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Who is a more mentally tough and resilient cricketer? Babar Azam or Mohammad Rizwan?

Who is a more mentally tough and resilient cricketer?

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Not a high bar but since the comparison is between these two, i have to say Mohammad Rizwan, his body language on the ground, in the field and while batting under pressure is better. He has also played more match winning knocks under pressure in comparison to the hype job Babar Azam.
 
Do I have to remind you of the legside hack of Rizwan vs Bumrah (WT20)?
But Babar takes the cake - one of the if not the most timid cricket player ever, can not even take 1% of pressure on.
 
This is such a funny question that I can't think of an answer. It's like asking which apple between two sour ones is the sweetest
 
topspin said:
Oh my word, what a deluded prat!
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Yeah I mean the Serie A was all about Sheva and Pato….


And not the Legendary AC Milan side lead by Maldina.. or the GOAT Italian defenders…or the world class strikers of Inter….or the class of Del Piero….or the great technician Pirlo…or the Passion of Totti at Roma….The gigantic Juventus sides…


I mean we all stopped watching Serie A because Shevchenko and Pato left it and this will be the same case if Babar and Rizwan leave the PSL :ROFLMAO:
 
Rana said:
Yeah I mean the Serie A was all about Sheva and Pato….


And not the Legendary AC Milan side lead by Maldina.. or the GOAT Italian defenders…or the world class strikers of Inter….or the class of Del Piero….or the great technician Pirlo…or the Passion of Totti at Roma….The gigantic Juventus sides…


I mean we all stopped watching Serie A because Shevchenko and Pato left it and this will be the same case if Babar and Rizwan leave the PSL :ROFLMAO:
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Very well said.

PATOOOO 😂😂😂

His football career was short lived.

There should be a comedy show with all these Babar and Rizwan fans.

Episode 1: Babar can hit 6 x 6s in a super over
Episode 2: Babar vs Imad
Episode 3: Rizwan is GOAT. Time to eat feet
 
topspin said:
Very well said.

PATOOOO 😂😂😂

His football career was short lived.

There should be a comedy show with all these Babar and Rizwan fans.

Episode 1: Babar can hit 6 x 6s in a super over
Episode 2: Babar vs Imad
Episode 3: Rizwan is GOAT. Time to eat feet
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Yes according to @Raja Ishtiaq Rizwan is the GOAT because he scored 76 off 45 against Lahore Qalandars. After the loss to his team, we can enjoy Siri Paye goat feet because those runs were pretty useless!
 
Rizwan is better considering his limited talent (in comparison to Babar). He toiled hard in domestics during Sarfaraz era and became a regular member of the team. For all his faults, he is the best wicket keeper batsman in Pakistan's history.

Babar on the other hand is mentally very weak and still lives under the shadow of his father. Many years ago when Babar was doing well, I posted here about his timidity and how someone like Saud is mentally more resilient. Babar needs to transform his personality and outlook on life.
 
Greenstorm said:
For all his faults, he is the best wicket keeper batsman in Pakistan's history
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Yeah the best wicket keeper Batsman in Pakistan history turned Pakistan into a minnow? How does that work?

You can’t be the best ever if the team you are a regular in is absolute crap! The best keeper batters are the ones who were part of the strongest Pakistan sides and maintained their spots for a long time in those teams.

Now, think about it again.
 
If we compare both on the basis of technique, talent, skills and opportunities. Babar triumphs Rizwan on all these aspects. But, Rizwan being limited on all these parameters, have been more match winner and impactful than Babar Azam. So I would say Rizwan is more impactful than Babar despite limited skills and talent.

While as I say this, this doesn't mean these two are best, both have endless limitations considering modern game, but since the comparison here is between these two, so I would say Rizwan > Babar.
 
Rana said:
Yeah the best wicket keeper Batsman in Pakistan history turned Pakistan into a minnow? How does that work?

You can’t be the best ever if the team you are a regular in is absolute crap! The best keeper batters are the ones who were part of the strongest Pakistan sides and maintained their spots for a long time in those teams.

Now, think about it again.
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Who is better wk batsman than Rizwan according to you ?
 
Rizwan , considering how limited a talent he is.

Bobby is a bit more talented.
 
Rizwan is mentally tougher and more resilient. If we compare the two in terms of ability, Rizwan is a below average batsman, while Babar, despite being massively overrated by some Pakistani fans, is a good batsman. The fact that Rizwan has managed to have the career he did is down to his mental toughness and resilience. Babar is mentally weak and if Rizwan had Babar’s mental toughness, he would have never played international cricket. While if Babar had Rizwan’s mental toughness and resilience, he perhaps could have reached the heights that his Fanclub thought he would.
 
Neither, but Rizwan is slightly better if I have to pick one.
 
Babar's mental block atm is greater than anyone else including riz.

Rizwan is pretty could in playing a release shot to get out of trouble but babar relies on classic approach which is not the way to go in modern day batting.
 
Rizwan obviously. He's older and wiser than Babar and plus has already overcome injustice early in his career when he was being left out for Akmal type keepers. Also let's not forget the religious aspect which keeps him grounded. He knows that there is more to life than cricket.
 
Kianig89 said:
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اس سے قبل پاکستان کے اولمپک جیولن تھرو چیمپئن ارشد ندیم کا انسٹاگرام اکاؤنٹ بھی بھارت میں بلاک کر دیا گیا تھا۔
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So, India stooping this low , Instagram account of RizBar The true Patriots blocked.
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India is making sure anyone from Pakistan does not profit in any shape or form from India. They will likely extend this other individuals and companies and tell them if you want to do business with India, cut off all ties with Pakistan. The ICC funding will likely be next. Ramiz Raja foresaw this.
 
daytrader said:
Rizwan obviously. He's older and wiser than Babar and plus has already overcome injustice early in his career when he was being left out for Akmal type keepers. Also let's not forget the religious aspect which keeps him grounded. He knows that there is more to life than cricket.
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But you’re forgetting that Babar scored 53 off 49 balls. He’s the one doing Misbah proud, not Rizwan!
 
daytrader said:
Rizwan obviously. He's older and wiser than Babar and plus has already overcome injustice early in his career when he was being left out for Akmal type keepers. Also let's not forget the religious aspect which keeps him grounded. He knows that there is more to life than cricket.
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Oh nahi bhai, as much as i have issues with babar, he's mentally tougher and more reliant then rizzu.

His 2019 nz innings proves this, not to mention that despite people hating him for his current form, he actually came through for Pakistan very consistently in 2018 t20 with fakhar and was one of the main reasons why pak was ranked no 1 in t20.

He also helped us get into champions trophy and improve our ICC ranking by bashing WI in their early days.

I understand the hatred towards babar and post 2021, it's justified but he still has a past portfolio.

Rizwan is misbah 2.0 except even uglier as a batsmen and unlike Misbah, rizwan has a habit of acting like a clown.

Misbah is a hypocrite but gives off a dignified vibe, Rizwan doesn't even do that.
 
mominsaigol said:
Oh nahi bhai, as much as i have issues with babar, he's mentally tougher and more reliant then rizzu.

His 2019 nz innings proves this, not to mention that despite people hating him for his current form, he actually came through for Pakistan very consistently in 2018 t20 with fakhar and was one of the main reasons why pak was ranked no 1 in t20.

He also helped us get into champions trophy and improve our ICC ranking by bashing WI in their early days.

I understand the hatred towards babar and post 2021, it's justified but he still has a past portfolio.

Rizwan is misbah 2.0 except even uglier as a batsmen and unlike Misbah, rizwan has a habit of acting like a clown.

Misbah is a hypocrite but gives off a dignified vibe, Rizwan doesn't even do that.
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Babar is among the most timid and mentally weak Pakistani batsman ever. If Babar had started his career under someone like Waqar, he would have been discarded after few failures in middle/lower order. He needs a father figure around him to feel safe and confident. Mickey Arthur played that role during initial part of his career and later Ramiz/Misbah/Saqlain were there. This is why you hardly saw any gritty, match winning knocks from him in important matches even in his peak years. Some performances that you mentioned are inevitable when you are as gifted as Babar and have full support of management in a talentless batting pool.

The fact that Rizwan is even in conversation with Babar is testament to his resilience and mental toughness. He has half the talent that Babar has, doesn't come from a strong background or cricketing center like Babar, hardly educated and yet managed to perform better than most who were dealt with much better cards in life. Even now, despite hatred and criticism, you hardly see any slump in his primary role i.e wicket keeping. He is still the best wicket keeper in Pakistan. Yesterday, I was thinking of replacing Rizwan with Harris in ODIs but Harris's keeping lets him down. Compare this with Babar, who in last match made two school boy errors in the field !
 
Greenstorm said:
Babar is among the most timid and mentally weak Pakistani batsman ever. If Babar had started his career under someone like Waqar, he would have been discarded after few failures in middle/lower order. He needs a father figure around him to feel safe and confident. Mickey Arthur played that role during initial part of his career and later Ramiz/Misbah/Saqlain were there. This is why you hardly saw any gritty, match winning knocks from him in important matches even in his peak years. Some performances that you mentioned are inevitable when you are as gifted as Babar and have full support of management in a talentless batting pool.

The fact that Rizwan is even in conversation with Babar is testament to his resilience and mental toughness. He has half the talent that Babar has, doesn't come from a strong background or cricketing center like Babar, hardly educated and yet managed to perform better than most who were dealt with much better cards in life. Even now, despite hatred and criticism, you hardly see any slump in his primary role i.e wicket keeping. He is still the best wicket keeper in Pakistan. Yesterday, I was thinking of replacing Rizwan with Harris in ODIs but Harris's keeping lets him down. Compare this with Babar, who in last match made two school boy errors in the field !
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Oh bhai, let's not go into supernatural fictional storytelling.

None of yhis changes the fact that Babar genuinely has more match winning knocks and genuinely has a better peak from 2016-2021.

His career slump from 2022 onwards is bad but he was genuinely a solid batsmen prior. The biggest criticism that he use to face pre 2022 was that he didn't have match winning impact and was mostly a minnow basher, which is a fair point.

However i do not mind a minnow basher against strong teams + a solid accumulator vs Weak teams. Babar got us into CT 2017 via his west indies century spam and got us to rank 8, his anchor knock vs SA ensured we got a drs win over them in 2017, similarly while fakhar won us the game was England, Pakistan could have easily collapsed, hence Babar + hafeez's 70+ run partnership was crucial since Pakistan has lost from stupider positions in the past.

Then in 2018 he was a primary reason as to why we were ranked no 1 in t20 since he actually supported and backed fakhar extremely well. Was he an ideal t20 opener? Absolutely not, but he did prove that he can be a good backup and get a 50+ score and bat around the rest of the hitters in t20 overs.

Then in 2019 he has a very solid NZ innings and overall his world cup performance wasn't bad. He was much better then Joe root in that cup.

Infact before 2021, his only crappie knock was that 100 vs Australia however its an aussie attack + the target was 350 so it's not like he had it easy.

The main criticism came in 2020 where Rizwan ruined everything.

Rizwan entering unbalanced the side and turned our t20 team into a joke since you can have one accumulator at the top but no 2 for obvious reasons.

Then by 2022 Babar's form declined as he ended up flunking tournaments upon tournaments.

But let's not discredit Babar's past achievements.

Their are 2 versions of Bobby, 2016-2021, and 2022 - 2025.

While theirs only one version of Rizwan, who is rubbish across any and all eras.
 
mominsaigol said:
Oh bhai, let's not go into supernatural fictional storytelling.

None of yhis changes the fact that Babar genuinely has more match winning knocks and genuinely has a better peak from 2016-2021.

His career slump from 2022 onwards is bad but he was genuinely a solid batsmen prior. The biggest criticism that he use to face pre 2022 was that he didn't have match winning impact and was mostly a minnow basher, which is a fair point.

However i do not mind a minnow basher against strong teams + a solid accumulator vs Weak teams. Babar got us into CT 2017 via his west indies century spam and got us to rank 8, his anchor knock vs SA ensured we got a drs win over them in 2017, similarly while fakhar won us the game was England, Pakistan could have easily collapsed, hence Babar + hafeez's 70+ run partnership was crucial since Pakistan has lost from stupider positions in the past.

Then in 2018 he was a primary reason as to why we were ranked no 1 in t20 since he actually supported and backed fakhar extremely well. Was he an ideal t20 opener? Absolutely not, but he did prove that he can be a good backup and get a 50+ score and bat around the rest of the hitters in t20 overs.

Then in 2019 he has a very solid NZ innings and overall his world cup performance wasn't bad. He was much better then Joe root in that cup.

Infact before 2021, his only crappie knock was that 100 vs Australia however its an aussie attack + the target was 350 so it's not like he had it easy.

The main criticism came in 2020 where Rizwan ruined everything.

Rizwan entering unbalanced the side and turned our t20 team into a joke since you can have one accumulator at the top but no 2 for obvious reasons.

Then by 2022 Babar's form declined as he ended up flunking tournaments upon tournaments.

But let's not discredit Babar's past achievements.

Their are 2 versions of Bobby, 2016-2021, and 2022 - 2025.

While theirs only one version of Rizwan, who is rubbish across any and all eras.
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Yeah Rizwan is culprit for everything

Just great 😂
 
mominsaigol said:
Oh bhai, let's not go into supernatural fictional storytelling.

None of yhis changes the fact that Babar genuinely has more match winning knocks and genuinely has a better peak from 2016-2021.

His career slump from 2022 onwards is bad but he was genuinely a solid batsmen prior. The biggest criticism that he use to face pre 2022 was that he didn't have match winning impact and was mostly a minnow basher, which is a fair point.

However i do not mind a minnow basher against strong teams + a solid accumulator vs Weak teams. Babar got us into CT 2017 via his west indies century spam and got us to rank 8, his anchor knock vs SA ensured we got a drs win over them in 2017, similarly while fakhar won us the game was England, Pakistan could have easily collapsed, hence Babar + hafeez's 70+ run partnership was crucial since Pakistan has lost from stupider positions in the past.

Then in 2018 he was a primary reason as to why we were ranked no 1 in t20 since he actually supported and backed fakhar extremely well. Was he an ideal t20 opener? Absolutely not, but he did prove that he can be a good backup and get a 50+ score and bat around the rest of the hitters in t20 overs.

Then in 2019 he has a very solid NZ innings and overall his world cup performance wasn't bad. He was much better then Joe root in that cup.

Infact before 2021, his only crappie knock was that 100 vs Australia however its an aussie attack + the target was 350 so it's not like he had it easy.

The main criticism came in 2020 where Rizwan ruined everything.

Rizwan entering unbalanced the side and turned our t20 team into a joke since you can have one accumulator at the top but no 2 for obvious reasons.

Then by 2022 Babar's form declined as he ended up flunking tournaments upon tournaments.

But let's not discredit Babar's past achievements.

Their are 2 versions of Bobby, 2016-2021, and 2022 - 2025.

While theirs only one version of Rizwan, who is rubbish across any and all eras.
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You are mixing up two different things. This thread is a comparison of these two in terms of their mental toughness not performances. Kallis was a great player but Ben Stokes is mentally tougher.

There is no doubt that Babar has performed better than Rizwan in ODIs and Tests (as he should have) but even your T20I performance narrative has holes. Rizwan the accumulator in T20Is, performed as well as Babar if not better. He played multiple match winning knocks. I can remember one in NZ and also a few chasing 200+ scores against B, C sides. Their stats are not too different either.

I understand that at that time, there was room for one accumulator but why blame Rizwan for 'ruining everything' when he was doing everything that Babar was doing ? Infact, he was a better option considering he was an accumulator who could keep wickets.
 
mominsaigol said:
Oh nahi bhai, as much as i have issues with babar, he's mentally tougher and more reliant then rizzu.

His 2019 nz innings proves this, not to mention that despite people hating him for his current form, he actually came through for Pakistan very consistently in 2018 t20 with fakhar and was one of the main reasons why pak was ranked no 1 in t20.

He also helped us get into champions trophy and improve our ICC ranking by bashing WI in their early days.

I understand the hatred towards babar and post 2021, it's justified but he still has a past portfolio.

Rizwan is misbah 2.0 except even uglier as a batsmen and unlike Misbah, rizwan has a habit of acting like a clown.

Misbah is a hypocrite but gives off a dignified vibe, Rizwan doesn't even do that.
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Topic is who's mentally more resilient not who's the greater batter.
 
Greenstorm said:
You are mixing up two different things. This thread is a comparison of these two in terms of their mental toughness not performances. Kallis was a great player but Ben Stokes is mentally tougher.

There is no doubt that Babar has performed better than Rizwan in ODIs and Tests (as he should have) but even your T20I performance narrative has holes. Rizwan the accumulator in T20Is, performed as well as Babar if not better. He played multiple match winning knocks. I can remember one in NZ and also a few chasing 200+ scores against B, C sides. Their stats are not too different either.

I understand that at that time, there was room for one accumulator but why blame Rizwan for 'ruining everything' when he was doing everything that Babar was doing ? Infact, he was a better option considering he was an accumulator who could keep wickets.
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daytrader said:
Topic is who's mentally more resilient not who's the greater batter.
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I am not mixing up anything. Your metric for resiliency is flawed.

First let me address the whole Kallis vs Ben Stokes thing, Kallis is one of the best test players of all time, he's literally rescued SA from unbelievable positions and has converted defeats into wins, anyone who believes that Ben stokes is more resilient has lost their marbles.

Stokes has 2 defining moments throughout his career. Beating PK and NZ but both innings came with sheer amounts of luck, NZ and Pak botching it as well. It was a terrific innings, but no one would seriously proclaim a medicore test cricketer and a decent odi cricketer with 2 ATG knocks as more resilient then a test match player who literally has had to bat for days in tough conditons and many times facing difficult crises men situations.

Rizwan isn't more resilient by any means. His best innings are bashing minnow bowling which he does rarely with India 2021 being the only exception.

Sri lanka, south Africa bowling was beyond rubbish so much so that Abdullah himself smacked 111 against them and we all know how crap Abdullah is as a batsmen.

Seriously you're telling me that Rizwan who

A) Scores 16 of 26 in a PP

B) 44 of 43 in PSL where he desperately tried to outdo Saud as the worst psl innings ever

C) his gand in Asia cup 2022 final alongside Chacha

D) His recent game in t20 which was so comically bad, @daytrader had to divert the topic and present a 36 of 18 metric to accommodate

E) as well as his horrible captaincy record where he's botched everything

Is more resilient then Babar Azam who actually once upon a time use to face pressure situations and come out on top?

I'm not a fan of babar, infact from 2022 onwards, he should have been dropped and honestly he's basically Rizwan 2.0 except he's not ugly as a batter.

But from 2016-2021 he played tough innings.

In 2016 he literally had to deal with the pressure of Pakistan not even qualifying for CT. Then in 2017 he had to face 2 tough situations where Pakistan could have been knocked out of CT.

Obviously fakhar did better but babar did well.

Then he had to face a tough situation of keeping Pakistan in the tournament vs NZ. However yes, Sadly that went in vain as India lost to England thereby killing Pakistan's chances.

All these are pressure situations of which rizzu has faced a similar amount yet given us a 16 of 26 tofa.
 
daytrader said:
Not more than Imad Wasim or Asif Ali
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That’s why those guys are at the top of the table? Imad knocked your Bobsy and Rizzu Symonds out of the tournament last year single-handedly. He is certified unlike those two frauds!
 
mominsaigol said:
D) His recent game in t20 which was so comically bad, @daytrader had to divert the topic and present a 36 of 18 metric to accommodate
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It was 30 off 18 against India in New York. Your boy Imad Wasim botched that chase with his legendary innings of 15 from 23 striking at 65
 
Rizwan’s century against SriLanka in WC 23 is as good as Azams knock against Nz in 2019. It was a world record chase in world cup, also unlike Azam who played second fiddle to Haris, Rizwan actually played the main role.

Rizwan has other knocks like chasing 340+ against SA too, Babar hasn’t done well in 300 chases.


If we shift focus to t20 then again Rizwan has played better knocks than Azam in t20 world cups and also in the matches vs Pakistan.

In test cricket too, Rizwan has played good knocks away from home when Pakistan was in peril. Azam has no quality knocks away away from home.
 
Imad will be remembered for choking when he finally had a chance after spitting venom against Rizwan and Babar.

The way Bumrah, Arshdeep manhandled him will be etched in history books.

Now his words have absolutely no meaning, he himself doesn’t know how to play t20.
 
Even though Amir also choked against USA , he still has done enough to be remembered as a Pakistani legend.
 
Rana said:
That’s why those guys are at the top of the table? Imad knocked your Bobsy and Rizzu Symonds out of the tournament last year single-handedly. He is certified unlike those two frauds!
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And he got his fair chance to prove he could do it at the international level. But guess what he botched it again. Once a ttf will always will be a ttf
 
Rana said:
None of this makes sense when you don’t believe Babar and Rizwan as ttf’s
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They're the best active cricketers we have and perform well on their day. Until better players than them come forward, they'll continue to play.

Imad should've retired long ago.
 
daytrader said:
They're the best active cricketers we have and perform well on their day. Until better players than them come forward, they'll continue to play.

Imad should've retired long ago.
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That’s not true at all.

Pakistan’s best active cricketers are Saim Ayub, Fakhar Zaman, Salman Agha, Abrar Ahmed.

The guys who is the most impactful and dangerous are Mohammad Harris.

The guys who will be important are Sahibzada Farhan, Yasir Khan, Saud Shaqeel and Sufyan Muqeem.

The guys who are definitely still better are Mohammad Amir and Imad Wasim.
 
Rizwans knock against SriLanka in world cup 2023 is better than Anything Imad has done in international cricket.

Imad fanboys know this too.
 
Rana said:
That’s not true at all.

Pakistan’s best active cricketers are Saim Ayub, Fakhar Zaman, Salman Agha, Abrar Ahmed.

The guys who is the most impactful and dangerous are Mohammad Harris.

The guys who will be important are Sahibzada Farhan, Yasir Khan, Saud Shaqeel and Sufyan Muqeem.

The guys who are definitely still better are Mohammad Amir and Imad Wasim.
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Saim isn't back in form and still reliant on Babar.

Fakhar Zaman - is doing what he does best is 2nd to Rizwan on the run charts at the moment. Definitely has a place in the team bit for how long?

Salman, Abrar and Haris have all had to sit out of the XIs of their respective PSL teams. If they're not first choice for a PSL side how can you even put them in nationals ahead of RizBar

The last 4 deserve chances no doubt but to say they're better is far fetched
 
Rana said:
No it’s not. Imad Wasim the white ball cricketer>> Rizwan any day.
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In t20s yes, because of his powerplay bowling.

In Odis its not a contest, Imads bowling is ineffective and his batting is absolutely unsuited for the number he bats on. He doesn’t have power hitting abilities.
 
mominsaigol said:
In terms of resiliency

Amir > Imad >>>>>>>>>>>> Babar >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rizwan > Chacha.

^^ Any one who disagrees has no understanding of cricket.
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Yeah we know you and Rana has no understanding of cricket indeed
 
shah9425 said:
Yeah we know you and Rana has no understanding of cricket indeed
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Rather then coming with cheap shots, come up with actual arguments.

Amir has won 2 cups for his country with his bowling in high pressure situations, it's clear he's way ahead of the pack.

As for imad, it'll take a bit longer to explain
 
mominsaigol said:
I am not mixing up anything. Your metric for resiliency is flawed.

First let me address the whole Kallis vs Ben Stokes thing, Kallis is one of the best test players of all time, he's literally rescued SA from unbelievable positions and has converted defeats into wins, anyone who believes that Ben stokes is more resilient has lost their marbles.

Stokes has 2 defining moments throughout his career. Beating PK and NZ but both innings came with sheer amounts of luck, NZ and Pak botching it as well. It was a terrific innings, but no one would seriously proclaim a medicore test cricketer and a decent odi cricketer with 2 ATG knocks as more resilient then a test match player who literally has had to bat for days in tough conditons and many times facing difficult crises men situations.

Rizwan isn't more resilient by any means. His best innings are bashing minnow bowling which he does rarely with India 2021 being the only exception.

Sri lanka, south Africa bowling was beyond rubbish so much so that Abdullah himself smacked 111 against them and we all know how crap Abdullah is as a batsmen.

Seriously you're telling me that Rizwan who

A) Scores 16 of 26 in a PP

B) 44 of 43 in PSL where he desperately tried to outdo Saud as the worst psl innings ever

C) his gand in Asia cup 2022 final alongside Chacha

D) His recent game in t20 which was so comically bad, @daytrader had to divert the topic and present a 36 of 18 metric to accommodate

E) as well as his horrible captaincy record where he's botched everything

Is more resilient then Babar Azam who actually once upon a time use to face pressure situations and come out on top?

I'm not a fan of babar, infact from 2022 onwards, he should have been dropped and honestly he's basically Rizwan 2.0 except he's not ugly as a batter.

But from 2016-2021 he played tough innings.

In 2016 he literally had to deal with the pressure of Pakistan not even qualifying for CT. Then in 2017 he had to face 2 tough situations where Pakistan could have been knocked out of CT.

Obviously fakhar did better but babar did well.

Then he had to face a tough situation of keeping Pakistan in the tournament vs NZ. However yes, Sadly that went in vain as India lost to England thereby killing Pakistan's chances.

All these are pressure situations of which rizzu has faced a similar amount yet given us a 16 of 26 tofa.
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Seems like you and I have different understanding of mental toughness and resilience. Agree to disagree brother.
 
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