Why 280 wasn't a GOOD SCORE in the first ODI against Australia

[Dr_Bassim]

Actually, on most days its a winnable total.

But you have to look at the semantics when you see totals, instead of looking them in all exclusivity.

280 would have been a wonderful total, had Pakistan batted their socks off and reached it after throwing everything they had to the willow.

However, Pakistani batsmen batted with no urgency, in a retirement mode for most of the innings (bar a crazy Akmal who's mostly crazy no matter what the situation) and finally it culminated in a timid Haris who was more interested in celebrating his century than actually considering the runs might not be enough.

The fact Pakistan strolled to the total and lulled along most of the innings was based on the outdated philosophy that if we score 250 or 260 runs, we have more than enough to win against a meek Australia.

But in those days we had the famous chuckers in the form of Hafeez, Ajmal and the mercurial Afridi to bowl 30 overs of spin to choke the opposition.

When you had Shah and Imad as your spinners, 280 was going to be an average proposition for any team worth its weight and Australia cantered in the end.

What does that teach us?

It does not matter what the final total is, but the manner of your approach towards the game and not pre-deciding what you can get, or your bowling can defend.

The aim should be to maximize your batting to reach 300 plus every game, until proven otherwise that its unlikely a 300 pitch.

Hope Pakistan learns it lesson and are not lackadaisical in the remaining games.

 

[a_tahir]

Let's be realistic here. It's obvious they're playing for a spot in the wc squad.

 

[Dr_Bassim]

Let's be realistic here. It's obvious they're playing for a spot in the wc squad.

Wasn't Umar Akmal also playing for a WC spot?

 

[Boycottisno2]

with Shah as lead spinner what did you expect

 

[The_Odd_One]

280 will be chased by most teams 8 out of 10 times.

 

[Tyler Durden]

No score is a good score against this average team! India chased down 240 with ease in 40 overs & and 164 in 29 overs against the full strength attack of Amir, Shaheen, Shinwari, Shadab and Faheem just few months ago on the similar wickets in Asia Cup! This majestic bowling unit picked only 2 wickets in 2 matches and looks like it’s the repeat story today! Pakistan ODI team is simply not good enough no matter if it’s their A team or B or C team!

 

[aloo paratha]

Bowling was just trash. Amir and Yasir are liabilities. If we had Hasan, Afridi and Junaid/Hasnain as our pacers, we would've defended this 9 times out of 10.

 

[aloo paratha]

Bowling was just trash. Amir and Yasir are liabilities. If we had Hasan, Afridi and Junaid/Hasnain as our pacers, we would've defended this 9 times out of 10.

Also, fielding was pretty poor today.

 

[BakuGM]

Pitch was a road so no test for the batsman.... Can't pick any player (batsman or bowler) based on the results on these pitches....

 

[Boycottisno2]

this is just prep and trying out players for the wc..... i wont take notice of the results....

 

[Prince of Pakistan]

Aus would have even chased down 350 here with the batting they had coming. Pak put no pressure got no wickets while Finch and Marsh were tuk tuking or taking singles.

The only option for Pak left is chasing scores. If our bowling is this pathetic then it's all to the batsmen to up the tempo and compete with the world.

 

[Chief Destroyer]

It's a good enough score with our main team. Pakistan played three bowlers who are no threat in this format because they are stupid and learn slowly.

 

[shaz619]

It's a good enough score with our main team. Pakistan played three bowlers who are no threat in this format because they are stupid and learn slowly.

It's a disgraceful total in this day and age regardless of the wicket when you reach the end of your innings with 5 damn wickets in hand; that too when you have a cowardly Amir leading the bowling attack, do we need to bring out Mazhar Majheed in a sort of Chacha Cricket role to motivate him with the chunky change ? With a coward like Amir you always need more runs behind you

 

[a_tahir]

Wasn't Umar Akmal also playing for a WC spot?

His role is to attack. If he'd played defensively, his objective would have not been achieved. He had to attack.

 

[The_Odd_One]

Bowling was just trash. Amir and Yasir are liabilities. If we had Hasan, Afridi and Junaid/Hasnain as our pacers, we would've defended this 9 times out of 10.

Shaheen has not even played 10 ODIs and Hasnain is yet to debut.

 

[Chief Destroyer]

It's a disgraceful total in this day and age regardless of the wicket when you reach the end of your innings with 5 damn wickets in hand; that too when you have a cowardly Amir leading the bowling attack, do we need to bring out Mazhar Majheed in a sort of Chacha Cricket role to motivate him with the chunky change ? With a coward like Amir you always need more runs behind you

It's a solid total in UAE. Our bowling was toothless as most expected. This is why we needed Hasnain, Rauf and Gohar in the squad. They are attacking bowlers and are a threat in the middle overs.

 

[Dr_Bassim]

It's a good enough score with our main team. Pakistan played three bowlers who are no threat in this format because they are stupid and learn slowly.

On that front, half of Australian team is not playing.

Cummins, Warner, Smith, Starc, Hazlewood etc.

You could argue if they were playing, Pakistan wouldn't even have touched 250.

 

[a_tahir]

Shaheen has not even played 10 ODIs and Hasnain is yet to debut.

We restricted nz to 200 even after them playing the full 50 overs with the bowling attack stated above.

He's correct. 9/10 times we would have defended this.

 

[Amjid Javed]

Let's be realistic here. It's obvious they're playing for a spot in the wc squad.

That was evident with way most batsmen played, only umar seemed to play in a manner a batsmen should be playing in current ODI era.

 

[Chief Destroyer]

On that front, half of Australian team is not playing.

Cummins, Warner, Smith, Starc, Hazlewood etc.

You could argue if they were playing, Pakistan wouldn't even have touched 250.

Yeah, you can but I would argue that we don't need our main bowlers. Even Hasnain, Rauf and Gohar would've done the job. They have good enough control to bowl in the middle overs even though they're inexperienced.

 

[hadi123]

Honestly speaking, I couldn't watch the match as I had a Uni assignment to submit today but I was following the game, and at half time I felt Pakistan should be able to defend it, however, this is one of our weaker bowling line ups in recent times. But I think in UAE, it is not that common for big scores to be chased down compared to in India where even 320 is below par. I heard our bowling was just not good enough today, think they deserve the blame more than the batsmen

 

[The_Odd_One]

We restricted nz to 200 even after them playing the full 50 overs with the bowling attack stated above.

He's correct. 9/10 times we would have defended this.

Flukes do not happen very often.

 

[Abdullah]

Honestly speaking, I couldn't watch the match as I had a Uni assignment to submit today but I was following the game, and at half time I felt Pakistan should be able to defend it, however, this is one of our weaker bowling line ups in recent times. But I think in UAE, it is not that common for big scores to be chased down compared to in India where even 320 is below par. I heard our bowling was just not good enough today, think they deserve the blame more than the batsmen

285 is highest score ever chased in Sharjah I believe

 

[Kroll]

But but but 280 is a "very difficult total" to chase in the UAE.

 

[aloo paratha]

Shaheen has not even played 10 ODIs and Hasnain is yet to debut.

Shaheen has played 10 ODIs (majority of them against top sides) and averages 19.4 with the ball...

 

[a_tahir]

But but but 280 is a "very difficult total" to chase in the UAE.

You're not going to let it go are u??
Keep in mind that this is the second highest score chased on this ground and also keep in mind that the most no. of matches have been played on this ground too.

 

[hadi123]

285 is highest score ever chased in Sharjah I believe

Exactly my point. And the ease in which Australia chased it down is worrying

 

[a_tahir]

Shaheen has played 10 ODIs (majority of them against top sides) and averages 19.4 with the ball...

Out of his 10, 8 have been against the top sides.

3 nz 4 sa 1 ind

 

[a_tahir]

Exactly my point. And the ease in which Australia chased it down is worrying

Annoying too

 

[aloo paratha]

Out of his 10, 8 have been against the top sides.

3 nz 4 sa 1 ind

Yes, that is why I said majority.

 

[a_tahir]

Yes, that is why I said majority.

Never said u were wrong. Just gave some extra info.

 

[aloo paratha]

Yeah, you can but I would argue that we don't need our main bowlers. Even Hasnain, Rauf and Gohar would've done the job. They have good enough control to bowl in the middle overs even though they're inexperienced.

Baffles me how Hasnain and Junaid sat on the bench today...

 

[The_Odd_One]

Shaheen has played 10 ODIs (majority of them against top sides) and averages 19.4 with the ball...

10 ODIs was not meant to be taken literally. Besides Usman averages 17 and he's nothing special. With such small sample sizes, you cannot make a claim that we would have defended 280 9 out of 10 times.

 

[aloo paratha]

Never said u were wrong. Just gave some extra info.

I never said you were wrong either. Peace brother!

 

[shaz619]

It's a solid total in UAE. Our bowling was toothless as most expected. This is why we needed Hasnain, Rauf and Gohar in the squad. They are attacking bowlers and are a threat in the middle overs.

Australia barely broke a sweat mate and coasted to victory, 300+ should have been the bare minimum given our start but we just didn't get out of 2nd gear; this is a bit of a concern heading to the WC, we need to show more intent basically and put the team before our averages. It says something when a returning Umar Akmal was the best batsman of the innings.....that is big time baysti bro

 

[Chief Destroyer]

Australia barely broke a sweat mate and coasted to victory, 300+ should have been the bare minimum given our start but we just didn't get out of 2nd gear; this is a bit of a concern heading to the WC, we need to show more intent basically and put the team before our averages. It says something when a returning Umar Akmal was the best batsman of the innings.....that is big time baysti bro

Don't worry too much. Our team is in a pretty good position. We just need someone like Hasnain to take his opportunity and hope Zafar gets selected.

 

[aloo paratha]

10 ODIs was not meant to be taken literally. Besides Usman averages 17 and he's nothing special. With such small sample sizes, you cannot make a claim that we would have defended 280 9 out of 10 times.

Anybody with half a brain can see that Shinwari and Shaheen are nowhere close to each other.

18 of Shinwari's 23 wickets have come against either Sri Lanka, Zimbabwe, or Hong Kong. Whereas Shaheen has taken 15 of his 19 wickets against New Zealand and South Africa. The other 4 wickets were taken against Afghanistan and Bangladesh (decent side), 2 in each game.

Forget stats, you can just watch them bowling and see that the difference between them is night and day.

 

[topspin]

At the halfway mark I said Pakistan were 20 runs short, which I still stand by, but given Pakistan has one of the worst spin attacks in world cricket (as there isn't a single potent wicket taking spinner) the margin of defeat we saw today will become a regular recurrence (especially in Asia) unless the spin stock crisis isn't addressed.

Ever since ICC brought a clampdown on suspect actions, Pakistan has yet to find one decent right arm off spinner to replace the likes of Ajmal and Hafeez (with the old action) as attacking and defensive spin options respectively. The lefties and wrist spinners have been largely ordinary.

 

[The_Odd_One]

Anybody with half a brain can see that Shinwari and Shaheen are nowhere close to each other.

18 of Shinwari's 23 wickets have come against either Sri Lanka, Zimbabwe, or Hong Kong. Whereas Shaheen has taken 15 of his 19 wickets against New Zealand and South Africa. The other 4 wickets were taken against Afghanistan and Bangladesh (decent side), 2 in each game.

Forget stats, you can just watch them bowling and see that the difference between them is night and day.

I know all of this, no need to iterate the obvious. The point was that with a small sample size, you cannot make a claim that these bowlers would have defended 280 9 out of 10 times.

 

[nextover666666]

No score is a good score against this average team! India chased down 240 with ease in 40 overs & and 164 in 29 overs against the full strength attack of Amir, Shaheen, Shinwari, Shadab and Faheem just few months ago on the similar wickets in Asia Cup! This majestic bowling unit picked only 2 wickets in 2 matches and looks like it’s the repeat story today! Pakistan ODI team is simply not good enough no matter if it’s their A team or B or C team!

Australian B side smashed your mighty India so I suggest you keep quiet

 

[aloo paratha]

I know all of this, no need to iterate the obvious. The point was that with a small sample size, you cannot make a claim that these bowlers would have defended 280 9 out of 10 times.

You know all of this yet you still can't differentiate between Shinwari's and Shaheen's abilities? Forget sample size, just watch them play; as i stated above, the difference is night and day.

 

[The_Odd_One]

You know all of this yet you still can't differentiate between Shinwari's and Shaheen's abilities? Forget sample size, just watch them play; as i stated above, the difference is night and day.

Ok, I get it. Shaheen is the second coming of Starc based on the 10-12 ODIs he has played so far.

 

[Green Patriot]

Our bowling sucked.

Plain and simple.

 

[aloo paratha]

Ok, I get it. Shaheen is the second coming of Starc based on the 10-12 ODIs he has played so far.

Damn can you read? I said that Sheheen is much better than Shinwari. I didn't even say Starc's name.

I know you're hurting, because you really tried to equate Shaheen and Shinwari to suit your agenda, and clearly failed.

 

[The_Odd_One]

Damn can you read? I said that Sheheen is much better than Shinwari. I didn't even say Starc's name.

I know you're hurting, because you really tried to equate Shaheen and Shinwari to suit your agenda, and clearly failed.

I can and I also firmly believe that Pakistan defending 280 9 out of 10 times with Shaheen is nothing but delusional.

 

[aloo paratha]

I can and I also firmly believe that Pakistan defending 280 9 out of 10 times with Shaheen is nothing but delusional.

Doesn't look like you can, maybe you can read but just can't comprehend what is written. I didn't say just Shaheen, I said Shaheen, Hasan and Junaid or Hasnain. You can also add Shadab to that list. He may not be great, but he is definitely better than Yasir.

 

[Josh]

Dew + Bad bowling of Yasir , Amir + Australia have been gritty in last few matches.

 

[Amjid Javed]

280 will be chased by most teams 8 out of 10 times.

2 times it wouldnt be chased would be when pskistan would chase.

 

[The_Odd_One]

Doesn't look like you can, maybe you can read but just can't comprehend what is written. I didn't say just Shaheen, I said Shaheen, Hasan and Junaid or Hasnain. You can also add Shadab to that list. He may not be great, but he is definitely better than Yasir.

Shaheen has not played 10-12 ODIs yet.
Hassan averages 35+ since the start of 2018.
When was the last time Junaid even played an ODI?
Hasnain is yet to debut.
Shadab averages 40+ against non-minnow teams.

Yet, they would have defended 280 9 out of 10 times.

 

[Amjid Javed]

Most realists on PP were all thinking we were 30-40 runs short at half way point of game and that fact was a proven point.

 

[aloo paratha]

Shaheen has not played 10-12 ODIs yet.
Hassan averages 35+ since the start of 2018.
When was the last time Junaid even played an ODI?
Hasnain is yet to debut.
Shadab averages 40+ against non-minnow teams.

Yet, they would have defended 280 9 out of 10 times.

So 10-12 ODIs is not enough to call Shaheen a good bowler, but 15ish ODIs since 2018 is enough to prove that Hasan is a bad bowler.
Wah kya baat hai.

 

[The_Odd_One]

So 10-12 ODIs is not enough to call Shaheen a good bowler, but 15ish ODIs since 2018 is enough to prove that Hasan is a bad bowler.
Wah kya baat hai.

Hassan is not a bad bowler but he is not what he appeared to be initially. Besides, Hassan has a much larger sample size than Shaheen.

 

[Ilan Bluestone]

Too many accumulators and not enough power hitters is the problem.

This is why if you bring Umar, open with him, or bring him low. Either he gives you a super hot start, or he ends it off with a bang. He is not a middle of the innings player. He always wants to play shots, and gives up 2-3 chances no matter what the circumstance. Give him a powerplay to start the match and he will potentially get away from those chances he gives away.

I mean personally I don't think he belongs, but if you will bring him, at least use him in a way that could maximize what he brings to the table. We all know he isn't a player who will get tons on tons, simply doesn't have that type of patience or mental fortitude.

Asif Ali is a hack, but as a 5-6 down, could be a decent add. We simply do not have those power hitters in this specific lineup.

Harris is fine, as is Babar, but problem is they are accumulators and don't really have that next gear, which is a problem in a team with Imam in it as well as Malik, though Malik has that turn on ability.

With a tailender in our captain (typical captaincy that is), you're essentially batting one short as it is, so you need to maximize what you have.

Fakhar, despite his hack tendencies (still was decent in SA) is required.

Your batsmen may not be the technically best batsmen in the country, there has to be a good blend of accumulators and power hitters.

Wasim is solid, Faheem is not. Faheem to me is neither a batsmen or a bowler. It's pretty appalling that he is on the team in all honesty. There must be a better all-rounder. He is mediocre with ball and bat. I would rather add a pinch hitter than have him at all, as he is no better than Hasan Ali with a bat, and no where near as good with the ball.

We aren't a top team, but we aren't using the talent we do have in the right way, and our amalgamation of talent is all wrong in terms of recipe for success.

We need to be a bit more brave and try what we haven't. Again, we aren't a World Cup team, but we could give them the best chance to succeed at least.

Too many stay at the crease players, not enough increase the RR players. Harris may be more talented than say Asif Ali (I say this as a placeholder, there are probably better power hitters who I don't know about in Pakistan), but you're likely to lose a match with Harris, Babar and Imam as all of them are likely to score runs, but at a RR that leads to sub 300 scores. We need to put the right combination together, and we constantly over or under-compensate.

 

[waqar goraya]

280 was a very competitive score but this bowling attack lacks penetration and quality. Also, despite a hundred I'm not impressed with Haris's chasing the game strategy. He looks an anchor and will rely on other impact players like Fakhar for healthy run rate. Hopefully, Babar will be back and in great form to anchor Pakistan innings. That's why i want Haris to be a little more proactive from now on.

Pakistan have rested way too many players. I guess it is too late to consider Yasir Shah for limited over cricket.

 

[waqar goraya]

Too many accumulators and not enough power hitters is the problem.

This is why if you bring Umar, open with him, or bring him low. Either he gives you a super hot start, or he ends it off with a bang. He is not a middle of the innings player. He always wants to play shots, and gives up 2-3 chances no matter what the circumstance. Give him a powerplay to start the match and he will potentially get away from those chances he gives away.

I mean personally I don't think he belongs, but if you will bring him, at least use him in a way that could maximize what he brings to the table. We all know he isn't a player who will get tons on tons, simply doesn't have that type of patience or mental fortitude.

Asif Ali is a hack, but as a 5-6 down, could be a decent add. We simply do not have those power hitters in this specific lineup.

Harris is fine, as is Babar, but problem is they are accumulators and don't really have that next gear, which is a problem in a team with Imam in it as well as Malik, though Malik has that turn on ability.

With a tailender in our captain (typical captaincy that is), you're essentially batting one short as it is, so you need to maximize what you have.

Fakhar, despite his hack tendencies (still was decent in SA) is required.

Your batsmen may not be the technically best batsmen in the country, there has to be a good blend of accumulators and power hitters.

Wasim is solid, Faheem is not. Faheem to me is neither a batsmen or a bowler. It's pretty appalling that he is on the team in all honesty. There must be a better all-rounder. He is mediocre with ball and bat. I would rather add a pinch hitter than have him at all, as he is no better than Hasan Ali with a bat, and no where near as good with the ball.

We aren't a top team, but we aren't using the talent we do have in the right way, and our amalgamation of talent is all wrong in terms of recipe for success.

We need to be a bit more brave and try what we haven't. Again, we aren't a World Cup team, but we could give them the best chance to succeed at least.

Too many stay at the crease players, not enough increase the RR players. Harris may be more talented than say Asif Ali (I say this as a placeholder, there are probably better power hitters who I don't know about in Pakistan), but you're likely to lose a match with Harris, Babar and Imam as all of them are likely to score runs, but at a RR that leads to sub 300 scores. We need to put the right combination together, and we constantly over or under-compensate.

I have same opinion almost on all of your arguments. But Malik has not scored a 50 in 10 matches!

And Yes Umar Akmal does not justify number 4 position. He never plays on merit or according to the situation. He takes too many chances for a proper middle order batsman. That's why he is more suited to power play role.
But if it's Asif Ali that you have to offer then i would take Umar Akmal every day.
I feel he has been given the freedom to show his worth and determination at 4. And if he shows his utility he will bat at 5/6 once Babar comes back at number 3!

 

[Ilan Bluestone]

I have same opinion almost on all of your arguments. But Malik has not scored a 50 in 10 matches!

And Yes Umar Akmal does not justify number 4 position. He never plays on merit or according to the situation. He takes too many chances for a proper middle order batsman. That's why he is more suited to power play role.
But if it's Asif Ali that you have to offer then i would take Umar Akmal every day.
I feel he has been given the freedom to show his worth and determination at 4. And if he shows his utility he will bat at 5/6 once Babar comes back at number 3!

I am not too sold on Malik either, he does have the power ability, but seems kind of lost ATM, so I have no problem with his removal.

This odd juxtaposition for the need of seniors and success is odd, as the senior has a mediocre history that got him to be a senior, so his belonging is confusing.

 

[Hasan123]

I think Australia would have chased 300 down against this attack. They could play slower chasing 280 and I think they intentionally did this. If they had to up the scoring Finch showed he could do that.

 

[Bilal7]

It was a good score, Pakistan simply did not bowl well. I think Imad Wasim's awful first over ruined things.

 

[Chokli]

It's a disgraceful total in this day and age regardless of the wicket when you reach the end of your innings with 5 damn wickets in hand; that too when you have a cowardly Amir leading the bowling attack, do we need to bring out Mazhar Majheed in a sort of Chacha Cricket role to motivate him with the chunky change ? With a coward like Amir you always need more runs behind you

lol that is hilarious

 

[Zhasan]

Who cares, Pakistan has finally found a batsman of Tendulkar's caliber in Haris Sohail. It's been a long time coming. Here is to 99 more inconsequential hundreds in losing causes.

 

[Savak]

280 is a very good total in the UAE. Pakistan cannot bat better than this 9 times out of 10, our bowlers single handedly lost the game especially that imposter over rated Amir. Australians are too professional an outfit to come unprepared to the UAE.

Winning and Losing is part of the game, this was a new look side and the biggest positive for me was Haris Sohail's knock and Umar Akmal showing good form.

But our bowlers are incredibly over rated, they have shown zero improvement in their game and just treat playing for Pakistan as a day to day job rather than having the personal ambition to become better bowlers

 

[ask_analyse_act]

Mickey was very happy when the total reached 270. 280 was a winning total here in Sharjah especially against SENA teams if you have spinners of int’l class , not Imad and Yasir.

They sent faheem up the order to have game time to improve batting which is clearly an experiment. They are using this series to test their bench strength and guys who can stand up against the world champions.

To get a hundred against world champs coming back from injury is a remarkable achievement. Good to see Shan and UA among they are pinning their hopes on these three to be the replacements for Hafeez , Malik and even if fakhar have a bad WC or for any out of form batsman which is highly possible during the long CWC.



Shouldn’t take notice of the results as long as the experiments are done and to be worthy of from this series.. I hope Amir hits some form in this series, otherwise he will be the last name in the sheet to the WC squad

 

[Dr_Bassim]

Who cares, Pakistan has finally found a batsman of Tendulkar's caliber in Haris Sohail. It's been a long time coming. Here is to 99 more inconsequential hundreds in losing causes.

Actually Tendulkar has 53 winning 100's out of 100 which means a percentage of 53 percent.

That's not too shabby considering the bowling attack India had for most of the early part of his career.

And the percentage of losses when Tendulkar scored a century was 25 percent.

Tendulkar has a lower century winning percentage in tests @ 38 percent and that makes sense because India never had the bowlers to take 20 wickets in a Test match.

Tendulkar has a century winning percentage of 70 percent in ODI's which is amazing for any batsmen.

People who saw Tendulkar's last century against Bangladesh have wrong assumptions of Tendulkar and false equivalate it to a selfish batsmen. Only his last century was a selfish knock to an extent.

The Tendulkar of yore would have never batted like Haris or even close to like him.

 

[CricketAnalyst]

Actually Tendulkar has 53 winning 100's out of 100 which means a percentage of 53 percent.

That's not too shabby considering the bowling attack India had for most of the early part of his career.

And the percentage of losses when Tendulkar scored a century was 25 percent.

Tendulkar has a lower century winning percentage in tests @ 38 percent and that makes sense because India never had the bowlers to take 20 wickets in a Test match.

Tendulkar has a century winning percentage of 70 percent in ODI's which is amazing for any batsmen.

People who saw Tendulkar's last century against Bangladesh have wrong assumptions of Tendulkar and false equivalate it to a selfish batsmen. Only his last century was a selfish knock to an extent.

The Tendulkar of yore would have never batted like Haris or even close to like him.

70% of wins given a century isn't very big at all.

Vast majority of players would have a better record.

Also, granular analysis clearly shows a lot of those losses were actually his fault, and many of those centuries were negative contributions, actually worse than first ball ducks.

 

[Dr_Bassim]

70% of wins given a century isn't very big at all.

Vast majority of players would have a better record.

Also, granular analysis clearly shows a lot of those losses were actually his fault, and many of those centuries were negative contributions, actually worse than first ball ducks.

Two things.

For a team that depended entirely on Tendulkar for a greater part of the career, that actually is a huge amount.

And number 2, Tendulkar played in an era when 250-280 were considered amazing scores, so he paced himself accordingly.

I am sure the Tendulkar of today would have adapted to higher scores as he had the ability to adapt over 3 generations.

Also, if you are going to do such dissections for every batsmen, you might find out Jayasuriya and Afridi were the best batsmen ever in cricket.

 

[JibranAnsari]

In my opinion , haris sohail and babar azam are good for first 35 overs and then they become liabilities. They both lack power game. I hope dearly that hafeez gets fit before the world cup because he is our best bet to score more than 100 runs in the last 12 overs.

Imam
Fakhar
Babar
Haris/malik
Hafeez
Sarfraz
Imad
Faheem
Hassan
Amir
Shaheen

 

[Barragan]

280 may have been below a good score, but the bowling looked toothless and no sign of picking up a wicket.

Honestly speaking, it could have easily been a 10 wicket loss - that's how bad the bowling was.

 

[jeeteshssaxena]

Pakistan made 280 without babar and fakhar and that too in UAE ,what more can anyone ask for?
Ppers have a habit of blaming batting even if bowling fails completely.

 

[Hawkeye]

It's a solid total in UAE.

Lol no. It's a solid total if made in Dubai or Abu Dhabi.

This was an excellent batting track. Our batsmen had many opportunities to show intent and score positively.

But Imaam and Shaan sucked out all the momentum at the top. Haris did fine, but he didn't show intent when he had several chances to do so.

Only Umar Akmal batted like a modern ODI batsman.

Batting was to blame as much as bowling here. OK, not equal blame but 30-40%.

 

[Kroll]

It's not a good score in any ODI when you play the top sides. Aussies can cake walk a score of 280.

 

[Amjid Javed]

280 might have been a good score in 1989 its not even par in 2019

 

[Barragan]

Pak need a minimum of 3 batsmen with the ability to clear the boundary against pacers.

In this modern era, 330 is the norm and you need batsmen who can can get you to that total.

Pak play 1 or 2 aggressive batsmen, but that is simply not enough and if one or both fail, then Pak end up with a old school total of 270-290, which is not good enough.

The management needs to identify those 3 big hitting batsmen and back them fully, even if they fail a few times.

 

[xricket]

280 is as good a score as it can get. Our bowlers should have been able to defend it, or have a plan to give them a competition, but seems like our bowling coach is too busy enjoying free trip to foreign tours

 

[Usman]

It was telling at the toss when Malik was asked if the team scored 20-30 too few in the last game. Malik said NO - he said 280 was a good score in Sharjah but Finch had a good day.

That mentality was evident during overs 35-50 when there was literally no urgency at all from Malik and Rizwaan.

That said, you can score 400 and it wouldn't be enough when you field toothless bowlers like Yasir Shah.

What these two games have taught us is just how much we've come to rely on the likes of Hassan Ali, Shaeen Sha Afridi and Shadab Khan.

 

[Muhammad Saad]

These are 350+ pitches and we have equally abysmal in both batting and bowling.

 

[Muhammad Saad]

Abbas and Yasir are clearly horrible in shorter format and atleast inzi knowing that now.

 

[MenInG]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-partner="tweetdeck"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Pakistan versus Australia last 12 ODIs:<br><br>Lost 11<br>Won 1<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/PAKvAUS?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#PAKvAUS</a></p>— Saj Sadiq (@Saj_PakPassion) <a href="https://twitter.com/Saj_PakPassion/status/1109889062582800384?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 24, 2019</a></blockquote>
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