramiz should be hold accountable for unskilled coaching staffs along with no fielding coach.
 
The main reason is, Srilanka is a better and well rounded test team at home compared to Pakistan.

Pakistan is too much dependent on Babar Azam. With Rizwan in a decline, Shaheen Afridi being ineffective in these conditions and with no world class spinners, the dependency on one man is too much. You dont win a test match like that.

Actually, apart from the final day...SL outplayed Pakistan even in 1st test. Who knows, had Theeksena not got injured, SL might have won that game too.

Shaheen actually was very effective. His crucial 4 1st inning wickets was what set up the 1st test, which otherwise could've been a huge 1st inning score.
We really really missed Shaheen this game. Considering Naseem was our best bowler this game, Shaheen's wickets might have still saved us, inspite of our pathetic spinners.
 
It's always your bowling that wins you test matches. You can a team out with good batting but you can't win test matches. Poor bowling in both innings to let Sri Lanka off the hook. If the target was around 300, it could have been achieved. Anything above that with the sort of spinners Sri Lanka has there was never any chance. We should be happy and content with the win the first match, Sri Lanka should have won that as well.
 
Pool team selection cost match, Babar is great batsman and improving day by day , but his team selection is very poor moreover he is not learning from past mistakes , seems stubborn.
 
It's always your bowling that wins you test matches. You can a team out with good batting but you can't win test matches. Poor bowling in both innings to let Sri Lanka off the hook. If the target was around 300, it could have been achieved. Anything above that with the sort of spinners Sri Lanka has there was never any chance. We should be happy and content with the win the first match, Sri Lanka should have won that as well.

Nah, bowling wasn't the biggest factor this game. Our spinners were poor but if the batting plays like this, no bowling is going to win you matches.

It was a very good track to bat when we mustered a pathetic 230 in 1st innings. From there on, we were chasing shadows but we still could've drawn if only the batsmen had gone in with the right mindset. We mostly gifted our wickets.
 
Reasons for 2 poor tests matches.

Picking useless players like Agha, fawad, Azhar, nauman, Hasan

Batting nawaz at 7 as all rounder his batting is that of a tail ender

using rizwan at number 4/5 with bat

all self inflicted moronic decisions.
 
M Yusuf is good

He might have changed now but the guy doesn’t give me the best feeling knowing all of the internal beefs he has been a part of as a player. If he gets sacked, you will see him run his motormouth on the media like no tomorrow
 
Reasons for 2 poor tests matches.

Picking useless players like Agha, fawad, Azhar, nauman, Hasan

Batting nawaz at 7 as all rounder his batting is that of a tail ender

using rizwan at number 4/5 with bat

all self inflicted moronic decisions.

Babar is very close minded

I think he genuinely believes the social media/tik tok hype that Babar, Rizwan and Shaheen are the only useful players in the land of Pakistan. Hence he is now trying to sort out his mate with a batting position that belongs to a PROPER BATSMAN and hoping for him to convert into a 50+ average player
 
Abdullah Shafiq
Shaan Masood
Imam
Babar
Saud Shakil
Haris(as wk)
Zafar gouhar
Yasir
H.rouf
Shaheen
Naseem
 
We need bowlers who can win matches. Our batting has always been and will be dubious.

Time to have a look at Dahani, Waseem & Arshad for test cricket.

I would also have a sincere word with Rizwan if he is really interested in red ball.
 
Reasons for 2 poor tests matches.

Picking useless players like Agha, fawad, Azhar, nauman, Hasan

Batting nawaz at 7 as all rounder his batting is that of a tail ender

using rizwan at number 4/5 with bat

all self inflicted moronic decisions.

After so many mistakes you think one can win test match.
 
Sri Lanka are a better team.

There are only 3 x good players in the Pakistan side - Babar, Rizwan and Shaheen. The rest are poor. Bring back Shan Masood.
 
Azhar, Fawad, Hasan, Fahim, Yasir, Nauman and Sarfraz need to go!!!

No point to carry no expired and useless players if they don't perform.

I would like to put Salman in the list but would like to give him few tests before discarding.

Your opinion please!!!!

Absolutely, too much deadwood and garbage being selected. Players that might have been good seven or eight years ago still being picked but are now expired.

Anyway, perfect excuse to bring back Azhar as they'll say we missed his 'experience'. Yeah, we really missed his awesome 9 runs across two inns in the last Test match.
 
Saqlain Mushtaq and his moronic team combination

Going a batsman light because you want 5 bowlers with none of the 5 bowlers capable of scoring runs even semi consistently.then one of the bowler underbowls anyway making the 5 bowler tactics useless.

Lack of trust in spinners means you pick a no rounder in Salman over a proper batsman which results in Rizwan moving away from his preferred batting position and having to bat in top order and keep wickets in this heat.

A better team combination and you take this series 1- 0 or even 2-0
 
Spinners are not so good for Pakistan.. They have to find some decent spinners to win against most of the teams in Asia.
 
Sri Lanka are a better team.

There are only 3 x good players in the Pakistan side - Babar, Rizwan and Shaheen. The rest are poor. Bring back Shan Masood.

The rest are poor and Shan isn’t lol. Shan probably has the worst average for a Pakistani opener ever.
 
Sri Lanka are a better team.

There are only 3 x good players in the Pakistan side - Babar, Rizwan and Shaheen. The rest are poor. Bring back Shan Masood.

at least they should have respected his current form but it seems something personal issue with Babar .
 
Overestimating the ability of certain players.

Mohammad Nawaz was selected as an allrounder when it's clear that he should be picked as a bowler with the ability to bat and should be batting now higher than 8.

Agha Salman too was selected as an AR, however his bowling is probably at the same level as Azhar and Babar's and his batting is not good enough to warrant a place in the XI.

Rizwan was played as a number 4 batsmen which does not suit him. Usually a teams best batsmen is played at 4 and that is definitely not Rizwan. He should have been played at 6 or 7

Bowling wise it seems to be that their is a deficit of any decent spinners. Yasir was poor and same with Nauman
 
Overestimating the ability of certain players.

Mohammad Nawaz was selected as an allrounder when it's clear that he should be picked as a bowler with the ability to bat and should be batting now higher than 8.

Agha Salman too was selected as an AR, however his bowling is probably at the same level as Azhar and Babar's and his batting is not good enough to warrant a place in the XI.

Rizwan was played as a number 4 batsmen which does not suit him. Usually a teams best batsmen is played at 4 and that is definitely not Rizwan. He should have been played at 6 or 7

Bowling wise it seems to be that their is a deficit of any decent spinners. Yasir was poor and same with Nauman

Exactly we are going a batsman or even two light and it regularly needs a ATG knock from Babar or Abdullah to bail the team out of trouble the 5 bowlers are not doing the job of bowling sides out quickly and one of the bowler mostly Hassan or Nauman gets underbiowled any way this diabolical team combination to change
 
Overestimating the ability of certain players.

Mohammad Nawaz was selected as an allrounder when it's clear that he should be picked as a bowler with the ability to bat and should be batting now higher than 8.

Agha Salman too was selected as an AR, however his bowling is probably at the same level as Azhar and Babar's and his batting is not good enough to warrant a place in the XI.

Rizwan was played as a number 4 batsmen which does not suit him. Usually a teams best batsmen is played at 4 and that is definitely not Rizwan. He should have been played at 6 or 7

Bowling wise it seems to be that their is a deficit of any decent spinners. Yasir was poor and same with Nauman

Yes definitely, Rizwan is not a no.4. Mind boggles at some of the decisions the thick tank make.
 
One dimensional batsmen who bat in a bygone era simply don't take the game to the opposition or show any flair or power hitting like the modern test batsmen have become thanks to t20 cricket simply prod along at one pace.

And a very poor bowling attack yasir and nawaz are OK since there are no other genuine options at domestic level but the third spinner that uncle nauman and pace bowling is not intl level .

Our pace bowling imo is a big concern considering some of the past bowlers we produced who had real physiques and pace and genuine strike bowlers .

I'm also not sold on Abdullah shafique who imo is another bat in your shell type batsmen who will bore you like Geoffrey boycott , in sena he will be exposed he doesn't fit the bill as a modern day opener.

There's a serious problem in our domestic cricket its simply not producing the results and not producing quality cricketers .
 
Pak Played well in First test and SL did bounce back well in seocnd test . So both team have to take the positives and negatives and no need to be critical of the teams performance .
 
So we picked 5 so called bowlers to take 20 wickets, then select Agha because he can bowl? why when babar n fawad can as well.

Also picking 5 bowlers should have been enough. morons in charge of team nerd to be sacked.
 
Domestic circuit not producing good enough cricketers to compete at the highest level for a sustainable period of time is the biggest issue.
Babar is the only world class player produced in the last 15 years.
It is easy to rise and play well a few series with novelty factor but for longevity many factors come in when teams come prepared with plans against you.
 
Batting last didn't help, not having 6 proper batsman including Shaan but the biggest factor is the terrible quality of spinners. Absolutely awful
 
Reality is Pakistan are minnows....
Only 2 proper batsman...
Not a single quality Spinner...
Zero Allrounder...
Just one fast bowler...
 
Imam, Azhar and Fawad should not be in the team, there are better batsmen than them available. Rizwan is a decent bat but he should not be batting at 4 in test cricket.
 
You have missed the following:
Fast bowlers cant bowl fast
Catchers cant catch

Shaheen, and Naseem did their job as fast bowlers on these dead wickets. That they comfortably outbowled Cummins-Starc here should be enough indication.

The spinners, Yasir in particular disappointed big time.
 
Spinners are not so good for Pakistan.. They have to find some decent spinners to win against most of the teams in Asia.

They need to learn to dominate teams in subcontinent. This is a quality that we have and gets underestimated.
 
This is highly disappointing, Pakistan on paper were the better team, add to that this Sri Lankan team just annoys the living hell out of me with their wacky celebrations...

Pakistani batting barring Babar is just not world class imo and that's where Pakistan lost it...
 
Well I said before the first test that you have to find a place for Shan Masood simply because of the sublime form he's in and the experience of playing and doing well in Sri Lanka.

Playing only 5 batsmen without Masood in the side was a recipe for disaster.

Our spin bowling options look poor but there were some ridiculously silly selections.

For example, you have a left arm spin bowling option in Khushdil who can actually spin the ball and can bat well at number 7 and has some experience in the shorter format and yet we opted for a complete rookie with zero experience.

Shadab should have been picked for this series to give him even more exposure to test cricket.
He is a real talent and extremely capable batsman. Playing him at 7 or 8 would have strengthened both our bowling and batting line-up.

Then you have Dahani who for some unknown reason never gets selected. He's ceiling is far higher then Naseem's plus he has a fluid action that allowed to him to generate pace without too much pressure on his body. Whereas Naseem has already had fitness issues and the slow wickets of Sri Lanka were never going to suit him.

It's crazy that we continue to back the wrong horses
 
The bowling is the bigger culprit imo. The batting is alright. Replace Fawad and maybe get in the extra batter.

But there's absolutely NO point in playing 5 bowlers if they aren't of a high quality. Seriously, the moment Shaheen is rested, the bowling is brutally exposed.

The biggest culprits for me are Hasan and Nauman . On current form, they are a complete waste of 2 spots .
 
Frankly speaking the first test was headed for similar result.SL jad outplayed Pakistan for most sessions of first test

However a once in 5 years type of innings in seco d inning from that new guy changed the result.it was more of a exception than the norm.

Those kind of innings will happen only once in a while and did not happen in second inning in 2nd test.
 
Many reasons but two most glaring ones.

1. Our spinners are pathetic. None of them look threatening at all. At best they are decent, but on pitches in SL, you need at least one threatening spinner and all we have is mediocre rubbish

2. Batting order after Babar, Abdullah and sometimes Imam is terrible. Rizwan is not a no4 and even if he was good enough to play as a batsman, I don’t know many keepers that have batted at such a pivotal position in the order.

I would also add that out think tank can’t even comfort us with the “Young team, they will learn” rubbish as they keep picking these oldies and even when they drop them, they replace with a like for like buddah
 
Aggressive captains prioritize form. They are not scared to drop out of form veterans for the sake of the team. Hasan Ali should have been benched. Less said about our spinners, the better.
 
Reasons why Pakistan lost? Lets be honest, Sri Lanka got lucky with the toss in both games. There is no doubt in my mind that Pakistan would have scored heavily batting first in the second game and Sri Lanka would have had to bat on 5th day... this is just an excuse though. Pak should have been able to beat a poor SL side regardless of toss. Other reasons for the loss include horrible team selection, toothless batting and poor selection, weak spin department.

Did you just argue against yourself there? :\
 
They gave Sri Lanka 100+ lead in 1st innings. That was decisive.

Batting was poor in both innings.
 
The key moment in the game was Pakistan allowing an injured Dimuth and an out of form Dhananjaya to get set at the crease by bowling Salman at the other end and then later even Babar bowled an over out of nowhere. Naseem had just gotten the big wicket of Chandimal and Sri Lanka were 115/5 (effectively 250/5). They could have penetrated through to their tail had they brought on Yasir or other lead spinner to get one more wicket.

Instead Dimuth and DDS got their eye in thanks to part timers and went on to put up a game defining partnership.
 
Reasons why Pakistan lost? Lets be honest, Sri Lanka got lucky with the toss in both games. There is no doubt in my mind that Pakistan would have scored heavily batting first in the second game and Sri Lanka would have had to bat on 5th day... this is just an excuse though. Pak should have been able to beat a poor SL side regardless of toss. Other reasons for the loss include horrible team selection, toothless batting and poor selection, weak spin department.

Even Australia got destroyed in the 2nd Test vs Sri Lanka. Winning Test matches on the road is not easy even if the team isn't as good as you.

Pakistan bowling is a big problem though. They struggled to get wickets vs Australia and while conditions were flat, Australia were still able to get our wickets outside of the 1st match. They struggled to get wickets vs Sri Lanka even though the pitch was fairly difficult. The spinners in particular, is a massive concern for Pakistan. They just haven't been good outside of Sajid helping us win a Test vs Bangladesh.
 
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The key moment in the game was Pakistan allowing an injured Dimuth and an out of form Dhananjaya to get set at the crease by bowling Salman at the other end and then later even Babar bowled an over out of nowhere. Naseem had just gotten the big wicket of Chandimal and Sri Lanka were 115/5 (effectively 250/5). They could have penetrated through to their tail had they brought on Yasir or other lead spinner to get one more wicket.

Instead Dimuth and DDS got their eye in thanks to part timers and went on to put up a game defining partnership.

That decision was completely stupid imo. It's all about grabbing these moments and Babar messed up royally there.
 
Several reasons come to mind but the main ones for me are:

The meek approach
The lack of gameplan against Jayasuriya
Team selection (5 batters only)
Poor captaincy and tactics
 
Please can somebody from management explain why a wicket-keeper batsman was playing at #4 in a Test ?

The horribly imbalanced team combination and a mediocre bowling attack that's been carried by one man in all forms was to blame. Babar's only successes as Test captain have come against South Africa (virtual minnows in Asia), Zimbabwe (actual minnows) and Bangladesh (who are a poor Test side).
 
Hasan Ali being picked while the likes of Mohammed Abbass is in England playing county. Joke .

Other than this, it was a spin track and Sri Lanka was motivated due to the crisis in their country.

1-1 isnt a bad end.
 
Several reasons come to mind but the main ones for me are:

The meek approach
The lack of gameplan against Jayasuriya
Team selection (5 batters only)
Poor captaincy and tactics

5 batters? i think your being generous there. Its basically Babar, Abdullah carrying this side plus rizwan as keeper batsmen.
 
Azhar, Fawad, Hasan, Fahim, Yasir, Nauman and Sarfraz need to go!!!

No point to carry no expired and useless players if they don't perform.

I would like to put Salman in the list but would like to give him few tests before discarding.

Your opinion please!!!!

Fahim didn't play this series ?
 
Azhar: too old and WAY past his sell by date. Replace with Saud Shakeel
Fawad: cannot perform. 10 years too late to be brought into the side. Replace with Kamran Ghulam.
Hasan: put him on the bench. Naseem and Shaheen are starting pacers. Maybe bring Abbas in for Hasan too.
Faheem: has improved his batting of late. Happy for him to benchwarm.
Yasir: still our best spinner imo. Old but we have noone better so he should stick around.
Nauman: useless bowler.
Sarfraz: Blood Haris. Sarfraz' time has gone...

Groom Haseebullah or Rohail Nazir haris is just to one dimensional
 
We lost due to a variety of reasons.

They went in with 2 batters light.
They picked three spinners not required even if the pitch is turning.
 
They need to play this team in asain conditions.

Abdullah.
Imaam didn't do that well thou.
Babar should continue batting at 3 set platform.
Saud Shakeel should be given a long run
Kamran Ghullam should be given a run.
Rizwan need to groom Haseebullah or Rohail.
Shadab Khan not sure about his bowling were he will be required to take wickets.
Nawaz done well with the ball.
Shaheen Afridi
Naseem Shah
Dahani

Bench players
Sameen Gull,khurram shezad,Irfanullah
Rohail Nazir
Yasir shah,Zahid Mahmood
Zafar Gohar
Haider Ali


Players who have potential
Mubasir Khan,Qasim Akram,Hurraira,Abdul Wahid,Ammad Alam,Abdul Faseeh
 
pakistan dont have any spinners, until that is resolved pak cannot be consistently competitive in asia.

the problems were compounded by crap fielding, and stupid selections, but the stupid selections were a result of having no trust worthy spinner.
 
Why we lost:

Spin Bowling: Our best spinner is simply not good enough. Yasir Shahs decline continues. He is unable to maintain his line and length and hence consistent pressure on a batman. Look at his bowling, every over there are 1 or 2 boundary balls. Nauman is an over-age domestic level bowler, not good enough.

Fast Bowling: The biggest problem is Hassan Ali. He is a complete passenger in the team, doesn't take wickets, leaks runs all the time. Secondly, we simply dont have good test level fast bowlers; who is there other than Shaheen? Naseem Shah is just average, and is not someone who is going to regularly take wickets. We have Haris Rauf of all people on the bench in our test squad, and then there is no one. Despite his lack of experience, I would have played Dahani over Hassan Ali, just because of how consistently bad Hasan has been. Abbas was exposed a long time ago, his 120kph deliveries are easily negated and isn't an option.

Batting: Bad selection. Imam is a questionable selection, but not the weakest link. The problem is persisting with the dinosaurs Azhar Ali and Fawad Alam. They contributed nothing. They should have been replaced by Kamran Ghulam and Saud Shakeel 2 years ago. Salman Ali Agha was a poor selection by Wasim and Babar, he's a domestic level player at best, not really international standard with either the bat or ball (but credit to him on his innings in the 2nd test). Given that he added nothing with the ball, they would have been better off strengthening the number 6 spot with a full batsmen.
 
You know your batting lineup is extremely fragile when you see test match wicket keeper coming in at no 4. Test match keeper should never come before 4 down at best.
 
Several reasons come to mind but the main ones for me are:

The meek approach
The lack of gameplan against Jayasuriya
Team selection (5 batters only)
Poor captaincy and tactics

So, I might be wrong because I didn't follow this series as closely, but by the looks of it...we weren't as bad as we typically are in our approach. I am talking specifically about our approach towards batting and strike rate...I thought we batted at a decent click?

Also Saj, we didn't lose the second test because we were one batter short. I think 5 bowlers is an aggressive approach and is worth sticking with.
 
It is disheartening because this is now a number of series where they're able to at first hide their weaknesses but as it goes on they get exposed. The same thing happened in the Australia series. By the end of the series you can barely watch them and only the direst of fans can stay committed.

They keep explaining away their obvious mistakes in press conferences and act as if they're learning and will change, but in reality have zero intention of changing anything. They just keep repeating the mistakes, and take us for fools. A few years ago it was Mickey Arthur and Sarfraz in UAE picking 4 pacers. Now this policy of going one or two specialist batsmen short is not something that just happened, they're going to keep doing it and select fake all-rounders, which never works in test cricket. Did Babar admit in any of the interviews that they made a mistake in going a batsman or two short?

Fawad is done, he's played his last innings, because--I've reluctantly come to realize--there does seem to be a bias against Karachi players. So they'll take this excuse to dump him. Although in this case, rightly so.

Azhar Ali I thought would announce his retirement at the end of the series. Has he done so? I wouldn't be surprised if this senior whose time was up 4 years ago came back.

Mohammad Waseem the selector is the least to blame. Inzi was okay too, because he picked people like Mir Hamza, and some batsmen and spinners that the captain and coach never even played. But Waseem wanted to start afresh and gave them a whole bunch of domestic performers. That was to introduce some much-needed rationality into the system. But what can he do if the people on the ground don't play Saud or Kamran or whoever?

There are boy geniuses like Abdullah Shafique (I don't grudge him, in his case it is richly deserved) or Naseem, who get picked over long-term performers, and then there are those who are destined to be on the margins, like Saud or Kamran. They just don't like them for whatever reason. And they'll do the same again and again.

For instance, instead of picking among the 3 or 4 spinners who've been performing for like 3-5 years, they'll suddenly pick someone we don't know about, some boy genius, and throw him to the lions. It's what they always do.

I'd suggested for the first test including Shan, Saud, Sarfraz, Faheem, Nauman (on the spinning first test wicket he would have been good) and not to have so many bowlers and 2 "all-rounders." Would that have been so bad? Would such a side have performed as poorly as they did in the second test? And to be honest, even for large parts of the first test, because it was only a once in a lifetime Abdullah Shafique inning that saved them.

There is no tactical management, no long-term team building, no vision, no planning, no nothing. That's all I've been seeing since 2015 in a thousand different ways, and I cannot believe that such short-sighted illiterates are running the Pakistan cricket team. It's all about winning the match at hand, winning even the dead rubber with a BD or Zimbabwe with your best possible team.

They can play seven T20s with England but mostly we'll get to see Rizwan and Babar hog the batting, batting slow, and hardly get to see any others. It's not like they'll try out a whole bunch of young new players in those seven T20s. In tests, it doesn't matter, how many or who they play, the same few favored people, while the others just sit on the sidelines.

They're not interested in developing specialist spinners, just don't want to make the effort. They'll pick someone out of the blue, they'll fail, then they dump them.

They never develop players alongside those who are fading out so there can be smooth transitions.
It's just Imam, Imam, Imam, playing his awkward game. It's just Rizwan, Rizwan, Rizwan, playing in the wrong format--although, what is his format?

Here's a team I would suggest for the future, knowing there's no chance, because they'll treat us ike we're morons, like we have no memory, and give nice press conferences and go back to the same tactics and players in a few months.

Abdullah Shafique (we have yet to see how he does outside Asia)
NOT IMAM (pick an attacking young opener, there are several choices; don't go back to Shan, now that you didn't give him a chance with such great form)
Saud Shakeel (other attacking young batsmen)
Babar Azam
Kamran Ghulam (other attacking young batsmen)
Rizwan (in tests, not ODIs)
Faheem/Nawaz (just one all-rounder)
NOT Nauman or Yasir (pick a young new specialist spinner, give him a whole bunch of games)
Dahani
SSA
Haris Rauf/Arshad Iqbal/Naseem
 
Also Saj, we didn't lose the second test because we were one batter short. I think 5 bowlers is an aggressive approach and is worth sticking with.

Even Australia do not play 5 bowlers.

I think 5 bowlers is risky because you are playing with a batsman short.
 
Well I said before the first test that you have to find a place for Shan Masood simply because of the sublime form he's in and the experience of playing and doing well in Sri Lanka.

Playing only 5 batsmen without Masood in the side was a recipe for disaster.

Our spin bowling options look poor but there were some ridiculously silly selections.

For example, you have a left arm spin bowling option in Khushdil who can actually spin the ball and can bat well at number 7 and has some experience in the shorter format and yet we opted for a complete rookie with zero experience.

Shadab should have been picked for this series to give him even more exposure to test cricket.
He is a real talent and extremely capable batsman. Playing him at 7 or 8 would have strengthened both our bowling and batting line-up.

Then you have Dahani who for some unknown reason never gets selected. He's ceiling is far higher then Naseem's plus he has a fluid action that allowed to him to generate pace without too much pressure on his body. Whereas Naseem has already had fitness issues and the slow wickets of Sri Lanka were never going to suit him.

It's crazy that we continue to back the wrong horses

Reluctantly, the only reason I can think of is that Dahani is from Larkana.
 
The main reason is, Srilanka is a better and well rounded test team at home compared to Pakistan.

Pakistan is too much dependent on Babar Azam. With Rizwan in a decline, Shaheen Afridi being ineffective in these conditions and with no world class spinners, the dependency on one man is too much. You dont win a test match like that.

Actually, apart from the final day...SL outplayed Pakistan even in 1st test. Who knows, had Theeksena not got injured, SL might have won that game too.

Whats the home record of Srl in the last decade and whats that of Pak? Numbers won’t back your statement. Don’t think Srl would be better even past MisYou.

Shaheen took a 4fer in the first innings of first test and then in the middle of 2nd he got injured. Most impactful single innings performance in last two series is Srl, including Aus pacers. Happy to stand corrected.

Rizwan’s decline? He has just played his 23-24 test match and he was played at no 4 by the management which is unheard of for the keeper. He averages 37 in 2022 currently and averaged 45 in 2022, you cant really say it to be a decline. Again numbers dont backing your statement.

Theekshana has 5 wickets in 2 matches at an average of 37, he is far from proven test quality at this point. Dhananjaya was bowling and looking threatening so its not like Srl didn’t have another option, also look at the amount of over or lack if them Theekshana has bowled anyways in the tests he has played.
 
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Whats the home record of Srl in the last decade and whats that of Pak? Numbers won’t back your statement. Don’t think Srl would be better even past MisYou..

Just for reference Pakistan have won 4 and lost 1 since test cricket has moved back to Pak in 2019.

Since 2019 Srl has won 6 and lost 5.
 
2 reasons:

1. Very poor spin attack for that surface
2. No batting besides Babar

Despite Shafique's hundred in the first Test, Pakistan probably has the most unreliable batting line up among top nations. None of them can be counted to score runs regularly except for Babar. The bowling attack had one terribly out of form pacer, 1 over the hill spinner, one over aged spinner and two possibly T20 bits & pieces spinners. You don't win regular Test matches on these type of wickets with this attack.
 
The difference between the spinners from both sides was staggering. We threw a series at home against Australia due to mediocre spin bowling, and now obviously couldn’t compete against a much better spin bowling attack of the Lankans.

We need to address this issue otherwise we will get smashed at home consistently from now on.
 
We need to realise that the PCB are happy being a mid-table team. So whilst we are disappointed not to win the series, the PCB management and the players are perfectly happy with the 1-1 draw.

It's wheels on the bus go round and round time- the next test series has a long gap so Fawad, Nauman, Azhar et al will wander off into the sunset and then appear again when the series starts to start their 9-5 jobs.
 
Just for reference Pakistan have won 4 and lost 1 since test cricket has moved back to Pak in 2019.

Since 2019 Srl has won 6 and lost 5.

Not sure about home record alone. However from 15th May 2017 (post misyou) to date, SL has a better W/L ratio against other top 8 sides than PAK does .

In fact only WI has a lower W/L ratio against top sides in this period. Not saying SL are definitely better but post MisYou, there's certainly an argument for that.
 
We need to realise that the PCB are happy being a mid-table team. So whilst we are disappointed not to win the series, the PCB management and the players are perfectly happy with the 1-1 draw.

It's wheels on the bus go round and round time- the next test series has a long gap so Fawad, Nauman, Azhar et al will wander off into the sunset and then appear again when the series starts to start their 9-5 jobs.

Exactly!!!! PCB is happy with the performance and want to be around 6-8.That's why PCB is never proactive to improve coaching staffs, grounds and selections. That's the only reason we got only 1 World Cup (which is also due to luck and PCB is happy as long as we can go to quarter/semi).
 
Whats the home record of Srl in the last decade and whats that of Pak? Numbers won’t back your statement. Don’t think Srl would be better even past MisYou


Think you've misunderstood his point.

He just said Sri Lanka are a better team at home (in Sri Lanka) than Pakistan, which I don't think is wrong by any means. They have a much better spin attack and their batters are also well equipped to take on spin as they showed this series. It may show 1-1 on paper but Sri Lanka were clearly the better of the two teams.
 
Kamran Akmal opines....

“The Pakistani team was comfortable with a single Test victory. They will now defeat the Netherlands, do well in the Asia Cup, and prevail. This Test series will not be remembered. They will sell a few quality innings in the market"

“For the past three to four years, this has been the story. They did not appear to be in town to play a Test match based on their body language. They merely attended to fulfill formalities.”
 
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