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Which cricketers are most likely to break Brian Lara's 400* record?

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The candidates i think are

AB de Villiers
Virat Kohli
Azhar Ali
Joe Root
Kane Williamson
David Warner
Hashim Amla
 
Arham_PakFan said:
I would cancel out AB,Warner and Amla right away.
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Amla and AB are world class players as for Warner if he comes up against a bowling line up like a Bangladesh and has 4 or 5 good sessions with the bat then he might break the record.
 
no one

funnily enough, mainly because he is arguably the poorest from this list of batsmen, but I do think Azhar Ali has the best chance from these guys to do it if its going to happen.

All he needs to do is maybe increase the pace of his scoring

He is fast developing really good levels of concentration (touch wood) and while unlikely it is not beyond the realms of possibility that he could get in on a flat road in UAE on the first day and just keep chugging away against a mediocre attack
 
Kohlis too selfless to go for and his team a bit too good for him to be in a situation where he would be required to score 400.
 
I feel Azhar Ali has a opportunity to break the world record in the current 3rd test vs Aus because there is plenty of time left in the test and Pak will not be thinking about declaring any time soon i would have put Younis Khan in the list to but i feel he has only this one chance to do it.
 
There have been a few over the last 3-4 years itself who have come close to the record and remained not out.

Michael Clarke came close and declared unselfishly. Hell, even K Nair could've gone on to break the record the way he was playing a month back during the 5th test.

There are quite a few players who can do it currently, but they don't strike me as being players who would put a personal milestone over the teams cause.
 
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No one
Now a days teams are more concerned for a result than useless personal records (pakistan is exception)

Azhar ali cant score 400 with a strike rate of 40 and batting for 2.5 days
 
The only way I can see it happening is if in future an opener like Sehwag comes along and does something mad like scoring 300 in a day. Then there would be enough time still in the match for them to have a tilt at the record on day 2.
 
Faiz said:
I feel Azhar Ali has a opportunity to break the world record in the current 3rd test vs Aus because there is plenty of time left in the test and Pak will not be thinking about declaring any time soon i would have put Younis Khan in the list to but i feel he has only this one chance to do it.
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Slow down, he has made only 58* so far... :uak
 
KL Rahul, Karun Nair provided Kolhi doesn't declare when they're on 390 odd :P
 
Warner though he's as destructive as Sehwag, doesn't have the same hunger or appetite for monster scores like Sehwag used to have. I don't think he'll ever make 300 tbh.

The only way a 400 is justified in current cricket climate is if a team had scored 600+ in the first innings and the batsman who is going to break 400 is batting second.
 
From India - KL Rahul or Pujara (in India)
From Pak - Azhar Ali. But not in UAE). Somwhere in asia possibly.
Fram Aus - Steve Smith (Warner doesnt motor along after he scores a hundred)
From England - Root

No one else.
Kane wont have the support. Bangladesh batsmen are not there yet. Gayle could've, but he doesn't do tests no more. SL, not sure if the new kids have it. SA, too late for Amla and ABD now.
 
Only openers or one down have a chance
Warner: too flashy to stay that long
Roots : can do , he is young, has stamina, plays positive and bats at #3
Kohli: most likely but bats at #4, too late
Azhar: too slow to reach 400, will need 3-4 day
Willamson: not so attacking , too slow
AB and Amla" n chance, they already have reached their peaks.
 
The problem with Root is his back starts causing him trouble the longer he bats, not sure he's physically capable of scoring 400.
 
South Africa

AB Develliers or
QDK once he gives up keeping few years later.


India
KL Rahul
Karun Nair
Virat Kohli


NZ
Collin Munro


West Indies
Chris Gayle
If he makes Test return.
 
Nobody in world cricket is probably capable - and they probably wouldn't be as selfish as Brian Charles Lara in pursuing such a goal. West Indies could've won that Antigua Test after losing the first three matches of that 2004 series vs England.

But of course, BC had to have another day in the sun, another notch on his belt that he didn't need so screw the team.

For all of Lara's batting genius, and I was a huge admirer, his self-centred streak and pursuit of personal goals was sometimes at the expense of his team. Under Lara's captaincy, West Indies cricket became a byword for unprofessionalism, laziness, and decline.

Tony Cozier documented this extensively. He got away with murder in West Indian cricket but because of his status WICB never reprimanded him. He once described how the legendary Rohan Kanhai as coach once complained about being abused by some of his senior players. Yet the board sacked him and the players including Lara were retained. When Clive Lloyd was the coach, Lara and Hooper complained that he was overtraining them.

Ridley Jacobs said the same thing about Lara's selfishness. I remember reading on here how one time when Lara was fielding for Warwickshire, he had his mobile phone out whilst standing at third man. That summed up Lara's professionalism and attitude.

So even if one our players WERE capable of such a feat, I'd rather they not do it and put the team first unlike Brian Lara.
 
I don't think anyone will do it. Players now want to feel ball on bat so doubt they will have the temperament and patience to face enough balls to get to 400.
 
Faiz said:
The candidates i think are

AB de Villiers
Virat Kohli
Azhar Ali
Joe Root
Kane Williamson
David Warner
Hashim Amla
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Azhar can break it but he is not getting such sitution his style is defencvie so need max overs among all above
 
No one will do it as beating that record will mean that it will come at the cost of the team's victory.
 
Dave Warner and KL Rahul are the only (unlikely) possibilities. Needs to bat 1-3, and needs to be someone who can score fast.
 
You need sehwag kind of cricketer to break it realistically

Warner's pacing of the inngs is very much similar to sehwag but he lacks the temperament to score huge dady inningses but on his day he can i swear
 
There is a difference between "can score" and "will score".

Recently players like Azhar and Nair who scored unbeaten triple centuries could have pushed on to 400. So they "can score".

However, as scoring 400 is for an individual record rather than for the team, I doubt anyone "will score" 400 like Lara did. WI batted past lunch on the 3rd day at an easy pace of 3.71 per over. So this was not an attempt to win the Test, but rather about an individual record and salvaging some pride after losing the first 3 Tests.

Only someone with Shewag ability to score fast and score big can make 400 while also doing what is best for the team.
 
If I have to pick one, it has to be David Warner.

1) bats in top 3
2) Avg close to 50, SR close to 77 is miles ahead of any other top order player in the world.

If you get opposition out for 100 odd on day-1 first session, he is the perfect player to end up at 150* by day 1, 350* by day 2 and 400+ by lunch on day 3.

When is Bangladesh or West Indies visiting Australia?
 
Slog said:
no one

funnily enough, mainly because he is arguably the poorest from this list of batsmen, but I do think Azhar Ali has the best chance from these guys to do it if its going to happen.

All he needs to do is maybe increase the pace of his scoring

He is fast developing really good levels of concentration (touch wood) and while unlikely it is not beyond the realms of possibility that he could get in on a flat road in UAE on the first day and just keep chugging away against a mediocre attack
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Azhar has the least chance as he bats at about 3 runs per over to score 400 he has to play at least 130 overs himself. He might survive that many overs but for him to bat 130 overs the rest of our team has to probably play 120 overs. I dont see that happening as we that would mean we bat 3 days and are left with 2 days to get the other team out twice.
The person most likely to get it is Warner as he bats bats really fast he is someone that could score 300 runs a day. Others have the ability but rarely bat that fast for a large period of time.
 
I don't think any way can break that record.

Although I think the following are candidates.

Virat Kohli
Azhar Ali
Joe Root
Kane Williamson
Steve Smith

Although I think Azhar has the best chance out of them because of his outstanding temperament.
 
QalandarFan said:
I don't think any way can break that record.

Although I think the following are candidates.

Virat Kohli
Azhar Ali
Joe Root
Kane Williamson
Steve Smith

Although I think Azhar has the best chance out of them because of his outstanding temperament.
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For Azhar to get a 400, Pakistan will need to bat for 3 days. Not only is it unlikely, but it will also be stupid.
 
These are the skills a player requires in order to score 400, skills that Lara had:

- History of making big scores.
- Ability to bat long, more than 400 balls.
- Ability to bat at a SR of over 65-70 over the course of a long innings.
- Holding a position of respect in one's team, as in being an established member.

Looking at the above, we can eliminate Warner since he can't last for too long; Azhar because he won't be getting his runs quick enough to give him time to get to the 400 mark; Root because he doesn't have a history of getting in for the long haul and making huge scores; and it won't be any of the younger batsmen because no captain will sit around and let the youngster risk a team win for an individual milestone.

So the remaining contenders from OP's list are Amla, de Villiers, Williamson and Kohli. I would put my money on Kane but it has to be said, this record is probably never going to be broken.
 
Pantani said:
The only way I can see it happening is if in future an opener like Sehwag comes along and does something mad like scoring 300 in a day. Then there would be enough time still in the match for them to have a tilt at the record on day 2.
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agreed, only person capable is AB from that list. Kohli is too selfless and won't last long beyond a 200 AFAIK
 
Markhor said:
Nobody in world cricket is probably capable - and they probably wouldn't be as selfish as Brian Charles Lara in pursuing such a goal. West Indies could've won that Antigua Test after losing the first three matches of that 2004 series vs England.

But of course, BC had to have another day in the sun, another notch on his belt that he didn't need so screw the team.

For all of Lara's batting genius, and I was a huge admirer, his self-centred streak and pursuit of personal goals was sometimes at the expense of his team. Under Lara's captaincy, West Indies cricket became a byword for unprofessionalism, laziness, and decline.

Tony Cozier documented this extensively. He got away with murder in West Indian cricket but because of his status WICB never reprimanded him. He once described how the legendary Rohan Kanhai as coach once complained about being abused by some of his senior players. Yet the board sacked him and the players including Lara were retained. When Clive Lloyd was the coach, Lara and Hooper complained that he was overtraining them.

Ridley Jacobs said the same thing about Lara's selfishness. I remember reading on here how one time when Lara was fielding for Warwickshire, he had his mobile phone out whilst standing at third man. That summed up Lara's professionalism and attitude.

So even if one our players WERE capable of such a feat, I'd rather they not do it and put the team first unlike Brian Lara.
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the useless team that WI were at that time, any half decent batsman would have done the same. How many matches did the WI team lose in that era after Lara put them ahead through individual brilliance
 
It would have to be done by a captain, because nobody else would insist on batting for that long. They would want to move the game forward by getting the other side in.
 
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Bilal7 said:
These are the skills a player requires in order to score 400, skills that Lara had:

- History of making big scores.
- Ability to bat long, more than 400 balls.
- Ability to bat at a SR of over 65-70 over the course of a long innings.
- Holding a position of respect in one's team, as in being an established member.

Looking at the above, we can eliminate Warner since he can't last for too long; Azhar because he won't be getting his runs quick enough to give him time to get to the 400 mark; Root because he doesn't have a history of getting in for the long haul and making huge scores; and it won't be any of the younger batsmen because no captain will sit around and let the youngster risk a team win for an individual milestone.

So the remaining contenders from OP's list are Amla, de Villiers, Williamson and Kohli. I would put my money on Kane but it has to be said, this record is probably never going to be broken.
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I agree, but more than skills, it is the match situation that will prevent/does prevent batsmen from breaking the record. The only situation I envision is a team piling up 650-700 in 2 days with other team needing 3 days to secure a draw. In a situation like this, a top-order batsman will have enough time.

Clarke could have absolutely smashed it vs India in Sydney in 2012, but he didn't want to risk the result in any capacity.
 
Markhor said:
Nobody in world cricket is probably capable - and they probably wouldn't be as selfish as Brian Charles Lara in pursuing such a goal. West Indies could've won that Antigua Test after losing the first three matches of that 2004 series vs England.

But of course, BC had to have another day in the sun, another notch on his belt that he didn't need so screw the team.

For all of Lara's batting genius, and I was a huge admirer, his self-centred streak and pursuit of personal goals was sometimes at the expense of his team. Under Lara's captaincy, West Indies cricket became a byword for unprofessionalism, laziness, and decline.

Tony Cozier documented this extensively. He got away with murder in West Indian cricket but because of his status WICB never reprimanded him. He once described how the legendary Rohan Kanhai as coach once complained about being abused by some of his senior players. Yet the board sacked him and the players including Lara were retained. When Clive Lloyd was the coach, Lara and Hooper complained that he was overtraining them.

Ridley Jacobs said the same thing about Lara's selfishness. I remember reading on here how one time when Lara was fielding for Warwickshire, he had his mobile phone out whilst standing at third man. That summed up Lara's professionalism and attitude.

So even if one our players WERE capable of such a feat, I'd rather they not do it and put the team first unlike Brian Lara.
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