Why are Pakistanis the only ones regularly failing to report approaches from bookies?

[sabz86]

Why is it only our players that are regularly still getting busted for illegal bookie approaches and not reporting them?

Surely if players choose to go down the route of NOT accepting an approach, its a no-brainer in terms of reporting the approach. Also surely we can't still be using lack of education as an excuse, with the amount of counselling on hand regarding match/spot fixing and the plethora of education handed to players, not to mention the support staff around?

What is the reason then that Pakistanis are the only nation regularly failing to report these approaches?

 

[IAJ]

If the common pakistani cared about the country's honour as much as he cares about his family members' honour he would have dragged these cheaters down the street and stoned them like crazy man so the whole world could see. Maybe a blessing for these cheaters. I am not supporting this barbaric behaviour but just putting the things in perspective.

 

[TahirFan]

Why is it only our players?

It's not only Pakistani players.

South African players are just as guilty

 

[joly]

Come one a mediocre bowler like Amir was made to be a god even after he sold his country.What example did you set?

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

I would guess it's because they see it as a route to big money they would otherwise not have available. Added to that, until now, the PCB wasn't as tough cracking down as they have been recently so players would think they could get away with it.

 

[moghul]

Come one a mediocre bowler like Amir was made to be a god even after he sold his country.What example did you set?

He got the most severe punishment fro his crime , what else you would suggest, hang him ? . Every law in the world let a person resume his job after completing his sentence.

 

[Sadevdesai]

We seem to be easily corruptible !!!! May be ???

 

[Savak]

The confidence of getting away with it.

 

[Flat_Track_Bully]

Indian bookie mafia are targetting Pakistani players.

India is mothership of dodgy bookie mafia.

 

[MMHS]

The reason is actually a bit different.

These players are "scouted" long, long before they became star & they are entrapped once they are in National set-up. It's not that, the time they are caught is their first offense (or denial) - they are approached (black mailed) every time - some can resist/bargain out sometimes, some can't.

Only reason for this is not always education, moral or greed - rather it's because of the dirty, rotten & corrupt system which forces players to "suck" a "god father" at the start of their young career, which hunts them back once they are in PAK colors. Not even insane people are such stupid to jeopardize career like Amir or Sharjeel for such token money. I know many PAK players playing in Dhaka League doing "whatever" to keep their agents (100% them are corrupt & involved with some bookie) happy, so that they can get mercenary calls. Besides, only in PAK, I see even National players play in private leagues/tournaments (or allowed to play for the influence of the tournament owner), which are basically betting toys of rich but morally dirty people - players are forced to act, but often it ends on stepping banana skins.

PAK doesn't have any players union, no domestic central contract, no regular season or system, no regular club cricket - it's ad hoc basis sports management, which was similar to Baseball management in 1850s in USA or private league cricket of Barons & Lords in 1800s UK - in both cases, betting in Baseball or Cricket was at similar level. Also, personally, I'll never ban any player for fixing in PL/SLs - every types of movie doesn't need censor board, but those movie do make money & those also has a requirement in the society.

 

[BD-fan]

Have you ever been blackmailed? To what extent? How about your loved ones life?

It is not simple. Of course some are just greedy and falls in to a trap as well.

 

[Savak]

These bookies are connected to criminals and the underworld and even politicians. I am pretty sure they do their full homework on the players, leveraging his needs, his strengths and weak points before they go in for the kill, they i am certain also threaten the players with dire consequences, threats to the lives, security of their family members and loved ones.

Its like how a foreign intelligence agency traps and recruits an agent of another foreign intelligence agency.

 

[TahirFan]

Players involved in fixing are not blackmailed by bookies.

They are simply morally and spiritually bankrupt

Remember no one threatened Hansie. Hansie approached Gibbs and Henry and they participated in his corrupt game because they had no values. Hansie also approached Klusener and Boucher but they refused to get involved

Corrupt players use 'Blackmail' as an excuse to justify their dishonesty

If anything, it is the corrupt players who are the criminals

 

[Slog]

2 scenarios:

1) they are trapped way before they are part of the team or regulars in it so they can't expose them now that they have been in touch for years. Because that is a crime too

2) they see it as a backup option in case they do not make it big and the career withers away

 

[Captain]

Because our PM is corrupt and he reflects the mindset of the society

 

[sabz86]

2 scenarios:

2) they see it as a backup option in case they do not make it big and the career withers away

After some further thought, I too believe that this is the case. I reckon that although they mightn't say yes straight away, they want to keep the option open further down the line.

The only thing, i think maybe they wait till they are MORE established and can command a larger fee from bookies..

Thoughts?

 

[Hamza_]

[MENTION=79064]MMHS[/MENTION] what you are saying is not in this case. They met the bookie with reference on Big Nas.

 

[MMHS]

[MENTION=79064]MMHS[/MENTION] what you are saying is not in this case. They met the bookie with reference on Big Nas.

This can be an individual instance (though, I am not convinced that this was their first step towards darkness), but what I have written is, more or less the case.

Meeting bookie is no offense, even if he knows the bookie - any one can meet with anyone in his personal time.
I have convicted relatives/friends coming to my house, but for that I wasn't arrested - issue is in not informing authority or in accepting money to fix a match, which Nas can't force unless, unless someone is willing or entrapped, no matter how Big Nas might be. It's silly to think that, after so much events, actions, examples & education around fixing, players like Sharjeel will jeopardize a career worth at least 20 crore just for 20 lacs, from the platonic love of Big Nas. He was destined to be PAK regular in 3 formats, for best part of next 10 years at least.

People like to believe that leniency on Amir set a bad example, because they can't comprehend how much Amir actually lost - at 18, he had the whole cricket world under his feet. He could have been the highest earning cricketer outside India from on & off the field earnings for 20 years - add to that possible 5 to 10 years of PAK Captain's arm band in 3 formats, followed by another 35 years of career in cricket media. Today, just for that few more bucks, he is at the mercy of people/players who would have been queuing for a bit of his time by now.

 

[ask_analyse_act]

Mentality is what it matters I think... Greedy for money than the career itself.....No excuses..

 

[the_best]

yes, but no country would appoint a lawyer at Attorney General Office if he was disbared for criminal offence. In Amir's case, Pakistan did that kind of thing