What's happened to the Pakistan T20I team?

[Muddaser]

Misbah doesn't help.

This guy couldn't score 1 off 3 then 6 off 4 in the final.

A choker is coaching our team.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Test match approach is totally unsuited to 20 over cricket. It's not a secret, many of us on here have been pointing this out for ages. Scores need to be closer to 200 these days but we are still pathetically posting scores of around 150 and hoping our bowlers will bail us out.

 

[PakPremi]

Time and again Pak select squads with no proper batsmen, and relying on mini all rounders. Babar loss was unfortunate but we have no developed batsman replacement for him in the squad. Haris Sohail could have done better job then trying out newbies in alien conditions.

 

[castortroy]

New Zealand dominance over Pak over recent years is starting to resemble the dominance the Australian used to have over us and to a certain degree, still have

 

[Shazzam]

I’d like to know the strike rate of our batsmen when they were under Mickey.

 

[tyron_woodley]

Time and again Pak select squads with no proper batsmen, and relying on mini all rounders. Babar loss was unfortunate but we have no developed batsman replacement for him in the squad. Haris Sohail could have done better job then trying out newbies in alien conditions.

India does the same in tests.

But what would be your ideal team for Pakistan? Just curious.

I don't mind seeing India lose in tests if they pick the best team available but they never do. That's the issue. Ofcourse there are injuries but there are still some other backups who have been really good in tours. Deserving a chance.

 

[PakPremi]

Ideally
Sharjeel/Zeeshan M
Babar
Haider(one young batsmen Ok)
Hafeez
Talat H
Shadab
Rohail N
Amar Yamin/Amad Butt
Zafar G/ Imad W/Usman Q
Haris R
Husnain
Shaheen
12 players rotated per conditions.

Atleast Amad, Yamin, Talat, Zafar have played lots of domestic cricket and PSL,unlike Abdullah.

 

[Markhor]

Ideally
Sharjeel/Zeeshan M
Babar
Haider(one young batsmen Ok)
Hafeez
Talat H
Shadab
Rohail N
Amar Yamin/Amad Butt
Zafar G/ Imad W/Usman Q
Haris R
Husnain
Shaheen
12 players rotated per conditions.

Atleast Amad, Yamin, Talat, Zafar have played lots of domestic cricket and PSL,unlike Abdullah.

I'd go for something similar: Sharjeel, Babar (c), Haider, Hafeez, Iftikhar (reluctantly, don't see Talat as a T20 batsman), Azam +, Shadab, Zafar, Amir (by sacking Misbah and Waqar), Shaheen, Rauf.

At least there's powerhitting at 1, 3, 4, 5, 6 and possibly 7 if Shadab can translate his PSL/NT20 form in internationals. Sharjeel and Azam selections are obviously fitness dependent.

 

[Bewal Express]

We are stuck in the 150-160 mode which on good wickets is short by 30 runs. We don't have the hitting anywhere in the team and because of that are players are short of confidence.

 

[Bewal Express]

Time and again Pak select squads with no proper batsmen, and relying on mini all rounders. Babar loss was unfortunate but we have no developed batsman replacement for him in the squad. Haris Sohail could have done better job then trying out newbies in alien conditions.

Haris is a terrible T20 player.

 

[Bewal Express]

Misbah doesn't help.

This guy couldn't score 1 off 3 then 6 off 4 in the final.

A choker is coaching our team.

If Misbah went tomorrow, we wouldn't suddenly find great players. The coaches don't make a difference either way, its the Captain who can make a difference as Morgan has shown

 

[Mr Crickekter]

Babar Azam ©
Sharjel khan
Hyder Ali
M Hafeez
Azam Khan (wk)
Shoib Malik
Danish Aziz
Imad wasim
Hasan Ali
M Hasnain
Shaheen

 

[shehzi]

Can someone give a stat.
Before misbah
After misbah ( how many matches lost/win) ?

 

[PakPremi]

Haris is a terrible T20 player.

You need proper batsman rather than relying on All rounders and sloggers who only can slog in helpful conditions and against mediocre bowling and play lots of dots. Haris has been given an example from the squad taken as there is none good enough with any middle order batting experience.

 

[PakPremi]

I'd go for something similar: Sharjeel, Babar (c), Haider, Hafeez, Iftikhar (reluctantly, don't see Talat as a T20 batsman), Azam +, Shadab, Zafar, Amir (by sacking Misbah and Waqar), Shaheen, Rauf.

At least there's powerhitting at 1, 3, 4, 5, 6 and possibly 7 if Shadab can translate his PSL/NT20 form in internationals. Sharjeel and Azam selections are obviously fitness dependent.

Talat is far better batsman than Khushdil and Iftikhar, he could build an inning, even if he does not strikes 6s willy nilly. He bat's at good strike rate from what I have seen recently.

 

[Bewal Express]

You need proper batsman rather than relying on All rounders and sloggers who only can slog in helpful conditions and against mediocre bowling and play lots of dots. Haris has been given an example from the squad taken as there is none good enough with any middle order batting experience.

Just doesn't have the game for T20, too reliant on the big shots with little in-between

 

[Angrez Pakistani]

They sacked a decent t20 skipper because they didn’t like the way he batted or the way he spoke. And it’s downhill from there on. Way to destroy a good t20 side.

 

[RyanRyan10]

Is Misbah responsible for destroying Pakistan T20 team?

Under Mickey, Pakistan won 30 and lost 7, W/L ratio: 4.29

And their record was impressive even against elite teams

Their W/L record against top teams:

Vs Aus- 5 wins and 1 loss

Vs NZ- 5 wins and 1 loss

Vs SA- 1 win and 2 losses

Vs Eng- 1 win and 1 loss

Overall, it's 12 wins and 5 losses against elite teams.

Under Misbah, Pakistan has won 6 and lost 8, W/L ratio: 0.75.

Out of those 6 wins, 3 have come against Zim and 2 against BD.

Against elite sides, Pakistan has won 1 and lost 5 so far

They even got whitewashed against SRL

So let's call a spade a spade, Misbah has made Pakistan a mediocre side in a format where they used to full dominate.

 

[Angrez Pakistani]

Credit of which goes to PCB and the journalists who either had post-colonial melancholy or superiority complex or, at times, a mix of both.

 

[Asif321]

His performance as captain in LOI should be enough to know what kind of leader he is . After horrid time from 2012-2015 under Misbah he always blamed lack of talent in pakistan . He made us believe his 60 of 90 is always better and he is carrying team alone .
Add Waqar in the management it makes it even more worst

 

[Shoaibbtt]

To be honest most of our successes were achieved on "home" soil which is where we are most strongest. It's the boys and the lack of trying.

 

[DeadlyVenom]

A number of factors contributed to our T20 success including the following:

1. Playing full strength squads against other teams weak squads.
2. Babar Azam
3. Discarding some dud players


Now its not Misbahs fault that Babar Azam got injured in this series but he is directly responsible for selecting TTF like Ahmed, Umar Akmal, Qadir and now he is giving 40 year old Wahab Riaz the scattergun countless opportunity despite their being no chance of him improving.

 

[Saj]

I knew this tour of New Zealand would expose quite a few flaws in the players, the tactics and the level of coaching and player management and sadly that is exactly what has happened.

This is a totally different kettle of fish to playing against Zimbabwe !

 

[hitthestump]

So let's call a spade a spade, Misbah has made Pakistan a mediocre side in a format where they used to full dominate.

Very true. While Mickey wasn't neccesarily the greatest coach, we have gone massively backwards under Misbah.

Under Mickey we were probably the 5th best team, right now we feel more like 7th/8th.

 

[shamaan]

You are not going to win a 120 ball match with 50 dot balls.
To my surprise 18 dot balls in power plays.
And you are opening inning with a player who is not able to get a place in domestic teams. He alone played 13 dot balls that too in power plays

Thats the thing i am most suprised at becouse with younis as batting coach you would expect to see quick singles and doubles and to the fact that rizwan Abdullah should be able to rotate strike more than power hitter

 

[shamaan]

You are not going to win a 120 ball match with 50 dot balls.
To my surprise 18 dot balls in power plays.
And you are opening inning with a player who is not able to get a place in domestic teams. He alone played 13 dot balls that too in power plays

Time and again Pak select squads with no proper batsmen, and relying on mini all rounders. Babar loss was unfortunate but we have no developed batsman replacement for him in the squad. Haris Sohail could have done better job then trying out newbies in alien conditions.

?
isnt abdullah a proper bateman isnt Rizwan a proper bateman