Which team is peaking at the right time in ICC World Cup 2019?

[greatest]

Has India peaked early before the World Cup?

Do u think India has peaked too early before the World Cup and other teams might just get their act together before or during the tournament?

I remember before the 92 WC , Australia were clear favourites. They were the best ODI team in the world, had recently won the ODI series comfortably 4-1 in the West Indies, the first team to win an ODI series in the West Indies, plus the World Series Cup, great fielding side, quality all rounders in Waugh, Moody, best ODI batsman Dean Jones, home conditions and surprisingly struggled in the whole tournament.

Same in 96 WC, Sri Lanka surprised everyone and also in 87 Australia too shocked with winning the final.

Yes, Australia were the favourites and won in 2003 and 2007 but it's mostly the team which peaks at the right moment wins the tournament.

 

[a_tahir]

Is that even a thing?

 

[jnaveen1980]

lol Peaking comes into picture once the world cup starts not 3 months before. You use that term within the tournament.

 

[lahoriyah1234]

I just hope Pakistan dont peak too early. Want them to go as a underdogs.

 

[jagatk]

So India and everyone else should lose games before the world cup so as to win the cup, what bizarre logic is this?

 

[greatest]

Everyone says they are the favourites, aren't they?

 

[a_tahir]

So India and everyone else should lose games before the world cup so as to win the cup, what bizarre logic is this?

It's more about the pressure.
If u peak early then the pressure to win increases.

 

[greatest]

It's what history tells u my friend!

 

[Rahul1]

What exactly does 'peaking early' means?

 

[BreadPakoda]

Everyone says they are the favourites, aren't they?

No. India aren’t favourites.

 

[vandokkum]

Last 4 world cup winners were favorites to win, this seems like sour grapes.

 

[Sin Nombre]

Lol.

Indian fans hate almost half the starting xi and think they can be improved on.

They are quite some ways away from peaking.

Not that it matters anyways.

 

[greatest]

A team going through a phase where they are playing like being invincible or being the best from the rest!

 

[jnaveen1980]

It's more about the pressure.
If u peak early then the pressure to win increases.

India deliberately puts themselves under pressure by resting players, choosing to bat first when fielding first is ideal still win. That is not peaking early. That is preparing well for all scenarios. This team has some holes that can be exploited by others on a bad day. Nobody denies that. But that applies to all the teams as wel.

 

[xricket]

Losing a series, provide so much opportunity to improve, thinking what the team got wrong. I still think, the tour to south africa, may not be successful, but it will be successful for the world cup, considering we could have made such mistakes in that tournament, and now we should learn from them and hopefull wont make them

 

[Sachin136]

Last 4 world cup winners were favorites to win, this seems like sour grapes.

Australia weren't really favourites last WC.

 

[cr7great]

we are going to win this world cup undefeated.

 

[Buffet]

Early to peak is nonsense. If India plays well in WC, they will have a chance to win like any other team. They can also get one of those 90 all out and if it happens in knockout then they won't win.

 

[BreadPakoda]

I just hope Pakistan dont peak too early. Want them to go as a underdogs.

How did that work out in...umm every world cup in the last 15 years?

 

[geraltofrivia]

Australia weren't really favourites last WC.

They were. Their entire team was in hot form and in home conditions too.

 

[greatest]

But aren't they winning games?

 

[Buffet]

Australia weren't really favourites last WC.

Their team was tailor made for flat Aus wickets. Batting had depth.

 

[Tyler Durden]

Losing a series, provide so much opportunity to improve, thinking what the team got wrong. I still think, the tour to south africa, may not be successful, but it will be successful for the world cup, considering we could have made such mistakes in that tournament, and now we should learn from them and hopefull wont make them

Lol! What lessons did Pakistan learn after Asia Cup thrashing? and what improvements did you see after the terrible exit in Asia Cup?

 

[greatest]

What happened to India in 2007 WC?

 

[Sin Nombre]

Their team was tailor made for flat Aus wickets. Batting had depth.

Australia were almost even odds heading into the WC.

Much better odds than England this time.

 

[greatest]

Bro, we should not talk about Pakistan, because they are a minnow and have zero chance.

 

[Nikhil_cric]

Australia weren't really favourites last WC.

They were favourites to win in their home conditions.

 

[Minnowbasher]

Peaking early )
I suppose we should all make dua Pakistan loses vs Australia and England because we don't wanna "peak too early"

 

[geraltofrivia]

What happened to India in 2007 WC?

India was hardly winning games pre 2007 wc. They had lost in sa prior to wc and aus were anyways the favs.

 

[leonidas_alexandar]

Peaking too early to me is one of those made up nonsensical terms. Australia won the World Cup a phenomenal 5 times and at least 3 times they were winning games in a row much before the actual beginning of the past World Cups.

I almost think all these terms are invented by the sub continent fans just to soften the blow of the reality that their teams historically have been inconsistent.

Same thing with the tag of some teams being mercurial. Winning 1 game out of 6 games is put down to the team being "mercurial" or the "real team showing up on that particular day".

Good teams are generally very consistent and that includes their runs in a World Cup or any such big tournament.

 

[rhony]

Peaking early is just bogus. I'm impressed with the way Indians have put themselves in several situations and still came out on top. Other than the 4th odi, it looks like a well oiled machine.

In yesterday's game, they deliberately chose to bat first. The ball was swinging around while India was batting and the pitch was holding up a bit later in their innings. In NZ innings, the pitch allowed the ball to skid on. They tested themselves during batting and bowling and came out on top.

A unique top 3 that can explode or play anchor, a great and diversified bowling unit with 2 wicket taking wrist spinners, a very good all rounder and a middle order that can chase good scores. Indian team is ready for WC and they will be well tuned because of IPL before the WC. Barring injuries, I don't see this Indian team missing a SF spot.

 

[jnaveen1980]

IN current scenario every team has lot of holes. India has some class players who manage to cover the holes so far. On a day they don't show up all holes will be wide open. Don't over-rate our team. We are good. Just better than others. In my view this has to be one of the weakest batting line up ever to be sent to a world cup.

 

[greatest]

India was hardly winning games pre 2007 wc. They had lost in sa prior to wc and aus were anyways the favs.

Well they won 4-1 in Pakistan and we're fav to reach the last four. They were a quality side.

 

[greatest]

Peaking early is just bogus. I'm impressed with the way Indians have put themselves in several situations and still came out on top. Other than the 4th odi, it looks like a well oiled machine.

In yesterday's game, they deliberately chose to bat first. The ball was swinging around while India was batting and the pitch was holding up a bit later in their innings. In NZ innings, the pitch allowed the ball to skid on. They tested themselves during batting and bowling and came out on top.

A unique top 3 that can explode or play anchor, a great and diversified bowling unit with 2 wicket taking wrist spinners, a very good all rounder and a middle order that can chase good scores. Indian team is ready for WC and they will be well tuned because of IPL before the WC. Barring injuries, I don't see this Indian team missing a SF spot.

It's an unpredictable game! Let's watch and see what happens!

 

[greatest]

Why did India lose the Champions Trophy final to a Pakistani team which no one had given a chance before the tournament and that too by such a huge margin!

 

[bluevision]

What bothers me is the amount of meaningless cricket that the players will play before the WC. I have the feeling that they will lose atleast 2+ players from the probable team for the WC, or they play with niggles. Hope they are not other than the MOGPs; wishful thinking.
And there is nothing as such as 'peaking too early' apart from Alyssa Milano!

 

[rhony]

It's an unpredictable game! Let's watch and see what happens!

Yes. Knockouts are unpredictable. However this format rewards the most consistent teams. Indians should safely reach the semi finals as they've been doing for the past few years. They are a tournament team. They have been the most consistent team in reaching the knockouts in this decade.

 

[BaankeJi]

India haven't tsken ODIs seriously. So question of peaking before wc does not arise.

 

[rhony]

Why did India lose the Champions Trophy final to a Pakistani team which no one had given a chance before the tournament and that too by such a huge margin!

One off victories can happen because somebody had a great day that day. That's why knockouts are unpredictable. Pakistan haven't looked even close to winning against India before or after that game. That day was the best case scenario for Pak and worst case scenario for India.

 

[greatest]

BTW, who was fav to win the 1999 WC?

 

[Justcrazy]

These things do not matter. India will be favorites going into WC , no doubt.

 

[Justcrazy]

BTW, who was fav to win the 1999 WC?

Pakistan was one of the favorites.

Pakistan made selection blunder by playing Javed Miandad . Otherwise it was very good team on paper considering the conditions.

Anwar , Sohail , Ijaz, Inzamam , Salim Malik, Latif , Batting All Rounder , Wasim , Waqar , Mushtaq , Attaur rehman.

 

[greatest]

These things do not matter. India will be favorites going into WC , no doubt.

I haven't disagreed on that. Yes, they are the favs!

 

[Sachin136]

Their team was tailor made for flat Aus wickets. Batting had depth.

You're right, I thought the series where they lost against NZ was before the WC (making NZ the favorites in home conditions), but it was actually in 2016.

 

[greatest]

Pakistan was one of the favorites.

Pakistan made selection blunder by playing Javed Miandad . Otherwise it was very good team on paper considering the conditions.

Anwar , Sohail , Ijaz, Inzamam , Salim Malik, Latif , Batting All Rounder , Wasim , Waqar , Mushtaq , Attaur rehman.

Miandad in the 1999 WC?

 

[Nikhil_cric]

BTW, who was fav to win the 1999 WC?

SA, PAK and OZ in that order.

 

[moghul]

They are just playing top level cricket, and very well prepared for the WC.

 

[ftbno1]

The difference is is most of Indian players will have tough outing in IPL. Many of them will have disappointing end as their will be only one winner. Some tough tight games will prepare team in good stead. Their is a chance a part of IPL is played abroad because of general elections. I hope BCCI chooses England or NZ for the venue.

 

[MP2011]

Well they won 4-1 in Pakistan and we're fav to reach the last four. They were a quality side.

Just because they won 4-1 in similar environs doesn't mean they were favorites for WC '07. Any team having the likes of Ponting, Gilly, Hayden and not to forget, McGrath will be run away favorites for any world trophy.

 

[giri26]

Just because they won 4-1 in similar environs doesn't mean they were favorites for WC '07. Any team having the likes of Ponting, Gilly, Hayden and not to forget, McGrath will be run away favorites for any world trophy.

To add to that they had Symonds, Hussey and Watson as well.

 

[MP2011]

To add to that they had Symonds, Hussey and Watson as well.

Yeah, Symonds was a huge player, apart from his built! Its a travesty that he was allowed to go astray by CA, otherwise he'd have been one of game's ATGs.

 

[MP2011]

Speaking of India's chances in that WC, well India were plagued with all sorts of issues prior to WC '07, primary being Tendulkar's batting slot. If your best player isn't sure about his batting position, forget about winning that thing.

 

[happydavy]

They were. Their entire team was in hot form and in home conditions too.

Not just favorites, but were favorites by a mile. I remember the odds before the tournament started.

 

[Haripotter]

It's England and then Pakistan (better record in England) who are favorites to win this world cup 2019. India are like old RSA who win a lot of bilaterals but are not favorites to win the Cup.

 

[saintgrace]

It would be distaster if India crashed out in first round.
There will be end of Dhoni, DK, Rayudu for sure. hehe

But I really want India to win the cup.

 

[jagatk]

It's England and then Pakistan (better record in England) who are favorites to win this world cup 2019. India are like old RSA who win a lot of bilaterals but are not favorites to win the Cup.

Literally everyone except you thinks england and india are the favorites for the world cup.

 

[Pete Rose]

I think peaking is arbitrary term that is placed on a team post event. If they demolish everyone and win the world cup does that mean they didnt peak?
This is the world cup, India is a red hot form team. Nothing about how they are playing indicates they are gonna do a south africa and lose against the west indies or something in their starting line up. India could lose the odd game or two, but it wont be because they peaked too early, it will be because a team played better than them on the day.

 

[JaDed]

I believe in the peaking term, but I remember Dravids words to Nasser " Better to peak early than never peak at all".

 

[JaDed]

Pakistan was one of the favorites.

Pakistan made selection blunder by playing Javed Miandad . Otherwise it was very good team on paper considering the conditions.

Anwar , Sohail , Ijaz, Inzamam , Salim Malik, Latif , Batting All Rounder , Wasim , Waqar , Mushtaq , Attaur rehman.

You are confusing 1996 with 1999 and Wasim was injured for 1996..

For 1999 there were no selection blunders PCT jus didn't show up in the final, Waqar wasn't good enough, it was an ATG PCT team.

 

[Hasan123]

Winning is a good habit. Can’t say that they have peaked but they have issues in the middle order.

 

[jnaveen1980]

Winning is a good habit. Can’t say that they have peaked but they have issues in the middle order.

yup too late to fix. We cannot bank on others not showing up.

 

[Hasan123]

yup too late to fix. We cannot bank on others not showing up.

I don't think Rayadau is the issue. I think playing both Dhoni and Kathrik is the issue.

Also not sure about Jahdav as well.

 

[Justcrazy]

You are confusing 1996 with 1999 and Wasim was injured for 1996..

For 1999 there were no selection blunders PCT jus didn't show up in the final, Waqar wasn't good enough, it was an ATG PCT team.

I am not confused.

In 1990s there were 3 WC , pakistan won one and made final of one. That was probably Pakistan best decade as OD team.

In 96 wasim was injured in QF , but overall , playing Miandad was a blunder. He served no purpose. The team Pakistan should have gone with was

Anwar
Sohail
Ijaz
Inzamam
Malik
Basit Ali
Asif Mujtaba
R laitif
Wasim
Waqar
Mushtaq

 

[jeeteshssaxena]

Bump.
So we failed at the right time.

 

[Thomaskutty]

Now that we got the failures and hiccups out of the way, we should go on and win the WC now !

 

[Braveheart]

The only 'Peak' that India need to worry about is the one on their Caps.
Wear that Army one again and you'll lose again.

 

[prakash]

After Aus/Eng match, Sunil Gavaskar was saying India is peaking at the right time. I think Pak and BD are peaking at the right time. England has declined. Ind/Aus/NZ have peaked already and have started declining. It will be interesting to see if Pak or BD end up in SF. What do you think?

 

[sivanand82]

Australia ,Ban,Pak in that order

 

[Markhor]

This peak at the right time thing is rather exaggerated - the best and most well balanced team usually wins a World Cup, simple. Over a long 6 week tournament, flaws are exposed and only those with consistent performances will prevail.

 

[big_gamer007]

Pakistan

 

[MMHS]

Australia, any surprise in that?

Remember the golden line, which [MENTION=131701]Mamoon[/MENTION] mentioned few times during IND-AUS game - ".... if any team is to win this WC, they'll have to beat Aussies in the KO stages".

 

[hitthestump]

We kindly provided them with the likes of Umar Akmal and Junaid Khan in order to play their entire squad right back into form just before the WC while our main players 'rested'.

Australia probably can't believe how dumb we really are.

 

[PakLFC]

 

[GoUgandaCranes]

After Aus/Eng match, Sunil Gavaskar was saying India is peaking at the right time. I think Pak and BD are peaking at the right time. England has declined. Ind/Aus/NZ have peaked already and have started declining. It will be interesting to see if Pak or BD end up in SF. What do you think?

India might actually lose three matches in the next four and be out of the tourney. You never know

 

[barah_admi]

Aus, NZ and India have looked the best thus far, with England really under performing as a side, while Pak and SL have been up and down. Bang I feel have played to their level.

 

[aqeelPK]

The right time to peak is last three group matches & carry that momentum into knockout matches.

 

[AdamM97]

Australia for sure.

 

[Napa]

India might actually lose three matches in the next four and be out of the tourney. You never know

Pigs will actually fly before that happens. We do know.

 

[jonny darko]

Australia probably can't believe how dumb we really are.

Everybody knows, it's no secret.

 

[Ashraful_Rox]

I just don't want another World Cup won by Aussies, so boring. I hope Kiwis wins it, we need a new team.