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Who can be Pakistan's next captain?

They will make someone captain who is not even in current playing 11.... #PAkistanCricket:moyo2

That will be even worse decision than retaining Sarf as captain or making Babar/Imad captain.
 
PCB being its incompetent self will ask one of the seniors Hafeez or Malik to delay retirement and take up captaincy qaum ke wasee-tar mafaad ke liyay
 
Only player who guarantees a place in XI is Babar. He is in right age bracket for long term captaincy. But I feel he is not captaincy material. He needs to be captaining at domestic level first. Therefore, I think Sarfaraz needs to stay incharge till T20WC.

But whatever happens, PCB needs to stick with Sarfaraz for T20Is. We have a good team in shortest format and they need to stick with same team till T20WC.

My suggestion:
ODIs - Sarfaraz (c), Babar (vc) [till T20WC]
T20Is - Sarfaraz (c), Babar (vc) [till T20WC]
Tests - Haris (c), Babar (vc)

What PCB will do:
ODIs - Imad (c)
T20Is - Imad (c)
Tests - Azhar/Shafiq (c)
 
Grooming the next captain has been a huge problem over the years - it's almost as if the current captain feels threatened of grooming the next person.
 
This is the WC squad:
Fakhar, Babar, Imam, Haris, Hafeez, Malik, Sarfraz, Asif, Imad, Shadab, Hasan, Amir, Wahab, Shaheen and Hasnain.

Too old: Hafeez, Malik, Sarfraz, Wahab

Not good leaders: Haris, Asif, Babar

Not in good form: Hasan, Shadab,

Too young: Shaheen, Imam, Hasnain

That leaves Imad, Fakhar and Amir.

Now some might argue for Babar and Imam.

It's between those 5 because they are the most consistent players and least droppable.

Imam is too young. Add to that he has anger problems and insecurity with how he deals with his nepotistic selection. He merits a spot in the XI but needs to work a lot on his batting strike rate. In fact he can't even play a cover drive. Making him captain will be a mistake and there will be tremendous backlash from fans and media which will add more unnecessary pressure to him. For me he shouldn't be captain

Fakhar is a good option. Decent leader, high character individual, fit and excellent batsman. Only problem with him is he is a bit old and his game relies on his reflexes. So at 34 in the next WC, and will he be good enough to merit a spot in the team? Only time will tell. And his role in the batting is to play freely. Making him captain might affect his game.

Babar is the best batsman in the country. But he is not at his full potential and has temperament issues. To add to that, he needs to add more attacking strokes to his batting. His character is a bit timid and I don't think he is a good communicator from what I've seen. Still an okay option but a huge risk considering he is a potential legend and backbone of the team. I wouldn't make him captain just yet. Let him establish himself a bit more.

Imad is the worst player out of these 5. But his leadership qualities are best. Just on his game, he has been far and ahead Pakistan's best spinner in the last couple of months, even without taking wickets. It's true Pakistan need a specialist spinner, but believe me, there are no quality bowlers to choose from. Imad has experience on his side as well. His batting record is great just needs to improve while chasing. If he is made captain he needs to move up the order and prove himself up the order by batting at 5/6. This will prevent him from being the bits and pieces player he is. To add to that, he needs to lose weight. But he is my first choice as captain.

As for Amir, he just got back to form. Or he just wasn't trying in bilaterals. Which is a problem. His batting has gone downhill in a time where Pakistan needs a fast bowling all-rounder. Fitness also a huge concern. And I wouldn't mind Amir gaining a yard of pace back. This would be a huge risk from PCB due to Amir's history, but a I would not mind it as long as he is mentally strong enough for it.

I will be fuming if Pakistan doesn't pick one of these four.
 
Babar has captained Pak u19 in the 2012 u19 CWC. So he's our best option.
 
The 2 hot favorite candidates are the ones who have failed to step up and deliver in games when needed.

Amir in the last 2 years has had a total of 2 decent games and 1 good game..so 3 good games all in losing causes OVER 2 years and he has shown leadership? HOW? Can someone please explain this to me because I’m losing brain cells reading ya’ll posts.

On to Babar...other than a soft T20 ranking of #1 and a few games we won against West Indies (years ago) he has won the team nothing. No big game and definitely no important game. He was also the batsman who was playing at 3 per over in a high pressure game when the required rate was 8. He is our best batsman no doubt..but that should tell everyone how far behind we are. How in the flying hell can he deliver when he’s got captaincy, our players huge egos to deal with and pressure of big games? Also we were 8 out of 10 or 11 teams when he lead us in the u19 WC.

Would be happy to hear from posters on why these two even make the list of potential candidates?
 
I know he may struggle and after a hard thought we should give it to Imam-ul-Haq for ODIs and Tests.

In T20s, I couldnt care less. Give it to someone like Umar Amin may be.

Need physically fit captains though who also speak well.
 
The 2 hot favorite candidates are the ones who have failed to step up and deliver in games when needed.

Amir in the last 2 years has had a total of 2 decent games and 1 good game..so 3 good games all in losing causes OVER 2 years and he has shown leadership? HOW? Can someone please explain this to me because I’m losing brain cells reading ya’ll posts.

On to Babar...other than a soft T20 ranking of #1 and a few games we won against West Indies (years ago) he has won the team nothing. No big game and definitely no important game. He was also the batsman who was playing at 3 per over in a high pressure game when the required rate was 8. He is our best batsman no doubt..but that should tell everyone how far behind we are. How in the flying hell can he deliver when he’s got captaincy, our players huge egos to deal with and pressure of big games? Also we were 8 out of 10 or 11 teams when he lead us in the u19 WC.

Would be happy to hear from posters on why these two even make the list of potential candidates?

Because we can write novels about how bad the others are. Most don't even deserve a spot in the squad.

This is more about going with the best of the worst.
 
Because we can write novels about how bad the others are. Most don't even deserve a spot in the squad.

This is more about going with the best of the worst.

Same excuse was used when Sarfraz was made captain. How’d that turn out?

The fallacy of fans logic here is that the best player can command respect of the team. This is exactly the logic fans used after Azhar Ali lost us the England series and Sarfraz was the highest run scorer of the tour.
 
Sarfaraz to continue and groom Amir in LOI’s.
Azhar to take over in test and groom Babar or Rizwan or Imam.
 
PCB being its incompetent self will ask one of the seniors Hafeez or Malik to delay retirement and take up captaincy qaum ke wasee-tar mafaad ke liyay

I totally oppose this notion of "asking players to retire.." PCB/Coach/Captain should look for whats best for the team, a player may have served for 10-15 years but does he bring anything for the team now? PCB made a mess big time when they appoint Malik the captain during Aus series and MAlik infested the whole dressing room. Reports are MAlik/Inzi/Imam/Imad/Babar are together and trying to make Imad the captain(who by the way shouldn't be in the team)

Clearly Malik was no way suitable for this WC19 just because of one player they screwed up the whole combination. Hafeez on the other hand at least changed his style of batting and seemed more aggressive in last 1-2 years
 
On what basis some people are saying Babar is not a captain material? Did Smith, Williamson, Kohli, Root, Holder etc looked like captain material until they were given captaincy?
 
The criteria of captaincy is simple. The player should have the following qualities:

- he should be among the top 3 performers in the team and thus make the team on 100% merit

- there should be no question marks over his fitness, and shouldn’t be passing fake Yo-Yo Tests like Sarfraz

- he should be in the right age bracket. Potentially, he should have enough time on his side to lead the team for 6-7 years

- he should be a good communicator, with decent command of both English and Urdu, and will have the sensibility to not make a fool of himself in front of media

I don’t think there is a single player in Pakistan who ticks all the boxes and fulfills all the criteria, but there is only name who ticks more boxes and fulfills more criteria than any other player, and his name is Babar.
 
Split the captaincy between red and white ball formats. It's too much for one person given the pressures and scrutiny you're under.

And for god's sake, make it someone who's a guaranteed starter in the format.

Tests: Babar Azam
LOIs: Fakhar Zaman
 
In the current Pakistan team only Babar is capable to lead this side. He is sure starter in all the formats. He have the experience to contain under 19. Imam ul Haq could have been the perfect player to lead this side but he is very limited as a batsman.
 
Babar is really the most suitable option. Unforunately its a bit premature to throw him in the limelight but when life hands out sour lemons you still got to make lemonad. Most consistent performer. I feel once the senior players get ousted coughmalikcough he won't have as big a problem settling in the role. The last thing Pakistan need is an Imad captaincy especially after all these rumors are coming out.
 
On what basis some people are saying Babar is not a captain material? Did Smith, Williamson, Kohli, Root, Holder etc looked like captain material until they were given captaincy?

All of them had been groomed by their cricket system for quite a while. Williamson had taken over from BMac for a few series 2 or 3 years before taking over the job full time. Smith had been NSW captain for quite a while. Kohli had been captaining RCB and had captaincy experience for a while. Holder had also been captaining at the junior levels but was thrust into the deep end. Root was the only one who hadn't been groomed well and that still shows as he isn't really the best leader out there and seems visibly burdened by captaincy in Tests. Moreover, all of them had good senior pros to rely upon.
 
I would go for Azhar as an interim Test captain for a year or two and Imad or Fakhar as LOI captain. Imad is apparently the only one in the LOI team who has some significant experience as a captain. Azhar can make a reasonable Test captain I think as long as he keeps his form up. He was caught up by insecurity over his own place in the ODI team as well as laid back approach to the tactics which dented his performance as an ODI captain. In Tests he will get enough time to make decisions and won't have to think on his feet all the time.
 
The criteria of captaincy is simple. The player should have the following qualities:

- he should be among the top 3 performers in the team and thus make the team on 100% merit

- there should be no question marks over his fitness, and shouldn’t be passing fake Yo-Yo Tests like Sarfraz

- he should be in the right age bracket. Potentially, he should have enough time on his side to lead the team for 6-7 years

- he should be a good communicator, with decent command of both English and Urdu, and will have the sensibility to not make a fool of himself in front of media

I don’t think there is a single player in Pakistan who ticks all the boxes and fulfills all the criteria, but there is only name who ticks more boxes and fulfills more criteria than any other player, and his name is Babar.

Absolutely correct.However we should keep a separate Test captain maybe Abbas or Haris
 
Next Captain.

Each more ignorant than the other. One of the biggest disadvantage our players have, is their lack of education and knowledge of the history and greats of the game, though sadly, not entirely their fault. Education is commonly sacrificed here, for the pursuit of lesser objectives, in the shortest possible time, leading to the mediocrity, that is clearly visible.
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Babar
Fakhar
Shadab
Amir
 
Performance wise babar azam. But seems to timid at times. We need a performing captain whose authority cannot be undermined. Back in the days we had imran khan and now india has virat kohli. Who is there in pakistab who can perform in pressure situations yet not be bogged down by seniors or bpard members
 
A Du Plessis figure would make a huge difference for us - really like him as a skipper.

Babar for tests, Zaman for LOIs is cool for me and I'd want Amir with them when setting the field for quicks at least.

As has been said many a time before - three format wicket keeper/bat/captain is a mammoth ask that only a select few can do across the board - we're talking Sanga/Dhoni here.
 
Babar makes the team 100% merit, he is fit and young so Babar is a good option for captaincy, we will not loss more than the Sarfraz era.
We are already lossing again half decent size so Babar will be a good option for captioncy, because Imad fitness is not better than Sarfraz
 
Babar Azam...since he is the only certain starter in all 3 formats and the only most likely to still be in the XI after the clean-up that's bound to happen post-WC.
 
The criteria of captaincy is simple. The player should have the following qualities:

- he should be among the top 3 performers in the team and thus make the team on 100% merit

- there should be no question marks over his fitness, and shouldn’t be passing fake Yo-Yo Tests like Sarfraz

- he should be in the right age bracket. Potentially, he should have enough time on his side to lead the team for 6-7 years

- he should be a good communicator, with decent command of both English and Urdu, and will have the sensibility to not make a fool of himself in front of media

I don’t think there is a single player in Pakistan who ticks all the boxes and fulfills all the criteria, but there is only name who ticks more boxes and fulfills more criteria than any other player, and his name is Babar.

Let’s just discount uncertainty and external influence because that doesn’t exist in Pakistan fan utopia land.
 
Babar is too timid. I can't see anyone other than Amir filling that role.
 
Well we can follow the Misbah template and appoint Hafeez as captain, he’s only 38 and still has 6 years to go at least - and also he’s so experienced as we all know and we can use his seniority that everyone respects and his wealth of experience at the international level to groom a new young captain for the future.

Also it means you won’t have to worry about the captain being out of form or failing not being certain of his place, because we all know that Hafeez will always have a guaranteed place in the team for as long as he wants, other factors such as batting average are irrelevant in his case.

My only worry is if he loses his motivation for the game given his illlustrious achievements in that glittering cricketing career and he calls it a day after the World Cup - what a loss that would be for Pakistan cricket, truly irreplaceable player.
 
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Keep Sarfraz until 2020 t20 world cup.
I wanna see how he captains without Mickey as coach. He could be better but could also be worse.
 
Should try 3 co captains. Anyone 1 of them who is in the playing 11 can show up for toss. Combined decision making in field.
 
Same excuse was used when Sarfraz was made captain. How’d that turn out?

The fallacy of fans logic here is that the best player can command respect of the team. This is exactly the logic fans used after Azhar Ali lost us the England series and Sarfraz was the highest run scorer of the tour.

Babar is miles better than Sarfraz was.

Plus, Babar captained PAK U19 to the Asia Cup final and U19 WC quarterfinals (losing to the eventual champions). So, he's not a complete newbie captaincy wise.
 
Babar does seem like a peoples person, Imam is too young for international captaincy and hasn't done enough to warrant a place in the list, it would be a quick career killer for him, It's going to always be between Imad, Fakhar, Ammir or an interim in Hafeez if he decided to keep going in Misbah-esq fashion for the sake of Pakistan cricket.

But knowing Pakistan Cricket, we will have another round of Shoaib Malik, sad thing is apart from a young selectors nephew and a limited overs only bench'er in Imad, there is no one actually being groomed anymore, that's why we had to make do with Sarfaraz, back in the day Butt, Afridi, Hafeez, Younis Khan, Malik and Akthar we all being groomed at the same time as potential future captains and now we just have these two..
 
If they want to have one captain and one vice captain for all the formats, then:

Mohammad Amir Captain
Babar Azam Vice Captain

If they want to have split captaincy, then:

Test: Mohammad Amir Captain
Babar Azam Vice Captain

ODI: Babar Azam Captain
Fakhar Zaman Vice Captain

T20I: Fakhar Zaman Captain
Babar Azam Vice Captain
 
Babar is miles better than Sarfraz was.

Plus, Babar captained PAK U19 to the Asia Cup final and U19 WC quarterfinals (losing to the eventual champions). So, he's not a complete newbie captaincy wise.


post 88. para 2
 
On what basis are people nominating the likes of Hafeez, Fakhar and Imam as captains or vice captains.

People who can’t justify their own selection in the team. We want them to be captains. Looks like we haven’t learned our lessons from the whole specialist captain saga.
 
Babar as Captain ODI cricket seems the most likely case.
On another note, perhaps a bowler can be made captain. for tests atleast, i dont think any batsman has cemented his place in our test team. maybe make Abbas as test captain.
 
Haris Sohail - Ideal captaincy candidate post World Cup

Points in his favour :-

1. Highest batting average of all Pakistani batsmen post Champions Trophy against non minnows.

2. Batting talent is there and he can attack when needed

3. Physical stature of his gives the vibe of a strong leader. It’s the one point where he scores over Bobby. As talented as Bobby is he is too much of a nice kid.

Is he good at speaking English? That I don’t know but in modern cricket you must be good with English. There is no excuse.
 
Sohail sey jyaada enthu toh tum dikha rahey ho. Thoda thanda lo. Abhi toh aaya hai.
 
I can see in Haris Sohail right now what few genius people saw in young Grammy Smith in 2003.

Not to brag but i am a bit of a genius with these things.
 
Babar, Haris and Amir are permanent spots in the team that you cannot drop, they're very vital to our performance.

Don't know if Haris has captaincy skills though. Yes his spot is secure but not sure if he has a high iq.
 
Babar has captained Pak u19 in the 2012 u19 CWC. So he's our best option.

how was the performance back then from him as captain and how did the team respond..

how far the team went in that tournament...


if that is the case then even Imad was an u19 captain too...
 
For now the first tier options are

Imad, Babar, Amir, Fakhar

Second tier options

Imam, Shadab, Haris

Third tier

Sarfraz to continue...
 
Do you have a fantasy of getting shredded into bits by PPers?
 
A player who doesn’t deserve to be in the team should never be the captain. Our current captain is one of those players. We don’t want his replacement to be similar to him.
 
He has just performed in ODIs as of now and he needs to improve his game in that format too.

You dont make captains in such a way unless Imam is Greame Smith (Who atleast scored a double ton in tests before becoming captain)
 
Babar Azam (ODI’s and Test)

Amir (T20)

No other options available.
 
Haris sohail? But he doesnt have any experience of captaining i think.

Knees are dodgy, fitness is poor, age is not on his side, no prior experience as captain, etc.

I would keep him as the one player over 30 in the side since he’s a great leftie, bowler, and slip fielder.
 
Babar Azam (ODI’s and Test)

Amir (T20)

No other options available.

Why use Amir as a stop gap in the T20 format? I'm sure eventually you would want Babar to be captain across formats, anyway.

Plus, if he's already test and ODI captain then how much more pressure would being the T20I captain bring?

At least in that format he can feel confident about his team being the #1 team in the world. I'm sure that confidence would do him more good for the long term than Mohd Amir who is definitely not 28 years old, as he claims to be.
 
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Why use Amir as a stop gap in the T20 format? I'm sure eventually you would want Babar to be captain across formats, anyway.

Plus, if he's already test and ODI captain then how much more pressure would being the T20I captain bring?

At least in that format he can feel confident about his team being the #1 team in the world. I'm sure that confidence would do him more good for the long term than Mohd Amir who is definitely not 28 years old, as he claims to be.

Captaining T20 will affect his judgement in the other formats.

Juggling all three formats is something that even seasoned veterans struggle with let alone a 24 year old.

I would want him to first learn how to distinguish between the two most important formats and then if he wants, handle the responsibility of T20.

T20 is more about restricting scoring than scoring itself which is why I think Amir will make a good candidate.

He has a good bowling brain and will be grateful for the opportunity and not afraid to steer the reins to Babar (who is a younger brother type rather than competition).
 
Misbah speaking to the press today:

"The decision about the captain depends on the cricket board. It depends on whether we want to separate the captaincy if the load is too much on one person, or continue with one captain in all formats. It depends whether we have the suitable personnel for that"
 
I quite like [MENTION=79064]MMHS[/MENTION]’ idea of having Haris as Test and Babar as ODI/T20 captain.

Two guys who make the team on merit and in the perfect age category for their respective jobs.
 
In Tests I'll take anyone over this impatient, non-performing nothing of a player Sarfraz.

But realistically I can see there are not too many candidates who make the playing xi on merit and are captaincy material. Shan and Azhar are two names being spoken of, Shan hasn't justified is his place in the side yet he had an o.k. SA tour and that's about it. If he starts performing and becomes a permanent fixture he can be looked at.

Azhar on the other hand could turn out like Misbah, a poor ODI captain but may be just the man for the Test Job. However, his form in the past year or so has not been the best. He's struggled and looked in decline. Would be a risk to give him captaincy.

Another person people have been saying and he probably is the best captain to make for the Test Format is Asad Shafiq. However we can't do what we did with Sarfraz and make someone captain on the basis of their captaincy skills alone. I haven't even ever seen Asad captain a match, so I'm not sure how good of a captain he really is maybe it's just all bluff and he actually ain't good at that either. Most importantly Asad after a decade of investment still averages below 40 so dude doesn't even deserve to be close to the team let alone captain.

Then we have some youngsters like Babar, Imam, and Haris. Imam is still finding his feet in the longest format however he should come good soon. Can't make him Test Captain yet. Babar has finally started to score some runs in Test so we should just leave him alone and let him become the Greatest Pakistani Batsman of all time. Finally we have Haris he makes the team on merit but I'm not sure if he has any captaincy experience he doesn't seem like a guy to lead the national team.

That leaves us to the bowlers. We don't have a single bowlers who looks like a captain and could lead a team. Abbas, Hasan (who should be dropped anyways but he's been apart of our squad recently) Shaheen, Shadab, Yasir none of these guys can be made captain, like let's just be real. The only bowler who could of was Amir and he retired and plus he only made the team on merit in certain conditions anyways so yeah.

After review of all the players it has dawned on me even more what a BIG LOSS Misbah and Younis have been. To think people were clamoring for these guys to retire lol, well guys we can't even beat the weakest Sri Lankan, and Australian teams in UAE anymore.

So yeah the above options are not ideal but man I'll take anyone over Sarfraz it just disgusts me what he's done to our Test Team combined with Mickey. :facepalm:
 
I quite like [MENTION=79064]MMHS[/MENTION]’ idea of having Haris as Test and Babar as ODI/T20 captain.

Two guys who make the team on merit and in the perfect age category for their respective jobs.

I like Haris too, probably the best candidate we have for Tests at this point. My only concern is he doesn't really seem like a leader, and has he ever captained at the domestic level?
 
For me this is how I'd do it, it's not IDEAL but it's the best options we got in my opinion.

Test's - Captain: Haris Sohail - Vice Captain: Shan Masood / Babar Azam

ODI's - Captain: Babar Azam - Vice Captain: Shadab Khan

T20I's - Captain: Mohammad Amir - Vice Captain: Fakhar Zaman / Shadab Khan

Honestly I'd rather not make Babar Captain but this is the best time to do it with 4 years to the next world cup if he doesn't have a great next 2 years and it starts affecting his batting we will still have time to make a replacement.
 
For me this is how I'd do it, it's not IDEAL but it's the best options we got in my opinion.

Test's - Captain: Haris Sohail - Vice Captain: Shan Masood / Babar Azam

ODI's - Captain: Babar Azam - Vice Captain: Shadab Khan

T20I's - Captain: Mohammad Amir - Vice Captain: Fakhar Zaman / Shadab Khan

Honestly I'd rather not make Babar Captain but this is the best time to do it with 4 years to the next world cup if he doesn't have a great next 2 years and it starts affecting his batting we will still have time to make a replacement.

Simply why wanna do that.. For this i would have sarfraz instead to be retained and give the captaincy to babar after 2023 CWC...

The question is can Sarfraz be the captain till 2023 with his biriyani fitness..
 
For me this is how I'd do it, it's not IDEAL but it's the best options we got in my opinion.

Test's - Captain: Haris Sohail - Vice Captain: Shan Masood / Babar Azam

ODI's - Captain: Babar Azam - Vice Captain: Shadab Khan

T20I's - Captain: Mohammad Amir - Vice Captain: Fakhar Zaman / Shadab Khan

Honestly I'd rather not make Babar Captain but this is the best time to do it with 4 years to the next world cup if he doesn't have a great next 2 years and it starts affecting his batting we will still have time to make a replacement.

Because of senior culture its highly unlikely players like Hafeez, Malik, Sarfraz will play under Babar.
 
It looks to me like.

Chief selector cum assistant coach: MISBAH

Head Coach: Dean Jones

Bowling Coach: Mohd. Akram

Test: Captain: Azhar Ali Vice captain: Babar Azam
LOIs: Captain: Sarfraz Vice captain: Babar Azam



Personally i feel

Chief Selector: MISBAH

Head Coach : Dean Jones
Assistant Coach: Johan Botha

Bowling Coach: Waqar Younis

Spin Bowling and U19 Coach: Saqlain Mushtaq


Test: Captain: Azhar Ali Vice captain: Babar Azam
LOIs: Captain: Sarfraz Vice captain: Babar Azam till 2020 T20 WC
 
Because of senior culture its highly unlikely players like Hafeez, Malik, Sarfraz will play under Babar.

Malik retired from ODI's, Sarfraz is close to being sacked and dropped. And Hafeez Sobers is a smart man he will eventually realize he is no longer needed.
 
Simply why wanna do that.. For this i would have sarfraz instead to be retained and give the captaincy to babar after 2023 CWC...

The question is can Sarfraz be the captain till 2023 with his biriyani fitness..

Have you been in hibernation for the past 2 years?
 
Sarfaraz is not going anywhere - there is no option at the moment.
 
Have you been in hibernation for the past 2 years?
Well ur choices of having three captains in 3 different formats. Name a intl team that his this setup, which no team would wnat to do that. It is not gully mohalla cricket
 
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