Whose career has been ended by this shambolic tour of Australia?

[HappyWarsFan]

Hopefully it's the last of Masood, Shafiq, Musa Khan in tests, Abbas.

 

[Relic]

Definitely Shafiq.
Would have said Azhar if he wasn't the captain.
Shane's career depends on how he performs in the second innings.
Abbas maybe maybe not.
Yasir Shah not in the UAE imo

 

[Chief Destroyer]

You hope Misbah, Azhar and Shafiq trio are never to be seen again. Their mediocrity and timidness spreads like wildfire.

 

[HappyWarsFan]

You hope Misbah, Azhar and Shafiq trio are never to be seen again. Their mediocrity and timidness spreads like wildfire.

I would like Azhar to be gone too but he's captain. Will pass judgement on Misbah after a few home series. If he can at least to get us to win at home that is good enough

 

[Chief Destroyer]

I would like Azhar to be gone too but he's captain. Will pass judgement on Misbah after a few home series. If he can at least to get us to win at home that is good enough

Winning home series with experienced geezers will not build a team for the future or away from home. Pakistan need to invest in players in their mid to late 20s that have produced in domestic with a bit of an upside to keep the team afloat while working on 2-3 young projects with huge upside on the side.

 

[Saj]

Careers don't end, the same players just keep getting recycled.

A bad habit of Pakistan cricket.

 

[Ilan Bluestone]

Careers don't end, the same players just keep getting recycled.

A bad habit of Pakistan cricket.

You have insider info, any chance Masood, Ali, Shafiq, Shah are out the door? I mean we are going to be stuck with Misbah unfortunately after sacking a great coach in Mickey.

 

[Shoaibbtt]

I would like Azhar to be gone too but he's captain. Will pass judgement on Misbah after a few home series. If he can at least to get us to win at home that is good enough

Well I pass judgement on misbah for appointing azhar as captain. If you look at the stats you can see for yourself how his average has gone down since 2016. I’ve lost respect for the PCB as they couldn’t give a damn about hard workers and actually producing a competitive side but rather pick the same tried and tested players.

 

[Shoaibbtt]

Hopefully it's the last of Masood, Shafiq, Musa Khan in tests, Abbas.

Unfair to pass judgement on musa Khan a youngster. He was never a test bowler and is quite clearly made for t20, our selector was lazy in just selecting someone purely on pace.

Shafiq and masood must go. Especially masood, he’s had ample chances and still averages around the mid 20s and made only one hundred. Shafiq on the other hand declining performance and a mediocre average, just analyse his stats from 2016.

 

[Junaids]

Careers don't end, the same players just keep getting recycled.

A bad habit of Pakistan cricket.

Were this Australia or England, the answers in order would be:

1. Misbah from both roles.
2. Azhar as a player, effectively ending his captaincy too.
3. Imran Khan
4. Iftikhar Ahmed
5. Musa Khan
6. Yasir Shah outside Asia.

What is extraordinary is that Inzamam was no genius, but none of those five players would have been selected for this tour under him. Inzy and Mickey didn’t want Imran, Iftikhar and Musa and had finally realised by the Third Test in South Africa that Azhar was finished and Yasir was a liability outside Asia.

These are all Misbah picks, and they are all disasters.

 

[Junaids]

Hopefully it's the last of Masood, Shafiq, Musa Khan in tests, Abbas.

I used to be Masood’s biggest critic but after three innings he has lasted a minimum of fifteen overs in every single one. Iftikhar is averaging about 4!

After Babar, Shan Masood is the closest thing to a success with the bat.

 

[sshakir411]

Yasir Shah and Azhar Ali. 0 performance while hogging important roles.

 

[Blistering Barnacle]

I used to be Masood’s biggest critic but after three innings he has lasted a minimum of fifteen overs in every single one. Iftikhar is averaging about 4!

After Babar, Shan Masood is the closest thing to a success with the bat.

I didn't like Masood either, but after seeing him in SA I thought he was pretty good. He hasn't done well on this tour but he's done better than any other batsman except for Babar from the Pak side.

He's the least of the batting problems.

 

[Watsupdoc]

So Musa deserves never to play tests again based on one performance?

 

[Junaids]

So Musa deserves never to play tests again based on one performance?

He has never had a single red ball performance to justify a Test cap.

When he was selected he was not in the top fifty domestic wicket takers in a six team tournament.

He lacks the core attributes required to be a Test fast bowler. He is far too short - not slightly too short - meaning that he has too bowl far too short to get any lift, and he is easy to bat against.

He has no control over line and length.

If he wants to play Test cricket he needs to either become a batsman or a spinner, because he is physically incapable of being a Test fast bowler.

 

[shabas]

None of the TTFs will go.

 

[CricketDon]

God willing shafiq. I’d love to know when the last time he was benched or dropped for a series. Does anyone have this stat? [MENTION=132916]Junaids[/MENTION] [MENTION=134608]Hawkeye[/MENTION] @saj

 

[TeamPak95]

At the very least, Masood, Shafiq and Imran. If Azhar wasn't captain, then him too. But in all honesty, I won't be surprised if everyone makes it out of this and play the SL series.

 

[angrypathan]

God willing shafiq. I’d love to know when the last time he was benched or dropped for a series. Does anyone have this stat? [MENTION=132916]Junaids[/MENTION] [MENTION=134608]Hawkeye[/MENTION] @saj

Never. He's played in every test since his debut

 

[Arsal_AK]

I used to be Masood’s biggest critic but after three innings he has lasted a minimum of fifteen overs in every single one. Iftikhar is averaging about 4!

After Babar, Shan Masood is the closest thing to a success with the bat.

That would be Rizwan, but I see your point. Masood isn't going anywhere nor should he. He deserves the SL series and beyond if he performs. First we need to fix the other 4 spots.

Shan, Babar at 4 and Rizwan at 6. When we get the rest of the positions filled, we can look at replacing Shan.

 

[PakLFC]

Imran Khan jnr. I don't know why we pick him when he never contributes in any way.

 

[iRfaN_LA]

Ideally, Misbah, Azhar, Imran khan, iftikhar and musa, yasir(outsider asia) but nothing will happen.

 

[timeflies]

Everyone except Babar, Rizwan, Shaheen and Naseem need to prove their worth again to even be considered. If this embarrassment isn't enough for some drastic and ruthless changes, then we will be stuck with mediocrity forever. Established players need to be shown if you consistently don't perform, you can get lost. Instead, we do the opposite where we drop a promising new guy after one game and let established players fail over and over again yet their place in the team is as solid as ever as if its their god given right to play for Pakistan.

And let's not even get started on selections such as Imran Khan, Musa Khan (for tests) and Irfan (T20 squad). Wasim Khan came in with this new domestic model and presented it with all these lovely bells and whistles and how it's going to help us pick the deserving players now. Yet he appointed Misbah who then plucked these guys out of thin air without any regard of their domestic form or anything else. God knows on what basis these guys were selected.

 

[Sean143]

Abbas might be going through a lean patch, but we need a bowler like him to be at the top of his game, and he probably will get his form back . Lean patches come in the life of every sportsman and the good ones bounce back.
Naseem is almost ready for Test cricket, his workload must be managed, comparing him and Musa atm is unfair. I think the young speedstar is going to play on and off for us for a couple of years in Tests before his body becomes strong enough to be a regular in the side.
Shaheen is developing into a fine all-format bowler, but it is important that we manage his workload properly as well. After all, he is still a teenager, and must be managed properly.
Imran Khan was never an international quality test bowler. If not that, he was certainly not good enough to be a regular for a nation blessed with abundance of fast bowlers. His career was pretty much over in 2016, but Misbah Ul Haq's ineptitude as a selector gave him false hope.
Azhar Ali is seriously out of sync at the moment, he has been struggling with his stance for a considerable length of time now, but yet no improvements have been made. Perhaps, this would be one of his last test matches judging by the way things have panned out for him in the recent past.

Asad Shafiq is one of the many enigmatic cases that Pakistan cricket has been frequently coming up with in recent times. He just isn't reliable for a player of his calibre and experience. He had never gotten a duck before the England series in 2016, batted well at the start in that tour, but since then (after starting out with a pair I guess) he has added plenty of eggs to his bucket. A batsman of his quality and experience shouldn't be such a nervous starter, and if he is to retain his place in the side, the tide surely needs to change direction in quick time.

People here are being very harsh on Musa. They don't realize that even the best of ingredients when fed undercooked produce a pretty forgettable eating experience. Let me put it another way, how would it feel if you were to swallow a slice of apple without chewing it ? First of all you wouldn't be able to take it down, and even if you somehow do, it be would hard on you digestive system. Well Misbah, did the same thing to Musa here, and the poor boy wasn't able to digest the harsh phenomenon that is test cricket. Give the young lad some time, he might not be tall, but seems to have other ingredients that are very useful for a paceman to succeed at the top level, give the pour soul some time to toil in FC cricket rather than judging a highly unrefined version of him.

Shan has shown improvements and I would be very much willing to persist with him for some time considering the depleted batting stocks in the country. Apart from that fawad needs to be there at 6 in place of Iftikhar and Abid should come in at three with Sami( who seems to have developed his test game)opening with Shan for the next 7-8 tests

Iftakhar Ahmed has too many technical flaws and he is seriously limited. Him being a succesful test cricketer would be the last nail in the coffin when test cricket were to be buried.

Harris Sohail has had this issue with rising deliveries outside the off stump for quite some time (I have been noticing that since 2014). Previously he would leave or duck in such scenarios, but we really exposed him by making him bat at three in the wrong format (i.e T20I cricket). I hope that he can plug the cracks once he is back to Pakistan (like he has been doing in the past by leaving such balls)

Zafar Gohar needs to be in the side, he is a decent long format bowler, can bat and has a level head on his shoulders. I would back shadab at 6, as he can be developed into a really good test all rounder. Yasir Shah should be persisted with in tests for some time (on spinning tracks), till the likes of Shadab and Zafar take over the charge.

I have a lot more to say
But at the moment I'll just sway away.

 

[big_gamer007]

Knowing Pakistan probably Musa's career. Rest will continue for a while

 

[Aaaaa]

They should prepare another spinner instead of Yasir for these conditions and get him to focus on batting, Azhar is not fit for his role anymore, Imam needs to humble himself and Abbas is finished. I don’t see Musa playing again for a while but again it is Pakistan so anything can happen.

 

[Shoaib88]

Well, definitely not Yasir's lol

 

[Saj]

You have insider info, any chance Masood, Ali, Shafiq, Shah are out the door? I mean we are going to be stuck with Misbah unfortunately after sacking a great coach in Mickey.

Heads will roll, no doubt about it, but it's not always the ones you expect.

 

[ZamanFan]

PCB mafia will try to protect the vampires they've hired to destroy Pakistani national team. The joke batting lineup will be protected including shameless captain Azhar averaging under 9. Most probably they'll affix blame on bowlers.

The only losers are the fans and broadcasters who this mafia has tricked again and again.

 

[Minnowbasher]

Pakistan cricket is finished. Let's just enjoy PSLs and winning matches at home against minnows.


Stay happy guys dont lose your mental health thanks to a bunch of jokers and losers.

 

[Majid Khan]

The question should be which players will get a lifeline in their failed cricket careers and ready to make a comeback and capitalise on the pathetic performances by their replacements on this tour?

You can already hear it, there will be calls soon for Sarfraz to come back because he’s a fighter , Hafeez to be in as test opener to add experience, Ahmed Shezad and Umar Akmal to be given ‘fair’ treatment and brought back v Sri Lanka.

Sometimes you wonder if certain ‘favourite’ players missing out from a place in the Pakistan squad on tours to Aus and SA is actually a pre planned move to prolong their careers.

 

[TurkishCricketFan]

A shameless way to spin this would be to shift the blame to bowlers and especially "youngsters", and in reality no major changes are applied except for dropping Imam & Naseem & Musa.

 

[barah_admi]

I hope Azhar and Shafiq.

I hope this leads to a sustained run for salahuddin, Imam, ahmed and a return for shadab and shinwari.

 

[Hasan123]

Yasir and Azhar should be the first 2 to go. Asad should be given the Sri Lanka series. If he fails there, he should be dropped.

 

[j_kazmi]

Shafiq will score his career saving century tomorrow and secure his position for the next series.

It really shows his selfishness. The guy never scores when the team needs saving but when his career needs saving he all of the sudden comes alive.

 

[Sycamore]

Imam in tests
Azhar Ali
Iftikhar
Shan Masood (wont survive on turning tracks whatso ever)
Yasir Shah for overseas tours
Imran Khan
Musa for now

 

[Boiz Played Well]

You guys seem to want to throw out players without having any like-for-like replacements in mind. If the argument is for youngsters to take those spots, then the same is going to happen that happened with the Pakistan bowling attack this tour.

Sometimes you have to look at who is your best possible option regardless of form. I was over Shan Masood before this tour, but seeing as he outlasted much of the top-order in most innings—and how poorly two other openers did—indicates we have to consider him seriously. Yes Australia and India would've put him out to pasture already but Pakistan does not have that luxury. Invested too much in him now to just cut losses.

Same with Asad Shafiq. Who's going to replace him in the middle order? He has the most experience in the line-up and scores sporadically on the big stage. Who's sitting in the wings ready to place him? Iftikhar's consistent failures with the bat showed how much we can trust our FC averages.

Wholesale changes won't do any good. Need a return of experience in the bowling unit. And an infusion of some batting talent with the likes of Sami Aslam being considered again. And whoever is tried out should be given a whole year to prove themselves especially with how infrequent Tests are.

 

[Khan12]

For next series drop a lot of this rubbish and go with young players in Zeeshan malik, Imran butt, zafar gohar etc. Enough is enough.

 

[Green Patriot]

Not one person.

Except perhaps Musa and perhaps Imran no one will even be dropped, who will also be back some time later.

 

[moghul]

Get rid of Misbah and we will have some hope.

 

[MenInG]

Azhar Ali should be given marching orders sooner than later. Sooner the better, to get someone like Abid Ali good chances to get settled in.

 

[Asif321]

First and foremost it should end head coach and batting coach job of Misbah

Misbah can stay as CS

 

[Bilal Ahmad15]

- Azhar Ali - Gone - (will be sacked as captain too)
- Imam Ul-Haq - Dropped - For Test cricket only
- Asad Shafiq - Gone
- Iftikhar Ahmed - Dropped For Test cricket only
- Imran Khan Sr - Gone
- Muhammad Musa Khan - Dropped for Test Cricket only
- Yasir Shah- Gone after a few series
- Muhammad Abbas - Gone after a few series
- Misbah - Gone
- Waqar - Maybe Gone

 

[Energy]

None. Same squad will play the SL series.

 

[Ilan Bluestone]

Heads will roll, no doubt about it, but it's not always the ones you expect.

The nepotism and cronyism will forever plague us. I am not saying we have a world class team underneath it all, but at least put the best 11 out there.

 

[Markhor]

It'll just be the easy targets of Imran Khan and Musa Khan.

Both deserve axing, but the seniors Azhar Ali, Asad Shafiq (a few harmless 50s isn't enough from a 71 Test capped batsman) and Yasir Shah (outside Asia) need to be held accountable too.

 

[Bewal Express]

Azhar Ali should be given marching orders sooner than later. Sooner the better, to get someone like Abid Ali good chances to get settled in.

AA and AS are going nowhere because they bring the much vaunted experience of failure. I said before the tour our batsmen have no excuses because we had the experience with these 2 and the talent of Babar but in the end these guys brought Zilch.

 

[Shazzam]

Misbah as a coach should be permanently axed from the team.

 

[Pete Rose]

It'll just be the easy targets of Imran Khan and Musa Khan.

Both deserve axing, but the seniors Azhar Ali, Asad Shafiq (a few harmless 50s isn't enough from a 71 Test capped batsman) and Yasir Shah (outside Asia) need to be held accountable too.

In a fair world - it would be the coaching staff, Azhar, Shafiq, Yasir, Imran Khan, and Iftikhar.

 

[Watsupdoc]

He has never had a single red ball performance to justify a Test cap.

When he was selected he was not in the top fifty domestic wicket takers in a six team tournament.

He lacks the core attributes required to be a Test fast bowler. He is far too short - not slightly too short - meaning that he has too bowl far too short to get any lift, and he is easy to bat against.

He has no control over line and length.

If he wants to play Test cricket he needs to either become a batsman or a spinner, because he is physically incapable of being a Test fast bowler.

Wasn't Malcolm Marshall pretty short as well?