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Who should lead Pakistan in the 2017 Champions Trophy?

Who should lead Pakistan in the Champions Trophy?

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Champions trophy is on its way in the month of June, Who would you like to lead Pakistan?

1) Azhar Ali, he's fine

2) Imad Waseem, need to try some young talent

3) Shoaib Malik, He's got the leading skills

4) M. Hafeez, he is a captain material

5) Sarfraz Ahmed, way to look for the future
 
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It should be obvious choice and that is sarfraz but pcb will presist with azhar ali
 
Imad wasim is yet to cement his place in the side , I would have given malik a go but he is not interested. Azhar and hafeez should not even be part of odi squad but we will be stuck with them forever.
 
saeed5646 said:
Just curious have you watch sarfraz captaincy ?As a neutral what are your judgement about his captaincy
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He isn't as smart as Hafeez but atleast when its a KO game I would back him to captain the team than Hafeez.From the captaincy its not the same to captain T20 and ODI one has lot of time to comeback in ODI compared to T20s.
 
JaDed said:
He isn't as smart as Hafeez but atleast when its a KO game I would back him to captain the team than Hafeez.From the captaincy its not the same to captain T20 and ODI one has lot of time to comeback in ODI compared to T20s.
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Yup you are right

I think strong outing in psl will push his case for odi captaincy
 
super hitter said:
Champions trophy is on its way in the month of June, Who would you like to lead Pakistan?

1) Azhar Ali, he's fine

2) Imad Waseem, need to try some young talent

3) Shoaib Malik, He's got the leading skills

4) M. Hafeez, he is a captain material

5) Sarfraz Ahmed, way to look for the future

mods, add a poll, [MENTION=133760]Abdullah719[/MENTION]
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1) He is not fine, a very poor captain. Too defensive in his approach.

2) He might be a future captain, but I am not convinced yet. His batting is still poor, if he is playing as an all rounder, he is not playing to expectations. His bowling is good though.

3) He said himself he does not want to be captain. He can't handle the pressure. He even stepped down as his PSL team's captain, if he couldn't handle the pressure of captaincy of a t20 domestic tournament, he would crumble as the international team captain.

4) Potential choice.

5) Obvious choice. Especially if he does well as captain in this years PSL again. He is established in all 3 formats, is all ready t20 captain.
 
JaDed said:
He isn't as smart as Hafeez but atleast when its a KO game I would back him to captain the team than Hafeez.From the captaincy its not the same to captain T20 and ODI one has lot of time to comeback in ODI compared to T20s.
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t-20 is too much based on individual performances, if 3 players bat well and 2 bowlers bowl well, you've got the game.

However, SARFRAZ is the best man up there but but but

we want to win the champions trophy, will he make us win it?
 
super hitter said:
Champions trophy is on its way in the month of June, Who would you like to lead Pakistan?

1) Azhar Ali, he's fine

2) Imad Waseem, need to try some young talent

3) Shoaib Malik, He's got the leading skills

4) M. Hafeez, he is a captain material

5) Sarfraz Ahmed, way to look for the future

mods, add a poll, [MENTION=133760]Abdullah719[/MENTION]
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6. Babar if not 5. Sarfraz
 
Sarfraz or Hafeez. Azhar must be sacked now surely. Probably Sarfraz as Hafeez is not getting any younger
 
Sarfraz Ahmed. I can bet if we make him the captain, our team will significantly improve. In cricket captain plays a crucial role in shaping mindset of the players, atleast they'll fight it out and not give up like timid cats under pressure. Please no hafeez and azhar in the team. No player above 35 should be recycled back into the team.
 
Should be Sarfraz. Hafeez is too old, doubtful for the next world cup, just comeback to the side and place isn't secure. Azhar shouldn't have been given captaincy in ODIs either when he hadn't secured his place, was a gamble thinking he'd suddenly start performing in ODIs and learn captaincy at the same time.

Guys like Hafeez, Malik can always help out the captain on field, they don't need to be captain themselves.
 
Speedster777 said:
Are you serious? You want a guy who can't take a single wicket without chucking and who's going to masquerade as an opener only to fail a millionth time.
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I am talking about leadership qualities. And team management or even Hafeez himself has not realised that his ideal batting position is 5/6
 
I vote once more - Amir. Only half decent world class player in the side who is automatic choice & has the balls to lead the attack.

Yesterday's fielding display was just a trailer clip - fielding starts from your Captain & WK, if both comes in one package, sorry slack - 320 minutes movie will be unbearable - don't curse me later.
 
the problem with pak is if a player was ever made as captain he will always hold a grudge against the captain and be like a vulture to pounce on the position anytime..
 
Lynx said:
The guy who was convicted of fixing? Sigh. No wonder we don't evolve as a nation. :facepalm:
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Lets evolve into a loser nation and pick nice guy Azhar Ali so we can lose with grace. I don't care anymore what people think, I want to win.
 
Hawkeye said:
Should be Amir.

Sarfraz isn't ideal for LOIs.
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Yeah finally you are realizing it. Just a while ago you were bashing me for saying this about Sarfraz. I agree with you, [MENTION=79064]MMHS[/MENTION] and [MENTION=138894]Flat_Track_Bully[/MENTION] about Amir. There's no one else. Babar should be VC
 
aliasad1998 said:
Yeah finally you are realizing it. Just a while ago you were bashing me for saying this about Sarfraz. I agree with you, [MENTION=79064]MMHS[/MENTION] and [MENTION=138894]Flat_Track_Bully[/MENTION] about Amir. There's no one else. Babar should be VC
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We need a bowling captain because our batters are mostly mental midgets who lose form after 5 matches. At least with Amir he has intensity and youth and some semblance of consistency. Also he can shuffle batting order with impunity because he won't be consumed in looking after his own spot in the team and play at 70 SR.
 
Flat_Track_Bully said:
We need a bowling captain because our batters are mostly mental midgets who lose form after 5 matches. At least with Amir he has intensity and youth and some semblance of consistency. Also he can shuffle batting order with impunity because he won't be consumed in looking after his own spot in the team and play at 70 SR.
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What is Amir's captaincy experience?

Azhar never captained any side before being made international captain (:facepalm:) and we are seeing the fruits of that decision. Amir won't be too far off from Azhar.

Give it to someone who has experience of actually leading the side.
 
Should be Sarfraz he's captained well in T20I's and the PSL, would be a good choice imo.
 
aliasad1998 said:
Yeah finally you are realizing it. Just a while ago you were bashing me for saying this about Sarfraz. I agree with you, [MENTION=79064]MMHS[/MENTION] and [MENTION=138894]Flat_Track_Bully[/MENTION] about Amir. There's no one else. Babar should be VC
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Yes.

I thought he could do decent considering our brittle lineup. But he has regressed further. And cannot be played in an already one dimensional lineup (he's better than the current accumulators though).

We need a complete change in ideology.
 
It's a struggling side - keep your Captain out of batting pressure. People like Tendulkar threw it after burning (unless he was ST, he would have been sacked & might have got dropped even).

There is not much strategy involved in batting once you are in middle; but not true in terms of bowling - every ball is a new strategy. Amir can give full concentration in bowling & work out with Micky & his bowlers to get 10 wickets - batsmen can do their individual plan with Mickey.
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It doesn't work that way. Years of experience is absolutely nothing to lead a side. I have given many examples of Captains without experience- now doing opposite -

Azhar was made Captain without past experience, but yesterday was Azhar's 21st months as PAK Captain - in a period he has led the side probably 35+ matches including a horror show in Test & he has travelled every Cricket zone bar Caribbean & he has a fantastic coach to guide him ...... then this.

It's about personality job fit - Amir fits the bill. How much he'll be successful if appointed, depends how much PCB protects him from hounds.


Apart from Sarfu (which I explained why not), before 29 months of a WC, those other names in that list are disgusting enough to make one feel sick......
 
MMHS said:
It's a struggling side - keep your Captain out of batting pressure. People like Tendulkar threw it after burning (unless he was ST, he would have been sacked & might have got dropped even).

There is not much strategy involved in batting once you are in middle; but not true in terms of bowling - every ball is a new strategy. Amir can give full concentration in bowling & work out with Micky & his bowlers to get 10 wickets - batsmen can do their individual plan with Mickey.

[MENTION=138254]Syed1[/MENTION]

It doesn't work that way. Years of experience is absolutely nothing to lead a side. I have given many examples of Captains without experience- now doing opposite -

Azhar was made Captain without past experience, but yesterday was Azhar's 21st months as PAK Captain - in a period he has led the side probably 35+ matches including a horror show in Test & he has travelled every Cricket zone bar Caribbean & he has a fantastic coach to guide him ...... then this.

It's about personality job fit - Amir fits the bill. How much he'll be successful if appointed, depends how much PCB protects him from hounds.


Apart from Sarfu (which I explained why not), before 29 months of a WC, those other names in that list are disgusting enough to make one feel sick......
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I don't think PCB is that bold that they would make Amir captain.

What I'm expecting is PCB would announce that Champion's Trophy is just round the corner and cannot pressurize new captain hence Azhar will continue. We will travel to Caribbean and do well there because they are the only team who are worse than us and then PCB will say see Azhar's captaincy is improving and we will be completely annihilated at CT and drop out of another world tournament due to selfish and inept captaincy.

If they do fire Azhar then 95% chance that Sarfaraz will be the captain, if not then Hafeez or Imad. I don't think PCB 'thinks' that Amir is even captaincy material.
 
CT 2013 will be a natural conclusion of Azhar captaincy
 
Sarfraz is a proven leader, automatic pick in the side, and young enough that you actually build for the future with him

Malik and Hafeez don't offer all that, Azhar is a non-starter at this point
 
Sarfaraz's mother's ill-health may have gone in his favour. I mean that in the most respectful way possible. Indeed a mother's ailment is the most trying period for any person, however, if his mother had not fallen sick then Sarfaraz would have still been playing in Australia and considering how his form had been he would not have done such a good job with bat and gloves.

This would have resulted in calls for him to be the next captain to quieten down and some other name may have been thrown in the mix.


Sarfaraz going back to Pakistan worked in his favour and his stocks have risen several fold.
 
aliasad1998 said:
Yeah finally you are realizing it. Just a while ago you were bashing me for saying this about Sarfraz. I agree with you, [MENTION=79064]MMHS[/MENTION] and [MENTION=138894]Flat_Track_Bully[/MENTION] about Amir. There's no one else. Babar should be VC
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Yup. Sarfraz can't hit a six even if his life was on the line. Agreed. Amir as captain and Azam as vice captain.
 
Azhar Ali is too fast for ODIs. He needs to grow a brain and slow down his strike rate. Hafeez is too young. Malik is too young. Sarfraz will get the whole team jealous of his great physique.
 
I think, more or less it was September; 3rd ODI at Nottingham - I saw what I needed to see. Since then, I was the first & probably for first 3 months only one bragging on appointing Amir as Captain - definitely for ODI; may be deputy under YK (if Misbah leaves).

Today, I can see few more support in that list - I can categorically say, after couple of series under Sarfu, looking at him & his team; this list will be almost unanimous; which I don't wish for the good kid. He is honest trier, pure at heart, commited & don't carry mental baggage - Sarfu deserves better. Squire peg in round hole doesn't mean Azhar as ODI Captain only.
 
Amir.

How about Pride of Performance Award as well for Amir?

While we are at it, Amir should also be in reckoning for Sitara e Basalat and Tamgha e Basalat for his meritorious services both on and off the cricket field.

In 2024 Olympics Amir should represent Pakistan by carrying the Olympic torch and flag for Pakistan.

Finally as Amir retires by 2030 Amir should be given 20 cannon fire for making Pakistan visible on the map again.
 
Flat_Track_Bully said:
Lets evolve into a loser nation and pick nice guy Azhar Ali so we can lose with grace. I don't care anymore what people think, I want to win.
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Also the fact he has NO captaincy experience to speak of in the first place? Let's repeat the same mistake we made while appointing Azhar as the captain. Just because he's a good bowler, doesn't mean he has the requisite skill set for captaincy, which requires different qualities altogether.
 
I have supported Azhar throughout..I really thought he could bring something to the team but my first choice was always sarfaraz. He is a world cup winner and has captained from junior level..ideal choice and one for 2019..plus we need someone who is vocal..
 
On merit it has to be Sarfraz. His a fighter, he has captaincy experience, and most importantly he's performing.
 
imad is yet to cement his place azhar has been a failure , only one of malik/hafeez should stay in them and no need of appointing 35 + years old captains . so sarfaraz is the best choice available
 
many of you have mistaken the title for 'the future captain of Pakistan,' whereas, I'm talking about someone who can win us the Champions trophy for the 1st time...

Sarfraz still is a good option but we really need to know a lot about him, just performing in a few one sided
t-20 matches don't make you a good captain.
 
Imad wasim, lets make a bold move and blood a new young captain who is actually worth his place in side on merit.
 
Dr_Bassim said:
Amir.

How about Pride of Performance Award as well for Amir?

While we are at it, Amir should also be in reckoning for Sitara e Basalat and Tamgha e Basalat for his meritorious services both on and off the cricket field.

In 2024 Olympics Amir should represent Pakistan by carrying the Olympic torch and flag for Pakistan.

Finally as Amir retires by 2030 Amir should be given 20 cannon fire for making Pakistan visible on the map again.
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Amir may or may not deserve all that accolade by the time he retires, but one thing is for sure he has already done more for Pakistan than you ever would.
 
Amjid Javed said:
Imad wasim, lets make a bold move and blood a new young captain who is actually worth his place in side on merit.
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Sir Imad is almost 30. He is not young by any stretch of the imagination.
 
Syed1 said:
Sir Imad is almost 30. He is not young by any stretch of the imagination.
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exactly! I was surprised when a few weeks ago someone reminded me on some other thread that most of our youngsters are already 30.

So at the end of the day, we want someone who can lead us to a win with his captaincy skills.
 
super hitter said:
many of you have mistaken the title for 'the future captain of Pakistan,' whereas, I'm talking about someone who can win us the Champions trophy for the 1st time...

Sarfraz still is a good option but we really need to know a lot about him, just performing in a few one sided
t-20 matches don't make you a good captain.
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correction: he squeezed the opposition and it made the match one-sided
 
ask_analyse_act said:
correction: he squeezed the opposition and it made the match one-sided
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with his captaincy skills??? don't think so he was setting up the field at each different instance to stop boundaries and take wickets. It all went well for him.

But I still do support him as a captain, has done enough to earn the spot, the only and only man in the XI to score consistently.
 
Syed1 said:
Amir may or may not deserve all that accolade by the time he retires, but one thing is for sure he has already done more for Pakistan than you ever would.
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Of course he has.

I hope I never get to perform for my country and then take a payoff.
 
Amjid Javed said:
Imad wasim, lets make a bold move and blood a new young captain who is actually worth his place in side on merit.
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Our board wont back him just like they didnt back shoaib malik after inzi..... sarfaraz is the only choice and he deserves it. best bat in LOI over the past 3 years and a natural and experienced leader. did no one see last year's PSL where he took the cheapest team QG so deep in the tournament and the way KP praised his captaincy??!!
 
its time for some new blood, 2017 CT Should be used as preparation for WC 2019, give a chance to Imad Wasim he might prove to be something great if given the chance.
 
super hitter said:
with his captaincy skills??? don't think so he was setting up the field at each different instance to stop boundaries and take wickets. It all went well for him.

But I still do support him as a captain, has done enough to earn the spot, the only and only man in the XI to score consistently.
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yes he set up the field and it went well for him, should also note that he made sure all batsman doesnt settle for one bowler to attack... He was attacking them constantly, his captaincy is very different from azhar and i also hope it will be better than hafeez too when given in the ODIs...
 
Won't matter much, Azhar and Hafeez shouldn't be in the squad actually but I'm pretty sure Azhar will be retained as the captain... Unless PCB tries to bring in the experience of Misbah for an important tournament like this one... They may bring him in as a player anyways.

Expecting YK also to make a comeback in the ODI team

Ideally should be Sarfraz.
 
sam_ahm said:
Won't matter much, Azhar and Hafeez shouldn't be in the squad actually but I'm pretty sure Azhar will be retained as the captain... Unless PCB tries to bring in the experience of Misbah for an important tournament like this one... They may bring him in as a player anyways.

Expecting YK also to make a comeback in the ODI team

Ideally should be Sarfraz.
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Misbah and YK? No ways. Not even PCB can....
 
Sarfaraz - averaging 60 at SR 93 in ODIs since the England tour. (scored 2 and out vs Ireland in this passage too)

Best player for the number 5 position. Won't get bogged down by spin like Malik and Hafeez did the other day as he will employ the sweep to make the opposition feel they are always a boundary rider short.
(Malik and Hafeez were tied down too easily by Zampa, who had a standard field of deep cover, long on, long off, deep midwicket. If one of them could have swept the square leg or fine leg goes back and somebody else comes up)

Sarfaraz would have the best of the dot ball percentage from 15-40 overs.

He has experience and there is nobody challenging him for a place in the ODI team, so he makes the team on merit unanimously(unlike other potentital candidates)
 
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