"When will we come out from friendship, liking & disliking culture" : Shoaib Malik

[MenInG]

Shoaib Malik, in a recent interview with a local media channel

"I would love to lift T20 World Cup in 2024 for Pakistan. I have no physical fitness issue. I'm as fit as I was in my younger days. I'm available for Pakistan whenever PCB contacts me,"

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So do we think he will get a look in?

 

[emranabbas]

Shoaib Malik, in a recent interview with a local media channel

"I would love to lift T20 World Cup in 2024 for Pakistan. I have no physical fitness issue. I'm as fit as I was in my younger days. I'm available for Pakistan whenever PCB contacts me,"

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So do we think he will get a look in?

He will be good as shadab and nawaz if not better but his days are gone

 

[nish_mate]

Shoaib Malik, in a recent interview with a local media channel

"I would love to lift T20 World Cup in 2024 for Pakistan. I have no physical fitness issue. I'm as fit as I was in my younger days. I'm available for Pakistan whenever PCB contacts me,"

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So do we think he will get a look in?

Fitness might not be suspect, but what about reflexes? Is he still upto facing chin music?

Plus be a regression going back to him, not just PCB but even BCCI's better off investing in long term future rather than short term tactical gain.

 

[zaidihusain]

Shoaib Malik, in a recent interview with a local media channel

"I would love to lift T20 World Cup in 2024 for Pakistan. I have no physical fitness issue. I'm as fit as I was in my younger days. I'm available for Pakistan whenever PCB contacts me,"

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So do we think he will get a look in?

Oh probably that's why he wants Babar to leave captaincy and Shaheen to takeover as limited overs captain despite knowing that Shaheen has fitness issues and heavily overloaded as a bowler.

Malik has played so many T20 WCs, what's his achievement so far? How many big T20 matches he won for Pakistan?

He should gracefully retire as he already had long international career without impactful performances.

 

[Professionalismandflair]

Oh probably that's why he wants Babar to leave captaincy and Shaheen to takeover as limited overs captain despite knowing that Shaheen has fitness issues and heavily overloaded as a bowler.

Malik has played so many T20 WCs, what's his achievement so far? How many big T20 matches he won for Pakistan?

He should gracefully retire as he already had long international career without impactful performance

Malik can still offer more than Shadab or Nawaz

 

[zaidihusain]

Malik can still offer more than Shadab or Nawaz

Comparing most Pakistan's most experienced failure with less experienced failures will not give you success. You need someone who can really win matches for the team and I am sure Malik is not that person. So there is no need to bring back someone who has repeatedly failed to perform on big occasions despite playing so much international cricket

 

[BunnyRabbit]

US and WI are actually quite suitable for a guy like Malik at no.5.
It should only be looked at if the incumbents are out of form or combination isn't good enough. Ifti seems to be his direct competition.

 

[Professionalismandflair]

US and WI are actually quite suitable for a guy like Malik at no.5.
It should only be looked at if the incumbents are out of form or combination isn't good enough. Ifti seems to be his direct competition.

Malik can offer a wealth of insight and experience compared to Shadab and Nawaz

 

[shah_1]

He is a finished cricketer

Should move on from him.

Malik can offer a wealth of insight and experience compared to Shadab and Nawaz

Hire him as a motivational speaker

 

[Saj]

I don't always agree with what Malik says, but he was right wasn't he about the liking and disliking culture wasn't he.

 

[ghalib kichlu]

Brilliant advice from am icon who has come to personify the modern day sportsmen
Young Pakistanis could do worse than listen to his sound words

 

[BunnyRabbit]

Malik can offer a wealth of insight and experience compared to Shadab and Nawaz

Yes he can but whether he merits a place in the eleven should decide his inclusion.
Malik has a well known weakness against pacers.
Shadab was our best bowler in wt20 2022. If he can get his bowling form back, Shadab would be invaluable. Same with Nawaz. How they are doing in the lead up to the wt20 should decide their places. Nawaz for me needs time away from international cricket. Even PSL. Shadab needs to play 4 day cricket.

 

[saqib.rai]

I don't always agree with what Malik says, but he was right wasn't he about the liking and disliking culture wasn't he.

Its always been there.
It was MUCH MORE rampant before. Now there are hardly 1-2 questionable selections

Otherwise there is no rhyme or reason how mediocrity like Shoaib Malik ended up playing for 20 years

 

[Professionalismandflair]

Its always been there.
It was MUCH MORE rampant before. Now there are hardly 1-2 questionable selections

Otherwise there is no rhyme or reason how mediocrity like Shoaib Malik ended up playing for 20 years

Mediocrity? Nawaz and Shadab.

 

[Professionalismandflair]

Mediocrity? Nawaz and Shadab.

Nawaz, in particular is a serial BOTTLER. He cannot take the pressure however much his yaar encourages him to.

 

[Kianig89]

With wahab in charge of selection affairs , don't be surprise if he selects his senior and the man under whom he made his ODI debut , after likes and friendship culture goes very deep in Pakistan

 

[FearlessRoar]

Shoaib Malik during a recent local event with the media, he highlighted the necessity for clarity regarding his potential selection in the national squad:

"If I will be given clarity and will be asked to play, then I will definitely consider."

"It isn't like I am playing cricket because I want to play in the 2024 World Cup. I am playing cricket because I enjoy playing cricket and I can play cricket."

 

[Kianig89]

Exactly, what is Malik trying to prove

 

[Major]

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Exactly, what is Malik trying to prove

This is very stupid statement from Yousuf and needs to be given a showcause notice

A player selection is franchise choice not PCB. PCB cannot decide who should play and who should not. If there is demand for Malik than there is no issue.

Yousuf is an uneducated person, so such dumb statements are expected from such stupid people

 

[zaidihusain]

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Exactly, what is Malik trying to prove

Yusuf is right on this. Malik already prolonged his international career by many years and now he is doing the same with PSL career. Action should also be taken against those franchise who are wasting their money on such spent forces instead of giving chance to new blood. It also affects the brand of PSL as it blocks the place of other promising youngsters who can be groomed.

 

[Major]

Yusuf is right on this. Malik already prolonged his international career by many years and now he is doing the same with PSL career. Action should also be taken against those franchise who are wasting their money on such spent forces instead of giving chance to new blood. It also affects the brand of PSL as it blocks the place of other promising youngsters who can be groomed.

How is Yousuf right? PCB cannot decide who should play and who should not.

If you are going to regulate PSL selections than that is the kind of stupidity that will destroy the league

PSL is not required to promote youngsters. PSL is required to make money for the investors.

 

[CleverSir]

The PSL is not a development pathway. It is a league for the mostly finished product to ply their trade.

 

[Kianig89]

How many franchises in PSL for Malik has played, KK IU QG ???

 

[Josh]

Looks like he is himself infested with this culture in the original post

 

[zaidihusain]

How is Yousuf right? PCB cannot decide who should play and who should not.

If you are going to regulate PSL selections than that is the kind of stupidity that will destroy the league

PSL is not required to promote youngsters. PSL is required to make money for the investors.

PCB is the governing body for all PSL teams and every team has to abide by their policies. Yes the franchise owners are here to make money but there must be some basic guidelines and operating principles for all franchise. PCB doesn't need to meddle in day to day functional or administrative affairs, but PCB must control misuse of powers by franchise. PSL need to encourage more & more youngsters for the betterment of Pakistan cricket and eventually it will give monetary benefits to franchise owners with time.

Somebody like Shoaib Malik is not adding value to his franchise in anyway whatsoever. QG did the right thing with Sarfraz as he wasn't adding any value and same was the case for Shahid Afridi and he rightly decided to leave PSL.

As per your logic any franchise can hire 50-55 year old cricketer just to make money which is not reasonable. You can take example of any team of league cricket, most of them have timely parted ways with oldies. Those who haven't they are losing

 

[Major]

PCB is the governing body for all PSL teams and every team has to abide by their policies. Yes the franchise owners are here to make money but there must be some basic guidelines and operating principles for all franchise. PCB doesn't need to meddle in day to day functional or administrative affairs, but PCB must control misuse of powers by franchise. PSL need to encourage more & more youngsters for the betterment of Pakistan cricket and eventually it will give monetary benefits to franchise owners with time.

Somebody like Shoaib Malik is not adding value to his franchise in anyway whatsoever. QG did the right thing with Sarfraz as he wasn't adding any value and same was the case for Shahid Afridi and he rightly decided to leave PSL.

As per your logic any franchise can hire 50-55 year old cricketer just to make money which is not reasonable. You can take example of any team of league cricket, most of them have timely parted ways with oldies. Those who haven't they are losing

umm no they are not. PCB cannot enforce player selection. PCB telling who to select and who not to is meddling.

Doesnt matter what you or me think, its the investment of hte franchise and if they think he is good for them they will keep him and no one can say no.

Franchise can hire a 55 year old, its their team, they own it.

IPL had Pravin Tambe debuting at the age of above 40

 

[zaidihusain]

umm no they are not. PCB cannot enforce player selection. PCB telling who to select and who not to is meddling.

Doesnt matter what you or me think, its the investment of hte franchise and if they think he is good for them they will keep him and no one can say no.

Franchise can hire a 55 year old, its their team, they own it.

IPL had Pravin Tambe debuting at the age of above 40

When was the last time Malik won a game for his team in PSL?? He extended his stay in international cricket and same he is doing in PSL, amusingly he didn't announced retirement from T20I he is so selfish. He believes he is adding value to the team with his experience but honestly he is a negative influence on the team. Franchise investment must be based on greater interest for overall development of franchise as well as Pakistan cricket. Anyways Malik has lot of connections, he will keep playing for 10 more years with different franchise

 

[Major]

When was the last time Malik won a game for his team in PSL?? He extended his stay in international cricket and same he is doing in PSL, amusingly he didn't announced retirement from T20I he is so selfish. He believes he is adding value to the team with his experience but honestly he is a negative influence on the team. Franchise investment must be based on greater interest for overall development of franchise as well as Pakistan cricket. Anyways Malik has lot of connections, he will keep playing for 10 more years with different franchise

It doesnt matter. Whether he gets selected or not is the Teams decision not PCB.

Its his career, he can announce retirement when he likes.

Franchise are there to develop anyone. They are there to make money. No one invests money for development of anything. End goal is profit.

 

[topspin]

This is very stupid statement from Yousuf and needs to be given a showcause notice

A player selection is franchise choice not PCB. PCB cannot decide who should play and who should not. If there is demand for Malik than there is no issue.

Yousuf is an uneducated person, so such dumb statements are expected from such stupid people

I will explain why Yousuf can make this statement.

Shoaib Malik is a big age fudger, who is about to turn 50 years old but claims to be 43.

So there are grounds for why Malik should not be included in this tournament.

Age fudging cannot be tolerated especially for oldies like him.

 

[topspin]

Misbah set a terrible precedent by retiring in his mid 40s. Now we have Shoaib Malik trying to go one step further and retire in his 50s.

It's a disgrace.

 

[zaidihusain]

It doesnt matter. Whether he gets selected or not is the Teams decision not PCB.

Its his career, he can announce retirement when he likes.

Franchise are there to develop anyone. They are there to make money. No one invests money for development of anything. End goal is profit.

That's the problem with many Pakistan cricketers. Most of them believes that they own Pakistan cricket and they can play up to any age whether they add value or not. That's what guys like Misbah, Afridi, Younis did in ODI cricket, they all were forced to retire or dropped. Franchise must make money but they need to adopt ethical practices. It's a shame that guys like Umar Akmal & Suhaib Maqsood are not selected and this guy Malik is still playing purely on connections not on merit. Even someone like Asif Ali is not in LQ playing 11.

 

[Major]

I will explain why Yousuf can make this statement.

Shoaib Malik is a big age fudger, who is about to turn 50 years old but claims to be 43.

So there are grounds for why Malik should not be included in this tournament.

Age fudging cannot be tolerated especially for oldies like him.

bro, I dont like Malik, but the thing is if franchise wants to select him no one can stop him.

 

[Major]

That's the problem with many Pakistan cricketers. Most of them believes that they own Pakistan cricket and they can play up to any age whether they add value or not. That's what guys like Misbah, Afridi, Younis did in ODI cricket, they all were forced to retire or dropped. Franchise must make money but they need to adopt ethical practices. It's a shame that guys like Umar Akmal & Suhaib Maqsood are not selected and this guy Malik is still playing purely on connections not on merit. Even someone like Asif Ali is not in LQ playing 11.

I think you need to understand the PSL model.

PSL model is franchise model, so yes team owners own the team and its assets.

So your issue is why Umar not selected and Malik is...

 

[hoshiarpurexpress]

I don't get the brouhaha around Malik playing PSL. Franchise guys can ask Akhtar to play if he is able to pull crowds. Now national T20, yeah that PCB shouldn't pick him in those teams.

 

[zaidihusain]

I think you need to understand the PSL model.

PSL model is franchise model, so yes team owners own the team and its assets.

So your issue is why Umar not selected and Malik is...

I totally understand the franchise based model, they are welcome to increase their earnings but again I would say they need to maintain ethics & standards. No franchise should be allowed to abuse the brand PSL and promote poor quality by deliberately having players who have past their career. If earning money is the only focus they can hire some movie stars they will be bigger crowd attraction

 

[Sarmad]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1569023277808377857

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Pakistan cannot progress when this issue is addressed. Selection cannot be driven by personal dislikes and how much a captain feels comfortable with a certain player. It should be done on merit alone. If there are issues with players, they should be addressed via proper player management. The easy route of throwing people out and bringing friends will not work.

We will come out of friendship when PCB chairman's appointment will be on merit.

Simple

 

[shah_1]

Coming from someone who played for Pakistan for so long despite being so mediocre. Players like him are the reason we became a nothing team because our team accepted mediocrity, standards became too low to play for Pakistan.

 

[DeadlyVenom]

I will explain why Yousuf can make this statement.

Shoaib Malik is a big age fudger, who is about to turn 50 years old but claims to be 43.

So there are grounds for why Malik should not be included in this tournament.

Age fudging cannot be tolerated especially for oldies like him.

Is there an age limit for the PSL?

 

[Major]

I totally understand the franchise based model, they are welcome to increase their earnings but again I would say they need to maintain ethics & standards. No franchise should be allowed to abuse the brand PSL and promote poor quality by deliberately having players who have past their career. If earning money is the only focus they can hire some movie stars they will be bigger crowd attraction

no one is violating any ethics or abusing anything.

The main purpose is to earn money and they have freedom to buy any player. You cannot restrict franchises from not buying certain players. This is subcontinent mentality, that the central power should put restrictions etc.

David wiese is 39, Colin Munro is 38, Malik is 42. If the franchises beleive they get value from these guys so be it.

IPL had PRavin Tambe debuting at the age of above 40

 

[Major]

Is there an age limit for the PSL?

There isnt and there shouldnt be.

 

[Cryin Out Loud]

Leagues are a business proposition, the cricket version of a free market economy.

As fans you can protest if you’re so bothered. But if a league wants to hire a five -or fifty - year old player it’s their call. Travis Head, or the local paanwallah. Their call.

Leagues have few greater goals than maximising the business.

Of course some leagues are more professional than others. But the basic principle holds. Ultimately it’s their decision, and they will pay the price for it, or reap the benefits.

 

[zaidihusain]

no one is violating any ethics or abusing anything.

The main purpose is to earn money and they have freedom to buy any player. You cannot restrict franchises from not buying certain players. This is subcontinent mentality, that the central power should put restrictions etc.

David wiese is 39, Colin Munro is 38, Malik is 42. If the franchises beleive they get value from these guys so be it.

IPL had PRavin Tambe debuting at the age of above 40

Ok let's agree to disagree. If QG wants to play every game with 10 players I don't have any problem, it's their business