Which ODI team is better : Bangladesh or Pakistan?

[MenInG]

In light of today's fantastic result and also in the manner in which Pakistan took on SA - what is the verdict?

 

[StreetSmart]

Bangladesh, there batting is better than Pakistan

 

[Coconut]

There's no difference between Bangla, SL and Pak in limited overs Cricket. Anyone can beat anyone on their given day.

 

[Pakpak]

Would we able to chase like this? But then again would they be able to blow against SA at a major event?

We need a series soon, but I would say they're slightly better than us. In Tests however there is no comparison.

 

[captain crook]

Even the die hard Pakistani in me is telling it's Bangladesh. They have pretty impactful players. Easily better than Pakistan and the rankings are correctly reflecting it. Pakistan would have collapsed for under 230 today against Kiwi bowling line up, to put thins into perspective.

 

[Pakpak]

There's no difference between Bangla, SL and Pak in limited overs Cricket. Anyone can beat anyone on their given day.

Sri Lanka's batting is easily better than ours, there is no way we are ever chasing 320 against any top team in a normal match never mind a major tournament.

 

[captain crook]

Would we able to chase like this? But then again would they be able to blow against SA at a major event?

We need a series soon, but I would say they're slightly better than us. In Tests however there is no comparison.

Bangladesh 'upset' SA in 2007 world cup when we couldn't enter the 2nd round.

 

[big_gamer007]

On their day any team can beat anyone.. A 5 match series in BD and then in UAE should give a fair idea which team is stronger.. ATM no one can say for sure which one is better than the other

 

[ToeCrusher2]

Bangladesh batting >>>> Pakistan Batting

Bangladesh bowling << Pakistan bowing

Overall Bangladesh is better but not by much, pak will win in bowling friendly conditions similar to south africa match and bangladesh will win on batting friendly tracks

 

[Shaik]

UNBIASED

1.INDIA
2.BANGLADESH
3.SRL&PAK(Both have the core set of players, need to develop the team)
5.AFGHANISTAN

 

[Pakpak]

Even the die hard Pakistani in me is telling it's Bangladesh. They have pretty impactful players. Easily better than Pakistan and the rankings are correctly reflecting it. Pakistan would have collapsed for under 230 today against Kiwi bowling line up, to put thins into perspective.

Pretty much. At 33-4 we'd tuktuk our way to 180.

 

[Pakpak]

Bangladesh batting >>>> Pakistan Batting

Bangladesh bowling << Pakistan bowing

Overall Bangladesh is better but not by much, pak will win in bowling friendly conditions similar to south africa match and bangladesh will win on batting friendly tracks

Fair assessment.

 

[Executioner]

Personally if you ask me I would say Bangladesh.

But tbh Pakistan are more than a decent side. They are not minnows. I would say 54-45 Bangladesh Pakistan

Bangladesh is at their peak considering that we have some 4 batsman at their peak. Imagine having 4 potentially world class senior batsmen all at their peak.

 

[captain crook]

Pakistan needs to improve before Afghanistan starts to beat us. Kick Hafeez, Shehzad, Malik out and start building a new core immediately!!!

 

[Pakpak]

Bangladesh 'upset' SA in 2007 world cup when we couldn't enter the 2nd round.

We have beaten Australia, South Africa multiple times and knocked them out multiple times too, have they done that? Upsets really don't count as noone took them seriously back then.

Why are you mentioning a decade old world cup anyway? I am talking about now. And right now they are slightly better than us.

But then again, why am I wasting my time against a poster who thought the our bowlers didn't try delibrately in the warmups.

 

[Madplayer]

Personally if you ask me I would say Bangladesh.

But tbh Pakistan are more than a decent side. They are not minnows. I would say 54-45 Bangladesh Pakistan

Bangladesh is at their peak considering that we have some 4 batsman at their peak. Imagine having 4 potentially world class senior batsmen all at their peak.

What about the remaining 1%?

 

[captain crook]

Personally if you ask me I would say Bangladesh.

But tbh Pakistan are more than a decent side. They are not minnows. I would say 54-45 Bangladesh Pakistan

Bangladesh is at their peak considering that we have some 4 batsman at their peak. Imagine having 4 potentially world class senior batsmen all at their peak.

Last time an Asian team had it, they were called Fab 4.

 

[Pakpak]

Personally if you ask me I would say Bangladesh.

But tbh Pakistan are more than a decent side. They are not minnows. I would say 54-45 Bangladesh Pakistan

Bangladesh is at their peak considering that we have some 4 batsman at their peak. Imagine having 4 potentially world class senior batsmen all at their peak.

Hence why I am bemused when BD fans bash Shakib, the guy is a quality player.

 

[Shutdown Corner]

I think fans of both teams should just bask in their recent victories rather than go into comparisons. At least unless and until we are both matched up in the semis or the final.

For that matter neither team has qualified yet.

 

[Syed1]

Bangla batting is miles ahead of Pak.


However, our bowling is better.

 

[Pakpak]

Pakistan needs to improve before Afghanistan starts to beat us. Kick Hafeez, Shehzad, Malik out and start building a new core immediately!!!

Yeah, Afghanistan who are getting thrashed by WI will step up and beat us.

Welcome to my ignore list along with a few other nonsensical posters.

 

[Executioner]

Bangladesh batting >>>> Pakistan Batting

Bangladesh bowling << Pakistan bowing

Overall Bangladesh is better but not by much, pak will win in bowling friendly conditions similar to south africa match and bangladesh will win on batting friendly tracks

I wouldnt say our batting so much better but I feel that our fielding is marginally better and both teams are equal in terms of bowling ability. We have been a decent bowling unit. Look at our performances in the past. We restricted nZ to 265 on a flat wicket. Pakistan are good too but I just feel BD too are good.

Let me tell you that Bangladesh bowling was what won us our matches in the past. Our batting isn't special. Rather ordinary

 

[captain crook]

We have beaten Australia, South Africa multiple times and knocked them out multiple times too, have they done that? Upsets really don't count as noone took them seriously back then.

Why are you mentioning a decade old world cup anyway? I am talking about now. And right now they are slightly better than us.

But then again, why am I wasting my time against a poster who thought the our bowlers didn't try delibrately in the warmups.

Hello sir. Have you seen how Hasan, Amir, Juanid bowled in the main tournament? Now tell me. Were they trying to practice and get it right or were they bowling full throttle? Leaving the judgment to you. You seem to be clever enough.

 

[sadida97]

Bangladesh is playing their best possible side


Pakistan is not playing their best side

 

[cricketInsight]

To be successful in ODIs, you need a good batting side - Bowlers aren't going to win you many ODIs these days.

Bangladesh has a much stronger batting side when compared to Paksitan and their bowling is not too far behind Pakistan. So, yes, at this time Bangladesh is the stronger side.

 

[Arham_PakFan]

Bangaldesh have better batsmen than us,while we have the better bowlers.But Bangladesh isn't that ahead of us and they beat their whipping boys so i'd reckon Ban-Pak are like [MENTION=130260]Executioner[/MENTION] said 55-45.

 

[Sane.Cricket.Fan]

As a TEAM Bangladesh has a sorted line-up... As for Pakistan the playing 11 has not been clear for many years now

 

[TahirFan]

I don't think Pakistani batsmen can achieve a 224 run partnership
Bangladesh better in the batting department but Pakistan better in the bowling department

 

[MMHS]

There are 4/5 Inzi special in the PAK starting XI, which makes the team far worse than what it is now.

I put it other way - if we are to carry the "load" of Azhar, MoHa, Wahab, Shehzad, JK in playing XI .... Afghans will come into equation.

It'll be very tight series if my choice XV are picked by both teams. I'll put my money on BD, because we have mentally tougher players.

 

[backfootpunch]

their*

 

[The_Odd_One]

Bangladesh has better batting, Pakistan has better bowling. Bangladesh is slightly ahead because batting strength counts more in ODIs.

Once, Pakistan gets rid or Shehzad, Azhar, and Hafeez from their batting unit, both teams will be on par.

 

[rinathq]

With wins against New Zealand, South Africa.. Both Bangladesh and Pakistan has revived their reputation of an improving team. It wasnt easy beating these teams who were clear favorites walking in away conditions. I would say Bangladesh and Pakistan are very close at the moment. Bangladesh gets a slight advantage as the core is more experienced compared to the other.

 

[Coconut]

Bangla batting is miles ahead of Pak.


However, our bowling is better.

Bangladesh bowling is absolutely rubbish.

Fizz is overrated who has already been found out.

Taskin is a Spray gun. Not suitable for limited overs Cricket.

Mashrafe is unfit, he should've retired ages ago.

Compared to this Pak has amir, Hasan and Shadab. Pak bowling is way better than Bangladesh.

 

[backfootpunch]

Bangladesh but they will feel the heat more than Pak in an ICC game. Pak have that psychological advantage over them.

 

[Bleedgreen4ever]

Pakistan 70 percent
Bangladesh 30 percent

 

[Hasan123]

Bangldesh is just ahead, if Pakistan can get rid of the deadwood they will go ahead.

 

[Azeem Zafar]

Bangladesh's batting is better, Pakistan's bowling is better. I guess Bangladesh are a little bit ahead in fielding & fitness, but Pakistan are slowly catching up.

 

[KingKhanWC]

Pakistan is easily the better side. Kiwi's were poor today.

Bangladesh have decent batsmen and decent bowlers but no world class players. Hasan, Amir, Shadab, Junaid, Babar, Malik and Imad would walk right into their team. Only Tamin and Shakib possibly would get into the Pak team.

 

[KingKhanWC]

In light of today's fantastic result and also in the manner in which Pakistan took on SA - what is the verdict?

Can we have a poll please? Too many ppers seem to be on the fence.

 

[AZulfi]

BD batting is better. more flair, more attacking players

Pak bowling is better

 

[10sion]

Pakistan is easily the better side. Kiwi's were poor today.

Bangladesh have decent batsmen and decent bowlers but no world class players. Hasan, Amir, Shadab, Junaid, Babar, Malik and Imad would walk right into their team. Only Tamin and Shakib possibly would get into the Pak team.

Imad? Nope.

Mahmudullah and Mushfiqur will get into Pak XI.

 

[FreakCricket]

Bangladesh is better but I still put my money on pakistan against them in big tournaments. They are our permanent punching bag

 

[Shutdown Corner]

Bangladesh is playing their best possible side


Pakistan is not playing their best side

Bangladesh didn't play their best possible side until about 2 years ago

 

[ExpressPacer]

[MENTION=21699]Pakpak[/MENTION] Good to see you posting on the Cricket forum. You're absolutely on point with your analysis here.

 

[KingKhanWC]

Imad? Nope.

Mahmudullah and Mushfiqur will get into Pak XI.

You guys love spin bowlers and he is a very good LO bowler who can hit big too.

Mahmudllah is too inconistenct. Sure he was good today but often bottles it. As for Mushy, we don't like guys who scream.

If you ask Eng,Aus,SA, SL and even NZ, who would they rather face in a final , it would be Bangladesh not PAkistan.

 

[Anik Sharma]

Bangladesh

 

[Shutdown Corner]

Pakistan is easily the better side. Kiwi's were poor today.

Bangladesh have decent batsmen and decent bowlers but no world class players. Hasan, Amir, Shadab, Junaid, Babar, Malik and Imad would walk right into their team. Only Tamin and Shakib possibly would get into the Pak team.

Those guys would walk into our side...

...right before our side drops a couple of spots in the rankings table. LOL

 

[Arsalan Pro]

Pakistan

 

[DRsohail]

Imad? Nope.

Mahmudullah and Mushfiqur will get into Pak XI.

yes ...both are good players...but ur fast bowling is still weak a 3rd pacer is needed,,,,our pace is decent....amir hassan and junaid can walk into bangladesh side and malik and babar azam from batting side,,for shadab its 50.50 at the moment so 55,45 in bangladesh favor for their overall team.we have many passengers in our team,if we lay our best eleven then it will be 50,50..

 

[member250]

Bangladesh batting is way better as long as we continue with 80's style batters Azhar, Shezad and Hafeez. Pakistan need big hitters....

 

[ShahKhan007]

If we defeat Sri Lanka in a do or die match than the balance will be tilted in Pakistan's favour but if we wilt under pressure as we have become accustom to than I am afraid it will be hard to argue against Bangladesh overtakimg us in limited overs cricket.

 

[Pollack]

Bangladesh batting better.
Pakistan bowling better.

 

[bujhee kom]

Bangladesh.

Batting much, much better (after India, Eng and Aus, we have the best batting).
Bowling is equal or Bangladesh is slightly better owing to Fizz.
Fielding - equal.

In Bangladesh or UAE/Pak, we would win a 5 match series 4-1.

 

[Magyar]

Batting : BD>PAK
Bowling: BD<PAK

 

[Pollack]

Bangladesh.

Batting much, much better (after India, Eng and Aus, we have the best batting).
Bowling is equal or Bangladesh is slightly better owing to Fizz.
Fielding - equal.

In Bangladesh or UAE/Pak, we would win a 5 match series 4-1.

Fizz is fuss.. Losing his influence slowly. Over rated a bit.

 

[bujhee kom]

Fizz is fuss.. Losing his influence slowly. Over rated a bit.

There is no better t20 or 50 over bowler in Asia.

 

[Syed1]

There is no better t20 or 50 over bowler in Asia.

Not really. There are several who are better than him.

 

[bujhee kom]

Not really. There are several who are better than him.

Please name them brother. With logical reasoning at hand.

 

[MenInG]

Look at the current rankings QED.

 

[Pete Rose]

At 4 down: we would have sarfaraz and malik/imad batting against NZ. I think the answer is pretty clear.

 

[srh]

At 4 down: we would have sarfaraz and malik/imad batting against NZ. I think the answer is pretty clear.

this is really a mismatch batting wise.

 

[Usman Chadda]

Pakistan. Since we won our last game against them in a gut-wrenching manner. Having said that, Bangladesh has improved loads and their batting is definitely superior and experienced as compared to Pakistan.

 

[Syed1]

Please name them brother. With logical reasoning at hand.

I do not have time to go and check all of the top names but I checked Mustafizur Rahman and Hasan Ali and these are both's stats since 1 Jan 2016 (1.5 year is long enough time for actual abilities to emerge).

In that time period, Rahman has played 12 matches picked up 18 wickets with zero fifers and an average of 27.61.

In the same period Hasan Ali has played 18 matches picked up 33 wickets with two fifers and an average of 25.90.



Clear difference in quality between Hasan and Rahman in the last 1.5 years.

 

[Hamza78]

Pakistan batter it's just pcb who's mess Pakistan cricket when next year in sha Allah imran khan win election we will see the different

 

[GenericBrand]

BDs bowling has regressed once Walsh took over, this was their best bowling performance I've seen in some time

 

[Jabo]

Bang are a lot more fearless

We would have barely made that chase or lost even though it was a below par score

 

[PakLFC]

Bang's batting and fielding is better for sure. Our bowling is better on most days if Wahab does not play. We seem to have some psychological hold on Bangladesh that no matter how many they set us we somehow manage to chase it down. If both play to their potential I believe we are better.

 

[Executioner]

A combined XI would be

Tamim
Soumya
Babar
Mushfiqur
Shakib
Malik
Riad
Miraz
Fizz
Amir
Hassan

I would take 4 Pakistan players in BD XI gladly

 

[ethan hunt]

Not being biased but i actually feel that Pakistan is way better and that will reflect in the rankings soon . I have seen a bit of the BPL and the depth in bangla cricket is pretty ordinary .
Pakistan have world class bowlers and good upcoming batsmen .
In tests and t20s its a no contest .
In ODIs pakistan were very poor under azhar but have enough good players coming through .
Bangladesh are an improved side especially their mindset but we have to rember that they have been dire in the tournament so far leading up to this game including the warm up matches.
We should enjoy each other's/own performances rather than creating these silly comparison threads everyday.

 

[ChachaPakistani]

Pakistan needs to improve before Afghanistan starts to beat us. Kick Hafeez, Shehzad, Malik out and start building a new core immediately!!!

Still astonished that people still want to kick Malik out, he's been absolutely superb. Don't box him in with those trash players.

 

[Square Drive]

Kick out Hafeez & Azhar, and it's Pakistan without a shadow of doubt.

 

[KyoOne]

Pakistan after ouster of Shezzy and Wahab

 

[hisham_ashraf]

Personally if you ask me I would say Bangladesh.

But tbh Pakistan are more than a decent side. They are not minnows. I would say 54-45 Bangladesh Pakistan

Bangladesh is at their peak considering that we have some 4 batsman at their peak. Imagine having 4 potentially world class senior batsmen all at their peak.

Who said that Pak are minnows and where does the remaining 1% go?.Love this Bangla team though..

 

[aniket1911]

Well I still think Pakistan is better side. Their bowling gives them edge and if their openers replaced with even second class modern openers they will do wonders.

That being said, Bangladesh is catching up fast.

 

[Executioner]

Who said that Pak are minnows and where does the remaining 1% go?.Love this Bangla team though..

A lot of Pakistan fans claims their own team as minnows.

Btw that 1 percent I will keep to myself

 

[Pete Rose]

This thread is real challenge for some Pakistani fans. How to be a generous troll?
- 'I feel....'
- 'I think.....'
- 'pakistan will be better...'
- 'up and coming talent from Pakistan will makes us better....'
- 'it's wrong to compare basis one match....'
- '....we have better bowlers'
- '.....but Bangladesh are catching up'

 

[MenInG]

Lets see if any opinions have changed

 

[Lol-ism]

Salam, new Bangladeshi member here. Been lurking around for a while now but haven't posted.

On topic - Bangladesh batting >>> Pakistan batting. Bangladesh bowling < Pakistan bowling. Bangladesh fielding = Pakistan fielding.

I'd like to go with Bangladesh overall solely due to them having more dynamic players and literally no deadwoods whose we need to call for.

 

[Hasan2K8]

Bangladesh currently is better than Pakistan in ODI. Ranked 6th. Have been better since 2015 WC.

BD has excellent understanding of this format since last 2-3years in particular. But, I'd say 2010, it started changing in ODI format. The results have been excellent since the last WC, but the start was 2010!

This BD, players know what they need to do in this format, how to pace the innings/chase, how to bring back the game from bad positions etc. Now, there is more beliefs and confidence all round. Against NZ, it was looking NZ will get close to 300, BD pegged it back taking wickets crucial times. And, this one of the things what BD have been doing very well since the last WC, taking wickets at crucial moments and bringing the game back in their favour even from bad positions. In the past they'd given up, not anymore.

Overall, there's better balance, control and understanding for ODI format. Led by Mashrafe Bin Mortaza - Things have worked great for BD since the last WC, long may it continue.