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Where does Jofra Archer vs. Steve Smith rank amongst the most entertaining battles in Test cricket?

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It had it all pretty much.

A young fast-bowler on debut hurling well-directed bouncers at 90+ mph consistently.

AGAINST

Arguably the best Test batsman of the twenty-first century showing remarkable courage to come back for his team after a nasty blow.

How did you find it and is it amongst some of the most entertaining passages in Test cricket between a batsman and a bowler?

My personal favorite was Flintoff and Lara at Birmingham 2004.
 
Flintoff v Kallis. 2008 Edgebaston

Ambrose v S Waugh. Trinidad '95

First morning, first test 2005 Ashes. Box office gold.

Flintoff to Ponting, second test 2005

Johnson to Smith , Centurion 2014 (continuation of 2009 duels when he twice broke Smiths hand- a good pointer to those who say Johnson only had one hot streak)

Johnson to England, Australia 2013/2014- the entire series

Ishant to Ponting- can't remember the year.. 08? Ishant was bowling 150k plus at the start of his career in Oz & was all over Ponting like a rash. Epic duel.

Now this one joins the list.
 
Flintoff v Kallis. 2008 Edgebaston

Ambrose v S Waugh. Trinidad '95

First morning, first test 2005 Ashes. Box office gold.

Flintoff to Ponting, second test 2005

Johnson to Smith , Centurion 2014 (continuation of 2009 duels when he twice broke Smiths hand- a good pointer to those who say Johnson only had one hot streak)

Johnson to England, Australia 2013/2014- the entire series

Ishant to Ponting- can't remember the year.. 08? Ishant was bowling 150k plus at the start of his career in Oz & was all over Ponting like a rash. Epic duel.

Now this one joins the list.
That Johnson series against SA was more terrifying than the Ashes.

He completely obliterated them with only AB in his prime able to withstand the heat.
 
This one is certainly up there with the absolute best that have stuck in the memory through the years:

1. Ambrose vs Steve Waugh - Port of Spain 95
2. Donald vs Atherton - Trent Bridge 98
3. McGrath vs Lara - Bridgetown 99
4. Shoaib vs Ponting - WACA 99
5. Flintoff vs Kallis - Edgbaston 08
6. Archer vs Smith - Lord's 19
 
I saw the highlight today, it was one great battle in test I saw in recent times. Archer bowled some 96 mph plus deliveries and nasty bouncers, Smith shaken but managed to survive.
 
Was shocked at the pace Archer was touching 93-95 mph plus is unheard of these days
 
Time for England fans to stop booing Steve Smith and David Warner?

Yes, they were guilty of vile actions before and they paid the price but is this incessant booing necessary?

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A small section of the Lord’s crowd continued to boo Australia batsman Steve Smith despite him copping a sickening blow to his neck on Day 4 of the second Ashes Test.

A Jofra Archer bouncer on Saturday crashed flush on the neck of the former Australia captain who fell to the ground as England fielders and batting partner Pat Cummins rushed towards him.

READ: Wouldn’t be surprised if neck guard become mandatory in future – Langer

Australia’s team doctor Richard Saw attended Smith who looked in significant pain and was eventually convinced to walk off the field. To his credit, Smith walked unassisted with the crowd giving him a standing ovation.

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Smith has been at the receiving end of some hostile reception since his return to international cricket from his ball-tampering ban earlier this year. But the act of booing after he fell on the ground has invited severe criticism from several former international cricketers.

“It was disgusting,” Ian Healy was quoted as saying by AAP. “Lord’s won’t be happy with that either. They don’t like any ‘yobbo’ element of crowd behaviour.”

Shane Warne, during commentary, said, “Just get up, clap and say that’s courageous, very brave.”

Former England captain Michael Vaughan joined the chorus, urging people to applaud instead of booing. “I get the pantomime of [MENTION=19392]steve[/MENTION]smith49 arrival to the crease and the booing but please stop booing once he plays with great skill, courage and incredible discipline !!! he deserves a standing ovation for that innings … #Ashes #Lords” Vaughan tweeted.

Australia coach Justin Langer expressed his helplessness at the booing, saying there’s nothing that can be done about it. “What can I say? … I’ve spoken enough about the boos, there’s nothing we can do about the boos,” Langer said. “There is also a lot of people standing and applauding him,” Langer said.

However, England pacer Chris Woakes said it was upto the fans to express what they felt but lauded Smith who returned to bat after the fall of the next Australian wicket. “People are entitled to do as they wish, that’s up to them and what they feel is necessary. What they think as a person is right and wrong. For Steve to come out, having been hit the way he was, does show some courage and character,” Woakes said.

Waokes trapped Smith lbw on 92, denying him a third consecutive Ashes ton in as many innings.


https://www.cricketcountry.com/news...-fans-after-steve-smith-booed-at-lords-881078
 
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Remember watching shoaib akhter on the lifeless uae wickets generating frightening speeds of 97-98 mph speeds against new zealand and west indies in particular against Chris Gayle who was petrified
 
The overnight events at Lords show the importance of the concussion protocols which have been developed in Australia over the last few years.

Administrators in Australia working with the ACA and now the ICC have done a good job in putting the protocols in place. Plainly, they are necessary to protect the players who are struck.

Let’s remind ourselves – this is a workplace for these players.

The reality is that cricket can be a dangerous sport, especially when the bowling is as ferocious as it has been in this series.

To see the protocols practiced at Lords overnight was important and correct.

What was unwelcome and incorrect was the sound of booing of an injured player.

Cricket deserves much better than that. And Lords, the home of cricket, deserves much better than that also.

What we witnessed was bravery from an outstanding young man. It should be commended not vilified.

Over the English summer, generally the crowds have been terrific and really added to the contest. But when someone is hurt, yet the boos continue, it's time to call ‘enough.’

At any rate, the players have already served the toughest penalties in the history of cricket. Surely it is time to move forward.



STATEMENT FROM GREG DYER & ALISTAIR NICHOLSON - Australian Cricketers' Association
https://www.auscricket.com.au/news-media/news-articles/statement-from-greg-dyer-alistair-nicholson
 
The overnight events at Lords show the importance of the concussion protocols which have been developed in Australia over the last few years.

Administrators in Australia working with the ACA and now the ICC have done a good job in putting the protocols in place. Plainly, they are necessary to protect the players who are struck.

Let’s remind ourselves – this is a workplace for these players.

The reality is that cricket can be a dangerous sport, especially when the bowling is as ferocious as it has been in this series.

To see the protocols practiced at Lords overnight was important and correct.

What was unwelcome and incorrect was the sound of booing of an injured player.

Cricket deserves much better than that. And Lords, the home of cricket, deserves much better than that also.

What we witnessed was bravery from an outstanding young man. It should be commended not vilified.

Over the English summer, generally the crowds have been terrific and really added to the contest. But when someone is hurt, yet the boos continue, it's time to call ‘enough.’

At any rate, the players have already served the toughest penalties in the history of cricket. Surely it is time to move forward.



STATEMENT FROM GREG DYER & ALISTAIR NICHOLSON - Australian Cricketers' Association
https://www.auscricket.com.au/news-media/news-articles/statement-from-greg-dyer-alistair-nicholson

ah no need.

Aussies now looking for excuses.

David Warner was a known bully on the field and i hope he will get booed by the fans for years to come. Smith is just guilty of being an australian.

AUstralians have always had this approach where they acted like jerks in cricket,and no matter wha they deserve everybit of booing.

And as for the injury thing, well the broken arm comments by clarke
 
Disappointed I missed out on it. The highlights I saw it looked like a great contest.
 
Archer is the most over rated bowler in world cricket at the moment, a throwback to the 80’s West Indian fast bowler, no discernible skill apart from the ability to bowl bouncers!
 
Archer is the most over rated bowler in world cricket at the moment, a throwback to the 80’s West Indian fast bowler, no discernible skill apart from the ability to bowl bouncers!

Malcolm Marshall & Andy Roberts say hello. :)))
 
Sachin Vs Steyn 2010/11
Kohli Vs Mitchell Johnson 2014/15
Kohli Vs Rabada 2018
were better
 
Atherton vs Donald is very underrated and a gripping duel through and through. Probably takes the cake for me.
 
Archers action is so effortless. I am certain he surprises the batsman by being much quicker than he looks
 
England fast bowler Jofra Archer insisted he had no intention to hit Australia’s Steve Smith during the second Ashes Test, saying “everyone’s heart skipped a beat” after he felled the star batsman with a fearsome bouncer at Lord’s.

In a compelling passage of play on Saturday’s fourth day that saw World Cup-winner Archer, making his Test debut, repeatedly test Smith with the short ball, the 24-year-old Sussex quick produced a 92.4 mph (148.7 kph) bouncer that hit Smith on his unprotected neck.

Smith, who fell to the ground, retired hurt after receiving on-field treatment. But after just 46 minutes away, Smith returned at the fall of the next wicket before he was lbw to Chris Woakes for 92. It was the first time this series that England had dismissed Smith for under a hundred after his innings of 144 and 142 in Australia’s 251-run win victory in the first Test at Edgbaston.

Archer was criticised on social media for exhibiting a lack of concern on the field for Smith’s well-being but in an interview with BBC Radio before Sunday’s final day, he insisted: “That is never the plan (to hit a batsman).”

“You are trying to get a wicket first. To see him go down, everyone stopped and everyone’s heart skipped a beat,” he added. “After he got up he was moving around and you breathe a sigh of relief. No-one wants to see anyone getting carried off on a stretcher. It was a good challenge, a really good spell. For me, I wouldn’t like to see it end like that.”

Archer insisted he was just trying to force Smith out of his comfort zone.

“I’ve never seen Smith get out of his own accord until yesterday, so I was just trying to rattle him,” he told Sky Sports. “I was trying to get him out, I had a short leg and a leg slip and he was trying to work the ball off his hip, so if one bounces a bit more it should go to short leg, or one of the guys waiting.”

Smith was not wearing the additional neck guard on his helmet that came into use following the death of Phillip Hughes after his former Australia team-mate was hit by a bouncer in a 2014 domestic Sheffield Shield match in Sydney.

“You don’t ever want to see anyone carried off on a stretcher, or you don’t want to see them missing a day, or a game, especially with what happened a few years ago as well,” said Archer. “It’s never a nice sight.”

The build-up to this match had seen Australia coach Justin Langer question whether Archer had the stamina required for Test cricket, as opposed to one-dayers where bowlers are restricted to a maximum of 10 overs per match. But Barbados-born Archer, coached at Sussex by former Australia fast bowler Jason Gillespie, returned fine figures of 2-59 in 29 overs where his speed rarely dropped below the 90 mph mark.

“Obviously a lot of people haven’t seen first-class cricket shown on TV, so they won’t know what I’m used to doing anyway,” Archer said Sunday, with England set to resume on 96-4 in the second innings, a lead of 104 runs.

After stumps, Langer praised Archer’s performance by saying: “His endurance was outstanding today, his skill, his pace.

“To be able to bowl 29 overs today, what a great effort. Time will tell whether that has an impact,” he added, with only a few days between the end of this match and Thursday’s start of the third Test at Headingley.

https://www.cricketcountry.com/news...ofra-archer-on-steve-smith-getting-hit-881393
 
Mitchell Johnson Vs AB on a quick deck at Supersport park . Mitch is on record saying that the only batsman who seemed to have time to react to him was AB - not Cook, Bell, KP, Root, Smith,Amla. Just wasn't beaten for pace like the other batsman at all. In fact MJ had to get him out using a slower ball.
 
Atherton vs Donald duel was what hooked me to cricket and fast bowling. Never tire of watching that on YT.
 
Saeed Anwar vs Srinath was a good one.. so was Razzaq and SRT in the VB series in Aus as well . (second one was ODI)
 
Atherton vs Donald duel was what hooked me to cricket and fast bowling. Never tire of watching that on YT.

Atherton vs Donald is very underrated and a gripping duel through and through. Probably takes the cake for me.

One also has to thank some of those poor umpiring calls that made it into a long battle and memorable which Donald should have won pretty early.
 
btw would the saeed ajamal vs sangakara battle count in this or not?

Saeed Ajmal would spin the ball alot(even though later on it would be proved he was chucking), yet Sangakara would play him very well.
 
btw would the saeed ajamal vs sangakara battle count in this or not?

Saeed Ajmal would spin the ball alot(even though later on it would be proved he was chucking), yet Sangakara would play him very well.
It was pretty one-sided.

Sangers along with Hussey owned Ajmal.
 
Archers action is so effortless. I am certain he surprises the batsman by being much quicker than he looks

I think the fact that he doesn't have a long, bustling run-up like most fast-bowlers traditionally do will work massively in his favor in the long-term. Especially injury-wise
 
One also has to thank some of those poor umpiring calls that made it into a long battle and memorable which Donald should have won pretty early.

How was that Atherton's fault? He held his own during a pretty hostile spell. A couple of calls were atrocious but sometimes you need a little luck to balance the scales
 
I think Archer vs Smith was the best duel in the past 5 years. No other duel came close.

Smith is a modern ATG and Archer is a potential future ATG. It doesn't get better than that.
 
I missed this.. And there seems to be no extended highlights available.

How many times Archer bounced Smith? From brief highlight that I saw, he got hit twice. Once on arm guard and then on the neck where he was finally retired hurt. Was that it? Did Archer bounce him again when he came back to bat?
 
Lol, probably the most one sided battle ever, all of this is based on a few bouncers which Smith couldn’t play.

Watch Smith vs Bumrah or Ashwin, that’s what you call a battle.
 
Hahaha this is like Watson vs Wahab Riaz. Inconsequential bouncers.

The only difference is everyone knows Wahab is average. Archer has been the most overhyped cricketer I've ever seen. Name someone who gets this much hype after all these years of non-performance because he bowls 'fast' or is 'effortless' etc.

The posters who called him the best in the world ahead of Starc, Bumrah, Cummins, Rabada are no where to be seen.

He's been outbowled by Stokes again in this series.
 
It doesn't rank that highly. I have seen better. :inti

Ambrose vs Steve Waugh
Shahid Afridi vs Gambhir
Shoaib Akthar vs Rahul Dravid
McGrath vs Sarwan
Flintoff vs Michael Clarke
 
This is hilarious. So when Smith tried to play aggressively given the upcoming rain, Archer had the nerve to say:

"Why play your shots when there's no rush on the scoreboard?" Like a moody child again, he starts the confrontation.

Smith replies back - "You bowl fast when there's nothing going on, champion", hit the next two balls for a 4 and a 6, and then Archer didn't bowl another over with Ponting embarrassing him further adding "Jofra's finally come to life, six days into the series, when the second Test match is gone, he starts chirping. Too late for that, champ…"

To add insult to injury the overhyping press asked Smith about his 'history' with Archer (who has bowled the most to him in history without ever getting him out) and Smith replies "What history do I have with him?".

Sums up his value in the international cricket perfectly.

I expect him to go onto twitter and start crying like he has in the past.
 
Archer is extremely over rated and soft. Goes missing when it matters the most. He can't bowl fast when it really matters.
 
Archer is only good in bowling bouncers. This is not 80s cricket that you can make a blood bath by just bowling bouncers. Stick to picking wickets- that’s your job.
 
This is hilarious. So when Smith tried to play aggressively given the upcoming rain, Archer had the nerve to say:

"Why play your shots when there's no rush on the scoreboard?" Like a moody child again, he starts the confrontation.

Smith replies back - "You bowl fast when there's nothing going on, champion", hit the next two balls for a 4 and a 6, and then Archer didn't bowl another over with Ponting embarrassing him further adding "Jofra's finally come to life, six days into the series, when the second Test match is gone, he starts chirping. Too late for that, champ…"

To add insult to injury the overhyping press asked Smith about his 'history' with Archer (who has bowled the most to him in history without ever getting him out) and Smith replies "What history do I have with him?".

Sums up his value in the international cricket perfectly.

I expect him to go onto twitter and start crying like he has in the past.
He really got owned, but I don’t know why it was a surprise to anyone - I’ve always thought he was a weak character.

No idea why England think he’s going to be some sort of talisman for them.

He really bottled it in the second innings of the first game. With Australia set a challenging total, he decided to run in and bowl 133k!

And now all of a sudden when Australia needed just 65 he decides to come in firing at full pace when he deep down knows the match is gone and he’s going to have to bowl 4-5 overs max this innings.

I would drop him and bring in both Wood and Tongue. At least you know they’ll give it they’re all
 
Archer is only good in bowling bouncers. This is not 80s cricket that you can make a blood bath by just bowling bouncers. Stick to picking wickets- that’s your job.
Nothing wrong with bowling bouncers - but pick your damn moments!

That attempted barrage to smith was just a petulant display to show “look o can still bowl fast”. So glad smith smashed him.
 
Brainless by archer but a good response from Smith maybe archer should ask his team mates why are they throwing their wickets with reckless shots
 
He really got owned, but I don’t know why it was a surprise to anyone - I’ve always thought he was a weak character.

No idea why England think he’s going to be some sort of talisman for them.

He really bottled it in the second innings of the first game. With Australia set a challenging total, he decided to run in and bowl 133k!

And now all of a sudden when Australia needed just 65 he decides to come in firing at full pace when he deep down knows the match is gone and he’s going to have to bowl 4-5 overs max this innings.

I would drop him and bring in both Wood and Tongue. At least you know they’ll give it they’re all
He's always been a bottler and mentally weak.

What's unique is how he has been rated by pundits and some uneducated fans on this forum. The likes of Hassan Ali and Ajantha Mendis came onto the scene with explosive performances yet nobody would call them the best in the world after one season.

Archer was put on a pedestal just because he bowled decently in a World Cup England should never have won - all due to Stokes, a lot of luck and unfortunate mistakes by the umpires denying NZ - followed by an Ashes series where he bowled like Wahab Riaz.

That one season - in 2019, is enough to continue him getting hyped. People say it's because of pace but Wood is not given the same hype despite him being much faster.

Add in his terrible attitude - breaking covid rules, lying to teammates, putting people at risk, crying on social media during and after games for valid criticism, injuries after injuries - and you realise what a bang average cricketer he has always been.
 
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