Which style of cricket do you think Pakistan should follow?

[Hasan123]

Just watching the start of England vs Australia, even though England are 2 down they are still looking to attack and put the pressure back on Australia.

Whilst India (probably the 2nd best ODI team after England) look to preserve wickets and accelerate at the end.

Which style do you prefer, keep on attacking no matter the situation or preserve wickets and accelerate at the end of the innings. Both styles have pros and cons.

Which one would you prefer Pakistan follow?

 

[RyanRyan10]

England

Since it's most effective

Sharjeel
Fakhar
Babar
Haider
Haris
Rizwan
Imad
Shadab
Wahab
Amir
Shaheen

Sharjeel & Fakhar can be as destructive as Roy & Bairstow

Babar = Root in Odis

Haider will be as good as Morgan.

Stokes & Buttler >>>>> Haris & Rizwan

Among 5 bowlers, 4 can bat which is very similar to English line up. And Pakistanis bowlers are potentially better than English.

So overall this team can be as good as England.

 

[shamaan]

Defo england but you need players who are willing to take risks and fear of failure.

Sharjeel
Fakhar
Babar
Haider
Harris sohail
Mohammed rizwan ?
Imad
Shadab
Rauf
Shaheen
Husnain

 

[Smudger]

Pak should follow their own style. One which they are comfortable with. I think they will lean towards the Indian style. They scored huge scores in 2019 seriesin Eng. It helps that Pak has a very good tail(when wahab and Hassan play)

 

[JattMaula]

Every team should start with English templet. They are the current World champions. Tinker it according the resources available.

I'm sure India would love 2 pace bowling all-rounder of stokes and woakes class but they have to work with what they got.

Pakistan has lot talent so that's not an issue for them.

 

[Varun]

Why deviate from the signature Pakistani tuk-tuk style?

The connoisseur is your head coach and chief selector at that.

 

[HappyWarsFan]

The India style. It's more balanced and works on more kind of conditions. Likes of Babar, Imam can anchor the beginning of innings, then Haider, Iftikhar can look to accelerate at the end.

 

[Kaka4pope]

Defo england but you need players who are willing to take risks and fear of failure.

Sharjeel
Fakhar
Babar
Haider
Harris sohail
Mohammed rizwan ?
Imad
Shadab
Rauf
Shaheen
Husnain

Still think Hassan Ali can find his gear again in white ball cricket at least, I’d also change the bat order a little, Rizwan can do the anchoring at 4 - finding gaps at around a run a ball, leave the bigger hitting needed later to Haris then Haider...

Sharjeel, Fakhar, Babar, Rizwan, Haris, Haider, Imad, Shadab, Hassan, Rauf, Shaheen

Remaining problem is where Sharjeel goes if we don’t have a slip - in general Pakistan’s speed in the outfield also needs work. Also both spinners can hit, less sure about the mystery in their bowling - neither are foxy.

 

[shamaan]

Still think Hassan Ali can find his gear again in white ball cricket at least, I’d also change the bat order a little, Rizwan can do the anchoring at 4 - finding gaps at around a run a ball, leave the bigger hitting needed later to Haris then Haider...

Sharjeel, Fakhar, Babar, Rizwan, Haris, Haider, Imad, Shadab, Hassan, Rauf, Shaheen

Remaining problem is where Sharjeel goes if we don’t have a slip - in general Pakistan’s speed in the outfield also needs work. Also both spinners can hit, less sure about the mystery in their bowling - neither are foxy.

Hassan ali needs to get back to first class cricket improve his fitness once he does that he can be brought back in the squad as we know he can hit big to which our bowlers cant.

Tbh I prefer to see haider or Harris sohail at 4 we dont wanna use haider down the bottom he can play like morgan.for now am happy with rizwan but I prefer to see a keeper who can hit big.

Sharjeel has been working on his fitness but obvs not the best in the field as long as we dont have many crap fielders we defo have gone better in the field which the youngesters in the team

I'd like to see a keeper who can hit big against the Zimbabwe

 

[Kroll]

Pakistan need to address their mental issues which has plagued them for as long as I can remember, especially when chasing. Pakistan are not a side capable of chasing a big total once they're 4 or 5 quick wickets down. They end up wilting like a pack of cards or tuk tuking their way to a dead end.

They wouldn't have been able to recover like Australia did tonight after being a few wickets down early on. This is why mental midgets like Hafeez are not as successful in the 50 over or Test match cricket, they can come in a bash the ball around for a few overs in T20 and suddenly people think he's the reincarnation of Viv Richards.

It's evident that Pakistan isn't very good at analysis and developing any long terms strategy. So in addition to any template, there has to be more planning in the background. I personally don't think Misbah would adopt the English tactics as he's more defensive and would back the conserve wickets approach. This is the reason we saw a lot of sub 250 totals when Misbah was captain.

 

[Bigboii]

Definitely Indian it suits us, resources wise,wicket wise

India is "all around" a better team than England (if we compare all formats) but maybe they're not mentally strong enough to win a tournament after Dohni but that doesn't mean thier combination or team isn't good enough

In T20 I think we are good enough(people who played under Micky are still around and young) we focus on our bowling and go back to what worked with Mickey

 

[Bigboii]

I am surprised that Indian posters are recommending England style cause I don't think that their style is good

1- outside of England
2- You cannot replicate that style in Tests (maybe even in T20's cause their bowling is all about containment)

 

[Bigboii]

I am surprised that Indian posters are recommending England style cause I don't think that their style is good

1- outside of England
2- You cannot replicate that style in Tests (maybe even in T20's cause their bowling is all about containment)

I am surprised that Indian posters are recommending England style cause I don't think that their style is good

1- outside of England
2- You cannot consistently win with that style in Tests (maybe even in T20's cause their bowling is all about containment)

 

[hoshiarpurexpress]

I am surprised that Indian posters are recommending England style cause I don't think that their style is good

1- outside of England
2- You cannot consistently win with that style in Tests (maybe even in T20's cause their bowling is all about containment)

agree with your points. But 80-90% of ODI pitches all over the world are dead,flat roads now.
In Sub-continent, there is some help to spinners.
So English style will still win you 80-90% of the games. That is a good ratio.

 

[JattMaula]

I am surprised that Indian posters are recommending England style cause I don't think that their style is good

1- outside of England
2- You cannot consistently win with that style in Tests (maybe even in T20's cause their bowling is all about containment)

I thought we were discussing limited ODI's.

 

[jeeteshssaxena]

England's style of batting suits them coz they have arguably the best batting lineup filled with superstars like Buttler Morgan,stokes etc.
Their bowlers know how to bat ,woakes,Curran,Rashid,wood all are good enough to score quick runs down the order.
Their batting style involves high risk and this style should only be implemented when you have a comparable batting lineup .Pakistan's best batsman bats at 85 sr ,how do you think that it's even possible?lol

Even indian batting lineup is not good enough to implement this style,let alone pakistan.

 

[Sidilicious]

Surely the style of batting is a function of players available to the team (or in England's case, function of who can ECB steal from other countries).

England has a line up that can reliably score runs at a decent rate till 9. This allows their top order to go after the bowling from the start, knowing that there is enough batting to cover up for any failures at the top.

India on the other hand does not have a reliable middle order, and 8-11 can hardly hold the bat. So they have no option but to play safe and then go after the bowling. This ensures that they can set a competitive score most of the time and once in a while put an invincible score. With Kohli around, this is also the perfect way to approach a chase.

Had India's middle order been a bit more reliable and 8 & 9 could hold a bat (Harbhajan & Zak in the noughties) the top order (other than Rohit) could have been a bite more aggressive.

So Pakistan needs to see who are its best batsman and what sort of skills do they have at their disposal. I doubt the Pakistani Middle order is as strong as England's. So they are better off taking fewer risks in the beginning and later accelerating. This will ensure that they set a competitive score that their bowlers have a chance to defend. Going gung ho might work a few times, but more often than not, they will find themselves out of the game rather early on in the innings.

 

[MMHS]

PAK should follow their style to be honest - they don’t have the players for either style OP mentioned here. There top order isn’t explosive enough, the tail isn’t deep enough either. Their game has to roam around bowling.

So, I’ll stick to what was PAK’s strength - bowling. Bat sensibly and play out 50 overs for a strong finish (but not explosive finish - capability is not there) & then bowl to get 10 wickets for lesser cost. Or other way, if bowling first - try to restrict the target at a level that playing out 50 overs can win the game.

 

[Rayyman]

Pakistan has a really good middle order so they should follow the New Zealand model.

Look how similar the middle order is:

3. Williamson = Babar
4. Taylor = Haris
5. Latham = Rizwan
6. Neesham = Imad
7. De Grandhomme = Faheem
8. Santner = Shadab