Why Abhishek Sharma needs to be drafted into the ODI and Test squad?

[mominsaigol]

Credit where credit is due. I am in love with Travis Head as a player and Abhi reminds me of him.

Would love to see him in all formats. He can be a very solid odi opener and No 6/7 in test for India.

He isn't a hack by any means and is a proper batsmen.

 

[Mamoon]

He is a tullaybaaz who will get exposed in the longer formats. India have enough proper batsmen for Tests and ODIs.

 

[Major]

In Odis and Test India has much better batters like Jagadeesan and Padikal.

Even those Apparjith and Indrajith brothers are very good but they are not given a chance,

I think ABhishke is way behind in the pecking order of test and odi. He is a very good player, but quite behind. However, Gambhir is a kind of coach that can make aggressive t20 batters into test batters aswell

 

[DTrump]

No. There is no room in the Test side.
Even in Odi's i do not see it.

Yashasvi, Pant, Sudharsan and Tilak are ahead of him. There is no room.

He is 24 so has time on his side.
Needs massive improvements

 

[shamaan]

Possibly in odis but not in tests.

 

[pillionrider]

He is a tullaybaaz who will get exposed in the longer formats. India have enough proper batsmen for Tests and ODIs.

It's possible he may never be even attempted in the longer formats and be content going down as a T20 great. That doesn't make him a slogger, because he certainly isn't one.

 

[RidiculousMan]

Let him play. Still very young in International Cricket.

There will be ups and downs. But let him play in T20s for now. He can come into One days if he can compete with his peers.

Test Cricket is a whole different gravy.

 

[BlackstoneRock]

Hope he goes to Australia later and we will see what he is made of then

 

[sweep_shot]

Let him play. Still very young in International Cricket.

There will be ups and downs. But let him play in T20s for now. He can come into One days if he can compete with his peers.

Test Cricket is a whole different gravy.

I think India can try him in Test against some weak sides. Maybe he can bat in the middle order as opening positions are booked (Jaiswal and Gill).

 

[BlackstoneRock]

I think India can try him in Test against some weak sides. Maybe he can bat in the middle order as opening positions are booked (Jaiswal and Gill).

Middle order may not suit him .. he is an upgraded version of sehwag and he is very clear about that and he has that mindset and he should always open in any format if considered

 

[hoshiarpurexpress]

The only role possible for him in ODI would be a dasher at 6-7 and he needs to work a bit more on his bowling. He did start as an Left arm allrounder at age group level. A like to like replacement for Axar in ODIs after 6-8 years.

 

[sweep_shot]

Middle order may not suit him .. he is an upgraded version of sehwag and he is very clear about that and he has that mindset and he should always open in any format if considered

I think Abhishek is much better than Sehwag. Sehwag had poor footwork. Also, Sehwag wasn't a big guy like Abhishek. Sehwag was all about timing while Abhishek is all about raw power.

 

[hoshiarpurexpress]

Yuvraj needs to drill him a bit more and make him an invaluable all-rounder in LOI format. Test Cricket, India has too many options.

 

[GoogleToggle]

Tilak is the one who should be playing all formats
FC average of 52 and did really well in country cricket just recently.

Ni harm in trying although no guarantee as even LOI legend like Bevan couldnt crack tests.

 

[GoogleToggle]

The only role possible for him in ODI would be a dasher at 6-7 and he needs to work a bit more on his bowling. He did start as an Left arm allrounder at age group level. A like to like replacement for Axar in ODIs after 6-8 years.

Don't think late middle order will work for him with one extra fielder in the last 10 overs. If he plays he has to be an opener but then Rohit also plays the same way these days so both cant open together

 

[BlackstoneRock]

I think Abhishek is much better than Sehwag. Sehwag had poor footwork. Also, Sehwag wasn't a big guy like Abhishek. Sehwag was all about timing while Abhishek is all about raw power.

Exactly

 

[MP2011]

Don't think late middle order will work for him with one extra fielder in the last 10 overs. If he plays he has to be an opener but then Rohit also plays the same way these days so both cant open together

Rohit's time is up. I mean even Abhishek can hit those pretty 20s and 30s at a better strike than what Rohit has been doing mostly in ODIs.

 

[AamchiMumbaikar]

Needs to prove more in domestic to give a Test call up.

 

[Nikhil_cric]

Needs to cut down his attacking shot percentage to be successful in ODIs

Might seem like a minor thing. But many have struggled to transition - Salt, Finn, Short etc.

 

[mominsaigol]

Needs to cut down his attacking shot percentage to be successful in ODIs

Might seem like a minor thing. But many have struggled to transition - Salt, Finn, Short etc.

Bro can I ask you a question?

Why do you have cut down on attacking shots to be successful in odi? Ik its a different format but typically I'd assume an attacking player cam flourish in both formats but it rarely happens.

Very few like sehwag, Warner and others have done it.

Travis Head has also done it but he's hit and miss.

 

[ameer219]

Abhishek is a good batsman. But the thing is, India has so many good batsman, they have to keep proving themselves to remain in the team. And the margin of error is reduced. Shaw comes to mind when I think about this.

 

[Nikhil_cric]

Bro can I ask you a question?

Why do you have cut down on attacking shots to be successful in odi? Ik its a different format but typically I'd assume an attacking player cam flourish in both formats but it rarely happens.

Very few like sehwag, Warner and others have done it.

Travis Head has also done it but he's hit and miss.

I'm not sure of the exact numbers. But you can't sustainably bat as ODI opener if your attacking shot percentage is above 60% . Roy and Bairstow even were in that 55-60 range at their peaks


Phil Salt in his ODI career was near the 75 % mark and there was no difference from his T20I shot percentage.

In ODIs , there's sometimes more grass upfront to ensure that the pitch holds for a 100 overs and also there are 2 kookaburra balls which will swing for twice as long as in a typical T20.

So, your false shots are higher.

Besides , a score of 32(11) is often great for a T20 opener because it gives you huge momentum in a 20 over innings.

Such a score can backfire in ODIs because you get out too early and expose the middle order anchor batsmen like Root too early and your entire lineup will suffer

 

[Red-Indian]

Bro can I ask you a question?

Why do you have cut down on attacking shots to be successful in odi? Ik its a different format but typically I'd assume an attacking player cam flourish in both formats but it rarely happens.

Very few like sehwag, Warner and others have done it.

Travis Head has also done it but he's hit and miss.

I think the difference for me is that a 15 ball 30 is excellent and often game-changing in a T20. It can be irrelevant in an ODI.

From a quick look at Abhishek's statistics, the 15 ball 30 is his default innings. Unless he's able to show enough judgement and control to improve that, it would be pointless to play him as an opener over the likes of Gill, Rohit and Jaiswal who have already shown they know how to pace an ODI innings from the opener slot.

As far as Tests are concerned, his First-class average of 30 does not even qualify him for the Irani trophy. Anybody below 40 should not be in consideration for India irrespective of promise and strike rate.

 

[mominsaigol]

I'm not sure of the exact numbers. But you can't sustainably bat as ODI opener if your attacking shot percentage is above 60% . Roy and Bairstow even were in that 55-60 range at their peaks


Phil Salt in his ODI career was near the 75 % mark and there was no difference from his T20I shot percentage.

In ODIs , there's sometimes more grass upfront to ensure that the pitch holds for a 100 overs and also there are 2 kookaburra balls which will swing for twice as long as in a typical T20.

So, your false shots are higher.

Besides , a score of 32(11) is often great for a T20 opener because it gives you huge momentum in a 20 over innings.

Such a score can backfire in ODIs because you get out too early and expose the middle order anchor batsmen like Root too early and your entire lineup will suffer

Thanks for explaining brother. Much Appreciated.

 

[mominsaigol]

I think the difference for me is that a 15 ball 30 is excellent and often game-changing in a T20. It can be irrelevant in an ODI.

From a quick look at Abhishek's statistics, the 15 ball 30 is his default innings. Unless he's able to show enough judgement and control to improve that, it would be pointless to play him as an opener over the likes of Gill, Rohit and Jaiswal who have already shown they know how to pace an ODI innings from the opener slot.

As far as Tests are concerned, his First-class average of 30 does not even qualify him for the Irani trophy. Anybody below 40 should not be in consideration for India irrespective of promise and strike rate.

Fair enough. Thanks for explaining.

 

[Red-Indian]

Fair enough. Thanks for explaining.

The more I think about it, with ODI scores trending upwards of 320 nowadays, you need each of the top 6 to at least average 45 (50 is better) and 7-8 can get away with a high strike rate 30 each.

If you're going to play a high strike rate 30 average opener, you'll need a real high quality all-rounder at 7 who can get you 45. Not many of those around. Even Hardik who's probably one of the best, only averages low 30s.

I do have to say Abhishek's T20 international average getting into the high 30s is promising. Maybe he has it in him to temper his game for ODIs like Travis Head - trade strike rate for consistency. Or maybe not - maybe he's just built for a high risk, high impact game. I don't think it's worth taking the risk when we have an embarrassment of riches in the ODI opener slot. Why ruin an excellent T20 player?

 

[Sachin fan]

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From a quick look at Abhishek's statistics, the 15 ball 30 is his default innings.

This is pure biasedness. He has 3 50s and 2 100s in just 24 matches, that's one 50+ score in every 5 match

Thats unreal consistency which even most tuk tuk batsmen don't show.

Just because he is an attacking player you are now spreading lies about his consistency.

 

[Devadwal]

Test - No way ,He is not a test Calibre player.

Odi - Maybe but need to Play with more responsibility. He can't Play attacking shots on every balls in ODI Cricket.

Sometimes conditions need to be respected instead going After every balls.

As of now he should stick to T20 cricket only.

 

[globetrotter]

Abhishek Sharma in ODI is ok, but if he has to be in Teat, then 5 days Test match should be reduce to 2 days test match

 

[Sachin fan]

Test - No way ,He is not a test Calibre player.

People were saying same thing about Pant

 

[Devadwal]

People were saying same thing about Pant

Only Clown . Pant was / is always a test player. In- fact Test is his best format

 

[harshjoshi87]

Abhishek shouldn't be drafted in the test team. Maybe next season after the T20 World Cup & the IPL. India are playing 2 WTC test matches each vs SL in SL & NZ in NZ next year, Abhishek should be selected then but with KL & Jaiswal, it's difficult to break in the test team atm.

 

[DeadlyVenom]

India do not usually fall into the trap of a player being good in one format automatically being drafted in other.

It is an option for teams with weak test sides like Pakistan and WIndies - let's get a hitter in and see what happens. But for stronger sides it's not needed.

Australia seem to have gone down this route by drafting useless players like Konstas into the rest side. The formats are very different and if you dont respect the differences you will usually come up short.

 

[IAJ]

Unlike Pakistan, India has a proper system and structure in place, which they consistently follow. That’s one of the many reasons behind their success. This original post (no personal attack intended, bro) is a good example of the mainstream mindset in Pakistan. The selectors have been doing this for decades—choosing players for Test cricket based on performances in shorter formats, and vice versa.

Regarding Abhishek, bhai us say bartan dulhao ya rickshaw chalao, who cares

 

[Cryin Out Loud]

As clean a striker of the ball as I’ve seen in a while. But his FC record is mediocre (or below) at best, and his List A performance interesting only because of that strike rate.

Definitely not Test material as of now, and ODIs maybe (at best) give him a few ‘feel good’ chances to see what he can do.

 

[Red-Indian]

This is pure biasedness. He has 3 50s and 2 100s in just 24 matches, that's one 50+ score in every 5 match

Thats unreal consistency which even most tuk tuk batsmen don't show.

Just because he is an attacking player you are now spreading lies about his consistency.

Dude...there's no point getting aggressive about it

His T20I Average is 37 with a Strike rate of ~200
His T20I Median Score is 30 off 17 balls
His T20 Average is 31 with a Strike rate of ~170 (I'm sure it'll look better if I were to restrict to the last few seasons)
It'll be a pain getting to his T20 Median score but I'm reasonably sure it's not far off from this

Yes he does score big often but exactly as I said, his typical innings is 30 off 15. I'm not saying it's impossible that he'll be able to adjust to the tempo of an ODI but why tinker when he's just reached the current pinnacle of the T20 opening batter?

It's not like we're struggling with slow starts in One-dayers anyway.

 

[Rana]

Reminds me a lot of Chris Gayle

And Gayle was a brilliant red ball cricketer too.

 

[Red-Indian]

India do not usually fall into the trap of a player being good in one format automatically being drafted in other.

It is an option for teams with weak test sides like Pakistan and WIndies - let's get a hitter in and see what happens. But for stronger sides it's not needed.

Australia seem to have gone down this route by drafting useless players like Konstas into the rest side. The formats are very different and if you dont respect the differences you will usually come up short.

We don't always avoid it either. Suryakumar in the last ODI World Cup is a prime example.

But it's true that there does seem to be more clarity of thought among the selectors recently. Not to say, they still don't goof up occasionally but it's not preposterous. For example, yes Shubman Gill was probably not the perfect choice to open in T20s but with a strike rate of 140 over a large sample size in the IPL, it's not like he's some deadweight.

 

[Sachin fan]

Dude...there's no point getting aggressive about it

His T20I Average is 37 with a Strike rate of ~200
His T20I Median Score is 30 off 17 balls
His T20 Average is 31 with a Strike rate of ~170 (I'm sure it'll look better if I were to restrict to the last few seasons)
It'll be a pain getting to his T20 Median score but I'm reasonably sure it's not far off from this

Yes he does score big often but exactly as I said, his typical innings is 30 off 15. I'm not saying it's impossible that he'll be able to adjust to the tempo of an ODI but why tinker when he's just reached the current pinnacle of the T20 opening batter?

It's not like we're struggling with slow starts in One-dayers anyway.

Lol at reducing cricket to maths. If he is scoring 50+ in one out of 5 innings and 30s in most of the rest, he is one of the most consistent t20 players in history.

I have no issues with you claiming those numbers, but you seem to be portraying that this is different and inferior from other top players in terms of consistency, when that's simply not true, his numbers put him among the top in consistency.

No player scores 50+ every match.

And are you claiming that an average of 37 in t20s is not top teir?

 

[Red-Indian]

Lol at reducing cricket to maths. If he is scoring 50+ in one out of 5 innings and 30s in most of the rest, he is one of the most consistent t20 players in history.

I have no issues with you claiming those numbers, but you seem to be portraying that this is different and inferior from other top players in terms of consistency, when that's simply not true, his numbers put him among the top in consistency.

No player scores 50+ every match.

And are you claiming that an average of 37 in t20s is not top teir?

Don't get me wrong. I'm a fan of the guy.

In fact, I would say 30-35 with a high strike rate (say 170-180) is the ideal T20 opener and Abhishek does even better so he's currently top of the top tier as reflected in his ICC ranking.

I do temper my expectations though because his IPL averages are lower which is more reliable because of a larger sample size. He's more likely a 30 off 15 guy than a 37 off 19 guy though I'd be happy to be proven wrong.

However even that's great. With a 30 off 15 to start you off, you can score at 150 the rest of the way and end up over 180 which is still a winning score in T20s despite the recent score inflation. If he can stick to his 37, it'll make it even better.

 

[Buffet]

Nah, too many positive shots. For ODI, he would have to cut down on that.

30(15) is extremely good in T20, but may not matter in most ODIs. In tests, its totally useless.

Having said that, if he can adapt then he can play but I don't know his first class record. If he can do well in domestic then it will be a proof, but without that he shouldn't play in ODI and surely not in tests.

 

[prash88]

His first class average is just 30. He is just a T20 player like SKY. No need to muddle formats. Tilak Varma, Sai Sudarshan etc., ll be more suited to ODIs and tests...

 

[prash88]

Infact, most of the new age hitters from Punjab like Abhishek Sharma, Nehal Wadera, Naman Dhir, Ramdeep Singh and Prabhsimran Singh are T20 only players..

 

[Devadwal]

Nah, too many positive shots. For ODI, he would have to cut down on that.

30(15) is extremely good in T20, but may not matter in most ODIs. In tests, its totally useless.

Having said that, if he can adapt then he can play but I don't know his first class record. If he can do well in domestic then it will be a proof, but without that he shouldn't play in ODI and surely not in tests.

His FC record is very average. He is not a test cricket level player and never will be.

T20 is best for him but India can try him in ODIs as well but there are already many players who are waiting to play ODIs before him.

Jaiswal , Sai , Tilak are better Player than him .

Btw you haven't updated the wicket tally of Indian innings since 3 wickets. 7 more to go.... But what Next.....

 

[Champ_Pal]

He can stick to ODI's and T20's. Putting him in Test squad will mess up his attacking style.

Only Jaiswal and Gill will be all format players. May be Tilak too.