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Who is answerable in Pakistan cricket for dropping Sufiyan Muqeem for Champions Trophy 2025?

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Mind boggling stuff really. Saw him first time against India A I believe where he got Abhishek out.
He did will in SA. Why was he even dropped ?
Pakistan management knew there is one match in Dubai against arch rivals and it is difficult to pick a left arm wristspinner.
Two matches in Pakistan itself with spin friendly conditions.
Who is answerable for this debacle ?
 
Asif321 said:
Nope Aqib is a bigger culprit here . He is head of selection .
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Aqib would be happy if the two seamers are Shaheen and Rauf, and the 3rd seamer is Faheem

It’s Rizwan who loves Naseem and doesn’t like Faheem.

Work it out.
 
Junaid Khan was right. Pakistan rarely plays its best XI.

Thank God for PSL that these guys without connections can push through to national team. Otherwise, things would have been even worse. Someone like Wahab Riaz would still be playing intl cricket.
 
hoshiarpurexpress said:
Then good luck to you Pakistan fans because you need it. This kind of team management will suck the life out of Pakistan cricket.
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We are done as a country with this leadership ,cricket is just a minor matter and gives you a good outlook at what’s happening at a larger scale here
 
I mean not having that much talented players is sometimes fine.. It happens you don't get a good bunch. But at least select people on some kind of merit.
 
When Naseem wanted to leave QG,

Rizwan was trying all sorts of d*ck moves to get Naseem into Multan. He wanted to give away his best performing seamers such as Abbas to get Naseem into his franchise. He also told one of his Saya boys to decline a potential trade so that the deal for Naseem to another Franchise can fall through.

Realistically, Pakistan only needed 2 seamers and a 3rd fast bowling all rounder. They have paid for their overhyping of Naseem.
 
Rana said:
When Naseem wanted to leave QG,

Rizwan was trying all sorts of d*ck moves to get Naseem into Multan. He wanted to give away his best performing seamers such as Abbas to get Naseem into his franchise. He also told one of his Saya boys to decline a potential trade so that the deal for Naseem to another Franchise can fall through.

Realistically, Pakistan only needed 2 seamers and a 3rd fast bowling all rounder. They have paid for their overhyping of Naseem.
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I mean sure may be in Lahore play Naseem and in Dubai play Sufian. Its 15 member team use everyone. This Rizwan and Babar drama needs to be put to end. Move on from them completely.
 
Greenstorm said:
Rizwan and Salman can't even select playing XI. They deserve no blame for team selection at all.
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That’s not true at all.

Let’s not make it out as if Rizwan had no say in this selection. Khushdil popping out of nowhere is not Aqib Javed.
 
Rana said:
When Naseem wanted to leave QG,

Rizwan was trying all sorts of d*ck moves to get Naseem into Multan. He wanted to give away his best performing seamers such as Abbas to get Naseem into his franchise. He also told one of his Saya boys to decline a potential trade so that the deal for Naseem to another Franchise can fall through.

Realistically, Pakistan only needed 2 seamers and a 3rd fast bowling all rounder. They have paid for their overhyping of Naseem.
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Naseem vs India in CT: 2/37 8 overs
 
BouncerGuy said:
Aaqib brought back faheem out of nowhere when the whole world knew that we needed a spinner in the team..
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He did the right thing!

What’s the point of wanting 2 spinners in the XI when you don’t have a proper seam bowling all rounder to ensure you have a 3rd seamer?????
 
Rana said:
He did the right thing!

What’s the point of wanting 2 spinners in the XI when you don’t have a proper seam bowling all rounder to ensure you have a 3rd seamer?????
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LOL... India won the event with 4 spinners...
 
BouncerGuy said:
LOL... India won the event with 4 spinners...
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So now Aqib is responsible for not keeping one seamer, one all rounder and not picking Sajid, Noman, Abrar and Sufyan??

What are you trying to argue here?
 
Arafat Minhas,

One of the best upcoming talents in Pakistan.

Solid cricketer. Given away by Rizwan without a single game for MS. What does it tell you about this guy?
 
Rana said:
That’s not true at all.

Let’s not make it out as if Rizwan had no say in this selection. Khushdil popping out of nowhere is not Aqib Javed.
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You are wrong.

Tribune

Even if I agree with your theory, Khushdil was highest scorer for Pakistan in CT.
 
Rana said:
He did the right thing!

What’s the point of wanting 2 spinners in the XI when you don’t have a proper seam bowling all rounder to ensure you have a 3rd seamer?????
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Allrounder and Rana Fahim ? :faheem

Naseem Shah has better batting avg than him.
 
Has any one ever took responsibility for a loss in sub continent. Especially in chaotic place of pak cricket, every mistake will be steep downfall after that ct humiliation. Let alone captain, even aqib saab never took the blame of any proportion for the past 6 months drama
 
CT#25 Pakistan squad was the biggest scam, it felt like selectors deliberately selected worst group of 15 to miserably lose the tournament at home. There was no sense in selecting 4 pacers, in any case the team management never trust Hasnain then why was he selected and other 3 were useless. Since when Khushdil & Agha became proper spinner, they did great injustice with Sufiyan who must have played with Abrar. Same blunder was done in WC#23 in which 3 pacers were played and there was no proper spinner. Abrar was in reserves due to injury
 
Rana said:
No, thanks to Rizwan.

Stop protecting him.
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2 spinners mean Haris sits out since Naseem bowls new ball and we know how much he loves Rauf. There are reports Rauf has been added to odi squad due to his performances which means poor Wasim Jr sits on the bench now if Shaheen had performed even Aakif would have not played a game in Odis . This Aqib is the baggest cancer to our cricket
 
Aqib has so far proven to be a clown. The West Indies Test series even a local taxi driver could had made the decision to have spinning wickets and bowl two most experienced spin bowlers, and kudos to those they delivered well. Aqib from bringing back all TTFs in CT Trophy for safety first approach now selected a team full of hacks in name of intent for the NZ T20 series.
 
Xoib said:
2 spinners mean Haris sits out since Naseem bowls new ball and we know how much he loves Rauf. There are reports Rauf has been added to odi squad due to his performances which means poor Wasim Jr sits on the bench now if Shaheen had performed even Aakif would have not played a game in Odis . This Aqib is the baggest cancer to our cricket
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That’s fair

This is a proper post. But did Rizwan want to drop one of the 3 seamers?
 
PakPremi said:
Aqib has so far proven to be a clown. The West Indies Test series even a local taxi driver could had made the decision to have spinning wickets and bowl two most experienced spin bowlers, and kudos to those they delivered well. Aqib from bringing back all TTFs in CT Trophy for safety first approach now selected a team full of hacks in name of intent for the NZ T20 series.
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And now Rauf is back in odi squad which means Wasim Jr stays on the bench
 
Xoib said:
2 spinners mean Haris sits out since Naseem bowls new ball and we know how much he loves Rauf. There are reports Rauf has been added to odi squad due to his performances which means poor Wasim Jr sits on the bench now if Shaheen had performed even Aakif would have not played a game in Odis . This Aqib is the baggest cancer to our cricket
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Bowlers like Wasim Jnr, Hasnain or Akif will never get fair chances until this mafia of Shaheen, Naseem and Rauf is there
 
Rana said:
Oh yaar bongiya na maar!

Be realistic. Ok so then a proper team composition means Naseem bats at 6 or 7?
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No. In Dubai, we should have gone with this:

7. Arafat
8. Naseem
9. Shaheen
10. Abrar
11. Sufyan

In Karachi vs NZ:

3 seamers + Sufyan/Abrar + part timers

Arafat or even Nawaz would have solved our problems.
 
Rana said:
That’s fair

This is a proper post. But did Rizwan want to drop one of the 3 seamers?
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Yeah I am not washing Rizwan off his sins he was in this but AJ was the mastermind as his intention is always protect Shaheen and Rauf
 
Major said:
Aqib javed, and the selector who thought Fahim Ashraf will come in handy
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It was the right decision. Who should he have brought in if you wanted to play 2 spinners? Irfan Niazi??
 
It is selector's job to select the squad. If they are fooled by a the captain then they should either resign or fight it out. Blaming the captain entirely here is just plain stupidity.
 
IAJ said:
It is selector's job to select the squad. If they are fooled by a the captain then they should either resign or fight it out. Blaming the captain entirely here is just plain stupidity.
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What did the captain say??? “We are here to stay, it’s the selectors and management that will lose their jobs”

Why should they always have to job to these primadonas??? Because they are Imran Khan’s golden boys???
 
Rana said:
So now Aqib is responsible for not keeping one seamer, one all rounder and not picking Sajid, Noman, Abrar and Sufyan??

Yes him and selection committee. They took all powers of selection away from Rizwan and explicitly stated that they will select playing XI as well. This practice is still in effect I believe.
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Xoib said:
And now Rauf is back in odi squad which means Wasim Jr stays on the bench
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Not necessarily Haris will not play all ODIs I am sure, but he should had been rested so others had full opportunities. I hope they also rested Abrar and selected Sufyan as the poor guy has missed out on lot while still in form and Abra has played a lot and has been below average.
 
Rana said:
What did the captain say??? “We are here to stay, it’s the selectors and management that will lose their jobs”

Why should they always have to job to these primadonas??? Because they are Imran Khan’s golden boys???
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Thats your real issue :afridi .

Is that why you support inclusion of rana fahim N leagia ?
 
Greenstorm said:
No. In Dubai, we should have gone with this:

7. Arafat
8. Naseem
9. Shaheen
10. Abrar
11. Sufyan

In Karachi vs NZ:

3 seamers + Sufyan/Abrar + part timers

Arafat or even Nawaz would have solved our problems.
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In hindsight you are correct. I don’t disagree,

But this is Pakistan cricket, and the fans are not patient. Some of us were saying Pakistan should pick a young talent like Maaz Sadaqat and give him a free licence considering Saim is out. Who listens? Who wants to see young guns express themselves? Who wants to give potential a chance? You’ve seen the reactions in the T20 squad of NZ.

How do you expect anyone to let Arafat grow in a big tournament?

Pakistan paid its price for the decisions they have been doing for years. It’s a fair price. We have to suck it up.
 
If Rizwan was behind Sufyan non selection in CT then who was behind his non selection for first 4 T20s and then only bowling right at the end when all pacers been whopped and match was all but over.
 
Rana said:
What did the captain say??? “We are here to stay, it’s the selectors and management that will lose their jobs”

Why should they always have to job to these primadonas??? Because they are Imran Khan’s golden boys???
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Again, you should first take off your hatred-glasses and then discuss the topic. Selectors job is to select the squad. And if a player or captain is working out of his mandate, then it's PCB job to take care of them. If the board can not take on the player, then I have to say well done to the player, what a power he has got. These are simple things everyone understand. If everyone did their job, there would have not been any issues here.
 
can someone explain to me why he bowled just 2 overs today? should have been brought in much much earlier
 
PakPremi said:
If Rizwan was behind Sufyan non selection in CT then who was behind his non selection for first 4 T20s and then only bowling right at the end when all pacers been whopped and match was all but over.
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Exactly.

There seems to be some dislike for Sufiyan that they did not even play him in this series
 
Not having him or another specialist spinner in the squad was a massive blunder from day one.

Senseless stuff.

Looks like it's a coaching issue where the coach prefers a single specialist spinner (Abrar) + all-rounders to cover spin overs regardless of the conditions.
 
Greenstorm said:
They are playing in this next series. There goes your theory.
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Hahaha, i am aware of that. The fact is entire fast bowling unit has been destroyed by fake superstars like Shaheen, Naseem & Haris in last 7-8 years. Finally other guys will get their chance
 
IAJ said:
Again, you should first take off your hatred-glasses and then discuss the topic. Selectors job is to select the squad. And if a player or captain is working out of his mandate, then it's PCB job to take care of them. If the board can not take on the player, then I have to say well done to the player, what a power he has got. These are simple things everyone understand. If everyone did their job, there would have not been any issues here.
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It’s not as simple as you think it is!!

These players, specifically lead by Rizwan Saya group have made extreme in roads into the management structure! They managed to negotiate 3 year central contract deals under Sethi and Co.! They have blackmailed the PCB into ICC revenue cuts! They have iron clad contracts with some of the PCB big wigs also taking cuts from their income through sponsorship and franchise cricket NOCs! Nothing is as simple as you are making it out!

How did Babar and Rizwan continue with Pakistan after the 2024 T20 World Cup???? How was Rizwan given captaincy of the T20 side after that????
 
Rana said:
It’s not as simple as you think it is!!

These players, specifically lead by Rizwan Saya group have made extreme in roads into the management structure! They managed to negotiate 3 year central contract deals under Sethi and Co.! They have blackmailed the PCB into ICC revenue cuts! They have iron clad contracts with some of the PCB big wigs also taking cuts from their income through sponsorship and franchise cricket NOCs! Nothing is as simple as you are making it out!

How did Babar and Rizwan continue with Pakistan after the 2024 T20 World Cup???? How was Rizwan given captaincy of the T20 side after that????
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Ya Allah, sabr dayin.

Again, let's assume all you have written is true, whose fault is that? Who has the authority to stop all this? You should start there. Very easy, don't complicate it.
 
kingusama92 said:
Not having him or another specialist spinner in the squad was a massive blunder from day one.

Senseless stuff.

Looks like it's a coaching issue where the coach prefers a single specialist spinner (Abrar) + all-rounders to cover spin overs regardless of the conditions.
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It was a cowardly approach in the name of balance so they could strengthen the batting with fake all rounders like Faheem and Khushdil, rather than attacking with good bowlers like Sufyan.
 
IAJ said:
Ya Allah, sabr dayin.

Again, let's assume all you have written is true, whose fault is that? Who has the authority to stop all this? You should start there. Very easy, don't complicate it.
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Ok let’s stop it there.

Let’s get rid of Rizwan because of all of the issues he is causing directly and indirectly to Pakistan cricket.

What’s going to be the reaction of the Pakistan public?
 
Lol, employees have blackmailed their employer. Employer does nothing and employees are attacked.
 
IAJ said:
Ya Allah, sabr dayin.

Again, let's assume all you have written is true, whose fault is that? Who has the authority to stop all this? You should start there. Very easy, don't complicate it.
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Bhai logic is lost on him.

He will bash Rizwan where ever he gets the chancez but will defend Aqib and his favourites whose job was to select.
 
Rana said:
Ok let’s stop it there.

Let’s get rid of Rizwan because of all of the issues he is causing directly and indirectly to Pakistan cricket.

What’s going to be the reaction of the Pakistan public?
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Yes, Rizwan caused a 4 - 1 loss to Nz :facepalm:
 
IAJ said:
Lol, employees have blackmailed their employer. Employer does nothing and employees are attacked.
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That’s what happened

Why are you trying to make it sound like this isn’t what happened? Have you been living under a rock?
 
IAJ said:
Ya Allah, sabr dayin.

Again, let's assume all you have written is true, whose fault is that? Who has the authority to stop all this? You should start there. Very easy, don't complicate it.
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No doubt both Mohsin Naqvi and Aqib could put end to all this if it's true but they keep bringing the same players again.
 
Rana said:
Ok let’s stop it there.

Let’s get rid of Rizwan because of all of the issues he is causing directly and indirectly to Pakistan cricket.

What’s going to be the reaction of the Pakistan public?
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Well, you have to face the reactions and deal with it. PCB should hold a press conference and tell the World what the players have been doing.

Btw, Rizwan was dropped from the current T20 squad. What reactions have been of the Pakistan public?
 
PakPremi said:
No doubt both Mohsin Naqvi and Aqib could put end to all this if it's true but they keep bringing the same players again.
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Exactly, then you blame the board and the management. They don't have the courage obviously.
 
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