What's the reason for the ouster of Fawad Alam?

[Major]

While everyone was praising Inzamam for doing this and that, he ends up ignoring Fawad Alam, not even considered for A team.

Ironically, this guy was amongest the fittest players in the camp. So what was the point of the camps again?

Inzamam is here to disappoint, he will do what his predecessors did, act all tough, but commit the same blunders as before.

 

[waleed88]

Can someone explain to me the reason for ouster of Fawad Alam?

We have been through this plenty of times, discussed the merits about his selection to his non selection, his ability to get stuck in the crease, his limited batting range, his mediocre batting style, lack of power hitting.

Despite all the flaws, he passed the fitness test that none of the other squad members passed, save for Shan Masood.
His cast away from ODIs because of the above mentioned reasons, are they suffice to ignore him in the Test berth?
He was removed from the ODI's after the Bangladesh series because he failed in those 3 games, saying he was not an ODI player.

Ok lets assume he won't even play one game in England, whats the harm in mentioning your fittest player even in the probables?

Why is it that in every high profile series Fawad is the first one to be out of the whole squad, not even being given a chance in the A team.

Its mind boggling for me.

Why did you set criterias for fitness if you don't want players selected?

What are Iftikhar Ahmed and Asif Zakir doing in the squad?

Lets not even get into the recent performances of Domestics and first class of Fawad Alam, he is THE top performer with a career average of 56

Why create criteriae for selection when you don't want to select people who fit that criteria?

 

[Hasan123]

I'm suprised he hasn't been selected as well but in all honesty in English conditions he's a walking wicket. In UAE and subcontinent conditions he will do well in tests. Should be kept away in LOI formats

 

[FixedSince1992]

Yup no reason to drop him from Test squad. It's not even justifiable.

 

[Markhor]

Would have had Fawad as a backup in the senior squad.

However he's not in the A team because Inzamam said he's going to have a policy of not including players who've been in the A team 4-5 times already (Khurram, Fawad, Latif etc.) and wants young players under 30.

However its ridiculous to have the knives out for Inzamam already. The guy himself admits he hasn't watched much cricket since retirement and will monitor domestic cricket more closely now. Give him a chance and be thankful we haven't got the usual dinosaur chief selector like Iqbal Qasim, Haroon Rashid or Wasim Bari.

 

[FixedSince1992]

I'm suprised he hasn't been selected as well but in all honesty in English conditions he's a walking wicket. In UAE and subcontinent conditions he will do well in tests. Should be kept away in LOI formats

Which Pakistani batsman isn't a walking wicket in English conditions?

 

[jusarrived]

A teams should not be for 30 year olds

 

[Major]

Would have had Fawad as a backup in the senior squad.

However he's not in the A team because Inzamam said he's going to have a policy of not including players who've been in the A team 4-5 times already (Khurram, Fawad, Latif etc.) and wants young players under 30.

However its ridiculous to have the knives out for Inzamam already. The guy himself admits he hasn't watched much cricket since retirement and will monitor domestic cricket more closely now. Give him a chance and be thankful we haven't got the usual dinosaur chief selector like Iqbal Qasim, Haroon Rashid or Wasim Bari.

under 30? what kind of stupid criteria is he setting?

The current Test captain spent more then 10 years in the A team at above 30 and yet not only played for Pakistan, but also captained Pakistan for 6 years straight.

Inzamam has those ridiculous views of youngster youngster and youngster.

If you are not selecting someone for National team, then he should atleast be in A team, irrespective to his age.

I feeel sorry for those above 30 players who have about 10-14 years of cricket left in them, it looks like Mr.Inzamam will finish their careers because of being on the wrong of the age

 

[waleed88]

I'm suprised he hasn't been selected as well but in all honesty in English conditions he's a walking wicket. In UAE and subcontinent conditions he will do well in tests. Should be kept away in LOI formats

Not good enough to even mention him in the probables??

 

[in_cutter]

Was Fawad not selected for CT where he failed miserably?

 

[Hasan123]

Which Pakistani batsman isn't a walking wicket in English conditions?

Asad shafiq that's it. Problem with fawad is he relies on milking spinners too much

 

[Major]

Was Fawad not selected for CT where he failed miserably?

no he was not.

 

[Hasan123]

Not good enough to even mention him in the probables??

Its skills camp only he could be selected u never know

 

[Markhor]

Inzamam on Fawad:

The Pakistan middle-order already has Misbah, YK and Asad Shafiq" (in response to Fawad Alam query)

"He is an excellent player and we will give him a chance in the future"

 

[waleed88]

Asad shafiq that's it. Problem with fawad is he relies on milking spinners too much

Which is why Fawad's average in Australia is in the 40's.. milking spinners lol

 

[Rafay Shafiq]

Inzamam on Fawad:

Future!! Is he too young

 

[waleed88]

Would have had Fawad as a backup in the senior squad.

However he's not in the A team because Inzamam said he's going to have a policy of not including players who've been in the A team 4-5 times already (Khurram, Fawad, Latif etc.) and wants young players under 30.

However its ridiculous to have the knives out for Inzamam already. The guy himself admits he hasn't watched much cricket since retirement and will monitor domestic cricket more closely now. Give him a chance and be thankful we haven't got the usual dinosaur chief selector like Iqbal Qasim, Haroon Rashid or Wasim Bari.

I admit he has made some good decisions, and some tough ones. But I thought one of the reasons for the success of Pakistan in Test Matches was an established test squad.. why make changes in the squad that is already getting you results, the problem lies in our ODI and t20 performances, not in tests.
Secondly why create a fitness camp in kakul, and set fitness standards, when you don't want those passing the tests even in your probables..

 

[Hasan123]

Which is why Fawad's average in Australia is in the 40's.. milking spinners lol

He has played 3 tests one was against Sri Lanka and one against new zeeland. So it's one game in Australia u are judging him in . Didn't u see in UAE how Aussies stopped him scoring and how bangladesh had him struggling? Anderson and Broad will have fadi dancing and hoping around and out in no time

 

[Mamoon]

A) fitness camp isn't the only criteria for selection

B) he is rubbish

 

[Gabbar Singh]

It sounds like he doesn't have a future in the limited overs sides and will get his test match chance when Misbah/YK retire.

 

[waleed88]

He has played 3 tests one was against Sri Lanka and one against new zeeland. So it's one game in Australia u are judging him in . Didn't u see in UAE how Aussies stopped him scoring and how bangladesh had him struggling? Anderson and Broad will have fadi dancing and hoping around and out in no time

He averages 40 in ODIs, just check your previous quotes, the arguement was about his ability to play pace bowling. Which he can do aptly well.. as compared to you talking about him milking spinners. Which has got no relation to if he has played test matches in Australia or not thats more the selectors fault than his for not being given a chance..

 

[waleed88]

A) fitness camp isn't the only criteria for selection

B) he is rubbish

Rubbish players don't average 56 in Domestics..

 

[waleed88]

But ofcourse unless you are Malik, domestic averages and triple centuries in domestics don't count

 

[Hasan123]

He averages 40 in ODIs, just check your previous quotes, the arguement was about his ability to play pace bowling. Which he can do aptly well.. Which has got no relation to if he has played test matches in Australia or not thats more the selectors fault than his for not being given a chance..

If u don't bowl in his scoring areas he is clueless didn't u see what Aussies did to him 2014? He averages 40 but his strike rate is 74 which is not suitable for someone batting at number 5 in modern LOI cricket

 

[waleed88]

If u don't bowl in his scoring areas he is clueless didn't u see what Aussies did to him 2014? He averages 40 but his strike rate is 74 which is not suitable for someone batting at number 5 in modern LOI cricket

Ohh now its not suitable 74 is higher than Shehzad and Misbah's strike rate.. but obviously they have never been benched for that reason..
he was one of the highest scorers in that series, but only in Pakistan you get benched after scoring runs like that

 

[waleed88]

Lets not be clutching straws here, but his inability to play pace bowling is not an issue, unless ofcourse you wanna go back to examples of him in ODI's where strike rate is actually a matter of issue..

 

[Abdullah719]

Fawad, Haris and Babar. All have been a part of Test squads as backup batsmen, but they haven't yet had a chance to play some Test cricket. It's really not an ideal situation in the long run. And not fair on them that they are discarded without getting an opportunity, though I am sure they will eventually get a chance.

 

[Hasan123]

Ohh now its not suitable 74 is higher than Shehzad and Misbah's strike rate.. but obviously they have never been benched for that reason..
he was one of the highest scorers in that series, but only in Pakistan you get benched after scoring runs like that

Misbah couldn't be dropped because he was the main run getter of the team he was scoring more heavily than fawad and also misbah at least had a power game which fawad does not have.

 

[waleed88]

Misbah couldn't be dropped because he was the main run getter of the team he was scoring more heavily than fawad and also misbah at least had a power game which fawad does not have.

Whats that got to do with his inclusion in test matches? Do we need to score at a high strike rate in test matches? Then why has Misbah got a strike rate of 45?
And who is a more spinner friendly batsman? If you see the bulk of runs scored by Misbah on Dubai patta's, its against spinners. So even that arguement of yours goes out of the window.
However when Fawad does that its a genuine problem for everyone

 

[Hasan123]

Whats that got to do with his inclusion in test matches? Do we need to score at a high strike rate in test matches? Then why has Misbah got a strike rate of 45?
And who is a more spinner friendly batsman? If you see the bulk of runs scored by Misbah on Dubai patta's, its against spinners. So even that arguement of yours goes out of the window.
However when Fawad does that its a genuine problem for everyone

U bought up fawads average in odis . Also I know fawad will score runs in UAE I was questioning weather or not he can do so in England or Australia. In my opinion I don't think he can

 

[waleed88]

U bought up fawads average in odis . Also I know fawad will score runs in UAE I was questioning weather or not he can do so in England or Australia. In my opinion I don't think he can

Neither can most of our batting lineup.. so if you want to judge someone, do it on the basis of when and what chances he was given..

 

[MMHS]

Ohh now its not suitable 74 is higher than Shehzad and Misbah's strike rate.. but obviously they have never been benched for that reason..
he was one of the highest scorers in that series, but only in Pakistan you get benched after scoring runs like that

Statistically, one can't drop Fawad - in a pathetic PAK batting line up, at one point, he had an average of 47+ & SR of 75+, after 50+ matches; besides, he is easily the best fielder in the team, can bowl few overs & he was a left-hander in middle order; not sure when PAK had a left-hander in middle order in LO, for that the THICK Tank has no idea how irritating it could be when the fielding Captain is forced to change 4 men after every single, clock ticking fast & his bowlers are changing line/side 2/3 times in an over. Akalmands learn it from observation - PAK tank was THICK enough not to learn it after suffering several times at the hand of UV/Raina-Virat/MS; Sanga-Mahela/Dilshan, Tamim-Mushfiq partnership & being bunnied by Herath with 1 to 11 right-handers.

Problem for Fawad was that he was 3rd/4th in the packing order in a PAK team, where whose who mattered. In an ODI team, you can't fit in Misbah, Shehzad, Malik & Fawad - ideally 1, at best 2 can be fit in to that line up; but Fawad was at per with Asad in terms of lobby, way behind Shehzad & later Malik/Sarfraz, while Misbah was the Captain. Unfortunately, now Misbah is gone & his successor is 75% of Misbah & the next Captain. Fawad was never a player who can blast out; in fact, he was a limited player, whom professional teams could workout, but still, won't have been too odd in a PAK side that has dropped to 9th spot in a game seriously played by 5/6 countries now days.

I think, Fawad's biggest stumbling block was Ahmed - PCB's selectors were stuck in 1971, when ENG opened 1st ODI with Amiss & Boycott - that's you have to be an opener to open in ODI, and Ahmed indeed was the best option available. May be not now, as PAK should look forward, but similar time, 2 years back; PAK easily could have slotted Fawad in this batting line-up, had the vision was there - Umar, MoHa, Haris, Misbah, Fawad, Maqsood, Sarfraz ......... you can exchange spots between Misbah/Fawad, Sarfraz/Umar. Fawad basically lost to the Afridi lobby for Ahmed.

 

[Hasan123]

Statistically, one can't drop Fawad - in a pathetic PAK batting line up, at one point, he had an average of 47+ & SR of 75+, after 50+ matches; besides, he is easily the best fielder in the team, can bowl few overs & he was a left-hander in middle order; not sure when PAK had a left-hander in middle order in LO, for that the THICK Tank has no idea how irritating it could be when the fielding Captain is forced to change 4 men after every single, clock ticking fast & his bowlers are changing line/side 2/3 times in an over. Akalmands learn it from observation - PAK tank was THICK enough not to learn it after suffering several times at the hand of UV/Raina-Virat/MS; Sanga-Mahela/Dilshan, Tamim-Mushfiq partnership & being bunnied by Herath with 1 to 11 right-handers.

Problem for Fawad was that he was 3rd/4th in the packing order in a PAK team, where whose who mattered. In an ODI team, you can't fit in Misbah, Shehzad, Malik & Fawad - ideally 1, at best 2 can be fit in to that line up; but Fawad was at per with Asad in terms of lobby, way behind Shehzad & later Malik/Sarfraz, while Misbah was the Captain. Unfortunately, now Misbah is gone & his successor is 75% of Misbah & the next Captain. Fawad was never a player who can blast out; in fact, he was a limited player, whom professional teams could workout, but still, won't have been too odd in a PAK side that has dropped to 9th spot in a game seriously played by 5/6 countries now days.

I think, Fawad's biggest stumbling block was Ahmed - PCB's selectors were stuck in 1971, when ENG opened 1st ODI with Amiss & Boycott - that's you have to be an opener to open in ODI, and Ahmed indeed was the best option available. May be not now, as PAK should look forward, but similar time, 2 years back; PAK easily could have slotted Fawad in this batting line-up, had the vision was there - Umar, MoHa, Haris, Misbah, Fawad, Maqsood, Sarfraz ......... you can exchange spots between Misbah/Fawad, Sarfraz/Umar. Fawad basically lost to the Afridi lobby for Ahmed.

Fawad shot range is too limited for number 5 role in LOI formats

 

[Faisalsq092]

I'm suprised he hasn't been selected as well but in all honesty in English conditions he's a walking wicket. In UAE and subcontinent conditions he will do well in tests. Should be kept away in LOI formats

Then again, unfair to label him without even testing his mettle. I remember the last time he was our best ODI bat in LOIs. Just coz he has got an unorthodox technique, we have predetermined his failure in tough conditions. I have mentioned before, miandad, waugh, chanderpaul did not necessarily had the best techniques but they did excel in tough conditions. I dont see Fawad performing any worse than anyone (except Younis and Misbah) if provided a chance.

 

[The Last Of The Stars]

Inzamam has been exposed big time. Typical ex cricketer, who doesn't understand statistics and game.

 

[Markhor]

Inzamam has been exposed big time. Typical ex cricketer, who doesn't understand statistics and game.

And Haroon Rashid, Iqbal Qasim, Wasim Bari did ?

 

[Faisalsq092]

Fawad shot range is too limited for number 5 role in LOI formats

Limited range? Yes its difficult to drop our 360 degrees De villiers in favour of Fawad.. i dont know how r u criticising this guy considering what batting options we have.. Its not that we are loaded with Amlas and Kohlis.. this guy deserve a chance in Tests and ODIs, no question about it. Just stack his stats with our so called super talented bunch.

 

[Faisalsq092]

No point getting too harsh on Inzi.. Hopefully once he settles down he realizes how cruel we have been to the likes of Fawad and Sadaf Hussain

 

[The Last Of The Stars]

And Haroon Rashid, Iqbal Qasim, Wasim Bari did ?

Haroon Rashid had also selected Khurram Manzoor on his List A form, for T20Is, hilarious, don't remember much about the other two.

 

[Major]

And Haroon Rashid, Iqbal Qasim, Wasim Bari did ?

atleast they did not set ridiculous criteria that being 30+ means you should retire and leave cricket.

This guy is going to destroy many careers.

 

[Hasan123]

Limited range? Yes its difficult to drop our 360 degrees De villiers in favour of Fawad.. i dont know how r u criticising this guy considering what batting options we have.. Its not that we are loaded with Amlas and Kohlis.. this guy deserve a chance in Tests and ODIs, no question about it. Just stack his stats with our so called super talented bunch.

In tests he deserves a chance but in LOI he has no business in modern day cricket.

 

[Hasan123]

Then again, unfair to label him without even testing his mettle. I remember the last time he was our best ODI bat in LOIs. Just coz he has got an unorthodox technique, we have predetermined his failure in tough conditions. I have mentioned before, miandad, waugh, chanderpaul did not necessarily had the best techniques but they did excel in tough conditions. I dont see Fawad performing any worse than anyone (except Younis and Misbah) if provided a chance.

I like fawad but I don't think he will do well outside of subcontinent in tests. In UAE he will do well.

 

[Hasan123]

A) fitness camp isn't the only criteria for selection

B) he is rubbish

I wouldn't say rubbish but too limited for LOI and will do well in UAE in tests but outside of subcontinent he will struggle. I have been saying this on this thread and I have had his odi stats, his average in Australia thrown at me

 

[Chief Destroyer]

Thank goodness.

 

[Pete Rose]

Because he has awful technique that a rubbish domestic circuit captain, bowler or fielding team cannot unravel. Good for lashing the lankans in the subcontinent, but should never be anywhere close to the national team when headed to oz safrica or England.
Inzi doing him a big favor actually. He can come to the team after we have a disastrous 2016, and then establish himself while we play at home against Sri Lanka for the next 4 years. You know, the Mohammad Hafeez way of establishing a career.

 

[Pete Rose]

atleast they did not set ridiculous criteria that being 30+ means you should retire and leave cricket.

This guy is going to destroy many careers.

Sounds like a perfectly legit way of establishing a career. He will force these no hopers in to retirement

 

[Square Drive]

Pathetic how some are criticizing Inzi already, specifically his push for youngsters.

Yeah sure, why don't we include 35 year-olds in our A team, hoping they can make their way into the side like King Misbah?

Relax. Youngsters are the way to go, as shown by EVERY other country.

As for Fawad, Inzi has mentioned him, meaning he is still on the selection radar.

 

[Usman Chadda]

Limited range? Yes its difficult to drop our 360 degrees De villiers in favour of Fawad.. i dont know how r u criticising this guy considering what batting options we have.. Its not that we are loaded with Amlas and Kohlis.. this guy deserve a chance in Tests and ODIs, no question about it. Just stack his stats with our so called super talented bunch.

He can stick around for Tests, but please keep him light-years away from LOI cricket. Can never forget his meltdown against Australia in 2014 when even Zulfiqar Babar looked like Viv Richards compared to Sir Fawad Alam.

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[hussain.r97]

*Because he's rubbish. Fitness is important, but it's not the only criteria. You have to be a batsman to get into the team is a batsman. Fawad Alam looks like some highly uncoordinated weakling who was given a bat and sent out the middle.

 

[Yanna_Rascala]

We don't need a specialist fielder.

 

[aloo paratha]

C'mon we all know he is not a limited over prospect, as for the test team, he deserves to be there but the team is settled and if it's not broken, don't fix it

 

[aloo paratha]

Limited range? Yes its difficult to drop our 360 degrees De villiers in favour of Fawad.. i dont know how r u criticising this guy considering what batting options we have.. Its not that we are loaded with Amlas and Kohlis.. this guy deserve a chance in Tests and ODIs, no question about it. Just stack his stats with our so called super talented bunch.

We don't have a 360 degree ABDV, but we don't need a 180 degree Fawad Alam either.

 

[New Yorker]

Rubbish players don't average 56 in Domestics..

Shhhhhh. The empirical method is so 2015. Forget anything you once heard about speculation needing proof, results based decision making, anything that is systematic in any way. Crystal ball gazing and caprice is what will take Pakistani cricket into the modern era.

 

[kingusama92]

He won't be able to find a spot in the test squad until Misbah/YK retire.

That middle order is set in stone.

I guess he could have got a spot in the "A" squad, but Inzi and co. already know what they are getting in him. I'm sure he'll get his chance.

 

[Faisalsq092]

He can stick around for Tests, but please keep him light-years away from LOI cricket. Can never forget his meltdown against Australia in 2014 when even Zulfiqar Babar looked like Viv Richards compared to Sir Fawad Alam.

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U seem to remember that but couldn't remember that during the same period he stabilized and finished an almost lost run chase against Bangladesh (Thanks to Afridi's heroic). He picked a stumbling innings with a 100 in the Asia cup Final. He then shepherded another lost cause along with Sohaib Maqsood to get us an improbable (and our only win) on the tour. But u seem to remember the meltdown, which I agree wasnt his proudest moment.

He have performed better than most whenever given a chance. Cant remember anyone below our top 4 scoring an ODI hundred lately. Relatively, he is head and shoulders above the hacks currently hijacking the team. In the end we actually value Looks over substance. Who needs a scraping Individual willing to fight when you have someone hitting a 6 over midwicket before being cleaned up playing an ugly shot.

 

[Faisalsq092]

We don't have a 360 degree ABDV, but we don't need a 180 degree Fawad Alam either.

Lets be content with the Akmals, Shehzads and the Maqsoods then.

 

[Asim2Good]

does anyone whats his record IF he was selected for Pak A team tours ?
or how his performance was IF he was selected for practice matches against touring teams in past ?

 

[Usman Chadda]

U seem to remember that but couldn't remember that during the same period he stabilized and finished an almost lost run chase against Bangladesh (Thanks to Afridi's heroic). He picked a stumbling innings with a 100 in the Asia cup Final. He then shepherded another lost cause along with Sohaib Maqsood to get us an improbable (and our only win) on the tour. But u seem to remember the meltdown, which I agree wasnt his proudest moment.

He have performed better than most whenever given a chance. Cant remember anyone below our top 4 scoring an ODI hundred lately. Relatively, he is head and shoulders above the hacks currently hijacking the team. In the end we actually value Looks over substance. Who needs a scraping Individual willing to fight when you have someone hitting a 6 over midwicket before being cleaned up playing an ugly shot.

Lets just play him against Bangladesh and Sri Lanka only then. Wait that didn't work out so well aswell in 2015. A mediocre, good-for-nothing chucker like Arafat Sunny made Fawad struggle immensely.

Australia ruthlessly exposed his limited LOI gameplay. We scream for our team to take on modern day cricket. We scream for people like Shehzad, Shafiq and YK to never end up in ODI cricket again due to their pathetic SRs. Quite hypocritical to sound the Fawad Alam horns hence.

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[Corridor of Uncertainty]

Here is what I think Inzi is thinking on Fawad.

1. Fawad does not have a place in any of the squads at the moment. We can agree or disagree on the reasons till the cows come home but this is reality.
2. If there are significant injuries/massive failures for 3 or 4 batsman, then Fawd is in the reckoning. The signal has been sent by inviting him to the camp.
3. Even if not selected for England camp, he will remain in reckoning for future tours.

That is the best Inzi can do at the moment. Most important in all this is clear and unequivocal communication to Fawad on the thinking so he does not lose motivation.

 

[Major]

Sounds like a perfectly legit way of establishing a career. He will force these no hopers in to retirement

Thats really sad.


You have no idea how hard those people work who you are calling no hopers.

 

[Major]

Pathetic how some are criticizing Inzi already, specifically his push for youngsters.

Yeah sure, why don't we include 35 year-olds in our A team, hoping they can make their way into the side like King Misbah?

Relax. Youngsters are the way to go, as shown by EVERY other country.

As for Fawad, Inzi has mentioned him, meaning he is still on the selection radar.

Tell me a few youngster who have been with the team for the alst 5 years. Plz name me few

 

[Asim2Good]

Tell me a few youngster who have been with the team for the alst 5 years. Plz name me few

Umar Akmal & Shehzad to start with

 

[jusarrived]

Asad shafiq that's it. Problem with fawad is he relies on milking spinners too much

Hes extremely week against pace bowlers & just week against spinners . Milking spinners is really stretching it

 

[TalentSpotterPk]

Strange that frequent Posters do not get it.

Inzamam ul Haq announced his selection policy in his day1 as national chief selector.


1. No player over the age of 30 would be selected for Pakistan A.

2. No player who has toured with Pakistan A 4-5 times will be selected for Pakistan A.

3. Such players as mentioned above will be directed selected for Pakistan team if the need arises.



This disqualifies Fawad Alam for Pakistan A squad.


Inzamam has mentioned that with Misbah & Younis in the batting line up its hard for Fawad Alam to break through in the playing eleven and no point of having him on the bench. His chance will come after Misbah & Younis go.


Inzamam also mentioned that they selected Iftikhar Ahmed because he bowls part time off spin and England have 4 left handed batsman. This is a clear indication that Asif Zakir & Akbar ur Rehman are only for the camp based in their last season performance and Inzamam just wants to see them but surely they are not getting selected for Pakistan squad.


Now I will give my personal opinion on this :

Fawad is likely to struggle in England in test cricket anyways. And clearly with Hafeez not certain and no allrounder being selected they want Iftikhar Ahmed to be selected because of offspinn option against their lefties that too if any of Misbah, Younis, Asad or Azhar got injured.

It would have been unfair for a 56 averaging player warming the bench only in England.


Fawad will be in picture for test cricket once Misbah & Younis retire. And he will be suited to non seaming conditions. Like in UAE with his temperament and grit only he would most likely average 50 or 50 plus.

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[Hasan123]

Strange that frequent Posters do not get it.

Inzamam ul Haq announced his selection policy in his day1 as national chief selector.


1. No player over the age of 30 would be selected for Pakistan A.

2. No player who has toured with Pakistan A 4-5 times will be selected for Pakistan A.

3. Such players as mentioned above will be directed selected for Pakistan team if the need arises.



This disqualifies Fawad Alam for Pakistan A squad.


Inzamam has mentioned that with Misbah & Younis in the batting line up its hard for Fawad Alam to break through in the playing eleven and no point of having him on the bench. His chance will come after Misbah & Younis go.


Inzamam also mentioned that they selected Iftikhar Ahmed because he bowls part time off spin and England have 4 left handed batsman. This is a clear indication that Asif Zakir & Akbar ur Rehman are only for the camp based in their last season performance and Inzamam just wants to see them but surely they are not getting selected for Pakistan squad.


Now I will give my personal opinion on this :

Fawad is likely to struggle in England in test cricket anyways. And clearly with Hafeez not certain and no allrounder being selected they want Iftikhar Ahmed to be selected because of offspinn option against their lefties that too if any of Misbah, Younis, Asad or Azhar got injured.

It would have been unfair for a 56 averaging player warming the bench only in England.


Fawad will be in picture for test cricket once Misbah & Younis retire. And he will be suited to non seaming conditions. Like in UAE with his temperament and grit only he would most likely average 50 or 50 plus.


[MENTION=135038]Major[/MENTION]

Your last paragraph is what I'm trying to tell everyone but they think he will score in England

 

[Hasan123]

Hes extremely week against pace bowlers & just week against spinners . Milking spinners is really stretching it

Pace bowling is his main weakness once England realise this they will bombarded him with finn

 

[JibranAnsari]

Because two 33 year olds are better than one 30 year old.

 

[MMHS]

Fawad shot range is too limited for number 5 role in LOI formats

True, that's why as an option he could have swapped position with Misbah at 4. I don't think he has the technique or dynamism to bat at 3 either; but every team can use 1 grafter like him, besides his fielding would have been a bonus.

Unfortunately, ship has left the port, PAK should look for next generation - already this is an aged PAK side, like 2015, in 2019 also PAK might be the most aged side.

 

[asif iqbal]

While everyone was praising Inzamam for doing this and that, he ends up ignoring Fawad Alam, not even considered for A team.

Ironically, this guy was amongest the fittest players in the camp. So what was the point of the camps again?

Inzamam is here to disappoint, he will do what his predecessors did, act all tough, but commit the same blunders as before.

Most replies/comments to this are as confused as they can get. His record, playing ODIs in England is among the top for the Pakistanis in that team. Also, his ODI performance in Australia can be ranked the same. Strike rates 6 years ago were just starting to rise so again, a confused comparison. He probably never learned to flatter, your PR needs to be better than your SR!

 

[Hasan123]

True, that's why as an option he could have swapped position with Misbah at 4. I don't think he has the technique or dynamism to bat at 3 either; but every team can use 1 grafter like him, besides his fielding would have been a bonus.

Unfortunately, ship has left the port, PAK should look for next generation - already this is an aged PAK side, like 2015, in 2019 also PAK might be the most aged side.

Malik and Babar are ahead of him now so he should concentrate on tests. Hopefully rizwan babar asghar Hasan Ali Yamin Amad Butt all develop and reduce the age

 

[Shafi]

While everyone was praising Inzamam for doing this and that, he ends up ignoring Fawad Alam, not even considered for A team.

Ironically, this guy was amongest the fittest players in the camp. So what was the point of the camps again?

Inzamam is here to disappoint, he will do what his predecessors did, act all tough, but commit the same blunders as before.

I would like to see more younger players coming like other countries rather than keep recycling older players. But Inzamam is contradicting himself by dropping players like Sadaf and Fawad and keeping hacks like Manzoor, Iftikhar....
If we need to build up stronger and attacking team for 2019 we need new sets of players rather than keep bring Misbah, Younis, Shafiq, Fawad in the team. Its not like we are world beaters otherwise why not bring 92s or 2003s team, at least they are much better than any of our current lot.
Also Yamn and Amad should replace Nawaz and Anwar Ali.

 

[aloo paratha]

Lets be content with the Akmals, Shehzads and the Maqsoods then.

You're twisting the story. When did I ever say that we should choose these players?

 

[Prince of Pakistan]

People just do not get it that Fawad will be in trouble against good bowling attacks and especially on lively tracks. There is a reason Inzi said that he will look beyond stats, but Pakistanis being Pakistanis have to whine about everything as if its a hobby.

Fawad will probably get a look in after the Aus series when YK and Misbah say their bye bye's.

 

[rhony]

Let me throw this out there. Do you think the sponsors have anything to say about team selections? Fawad is a decent player but an ugly looking player( batting stance and the way he plays). Other than that, I don't see any reason. People keep saying that he will be ineffective if there is something on the pitch but he was never given enough chances to prove.

 

[Zaid9470]

I lost all the respect for inzi as a selector... This is a plain stupidest decision ever.. how can you not have fawad alam in the team.. The guy has scored more runs in first class than any of these garbage batsmen they have picked in the squad... Also whenever he has been given opportunity in international cricket, he has done good. He has definitely done better than all these other batsmen we have in our roster.

The argument of him not having a technique to succeed outside Pakistan is also stupid. Please tell me one batsman in our squad who you believe can succeed outside Pakistan. Comeon, we pick batsman who cant even succeed in our first class structure hoping they will succeed in England. Pathethic!!!

Pakistan is the worst country to play for... No doubt.. Just simply stupid. Honestly, i am glad Inzi didn't pick Fawad cause when our garbage team will lose 4-0 at least he wont have to go through the embarrassment.

 

[Anfield]

People just do not get it that Fawad will be in trouble against good bowling attacks and especially on lively tracks. There is a reason Inzi said that he will look beyond stats, but Pakistanis being Pakistanis have to whine about everything as if its a hobby.

Fawad will probably get a look in after the Aus series when YK and Misbah say their bye bye's.

Please let us know who's certain to score hundreds and double hundreds in England or on lively tracks? Fawad Alam has been able to maintain his average of 56 for past 8-10 years who in Pakistan amongst current lot had been able to do that? Plus he scored 160+ away from home on debut so this point that he has good stats only has no real substance in it. And yes he will not get into playing XI but what if someone gets injured? Whom will they play then? Iftikhar Ahmed? Lol

 

[marlonbrowndo]

I lost all the respect for inzi as a selector... This is a plain stupidest decision ever.. how can you not have fawad alam in the team.. The guy has scored more runs in first class than any of these garbage batsmen they have picked in the squad... Also whenever he has been given opportunity in international cricket, he has done good. He has definitely done better than all these other batsmen we have in our roster.

The argument of him not having a technique to succeed outside Pakistan is also stupid. Please tell me one batsman in our squad who you believe can succeed outside Pakistan. Comeon, we pick batsman who cant even succeed in our first class structure hoping they will succeed in England. Pathethic!!!

Pakistan is the worst country to play for... No doubt.. Just simply stupid. Honestly, i am glad Inzi didn't pick Fawad cause when our garbage team will lose 4-0 at least he wont have to go through the embarrassment.

Calm down. Even if Fawad was in the squad who would you drop? Everyone in our test team is a consistent performer except the 2nd opener. He will have to wait until Misbah retires.

 

[Prince of Pakistan]

Please let us know who's certain to score hundreds and double hundreds in England or on lively tracks? Fawad Alam has been able to maintain his average of 56 for past 8-10 years who in Pakistan amongst current lot had been able to do that? Plus he scored 160+ away from home on debut so this point that he has good stats only has no real substance in it. And yes he will not get into playing XI but what if someone gets injured? Whom will they play then? Iftikhar Ahmed? Lol

Do tell me when he scored a century outside Asia which is exactly Inzi's point. The last few times he had to face quality bowlers he struggled to get the ball away on dead tracks.

If you lot wanted selectors who selected on cricinfo stats then why did you guys cry about Haroon Rashid? Let Inzi do his work. He has made a rational decision in the best interest of Pakistan without any outside influence.

I would rather have Asad, YK, Misbah, Babar, Haris than Fawad on foreign conditions. Once YK, Misbah are out then Fawad has a serious chance to prove himself. But at the moment we have better options in the Test side.

Iftikhar is a strategic choice just like Hafeez used to get in despite failing continuously. Cannot believe that people are even worried about that. Last time Malik was a big success with his offspin.

For once let people who are serious about Pakistan do their work.

 

[MRSN]

A teams should not be for 30 year olds

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I think Jusarrived has seen our BC Lara bat..


Fawad Alam just doesn't have enough skills to survive at international level. He could be an option in tests but I don't see him lasting more than few overs facing quality bowlings. Don't be decieved by his domestic scores because even Khurrum scores hundreds at domestic level and we have all seen how he was owned by part time UAE cricketers. Pakistan's domestic structure just doesn't have enough for bowlers.

 

[Prince of Pakistan]

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I think Jusarrived has seen our BC Lara bat..


Fawad Alam just doesn't have enough skills to survive at international level. He could be an option in tests but I don't see him lasting more than few overs facing quality bowlings. Don't be decieved by his domestic scores because even Khurrum scores hundreds at domestic level and we have all seen how he was owned by part time UAE cricketers. Pakistan's domestic structure just doesn't have enough for bowlers.

It's a simple thing Pakistanis can not comprehend. Once we do not have better options then Fawad will get another go.

It's Inzi's philosophy to not select on stats alone.But he did promise that Fawad will remain in contention and we all know Misbah, YK won't be there for long.