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Where does Iftikhar Ahmed fit in this team?

mominsaigol said:
Brother you've gone on a rampage before on imad.

Heck you're the guy who said babar easily makes it over sheryas 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂.

And you're reasoning was what? Overseas conditions? Okay well why does that matter when majority of the time India plays at their home conditions and rarely leaves until they have a tournament? And babar always fails in tournaments? At home sheryas is superior to babar at his own den, considering NZ c team dog walks him.

How many blind haters exist in this world for you? Besides the misbah clique, it seems 80% of the planet is a blind hater in your eyes. Get over yourself.
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They get paid to over hype Chacha lol Chacha is the new Khusdil
 
mominsaigol said:
Tayyab isn't. He put performed saim, Omair bin yousaf, Haris and in psl had am avg if 42 and sr of 152.

He's a good solid batsmen but pcb believes tayyab should be discarded without any games while hasebullah should be groomed as the up and coming talent.

Tayyab isn't a legend or a goat player but he's good for our standards.

Problem with this misbah/ Babar and rizwan clique is that they just want these babar, Rizwan, Irfan Khan niazi, chacha level players in the unit for some reason, my guess is they want mediocrity so that Bobby and riz can prove their goats.

But overall, Abdullah shafiq, Saud shakeel, Haris, Tayyab Tahir, Omair Bin Yousaf, Saim Ayub( Needs more time), their all excellent talents although tayyab is on the older side due to pcb being a bad management board.

If tayyab doesn't warrant a place in the team, on what basis is hasebullah, Irfan Khan niazi and these types of Lulla's showing their Bhootas in the squad?

Esit: Put performed in the acc emerging cup although his psl stats are good.
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As for Usman Khan imo, he's not up their, his technique isn't such for International cricket. But he isn't a bad prospect for t20. He's fine as a t20 specialist, but he needs to either improve his keeping or give up the keeping skills
 
Mohraheem said:
They get paid to over hype Chacha lol Chacha is the new Khusdil
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It'd because of Misbah following that's why.

Whatever misbah claims on that crap podcast these guys just adhere to.

Misbah first claimed Babar and rizzu are goats at opening. So his fans did bharanga and detested the idea of anyone else opening.

As soon as Misbah said saim is needed, his fans were like yup we need saim. And now that misbah is once again advocating for Babar and rizwan to open, they want saim booted out.

Irfan Khan Niazi is the latest misbah product lol or well whoever misbah advocated for, it's why these boys are currently advocating wasim jnr to come back because he's Misbah's favourite bowler.

Currently in the squad

1) Babar
2) Rizwan
3) Irfan Khan Niazi
4) Chacha
5) Abrar (He's amazing but Misbah has forwarded him, regardless he's like the first person on the planet who's actually good lol, despite being a misbah podcast advocate(

6) Wasim Jnr

^^ These lads are also misbah products or advocated by Misbah.

Basically as long as your a karachi born player, you're on Misbah's bad side.

Imad wasim is an exception but that's because Imad wasim and Amir attacked Babar and questioned his captaincy. And attacking babar and rizwan means attacking Misbah who appointed these 2 clowns.

It was the same with nasizh, she utters a word about Babar and misbah fans will swarm in flocks to advocate the harrasing of a woman.
 
mominsaigol said:
Brother you've gone on a rampage before on imad.

Heck you're the guy who said babar easily makes it over sheryas 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂.

And you're reasoning was what? Overseas conditions? Okay well why does that matter when majority of the time India plays at their home conditions and rarely leaves until they have a tournament? And babar always fails in tournaments? At home sheryas is superior to babar at his own den, considering NZ c team dog walks him.

How many blind haters exist in this world for you? Besides the misbah clique, it seems 80% of the planet is a blind hater in your eyes. Get over yourself.
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India plays rarely away? get a grip. India plays oversees more than any Asian team. Anyone who thinks iyer is better than Babar need their heads checked.

I called Imad rubbish and he is rubbish. What has changed few performances in PSL? Wake me up when he performs for Pakistan.
 
PakEngFan said:
India plays rarely away? get a grip. India plays oversees more than any Asian team. Anyone who thinks iyer is better than Babar need their heads checked.

I called Imad rubbish and he is rubbish. What has changed few performances in PSL? Wake me up when he performs for Pakistan.
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Keep the same energy that use on imad. Use it on Chacha as well
 
Mohraheem said:
Keep the same energy that use on imad. Use it on Chacha as well
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Iftikhar is rubbish but better than Imad. Iftikhar doesn't have a big mouth like Imad nor does he think he's a superstar like Imad. Have the same energy for someone else other than iftikhar.
 
There's literally no one else that has played better at his position domestically. He hasn't performed internationally yet, but you cant take him out because there isn't anyone good enough to replace him.
 
PakEngFan said:
Who said I am his fan? Just because I defend him
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When was the last time he performed ? Based on his stats I’m hating him. Clearly u didn’t watch NZ matches nor home matches.
 
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alik said:
There's literally no one else that has played better at his position domestically. He hasn't performed internationally yet, but you cant take him out because there isn't anyone good enough to replace him.
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That doesn’t mean that we keep playing him. Bring someone new. Already this pathetic Chacha ain’t performing. Nothing will change. Being in Haider Ali or Salman. Give them a chance
 
Mohraheem said:
That doesn’t mean that we keep playing him. Bring someone new. Already this pathetic Chacha ain’t performing. Nothing will change. Being in Haider Ali or Salman. Give them a chance
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Salman is in the team. He might get a game or 2 in place of Iftikhar I believe. And tbh, salman should be tried now because Iffi has failed to impress in the last 3-4 series. Time has now come to try and replace him with a better batter in Salman who can also bowl a bit and is a better fielder as well.
 
PakEngFan said:
Iftikhar is rubbish but better than Imad. Iftikhar doesn't have a big mouth like Imad nor does he think he's a superstar like Imad. Have the same energy for someone else other than iftikhar.
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And what did chacha do on this series?

Imad has better stats in odi, in t20 while the stats atm are worse their improving day by day. Imad avg and sr are now up, from 15 to 17. Chacha is going down from 29 to 27.

Every series since NZ 2023 t20 last year, to mow I ad has outperformed.
 
mominsaigol said:
And what did chacha do on this series?

Imad has better stats in odi, in t20 while the stats atm are worse their improving day by day. Imad avg and sr are now up, from 15 to 17. Chacha is going down from 29 to 27.

Every series since NZ 2023 t20 last year, to mow I ad has outperformed.
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He's was rubbish. Imad can't get into the odi team.
 
Iftikhar should be worried about his place in the team now. With the likes of Salman and Azam khan there, his place should be in jeopardy now. We cannot play a deadbeat player just because we don't have a replacement. Let Iftikhar know that this is your final series. If you fail to perform, you will sit out for good.
 
PakEngFan said:
He's was rubbish. Imad can't get into the odi team.
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Why? 42 avg and 110 sr is not good enough?

Then again you believe sheryas iyer 49 avg and insanely high sr for batting at no 4 is not good enough and Bobby who would get cremated at 4 due to spin in the middle overs is good enough.

Weird logic
 
mominsaigol said:
Why? 42 avg and 110 sr is not good enough?

Then again you believe sheryas iyer 49 avg and insanely high sr for batting at no 4 is not good enough and Bobby who would get cremated at 4 due to spin in the middle overs is good enough.

Weird logic
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You have to understand, he isn’t a blind hater. He is just confused
 
Rana said:
You have to understand, he isn’t a blind hater. He is just confused
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He advocated for Babar at no 4 over sheryas in odi.

First ask Bobby if he himself is willing to agree 😂😂. As soon as Bobby says, maybe I should bat at 3 or open while kohli can come at 4.

He'll get the 100 treatment.
 
mominsaigol said:
He advocated for Babar at no 4 over sheryas in odi.

First ask Bobby if he himself is willing to agree 😂😂. As soon as Bobby says, maybe I should bat at 3 or open while kohli can come at 4.

He'll get the 100 treatment.
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What’s next? He will advocate for Babar to bat at 6 for South Africa to do Klaasen’s job because Babar is more reliable as a batter?
 
Rana said:
What’s next? He will advocate for Babar to bat at 6 for South Africa to do Klaasen’s job because Babar is more reliable as a batter?
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No he'll say

Babar is a bad no 6 and a weak player tmbut he's all that SA has got.

Them when we'll say Klaseen, he'll say you're nothing but a blind hater.
 
mominsaigol said:
Why? 42 avg and 110 sr is not good enough?

Then again you believe sheryas iyer 49 avg and insanely high sr for batting at no 4 is not good enough and Bobby who would get cremated at 4 due to spin in the middle overs is good enough.

Weird logic
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A very misleading average. Boosted by a lot of not outs. Not good enough to bat in top 6.

You logic India don't play oversees so iyer is better.
 
PakEngFan said:
A very misleading average. Boosted by a lot of not outs. Not good enough to bat in top 6.

You logic India don't play oversees so iyer is better.
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Also my logic on iyer being > Babar is based of the fact that he averages 50 and a sr of 101. Its not a small sample size either. Dude has played 58 games now.

Infact he averages greater then 50 against every team and in every overseas conditions including NZ which is an overseas condition.

He's only been poor against Australia, England Nad Bangladesh sample pool is way too small atm with only 3 and 4 games against england Bangladesh respectively.

Even in Australia despite averaging 27 which is poor he still has a strike of 101 and has played a few clutch innings which includes a 100 although that was in Indian conditions against an all star aussie team during the World cup this year in group stages.

Now compare that to babar, in which tournament has babar performed in overseas conditions? Infact dude averages 17 in Australia in world cups, his last 101 was against MZ in England?

Infact with the exception of Nepal, Zimbabwe and one another minnow team babar has never once crosses a 100SR against any team, his avg against spin vs sheryas is dreadful, with his sr being 76 against Afghanistan which is considered a strong spin unit and in overseas conditions, babar's avg and SR are increasingly lower then sheryas mainly due to his t20 all star 2022 performance. Even in odi his stat is inflated because of ct 2017 not put, despite you hypocritically claiming Imad wasim's avg is inflated lol.

Tell me based of what does babar make it ahead of sheryas when sheryas has consistently averaged better then him against every team besides Australia and has consistently has a much higher sr and a much better play against spin, in both overseas ans home conditions?

After babar's disastrous asia cup, world cup 2023, world cup 2022, and asia cup 2022, why would he make it over sheryas?
 
Rana said:
Lol I firmly believe he should be captain instead of Babar. What’s the confusion?
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Babar makes it over sheryas because sheryas in overseas(Australia) has been poor.

Meanwhile babar is slurpping on his 17 avg amd below 100 SR IN A T20.
 
BouncerGuy said:
Iftikhar should be worried about his place in the team now. With the likes of Salman and Azam khan there, his place should be in jeopardy now. We cannot play a deadbeat player just because we don't have a replacement. Let Iftikhar know that this is your final series. If you fail to perform, you will sit out for good.
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Should’ve been his final series vs NZ in Pakistan. He didn’t even perform. What gives u the possibility That he will in USA.
 
Mohraheem said:
That doesn’t mean that we keep playing him. Bring someone new. Already this pathetic Chacha ain’t performing. Nothing will change. Being in Haider Ali or Salman. Give them a chance
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What has Haider Ali done to warrant a place in the xi.
 
mominsaigol said:
Also my logic on iyer being > Babar is based of the fact that he averages 50 and a sr of 101. Its not a small sample size either. Dude has played 58 games now.

Infact he averages greater then 50 against every team and in every overseas conditions including NZ which is an overseas condition.

He's only been poor against Australia, England Nad Bangladesh sample pool is way too small atm with only 3 and 4 games against england Bangladesh respectively.

Even in Australia despite averaging 27 which is poor he still has a strike of 101 and has played a few clutch innings which includes a 100 although that was in Indian conditions against an all star aussie team during the World cup this year in group stages.

Now compare that to babar, in which tournament has babar performed in overseas conditions? Infact dude averages 17 in Australia in world cups, his last 101 was against MZ in England?

Infact with the exception of Nepal, Zimbabwe and one another minnow team babar has never once crosses a 100SR against any team, his avg against spin vs sheryas is dreadful, with his sr being 76 against Afghanistan which is considered a strong spin unit and in overseas conditions, babar's avg and SR are increasingly lower then sheryas mainly due to his t20 all star 2022 performance. Even in odi his stat is inflated because of ct 2017 not put, despite you hypocritically claiming Imad wasim's avg is inflated lol.

Tell me based of what does babar make it ahead of sheryas when sheryas has consistently averaged better then him against every team besides Australia and has consistently has a much higher sr and a much better play against spin, in both overseas ans home conditions?

After babar's disastrous asia cup, world cup 2023, world cup 2022, and asia cup 2022, why would he make it over sheryas?
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Another useless essay which doesn't answer anything. Can you please remind us again how India rarely plays oversees. What a gem. Then I am told by posters here why I am wrong to call out so called Pakistani bending over backwards to India. Here is another example on display. Iyer record is not good in SENA because India rarely plays away.
 
Mohraheem said:
Should’ve been his final series vs NZ in Pakistan. He didn’t even perform. What gives u the possibility That he will in USA.
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ok lets give him another chance against Ireland and England

If he still never performs... I will join you in criticizing him day and night! :ROFLMAO: :p
 
Cricket Warrior said:
ok lets give him another chance against Ireland and England

If he still never performs... I will join you in criticizing him day and night! :ROFLMAO: :p
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Yaar I don’t think Ireland performance will count. Chaalo okay ✅ England he will fail…. For sure
 
PakEngFan said:
I am talking about Imad.
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Every avg is misleading by this logic for lower order batters. Who may have stats inflated due to not outs.

A 42 avg and 110 SR irrespective of any context is great, just like an avg of 49 ans St of 101 as a no 4 batsmen for sheryas irrespective of context is great.

The same rule applies for babar as well for Odi. I have no issue with babar at odi no 3 although his sr is a bit low but 89 sr is fine as no 3.

The issue has always been babar and rizwan in t20 lol. A format where averages are less important then SR's.

You can't say a nothing playwr like chacha is > A nothing player like imad when imad has been batting better and more consistently then chacha. In both NZ 2023 t20 and this nz 2024 r20 imad has done better.

Imad past stats are worse then chacha but it also doesn't change the reality that since imad's return his avg and sr increased significantly especially his 200 sr game he played recently.

While chacha has dropped his avg from 29 to 27 and his sr has dropped from 129 to 127 now. Its clear who's better based of form atm.
 
PakEngFan said:
Another useless essay which doesn't answer anything. Can you please remind us again how India rarely plays oversees. What a gem. Then I am told by posters here why I am wrong to call out so called Pakistani bending over backwards to India. Here is another example on display. Iyer record is not good in SENA because India rarely plays away.
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The sena point doesn't matter, you're avoiding me.

I asked you questions in that post, none of them are answered.
 
DeadlyVenom said:
Ifti has a great record in Australia.
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First time I'm agreeing with you. Aus was only uncomfortable against him in t20 based of the 4 games he played. He enjoys bounce and doesn't have to worry about wrist spin as much.

Wouldn't be a bad option in AUS only. But I have a feeling he'd fail this time around. His reactions have gone down the drain. Dude can't even dispatch full tosses now
 
Iftikhar Ahmed T20I stats in Australia:

222 runs (3rd most for 🇵🇰)
37 Ave (2nd best for 🇵🇰 min. 5 inns)
135 SR (3rd best for 🇵🇰 min. 5 inns)
3 Fifties (joint most for Pakistan alongside Babar Azam)

Was Iftikhar a big miss in the Australia T20I series?
 
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