Why did Haris Rauf bowl only eight overs in a recent first-class match?

[tiger_khan]

Did he get injured?

Other pacers bowled twice as many overs in the same innings

He also "fell" on the red ball, after bowling only 13 overs in the first innings of the only Test match he has ever played


The FC red-ball cricket builds mental fortitude, physical fitness and also allows you to develop skills by trying new things.
Things that can't be tried during the short version games.

Rauf on multiple occasions now has failed to keep up with the pressure during the games with both the strong and Associate teams. He also very strongly prefers to not to bowl with the new ball.

If he is not willing to develop his game and skills then PCB should respect his choices and give him NOC for private franchises.

However, for the sake of regaining the lost standards of Pak cricket, start giving chances to bowlers who are willing to do the hard work for the the national team.

 

[DeadlyVenom]

Its double his usual workload. Have some appreciation.

 

[tiger_khan]

Its double his usual workload. Have some appreciation.

actually more than double. In some T20 games, he is not even allowed to bowl his full quota

 

[sweep_shot]

I think he should just stick to ODI and T20. Not a good option for FC/Test perhaps.

 

[tiger_khan]

I think he should just stick to ODI and T20. Not a good option for FC/Test perhaps.

No. He is not fit for internal standards period. Not fit either, physically, mentally or skill wise.
He also is not showing any intention to work hard for improvements. For example, if he plays first class cricket, he will stop falling after delivering most of the balls. It has to do with the bowling conditions and getting used to them. He also bursts under pressure because he is physically tired at the end. When you are tired, you struggle to apply yourself mentally too.

One of these days in an extremely important game a great player will hit back a catchable drive and he will be busy falling after his delivery.

 

[DeadlyVenom]

No. He is not fit for internal standards period. Not fit either, physically, mentally or skill wise.
He also is not showing any intention to work hard for improvements. For example, if he plays first class cricket, he will stop falling after delivering most of the balls. It has to do with the bowling conditions and getting used to them. He also bursts under pressure because he is physically tired at the end. When you are tired, you struggle to apply yourself mentally too.

One of these days in an extremely important game a great player will hit back a catchable drive and he will be busy falling after his delivery.

He came into cricket via an unusual route. He doesn't have a traditional cricketing background. Given this handicap he has done fantastically well to achieve what he has.

It is too much to expect him to be the same as someone who has been playing first class cricket and age group cricket.

Haris played hardball cricket for the first time aged 23. Shaheen Afridi in contrast went on a tour of Australia with Pakistan school boys when he was 14-15. Naseem Shah came early too. Abbas Afridi played FC when he was 17 etc etc

Haris basically is like someone who went to university without going to high school. He has done quite well to do what he has, expecting him to produce the same results as others is unfair and probably impossible.

 

[Cover Drive Six]

I think he should just stick to ODI and T20. Not a good option for FC/Test perhaps.

Tbh, he doesn’t fit into any format in international cricket. He is only good for leagues, and I even doubt he will perform well there.

 

[tiger_khan]

He came into cricket via an unusual route. He doesn't have a traditional cricketing background. Given this handicap he has done fantastically well to achieve what he has.

It is too much to expect him to be the same as someone who has been playing first class cricket and age group cricket.

Haris played hardball cricket for the first time aged 23. Shaheen Afridi in contrast went on a tour of Australia with Pakistan school boys when he was 14-15. Naseem Shah came early too. Abbas Afridi played FC when he was 17 etc etc

Haris basically is like someone who went to university without going to high school. He has done quite well to do what he has, expecting him to produce the same results as others is unfair and probably impossible.

that's my point

if he is not showing any intention to work hard and improve his skills then Pakistan should just move on from him.

it's not like he is making us win every game or every other one. He crumbles under pressure.

he got into the system via a shortcut...good for him. but now he should work harder or should be replaced. There are plenty of other bowlers who can replace him. He is still on the team after below par performances in very important games - I suspect because of his political backing.

 

[The Bald Eagle]

Tbh, he doesn’t fit into any format in international cricket. He is only good for leagues, and I even doubt he will perform well there.

The truth is he can't handle the pressure, if you want him to deliver then let him bowl early, unfortunately he is acting just like Bhubi in his twilight. He also has a 19th over syndrome.

 

[DeadlyVenom]

that's my point

if he is not showing any intention to work hard and improve his skills then Pakistan should just move on from him

it's not like he is making us win every game or every other one. He crumbles under pressure.


he got into the system via a shortcut...good for him. but now he should work harder or should be replaced. There are plenty of other bowlers who can replace him. He is still on the team after below par performances in very important games - I suspect because of his political backing.

I think shortcut is wrong word bro. He worked very hard to get in an unconventional route.

I don't think someone who has played no long form cricket until their mid 20s can be expected to play it. The body is just not used to it.

Haris has failed in big moments but his career overall is a success story and a story of hard work and determination. Every human being has their limits, just working hard doesn't make anyone suddenly become better if they have reached their limits.

I don't think he has political backing either. He was actually removed from international unfairly at one point.

Overall I agree we should move on now, but it's unfair to lambast him when it is just beyond his capabilities,rather than being completely down to lack of application

 

[ElRaja]

cos hes being forced to play, i met him once at a dinner, during a candid moment he pretty much implied he hated red ball cricket and wouldnt ever play it unless forced to. pcb pbly told him hes getting dropped from the t20 squad so he had no option. the latter part is purely conjecture on my part.

 

[moghul]

Did he get injured?

Other pacers bowled twice as many overs in the same innings

He also "fell" on the red ball, after bowling only 13 overs in the first innings of the only Test match he has ever played


The FC red-ball cricket builds mental fortitude, physical fitness and also allows you to develop skills by trying new things.
Things that can't be tried during the short version games.

Rauf on multiple occasions now has failed to keep up with the pressure during the games with both the strong and Associate teams. He also very strongly prefers to not to bowl with the new ball.

If he is not willing to develop his game and skills then PCB should respect his choices and give him NOC for private franchises.

However, for the sake of regaining the lost standards of Pak cricket, start giving chances to bowlers who are willing to do the hard work for the the national team.

He doesn't want to play red ball cricketa and has no role to play at the national level, why is he forced to play FC cricket. He can't improve his T20 bowling by playing FC cricket.

 

[tiger_khan]

He doesn't want to play red ball cricketa and has no role to play at the national level, why is he forced to play FC cricket. He can't improve his T20 bowling by playing FC cricket.

doesn't fit the international standards of white ball cricket either. i think that's the message the board is try to send to all the players. improve your standards by playing FC cricket

if he were making us win every other game, it would have been OK to indulge him with his preferences.

he is not bringing anything valuable to the table even in whiteball cricket

Actually, any harsh critic would argue that he is one the many reasons we have been losing important whiteball games.

If Pakistan is to regain its standards, it has to get rid of one dimensional batters and blowers. Pakistan has already given him enough leeway. He is a genuine fast bowler mostly doesn't want to bowl with the new ball - which is another way of saying, I don't want to bowl during powerplays. In the depth overs, he crumbles under pressure.

It's time Pakistan start looking for the players who raise their hands in difficult situations, not accommodate who deflect responsibilities and avoid difficult situations.