Are you sure? I asked a question to your fellow Indian Poster [MENTION=132062]Harsh Thakor[/MENTION], still waiting for the answer, I asked the same post to @Sensible Indian Fan, or [MENTION=50394]IndianWillow[/MENTION] can answer you how they trashed it.
Forget about them, check the following link & try if you can trash those -
http://www.pakpassion.net/ppforum/s...st-underrated-batsman-ever&highlight=Gavasker
http://www.pakpassion.net/ppforum/s...eatest-Asian-Cricketer-of-all-time&highlight=
I am asking it - give a try, if you have it, or don't bother to troll around my post; rather try to focus on "Which WI & AUS" part - it 'll help you & it won't cost my valuable time to put you in your place.
In 1974 WI came with only a pair of fast bowler - Roberts & Jullien (?) - Gavasker went AOWL
Lot of lies in your posts.
In 1974 WI came with Roberts Holder Julien and Gibbs.Gavaskar got injured in the 1st test and then only returned in the 5th test to score a 86 . So your theory of only couple of fast bowlers is rubbish so is saying that Gavaskar went AWOL.
In 1976 IND chased 400+ at PoS, Gavasker (& a couple of others) did get a 100, but that WI attack only had a young Holding. That was a Test WI went with 3 spinners & Lloyd actually declared after discussing with his spinners - 3 of them (Insan Ali, Padmore & forgot the 3rd one) - for next 12 years only spinner played a single Test for WI - Butts, as a replacement of injured Lloyd.
In 1976 2 tests were played at port of spain.In the first one Gavaskar scored a 156 againist Holding and Roberts.In the third test of the series also played at POS on the same wicket LLoyld dropped Roberts to play extra spinners as the pitch was the same used barely a week ago for the 2nd test.The Pitch turned and Indian spinners ran riot.WI spinners failed,though WI also had Holding and Julien in the attack.Gavaskar scored a 102 N.O in that match.
1970s cricket was disturbed by WSC, for next WI Series Gavasker mastered a Packered reject WI side for 650+ with 4 centuries in 6 Tests - that WI side was missing their top 15 cricketers, barring Kalicharan. That attack didn't have Holding, Roberts, Garner, Croft, Clarke, Holder & Mosely. Only a 20 years old Marshall made his debut in a high scoring series where 6 Test produced only 1 result & rest 5 were high scoring draws
How much do you lie?
In 1978 Clarke Holder and Marshall all 3 played.
The twin centuries in Kolkata was againist Marshall Clarke and Holder.
Gavasker faced a full strength WI side in 1982-83 in WI - taking out his 147* in a high scoring draw at Guyana (which is traditionally the highest scoring ground in WI those days), he would have averaged under 15 in that Series.
Gavaskar was in poor form before that 83 series in WI.He had had a poor series in AUS at the start of 81 followed by a wretched tour of NZ and 6 months later he struggled vs England at home except a 170 odd on a flattish wicket,6 months later he struggled on his tour of England and though he bashed a hapless Lanka at home after that.He was clearly struggling.
Now another of your lies.The Guyana test was draw due to no play being possible due to rain on two days not because it was some flat deck high scoring highway.Overall the series was indeed poor for Gavaskar.
He played last time against WI was in 1983-84 at home against Marshal & Holding (Garner didn't come & Roberts hardly played) - his 236* (In deed a great knock) actually took his series total to 400+, in a 6 Test series. -
In the 2nd test at Delhi Gavaskar scored a 121 vs Marshal Holding Davis and Wayne Daniel.The next match he scored a 90 odd againist the same attack.And followed it with the legendary 236 vs Marshall Holding and Roberts.
3. Against NZ, he has a century at Acuckland in 1975, a match that IND won & NZ was missing a certain name - RJ Hadlee. In 1979-80, he did face RJ - for a total of 135 in 3 Tests, at an average of.................. -
Gavaskar did struggle in the 1981 tour of NZ but before that he had scored runs againist Hadlee in India and also during 1976 tour.Even before that 1981 tour of NZ Gavaskar was struggling with his form.
4. Gavasker had great record against PAK - but not so in the 1982-83 series when Imran was at his prime. He mastered a PAK attack of Azim Hafeez & forgot names in 1983 & had a great series in 1978 at home, when Khan was mostly injured. In between, he had a great Test at Karachi in 1978, I agree, one of few in a 125 Test career -
Another lie.Gavaskar avgs 57.92 in matches in which Imran Khan played againist him.
In 82-83 series in Pakistan Gavaskar avgd 48.Imran Khan played all the 6 tests so did Sarfaraz Nawaz and Abdul Qadir.His scores in that series read 83/8,42/12,127/17 60/13/5,67.
http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/series/60507.html
Link to the 1982-83 series.
In 79 series at home Imran Khan missed only the 4th test and NOT MOSTLY INJURED.ANOTHER LIE.
http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/series/60482.html LINK to 79 series.Imran Khan played 5 matches out of 6.
In 78 series in Pakistan Gavaskar's scores read 89/5,97/111,137
Gavaskar also had a good last series at home againist Pakistan in 1987.Imran/Wasim/Qadir all played that series.
The only series that Imran missed was 3 test series of 1983(Second series of the year,the 1st series had 6 tests).
Look, I have nothing personal against him, one of the all time greatest; but he simply wasn't the player he is credited for. Besides,he was the utmost selfish, vindictive & ill headed person.
You have personal bias againist Indians which is why you run to every thread and try to prove that Gavaskar and Tendulkar are not the batsman the world knows them to be.Gavaskar is the greatest opener to have played the game your whining doesnt change that.Now since you have little substance againist his performances you want to take digs at his personality.
I give you 4 examples -
1. In 1975-76 when Pataudi retired, there were 2 incumbent for Indian Captaincy - Sunny & Bedi. Most of the management was for Bedi for his few years in County, Gavasker never liked that & he had a life time dig at BS whenever he got the chance. Later, Bombay lobby forced Bedi to resign on disciplinary grounds & a compromise choice (Venkat, from South) was picked.
LIES LIES LIES.BIG TIME LIES.Bedi was made captain in 1975-76 and continued till 1978 when he was removed because he LOST A SERIES TO PAKISTAN.Gavaskar was then made Captain and he won the home series vs WI.Bedi then created a ruckus almost begged that he wont play his last series under Gavaskar and so Venkat was made the captain for that one series in ENG in 1979 in which Bedi retired.
SERIES CAPTAINCY RECORDS OF BEDI/GAVASKAR and VENKAT.
http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/en...rt;template=results;type=allround;view=series
http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/en...rt;template=results;type=allround;view=series
http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/en...rt;template=results;type=allround;view=series
2. A MCG 1980-81, Lillee got him LBW (probably he in-side edged that) & showed him the way - Gavasker declared, conceded the match (& series). It was Indian Manager Pataudi, that ran into the field & sent Chauhan back to batting for a match IND eventually won.
Gavaskar was not in great touch in that series and was given poor decisions.He desperately wanted to score a century vs Lillee as he was the only great bowler of that era againist whom Gavaskar didnt have a century.Gavaskar had complained to the manager and the board about the poor umpiring.But since those were the days of Imperial Cricket nothing was done.Gavaskar made his point when he was given LBW of an inside edge.And he never conceded the match or the series,the Umpires threatened him that if he left the field of play with Chauhan India will concede the match and series.
3. He had twice a mid pitch brawl with Fletcher & Zaheer - in a meaning less match, in last hour, both those Captains offered draws, Gavasker used his influence to home Umpire & made them continue the match till he reached his 100. Zaheer was damn upset, but he was good buddy of Sunny, not much happened there, but Fleatcher wasn't that sober then.
We are talking facts here not stories.
4. In 1984-85 5th Test, Azhar was 65* & could have got 4th century of his career (in 3rd Test, 2nd of the match - a record hold by Sunny) - he declared the innings giving a side leading 2-1 (ENG) to chase 250 in 40 overs & win it 3-1!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Again a lie.Azhar was on 54.England was given that target to chase so that India could have a chance of dismissing England and square the series.And England DIDNT CHASE IT TO WIN 3-1.India scored at 7.5 runs a over in their 2nd innings in order to set a target for ENG and try to win the series.Another LIE EXPOSED.
Scorecard of the said Test Match.
http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/match/63395.html
5. In 1985-86, IND became the 1st Asian side coming very close to win a Test Series in AUS, at MCG IND needed 120+ with rain threatening around - Kapil was the Captain, who had just replaced Gavasker as Indian Captain. Do you know what Sunny did - he took 75 minutes & 50 balls to score 8, until rain saved AUS..........
Another half truth.Australia were saved by some poor captaincy by Kapil as well.The last Aussie pair of Border and Gilbert who added 77 runs and Kapil allowed the game to drift.When India came to bat Gavaskar was asked to hold one end up and Srikkanth who had scored a 86 off 95 odd balls in the 1st innings was asked to up the scoring from the other end.The pitch by that time had become very hard to bat on and Srikkanth struggled.
The main culprit was the defensive mindset of the Indian team of those days.Not Gavaskar.
Look, I again say, don't judge me with my Nationality or question my integrity, I love this game & do study lot on this from passion.
The number of lies that you spread in these posts tell your intention behind the posts.Your integrity is not my concern it is for others to judge seeing your posts here and the lies within.And your bias shows why posters judge the posts with the authors nationality.
@Sensible Indian Fan, or [MENTION=50394]IndianWillow[/MENTION] [MENTION=38544]Indianfan[/MENTION] [MENTION=65183]freelance_cricketer[/MENTION]
Next time this guy tries these sort of tactics do call him out..
You know you can try to push as much as your agenda with your lies spun through immaculately worded and long winding posts and try to some how make Gavaskar and Tendulkar look inferior batsmen it doesnt work.Many just take your posts on face value because they simply dont have the energy intent time and keeness to find the truth behind them.All it exposes is your bias and hatred for Indian cricketers.These lies may work on others but not on me.
, it flew along and suddenly the Windies were running away with the match.
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