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Who would be your ICC World Cup 2023 semi-finalists?

These predictions show.most of the ex cricketers are doing it like picking fruits from basket ,however from what we have seen there seems to be intense battle for SF slots and specially the 3rd and 4th place is not easy to call upon
 
SpiritOf1903 said:
Very open at the moment!
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India and New Zealand are looking certain to make it into the semifinals. The other spots can be taken by almost any other team. Mostly likely those other team would be from Pakistan, South Africa and England.
 
NZ is rocking again. 2015 - Australia They reached final. 2019 - England They reached final. 2023. India - They are all set to reach semi final. Win or loss. This in itself is an achievement. Ability to adapt to different pitches as a team and delivering is an art. Look at England. Even in England they lost to a lot of teams in the preliminary rounds. They are good on specific pitches unlike NZ who can do well on different kind of pitches.
 
After South Africa's defeat against Netherlands and England's defeat against Afghanistan, I say #3 and #4 are wide open. Many teams have chances.

New Zealand should make it to semi-final after being 4-0 already.
 
Amazing really....most people were writing off New Zealand before the tournament but here they are. Top of the table including a resounding win against the defending champions.

Year in year out , they keep doing this relentlessly. Has to be the mentality..
 
sweep_shot said:
After South Africa's defeat against Netherlands and England's defeat against Afghanistan, I say #3 and #4 are wide open. Many teams have chances.

New Zealand should make it to semi-final after being 4-0 already.
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even if they won, the no.3 and no.4 would had been still open.
 
NZ has had the best beginning to the tournament , they had favourable scheduling and they made the most of it by securing wins vs all the weak teams that they faced.

Having said that, the second half of the tournament could be way tougher for them. I’m still not sold convinced any team has made it yet.
 
sweep_shot said:
No.

#3 would've been almost booked because SA would've been 3-0.

Due to SA's defeat against the Dutch, it is now more open.
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Umm no. Any team being 3 -0 is not booked.

Every team is playing 9 games. The top 2 teams cannot stay undefeated. Only one team can stay undefeated.

Logically you can still qualify with 3 losses and in worst case even 4 losses can get you to qualify aswell but for that certain things should happen
 
Major said:
Umm no. Any team being 3 -0 is not booked.

Every team is playing 9 games. The top 2 teams cannot stay undefeated. Only one team can stay undefeated.

Logically you can still qualify with 3 losses and in worst case even 4 losses can get you to qualify aswell but for that certain things should happen
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I would say they would've been almost booked. They are yet to play Bangladesh and Afghanistan (two potentially easy wins). One more win would've given them 6 wins.

It is now trickier for South Africa.
 
Major said:
Umm no. Any team being 3 -0 is not booked.

Every team is playing 9 games. The top 2 teams cannot stay undefeated. Only one team can stay undefeated.

Logically you can still qualify with 3 losses and in worst case even 4 losses can get you to qualify aswell but for that certain things should happen
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Rained off or a tie means 2 teams can be undefeated.
 
nish_mate said:
Rained off or a tie means 2 teams can be undefeated.
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rained off factor is being ignored as it is highly unlikely it would happen.

Tie also, a highly unlikely factor as no game has gone to the wire yet
 
Major said:
rained off factor is being ignored as it is highly unlikely it would happen.

Tie also, a highly unlikely factor as no game has gone to the wire yet
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Rain can affect, depending where the games are, couple of warm ups were rained off

None of the 2019 matches went to the wire, however the final was a tie
 
India and NZ looking solid so far for the semi-finals.

Anything is possible regarding the other 2 spots.

I still think Aussies will come good.
 
Pakistan will end Australia’s misery tomorrow.

Top 3 will be Kiwis, Bharat and Pakistan.

For 4th spot, I do see a fight till the end between SEA nations
 
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I know NZ has some tough matches to come and Williamson is injured, but I feel that together with India they are in pole position to qualify for the semi-finals.

England and South Africa must be feeling the heat having lost to weaker teams and that's increased the pressure on both.

Pakistan and Australia as semi-finalists maybe?
 
Bhaijaan said:
Pakistan will end Australia’s misery tomorrow.

Top 3 will be Kiwis, Bharat and Pakistan.

For 4th spot, I do see a fight till the end between SEA nations
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Do you still think, Pakistan will finish in top 3 after today's loss?
 
1.Nz 2. IND 3. Aus 4.SA

Nz v SA, Ind v Aus
Nz v Ind, Ind winners

Nz will.beat in pool game to clinch top spot
 
hassan918 said:
Do you still think, Pakistan will finish in top 3 after today's loss?
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Today’s result has dented my confidence slightly. I expected a Pakistan win.

I reckon Australia are on a way to bounce back now.

Today’s result has opened up the semis fight more than any other result.

Had Pakistan won tonight, Bharat, NZ and Pakistan would be assured semi finalists pretty much
 
Pakistan will need to defeat 2 teams out of England, NZ, SA.

And also defeat Afghanistan, Bangladesh who won't be pushovers either.

So it's looking very difficult now and NRR has taken a beating after today's defeat.
 
Said it way before the world cup began,

NZ
India
SA
Eng

Still hasn't changed, max aus might end up replacing sa or eng in this sf spot.
 
We can divide teams into two categories, ie stronger and weaker teams.

Stronger Teams- India, England, RSA, NewZealand, Pakistan and Australia
Weaker Teams- Netherlands, Sri Lanka, Bangladesh and Afghanistan.

India - 3 matches left each against strong teams
New Zealand - 4 matches left against strong teams
Australia - only 2 matches left against stronger teams
Pakistan - 3 matches left against stronger teams and against Afghan in Chennai
RSA - 4 matches left AST
England - 4 matches left AST

India are certainly qualifying to semis.

Australia needs to face only 2 quality oppositions now.

Tricky situation for Pakistan and RSA.
 
boomboomcheema said:
Pakistan will need to defeat 2 teams out of England, NZ, SA.

And also defeat Afghanistan, Bangladesh who won't be pushovers either.

So it's looking very difficult now and NRR has taken a beating after today's defeat.
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If we defeat 2 out of England, NZ, SA. Run rate wouldn't matter, we will qualify anyways InshAllah

If we lose 2 more matches, then forget run rate. WE DON'T DESERVE QUALIFICATION IN THAT SCENARIO ANYWAYS

We will win our next 4 matches InshAllah.
2 easy ones against Afg and Bang
And 2 against SA and NZ
would qualify even before we play our last group match
 
At this rate we might need to win all of our remaining matches.

Given the way we are playing at the moment that seems a distant dream.
 
Today's win confirmed that india wil top the table...South Africa will beat Bangladesh and Afghanistan and either Pak or NZ.Newzealand can beat srilanka and either Pak or S A. so for the 4th spot Pakistan and Australia will have to fight. My gut feeling is newzealand will beat Australia and loose to Pakistan...so 4th position will be Pakistan...so Indian vs Pakistan semifinal is possible.what you think guys
 
dravidthewall said:
Today's win confirmed that india wil top the table...South Africa will beat Bangladesh and Afghanistan and either Pak or NZ.Newzealand can beat srilanka and either Pak or S A. so for the 4th spot Pakistan and Australia will have to fight. My gut feeling is newzealand will beat Australia and loose to Pakistan...so 4th position will be Pakistan...so Indian vs Pakistan semifinal is possible.what you think guys
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After today's defeat against Afghanistan, I guess you don't need to consider them among the 4 teams that will qualify for the semi-finals. It would be a MIRACLE.
 
At the moment, India, South Africa and New Zealand are almost certain to make it to the semifinals. The 4th team is likely to be Australia.
 
With Semis approaching and only a few teams left in contention, what are the desired match ups for teams?

In order I reckon

India - SL, Pakistan, NZ, SA and Aus
South Africa - SL, NZ, Pakistan, Aus and India
Aus - SL, NZ, Pakistan, SA and India
NZ - SL, SA, Pakistan, India and Aus
Pak - SL, NZ, SA, Aus and India
SL - Pakistan, NZ, SA, Aus and India
 
Based on History India would want to be facing New Zealand Last.

In fact, I predicted before this WC began for New Zealand to win this WC, because I do believe they will stun India in either semis or final
 
Bilal Ahmad15 said:
Based on History India would want to be facing New Zealand Last.

In fact, I predicted before this WC began for New Zealand to win this WC, because I do believe they will stun India in either semis or final
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I'm surprised we got close in the match, expecting a lot more in a KO match.

In terms of planning I don't think there is a better team in world cricket so they probably found a few things to use in a possible KO game after getting a look against India.
 
Bilal Ahmad15 said:
Based on History India would want to be facing New Zealand Last.

In fact, I predicted before this WC began for New Zealand to win this WC, because I do believe they will stun India in either semis or final
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We broke the Jinx now so I'll say bring it on any team to face India in semifinals .
@Aman was Mitchell hundred against India selfish knock ? :shh
 
Devadwal said:
We broke the Jinx now so I'll say bring it on any team to face India in semifinals .
@Aman was Mitchell hundred against India selfish knock ? :shh
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Nah, can't say much about it all of our batsmen were struggling in the last 10-12 overs. We should have added another 30-40 runs but couldn't get going because the pitch was slow and not coming onto the bar and the Indian bowlers had worked out to take pace off the ball and bowl cutters.
 
This is more about fan theories frankly.

When in knockout stage, unless it is a weird fluke like Kenya getting in, teams are there because they have played decently and their matchwinners are in good touch.

Thus any team can beat another especially if factors like toss, pitch, few lucky breaks go their way.

Historical track records, burden of past campaigns etc. are for fans to worry and obsess over. The actual teams are rarely impacted on the day by this.

SA can chase down 320 in a semi, they can also be bowled out for 220 batting first.

India might struggle to chase 240 and they might also smash 350 batting first.
 
The current Indian team is more than capable of seeing off any threat from the opposition but more than the opposition teams, I am much more worried about the Semis happening in the flat tracks of Wankhede with its extremely small dimensions (Eden Gardens is not far off in terms of smallish ground, except the pitch there I hope won't be as flat pancake as it is in Mumbai). This in a way will handicap our spinners.
 
New Zealand should focus on qualifying first before worrying about match ups .

Australia , SA, PAK, SL. All 4 of them can beat NZ based on recent evidence.

India literally had their worst day in the field, had a short turnaround and still pulled one over NZ in Dharamshala of all places while chasing !

That should worry NZ a lot. A lot.
 
Nikhil_cric said:
New Zealand should focus on qualifying first before worrying about match ups .

Australia , SA, PAK, SL. All 4 of them can beat NZ based on recent evidence.

India literally had their worst day in the field, had a short turnaround and still pulled one over NZ in Dharamshala of all places while chasing !

That should worry NZ a lot. A lot.
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Agreed, it will be fun to see NZ lose a few games from hereon and lose the plot of getting qualified for semis. Starting with today's game against Australia.
 
Nikhil_cric said:
New Zealand should focus on qualifying first before worrying about match ups .

Australia , SA, PAK, SL. All 4 of them can beat NZ based on recent evidence.

India literally had their worst day in the field, had a short turnaround and still pulled one over NZ in Dharamshala of all places while chasing !

That should worry NZ a lot. A lot.
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Ah that's why I used the word possible and included all the teams who can realistically qualify.

But then again, Indian fans are known for jumping the gun.
 
Sachin136 said:
If they make it to the semis, Australia should be the least preferred matchup for everyone. Especially with Head potentially coming back.
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Can't get a gauge on SA but think Aus definitely in a KO game will be difficult. They are mentally tough and have a championship DNA that the other teams don't have.
 
Nikhil_cric said:
New Zealand should focus on qualifying first before worrying about match ups .

Australia , SA, PAK, SL. All 4 of them can beat NZ based on recent evidence.

India literally had their worst day in the field, had a short turnaround and still pulled one over NZ in Dharamshala of all places while chasing !

That should worry NZ a lot. A lot.
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We should all be really worried of India. Especially if they go through GS unbeaten.
 
Aman said:
Nah, can't say much about it all of our batsmen were struggling in the last 10-12 overs. We should have added another 30-40 runs but couldn't get going because the pitch was slow and not coming onto the bar and the Indian bowlers had worked out to take pace off the ball and bowl cutters.
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That was selfish knock but you were only cry about Kohli. Lol :shh
 
Aman said:
None of our batsmen were able to accelerate at the death even though the base had been set for 300.
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He was a set batsman . Stop justified that selfish knock even your commie were talking throughout game
 
Devadwal said:
He was a set batsman . Stop justified that selfish knock even your commie were talking throughout game
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Whatever dude. Your team had adjusted to the conditions and tied down our batsmen. We were unable to adjust to India taking pace off the ball and failed in the last 10-12 overs to put on a big score.
 
Devadwal said:
He was a set batsman . Stop justified that selfish knock even your commie were talking throughout game
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That selfish knock (especially between the score of 90 to his eventual 100) by Mitchell completely screwed up whatever momentum they were building on. Simon Doull was forced to criticize his countrymen from the comm box thanks mainly to Shastri and Sunny G who prodded the conversation towards the selfishness of the batter close to his milestone. Doull had no way to escape but to criticize Mithcell, in the end.
 
Aman said:
Ah that's why I used the word possible and included all the teams who can realistically qualify.

But then again, Indian fans are known for jumping the gun.
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Not jumping any gun. I didn't say anything about India's progression

Merely pointing out that NZ have a tough progression ahead.

NZ needed all the luck in the World to qualify last time around as well.

Also , you don't match up very well against AUS, PAK, even SL historically.

So I'd be more worried about matchups within the GS rather than in KOs.

Because we all know that NZ are not winning this thing no matter how deep you go.
 
avidlearner said:
That selfish knock (especially between the score of 90 to his eventual 100) by Mitchell completely screwed up whatever momentum they were building on. Simon Doull was forced to criticize his countrymen from the comm box thanks mainly to Shastri and Sunny G who prodded the conversation towards the selfishness of the batter close to his milestone. Doull had no way to escape but to criticize Mithcell, in the end.
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The set batsmen is by no ways expected to hit. He's there to see it to the end, it's the others who do the hitting. That's how we play.

An anchor to bat till the end there to stabilise incase of a collapse and finish the innings at the end(which Mitchell did). It's the same role Kane usually fills.
 
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Nikhil_cric said:
Not jumping any gun. I didn't say anything about India's progression

Merely pointing out that NZ have a tough progression ahead.

NZ needed all the luck in the World to qualify last time around as well.

Also , you don't match up very well against AUS, PAK, even SL historically.

So I'd be more worried about matchups within the GS rather than in KOs.

Because we all know that NZ are not winning this thing no matter how deep you go.
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Ok should I remove NZ from the list because Nikhil thinks NZ won't qualify?
 
Aman said:
The set batsmen is by no ways expected to hit. He's there to see it to the end, it's the others who do the hitting. That's how we play.

An anchor to bat till the end there to stabilise incase of a collapse. It's the same role Kane usually fills..
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Whatever floats your boat, mate!

I am pretty sure you wouldn't have such excuses lined up, had it been one of the Indian batters (a team and players performance that you constantly try to nitpick on in this forum).
 
avidlearner said:
Whatever floats your boat, mate!

I am pretty sure you wouldn't have such excuses lined up had it been one of the Indian batters (a team and players performance that you constantly try to nitpick on in this forum).
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Had Rachin not gotten out, he probably would have been the anchor and it would be Mitchell accelerating. Having two new batsman in that too on that pitch would have been a disaster.

If you actually watched NZ games, you would know this is how we play. We don't like having two new batsman at the crease and the set batsman is expected to bat the innings while others around him take risks.
 
pratiktc said:
This is more about fan theories frankly.

When in knockout stage, unless it is a weird fluke like Kenya getting in, teams are there because they have played decently and their matchwinners are in good touch.

Thus any team can beat another especially if factors like toss, pitch, few lucky breaks go their way.

Historical track records, burden of past campaigns etc. are for fans to worry and obsess over. The actual teams are rarely impacted on the day by this.

SA can chase down 320 in a semi, they can also be bowled out for 220 batting first.

India might struggle to chase 240 and they might also smash 350 batting first.
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Nah definitely match ups make a difference. I know Aus and Pakistan are terrible for us our records against both off them poor.
 
Aman said:
We should all be really worried of India. Especially if they go through GS unbeaten.
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If India qualify I'd want to face opponents in the following order

1. South Africa
2. New Zealand
3. Australia

Assuming these 3 have the highest chances of qualification.

If anyone of them misses out and Pak/SL qualify, I'd gladly take them. I wouldn't want to face a resurgent Aus at all especially at tinpot grounds like Wankhede and Eden Gardens where the ball also has a propensity for swing and bounce during evening.
 
Aman said:
The set batsmen is by no ways expected to hit. He's there to see it to the end, it's the others who do the hitting. That's how we play.

An anchor to bat till the end there to stabilise incase of a collapse and finish the innings at the end(which Mitchell did). It's the same role Kane usually fills.

Just a desi mindset to see it as something else.
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Desi mindset is century. Saarrr I need century. Milestone. Century. Demi God. Sachin God lol.

Indian bowlers have been outstanding and probably the reason why india is so good but people of india will still praise their overrated batsmen who often fail in KO.
 
kron said:
Desi mindset is century. Saarrr I need century. Milestone. Century. Demi God. Sachin God lol.

Indian bowlers have been outstanding and probably the reason why india is so good but people of india will still praise their overrated batsmen who often fail in KO.
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We are happy with our overrated Batsman sir even if we lose semifinal 😉they are playing better cricket unlike other team who play like minnow while good in giving statements like they are world beater😊They Crushed Pakistan and defeated NZ ,Aus.
Defeating pakistan in Wc brings than more joy as winning T20 wc🤣I don't give damn about T20 wc .

8-0 is more important than 8 T20 wc are you agree indian fans😂😉?

I hope you are also happy with King Babar👑and Glichrist Rizwan😃
 
If you, even hypothetically desire a matchup, then you are not fit enough to win the WC.
 
IND-SAF & AUS-NZ ties hold the key. Most likely, these four will win their remaining games (Kiwis losing to SAF)

If IND wins, then they finish as 1, SAF 2 or 3 (doesn’t matter); looser of AUS-NZ as 4th; means -

IND vs Looser of AUS/NZ (most likely NZ)


If SAF wins, most likely they’ll finish top for better NRR, IND 2. Then if AUS wins tonight, they might let the last game (ND) slip!!! That makes
IND- NZ, AUS - SAF; otherwise IND-AUS; SAF-NZ

The least chances are IND-SAF; AUS-NZ pairing: India won’t finish 4th; and if they finish 2nd/3rd; most likely SAF will then finish 1. With already 10 points and games against NZ, AFG & IND left - SAF not likely to finish 4th either.
 
Abraham786 said:
We are happy with our overrated Batsman sir even if we lose semifinal 😉they are playing better cricket unlike other team who play like minnow while good in giving statements like they are world beater😊They Crushed Pakistan and defeated NZ ,Aus.
Defeating pakistan in Wc brings than more joy as winning T20 wc🤣I don't give damn about T20 wc .

8-0 is more important than 8 T20 wc are you agree indian fans😂😉?

I hope you are also happy with King Babar👑and Glichrist Rizwan😃
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Not what I meant at all but ok.
 
Abraham786 said:
We are happy with our overrated Batsman sir even if we lose semifinal 😉they are playing better cricket unlike other team who play like minnow while good in giving statements like they are world beater😊They Crushed Pakistan and defeated NZ ,Aus.
Defeating pakistan in Wc brings than more joy as winning T20 wc🤣I don't give damn about T20 wc .

8-0 is more important than 8 T20 wc are you agree indian fans😂😉?

I hope you are also happy with King Babar👑and Glichrist Rizwan😃
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I always get a chuckle when Pakistani fans try to mock and disrespect Indian batsmen.
 
India's problem is venue. If it's not against pakistan, then India's semis will be in Wankhade. And unless BCCI gets a slow pitch, on a normal wankhade pitch, SA and Aus will have advantage against India because of the power hitters they have.
 
This thrashing of NZ should encourage everyone to beat NZ now.

NZ will be mentally scarred after this.
 
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