Rayyman
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Except on the field where you always keel over and lose.
The only team that keels over and loses. Pakistan either wins or they die trying.


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Except on the field where you always keel over and lose.
If we're gonna use stats, then look at the win-loss record.![]()
India T20 WC wins: 1
Pakistan T20 WC wins: 1
For all your chest beating you still have same number of WC wins.
Wow wow wow
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India has a higher W/L record overall than Pakistan in T20s as well as a 7-1 or 8-1 H2H. Talk na2
Pakistan ODI series wins in India since 2010: 1
India ODI series wins in Pakistan since 2010: 0
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Good for you, hope that helps you win a WC next time, not get embarrassed at home![]()
At least we have a home to play in where fans can come and cheer compared to not even being able to hold the PAKISTAN super league final in PAKISTAN.
Lol at people saying Ashwin,Dhawan won't get a PSL contract...BCCI can send likes of Uthappa,Karthik,Harbhajan Singh,Pathan bros and Binny and I can bet a $100, PSL franchises will be drooling over them leave alone players in the current scheme of things like Bumrah,Pandya etc. or bigger names.
Lol at people saying Ashwin,Dhawan won't get a PSL contract...BCCI can send likes of Uthappa,Karthik,Harbhajan Singh,Pathan bros and Binny and I can bet a $100, PSL franchises will be drooling over them leave alone players in the current scheme of things like Bumrah,Pandya etc. or bigger names.
Lol. Why would the PSL franchises drool over Binny? He's not very useful as a cricketer and not very marketable either.
He is better than Yasir and has the potential to be an ATG bowler/all-rounder. That is enough to go with now, I think.
You forgot Ashwin is also responsible for assembling the Avengers.
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He is better than the likes of Elliot, Gayle (he is finished), Malan, Delport, Sangakkara (in T20s) etc., He comfortably makes every single XI, he is one one of the best T20 players around. Raina will play every single match for every single franchise.
Again, Ashwin has no fan-following in Pakistan but he is a big draw. Having players like him makes the PSL a more prestigious competition and given how many Indians are there in the UAE, having Indian players will help the PSL attract bigger crowds. The IPL had massive crowds in the UAE, something the PSL can only dream of.
Obviously not all of them would turn up for the Indian players in the PSL, but they will easily attract more supporters than players from countries like England, Australia, SA etc.
[MENTION=138254]Syed1[/MENTION]
Lol these guys picking Dhawan, Pandya, Jadeja, Kumar, Chahal and Pandey!
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Average of 54 in Australia![]()
He is an inferior test bowler to Shah and an inferior LOI bowler to Tahir, out of the current crop. He will never become an ATG spinner or all-rounder even if the whole of India wishes him to at a meteor shower. Just not good enough away from home and even on his home pitches, he is no better than Kumble or Harbhajjan and neither of them is an ATG spinner.
Yes, you might be right about Raina. I don't see him getting paid big money for his services but he's still a good and exciting T20 player who will be picked up.
Ashwin is not a draw. Like I said, he is uncharasmatic, has a boring style of play and isn't very good at what he does in LOIs. Even in his home country, he isn't a superstar for his LOI exploits. No PSL team will pick him unless his asking price is terribly low.
Indian players definitely picked by the PSL:
1) Kohli
2) Rohit
3) Raina
4) Dhoni
5) Yuvraj
Pakistani players definitely picked by the IPL:
1) Afridi
2) Amir
3) Riaz
4) Malik
5) Tahir
Good enough. End thread.:
Are you kidding?
He is actually not very far off. People don't understand these leagues.Those kind of players are good enough to play these leagues and perform better than big names considering the format of the game and cost benefit factor. A few of the players he listed will definitely make it though not all.
India is a much better team than Pakistan in Limited Overs and the IPL is a much better league than the PSL. Yet, the number of Indians getting picked in the PSL will be the same as the number of Pakistanis getting picked in the IPL.
Amazing logic.:
Pakistan has hundreds of Jadejas.
Not sure why Raina is mentioned here. He isn't even in Indian team.
Ashwin is more popular than Badree and Narine because he plays for India and is one of their best players. He will be one of the first names to get picked in a PSL draft. He is definitely an iconic cricketer now and has the reputation of a match-winner. Not every player has to be a crowd-puller, but Ashwin will certainly attract the Indian cricket fans in the UAE to the PSL.
Raina will get picked as well, he is a tremendous T20 player.
Rahane and Saha probably won't get picked, neither will Pujara, but the likes of Shami, Rohit and Dhawan will get picked. Basically the players who have been playing LOIs regularly for India and are renowned.
Lol at people saying Ashwin,Dhawan won't get a PSL contract...BCCI can send likes of Uthappa,Karthik,Harbhajan Singh,Pathan bros and Binny and I can bet a $100, PSL franchises will be drooling over them leave alone players in the current scheme of things like Bumrah,Pandya etc. or bigger names.
Ask [MENTION=134809]sensible-indian-fan[/MENTION]More like hundreds of poor imitations of Jadeja. He is better than anyone in Pakistan in his role.
He is as good as a specialist Test spinner. The closest to him in Pakistan is Imad, but Jadeja is the better player.
Ask [MENTION=134809]sensible-indian-fan[/MENTION]
Jadeja is mediocre in T20Is as a bowler and he won't even get to bat most games.
Even Hasan Khan has an economy of 6 and Nawaz has won games. Quetta has Zulfi too. KK has Imad. PZ have Shakib and Asghar. LQ have Zafar and IU have Khalid+Zohaib. Nobody needs Jadeja.
Pakistan has hundreds of Jadejas.
PSL has just 5 teams. I am sure PSL owners are dying to sign up the likes of Pandya, Uthapa, Karthik, etc. The delusion is mind-boggling here.
As per some PP'ers if you are not Pakistani then you are automatically better even if there is empirical evidence to suggest otherwise.
I didn't get a simple answer....Bhajji or Nawaz?
Uthappa/Karthik or Rizwan?
Rizwan is a better keeper than both
As a T20 player because this thread was about PSL,wasn't it?
I don't think you need specialist keepers for T20.You know the answer who are better T20 franchise players.
I don't think you have said it though...I am just making a point to those who said some big names from India would struggle to get a PSL contract.
No man you are right even uncapped domestic Indian youngsters are better than every Pakistani cricketer. Infact we should change the name to India Super League and have 7 Indians in the side and a max of 4 Pakistani cricketers.
No man you are right even uncapped domestic Indian youngsters are better than every Pakistani cricketer. Infact we should change the name to India Super League and have 7 Indians in the side and a max of 4 Pakistani cricketers.
Imad Wasim and Mohammad Nawaz. That's a start.Can you name 2-3? that will be a start
Ashwin is not an iconic Cricketer. Even, Indian fans will not go that far. The only iconic cricketer in Indian team right now is Virat Kohli who I know will be the most expensive pick in the PSL if he is ever allowed to play in the league.
Also, you are mixing up his match-winning capability in tests (and that too in Asia) with ODIs and T20s which absolutely does not make any sense.
The PSL is not televised in South Africa. Are there any Indians participating in the tournament
Don't think even AB Devillers,Steve Smith etc. play multiple leagues either.