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Why did Hindus become Islamophobic?

What is obligatory in Islam? Burqa? Hijab or does it depend on which country you are in?

Religious freedom is freedom to pray as as you see fit. It is not making exceptions to the rules of the need to follow which you already knew
Secularism without religious freedom is not secularism.
 
Nah, Bro, you are king of the hill for that
Maturity is seeing how ridiculously easy it is to roast someone arguing people should be slaughtered over a cow, especially when their ultimate defense is, “I have a corporate job.” Truly earth shattering reasoning.

And the cherry on top? You couldn’t even keep the atheist mask on for five minutes. The moment anyone asks a real question, boom, fragile act shattered.

And yet, somehow, these are the “geniuses” you’re out here defending. Spectacular.
 
Maturity is seeing how ridiculously easy it is to roast someone arguing people should be slaughtered over a cow, especially when their ultimate defense is, “I have a corporate job.” Truly earth shattering reasoning.

And the cherry on top? You couldn’t even keep the atheist mask on for five minutes. The moment anyone asks a real question, boom, fragile act shattered.

And yet, somehow, these are the “geniuses” you’re out here defending. Spectacular.
I have no idea what you are babbling about.
 
I'm suprised. I thought it's generally accepted that the Islamic world in general and Islamic countries specifically are against personal freedoms.

Freedom of speech is restricted by prohibitions on blasphemy, on proselytisation of religions other than Islam etc.
Freedom of religion is restricted by the prohibition to renounce Islam
Freedom of expression by limits on decent (whatever that means) clothing, bans on homosexuality

The Western world in general and Western democracies in particular for a long while believed in personal freedoms and held by those beliefs. Unfortunately, they're moving away from these principles as well - bans on religious clothing like Burqas, controls on press freedom etc.


There's nothing to stop you doing any of those things in private which is what I understood to mean personal. Obviously there are restrictions in public, that is the same in the west as well, just might be a different take on what is permissable and what is not.
 
Sure

Try it in again inEnglish instead of gibberish
You will have accept countries which in oast have been tolerant are making Islam specific laws. Ask yourself why that is

Don’t need to an expert. Just literate.



That’s is fact. Fearing that is not u reasonable.

I have no idea what you are babbling about.

are really idiotic enough to to type that?

apparently it was english enough to respond with another message. Guess islamic teachings and values in full flow there
Make sure that when you ask others to correct their English, you write your own sentences correctly. :facepalm

Also, the mask of fake atheism slipped off your face a long time ago, there is no need to keep trying to put it back on. You can call yourself an "andhbhakt" today, and no one will see you any differently. :rabada2 :inti
 
evil will never like good and vice versa.

bad germs will never co-exist with good germs.

left cannot be right and right cannot be left.
 
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‘Cocktail of Hindutva and welfarism’: How Modi’s BJP is wooing Assam voters

Amoiya Medhi says attending an election rally organised by the right-wing Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP) in her hometown in India’s northeastern state of Assam is a matter of both religious compulsion and personal gratitude.

On March 29, Medhi was among thousands of men and women who thronged the rally held on the outskirts of Jagiroad, an industrial town in central Assam’s Morigaon district, ahead of the state assembly election scheduled on Thursday.

Nitin Nabin, the BJP’s national president and chief guest at the event, trumpeted the welfare schemes launched by Chief Minister Himanta Biswa Sarma’s government – schemes that Nabin claimed benefitted the Assamese people, especially women.

Medhi, 38, nodded in agreement as she listened attentively to the speeches. “This government has done so much for everyone, including women,” she told Al Jazeera. “I am going to only vote for the BJP.”

Like Medhi, dozens of women attending the rally said they were the beneficiaries of multiple government schemes, including Orunodoi, a direct benefit transfer scheme that saw nearly four million women receive 9,000 rupees each on March 10 – the largest such disbursement in the state’s history, which included a three-month bonus to mark the Bihu festival held in April.

The disbursement came barely a month before Thursday’s vote in which Sarma, 57, is seeking a third consecutive term for his party.

Since becoming the chief minister in 2021, Sarma has been accused of pursuing a hardline Hindu supremacist agenda (popularly known as “Hindutva”) coupled with a xenophobic campaign targeting Muslims. They constitute 34 percent of Assam’s 31 million population, according to the last census conducted in 2011. That’s the highest among Indian states, with only the federally-governed territories of Indian-administered Kashmir and Lakshadweep higher.

An overwhelming nine million of Assam’s 10.3 million Muslims speak Bengali and not Assamese. They historically migrated to Assam in waves – a majority of them moving during British rule, when Bengali-speaking Hindu and Muslim communities moved from East Bengal (now Bangladesh) to work in Assam’s tea estates and rice fields.

‘Protecting our Hindu identity’

For decades, the BJP and other Hindu groups have labelled the Bengali-speaking Muslims as “foreigners”, accusing them of being undocumented immigrants from Bangladesh. Assam founded special tribunals to try these Muslims, sending hundreds to detention centres built across the state.

Thousands of “miya”, as Bengali-speaking Muslims in Assam are pejoratively called, have also been declared “doubtful” voters. The “miya” issue has shaped the BJP’s politics in Assam. Leading the charge against them, Sarma himself publicly admitted that he had instructed BJP workers to file an objection with the Election Commission of India to remove half a million Bengali-speaking Muslims from electoral rolls.

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In 2024, Sarma told the state assembly that his government “will take sides” and “will not let miya Muslims take over all of Assam”. Two months ago, a 17-second artificial intelligence-generated video, produced and shared by the BJP on X, showed Sarma holding a rifle and shooting at pictures of two Muslim men, with the caption saying: “No Mercy”. The clip, titled ‘Point Blank Shot’, was deleted after outrage.

Champa Hira, another woman attending the Morigaon rally, said while the BJP’s financial aid and other welfare schemes have been a major draw, her support for the party goes beyond financial benefits.

“For us, it is also about protecting our Hindu identity,” she told Al Jazeera.

“Our Hindu religion is born out of the lotus,” Hira said, referring to the BJP’s election symbol. “We will let the lotus bloom once again for such schemes and also for our Hindu identities.”

In the run-up to the polls, the BJP’s political messaging on roadside billboards, wall graffiti and posters had the party showcase its anti-Muslim policies pursued in the past decade.

The party boasts about clearing around 20,000 hectares of government land – an area more than three-and-a-half-times the size of Manhattan – from the “osinaki manuh” (“strange people” – a veiled reference to Bengali-speaking Muslims). The eviction drives, which intensified after Sarma became the chief minister in 2021, are a part of the BJP’s “war” on Bengali-speaking Muslims to “reclaim every inch of land” allegedly encroached by them. Without providing evidence, Sarma has repeatedly accused the Bengali-speaking Muslims of a conspiracy to change Assam’s demography and reduce Hindus to a minority. The government’s crackdown also saw dozens of Muslims “pushed back” to Bangladesh – their alleged homeland – or their properties bulldozed.

Alongside such hardline policies targeting Muslims, the BJP also touted the launching of various welfare schemes for women and youth. And has promised an increase in financial aid from $13 to over $32 in the Orunodoi cash transfer scheme. In the Udyamita scheme, an entrepreneurial fund reserved for rural women to bootstrap their businesses, the increase is from $107 to $269.

Akhil Ranjan Dutta, who teaches political science at Assam’s Gauhati University, says the Hindu nationalist party is using a strategy that mixes “heightened polarisation and a developmental pitch” to woo the Assamese voters.

“To me, it is a cocktail of Hindutva and welfarism,” Dutta told Al Jazeera. “The BJP is experimenting with a brand of Hindutva by co-opting communities, while solidifying Hindu identity and othering the Bengali Muslims.”

BJP spokesman in Assam, Kishore Upadhyay, rejected the allegation, claiming the government’s eviction drives were not targeted at any community.

“It is directed only against illegal encroachment, irrespective of religion or identity. Unfortunately, successive Congress governments in the past allowed or even facilitated such illegal settlements, creating today’s challenges,” he told Al Jazeera.

“It is also important to highlight that this is about restoring land rights of indigenous and tribal communities, protecting forest areas and ensuring proper land governance.”

The Bengali-speaking Muslims say the BJP’s election promises have heightened their anxiety. In its manifesto, the party has promised more crackdowns on the community, including a proposal to implement a Uniform Civil Code, which, according to critics, will override Muslim personal laws on marriage, divorce and inheritance.

The Uniform Civil Code, a longstanding demand from Hindu groups, is already in place in two BJP-ruled states, including Prime Minister Narendra Modi’s home state of Gujarat. The BJP has also promised a pushback against “Love Jihad”, an unproven conspiracy theory floated by right-wing Hindu groups, under which Muslim men allegedly lure Hindu women into marriage and convert them to Islam.

A former Assamese parliamentarian from the main opposition Congress party, who requested anonymity fearing reprisal from the government, agreed with political scientist Dutta. “The BJP has managed to turn Hindus against Muslims and enjoy support,” he added.

Will welfare schemes help BJP?

Opposition parties and analysts say the BJP is mainly milking two cash transfer schemes – Orunodoi and Udyamita – to influence voters in this election.

In December 2025 and January this year, the government distributed cheques of $107 each under the Udyamita scheme. Additionally, it withheld a monthly honorarium of $13 for poor women under the Orunodoi scheme for three months, but handed it out last month in the run-up to the election.

Isfaqur Rahman of the Communist Party of India (Marxist) said the Sarma government’s disbursement of cash only days before the polls will help it in securing significant numbers of female votes. “If cash is disbursed to them on the eve of the election after making the beneficiaries wait, it will help influence their choice to vote,” Rahman told Al Jazeera. “This is nothing more than vote buying by the BJP.”

Economist Joydeep Baruah agreed, saying that distributing a lump sum of money will “bear a positive political result for the ruling party”, as he estimated that that at least 10 to 15 percent of the scheme’s four million women beneficiaries could vote for the BJP.

“While the rural wages in Assam have been stagnant due to a growing unemployment, the Orunodoi financial aid converts into 10-15 percent of their monthly income,” said Baruah, who teaches economics at state-run Krishna Kanta Handiqui State Open University in Assam’s main city of Guwahati.

Baruah said such populist schemes help in sustaining pro-incumbency.

“That way, the BJP is establishing more of a patron-client relationship, with patrons being the BJP and the clients being the beneficiaries,” he told Al Jazeera. “Such a transactional relationship materialises on the ground.”

Dipika Baruah, a 34-year-old woman in Kathiatoli town in central Assam’s Nagaon district – who is not related to economist Baruah – said the government grants empowered her to live with dignity.

“The money helped me keep the flame in my stove going,” she told Al Jazeera as she shopped at Mama Bazar, a marketplace named after Sarma, who is fondly called “mama” (maternal uncle in Assamese and Bengali) by his supporters. “This was possible because of mama. Women will only vote for Mama.”

Pre-poll surveys in Assam also suggest that cash transfer schemes will help the BJP consolidate votes in its favour.

An opinion poll conducted by political research firm, Vote Vibe, revealed that 54 percent of respondents believe the government’s cash transfer schemes will consolidate and even attract opposition voters. The survey also showed 38 percent of female respondents saying the schemes had strengthened the BJP’s voter base, while 21 percent of females said the schemes will poach opposition votes.

BJP spokesman Upadhyay told Al Jazeera the allegations of influencing voters by transferring cash before the election are “factually incorrect and politically motivated”.

“It [Orunodoi] is a long-standing welfare initiative aimed at supporting economically vulnerable women-led households, not a last-minute electoral measure,” he said.

‘Kill us all at once’

Back at the BJP rally in Morigaon, where its leaders delivered fiery speeches calling for the expulsion of “infiltrators from Bangladesh”, Amir Ali remembered his sister Afsana.

On February 18, 1983, one-year-old Afsana was among an estimated 1,800 Bengali-speaking Muslims massacred by a Hindu and Indigenous mob in what came to be known as the Nellie massacre. The killings were in 14 villages, including Ali’s Matiparbat, a 40-minute drive from where the BJP rally was held.

Ali, now in his 50s, said he attended the BJP rally only to prove that he is not an “illegal immigrant” but a citizen of the state.

“When children were massacred, we had no choice but to vote to prove that we are not illegal Bangladeshis,” he told Al Jazeera. “Likewise, we have no choice now but to prove we are not infiltrators or ‘strangers’ as Sarma claims.”

In a quaint corner of Jagiroad town, Noorjamal shares Ali’s sentiments. Two years ago, he was rendered homeless after the houses of nearly 8,000 Muslims were bulldozed during a government eviction drive.

“The chief minister says he is evicting Bangladeshis from government land, but how are we Bangladeshis if my father and forefathers were born and died in India?” Noorjamal’s mother Maherbanu Nessa asked.

“The way Himanta ‘mama’ is bulldozing our homes, he might as well just kill us all at once.”

In a communication sent to India’s Permanent Representative to the United Nations in Geneva, the United Nations Committee on Elimination of Racial Discrimination (CERD) said on January 19 this year that Bengali-speaking Muslims in Assam are facing racial discrimination, resulting in forced evictions, hate speech and excessive use of force by the law-enforcement agencies.

An investigation by The New Humanitarian, an independent news outlet, published on March 24 found that between May 2021, when Sarma became Assam’s chief minister, and early 2026, more than 22,000 structures were demolished and 20,380 families evicted in the state, an overwhelming majority of them being Bengali-speaking Muslims.

As Sarma’s BJP vows to “break the backbone of miyas” after the election, Ali and Nessa worry about survival amid such hostilities.

“We have nothing to resist this cruel government but prayers and our votes,” Ali told Al Jazeera. “But maybe, if not today, then someday we will find peace in this land. We are still hopeful.”

 
There's nothing to stop you doing any of those things in private which is what I understood to mean personal. Obviously there are restrictions in public, that is the same in the west as well, just might be a different take on what is permissable and what is not.
Freedom to do something within four walls when no-one's watching is not personal freedom. If that's how you're going to define it, North Korea qualifies as well.

Personal freedoms for me are to do with what you can say, who and how you can worship, your sexual orientation, privacy etc.
By Public freedoms, I thought you meant the freedom to participate in the political process, freedom to show public dissent, protest etc.

Islamic countries recognise neither of these as far as I know. You're right that Western countries recognise them to different degrees - some better than others but it's getting worse.
 
Freedom to do something within four walls when no-one's watching is not personal freedom. If that's how you're going to define it, North Korea qualifies as well.

Personal freedoms for me are to do with what you can say, who and how you can worship, your sexual orientation, privacy etc.
By Public freedoms, I thought you meant the freedom to participate in the political process, freedom to show public dissent, protest etc.

Islamic countries recognise neither of these as far as I know. You're right that Western countries recognise them to different degrees - some better than others but it's getting worse.
It's good that unlike some other pseudo atheist you didn't construe act of states and countries as representation of their religion.
 
Question why did Hindus become islamophobic?

Answer:

Major Terror Attacks in India (1990–Present) – Attributed to Islamist Groups


1990–1995 – Kashmir insurgency


Groups: Hizbul Mujahideen, Lashkar-e-Taiba


1993 – Bombay bombings


Group: D-Company (Dawood Ibrahim network) with Pakistan-based support


2000 – Chittisinghpura massacre

Group: Lashkar-e-Taiba (suspected)

2001 – Indian Parliament attack

Groups: Jaish-e-Mohammed, Lashkar-e-Taiba


2002 – Akshardham Temple attack

Group: Lashkar-e-Taiba (linked)

2003 – Mumbai bombings

Groups: Lashkar-e-Taiba, SIMI

2005 – Delhi bombings

Group: Lashkar-e-Taiba (linked)

2006 – Mumbai train bombings

Groups: Lashkar-e-Taiba, SIMI

2007 – Mecca Masjid blast

Group: Indian Mujahideen

2008 – Jaipur bombings

Group: Indian Mujahideen

2008 – Ahmedabad bombings

Group: Indian Mujahideen

2008 – Delhi bombings

Group: Indian Mujahideen

2008 – Mumbai attacks (26/11)

Group: Lashkar-e-Taiba

2011 – Mumbai triple blasts

Group: Indian Mujahideen (suspected)

2013 – Bodh Gaya bombings

Group: Indian Mujahideen (suspected)

2013 – Patna rally blasts

Group: Indian Mujahideen

2016 – Pathankot airbase attack

Group: Jaish-e-Mohammed

2016 – Uri attack

Group: Jaish-e-Mohammed

2017 – Amarnath Yatra attack

Group: Lashkar-e-Taiba (linked)

2019 – Pulwama attack

Group: Jaish-e-Mohammed

2021–2023 – Targeted killings in Jammu and Kashmir


Groups: The Resistance Front (LeT proxy), Lashkar-e-Taiba


This is just from 1990s, not including other Hindu Muslim riots or other significant world events like 9/11 etc,

Hope this helps
 
Freedom to do something within four walls when no-one's watching is not personal freedom. If that's how you're going to define it, North Korea qualifies as well.

Personal freedoms for me are to do with what you can say, who and how you can worship, your sexual orientation, privacy etc.
By Public freedoms, I thought you meant the freedom to participate in the political process, freedom to show public dissent, protest etc.

Islamic countries recognise neither of these as far as I know. You're right that Western countries recognise them to different degrees - some better than others but it's getting worse.

Personal freedom just means what you do in your own personal life, that's how I understood it. Once it's in the public domain and impacting others, then it becomes a public issue. Islamic countries are definitely more restrictive than western in this regard, but at the same time, as you have said, every country and society has their own restrictions based upon their own belief system.
 
Question why did Hindus become islamophobic?

Answer:

Major Terror Attacks in India (1990–Present) – Attributed to Islamist Groups


1990–1995 – Kashmir insurgency


Groups: Hizbul Mujahideen, Lashkar-e-Taiba


1993 – Bombay bombings


Group: D-Company (Dawood Ibrahim network) with Pakistan-based support


2000 – Chittisinghpura massacre

Group: Lashkar-e-Taiba (suspected)

2001 – Indian Parliament attack

Groups: Jaish-e-Mohammed, Lashkar-e-Taiba


2002 – Akshardham Temple attack

Group: Lashkar-e-Taiba (linked)

2003 – Mumbai bombings

Groups: Lashkar-e-Taiba, SIMI

2005 – Delhi bombings

Group: Lashkar-e-Taiba (linked)

2006 – Mumbai train bombings

Groups: Lashkar-e-Taiba, SIMI

2007 – Mecca Masjid blast

Group: Indian Mujahideen

2008 – Jaipur bombings

Group: Indian Mujahideen

2008 – Ahmedabad bombings

Group: Indian Mujahideen

2008 – Delhi bombings

Group: Indian Mujahideen

2008 – Mumbai attacks (26/11)

Group: Lashkar-e-Taiba

2011 – Mumbai triple blasts

Group: Indian Mujahideen (suspected)

2013 – Bodh Gaya bombings

Group: Indian Mujahideen (suspected)

2013 – Patna rally blasts

Group: Indian Mujahideen

2016 – Pathankot airbase attack

Group: Jaish-e-Mohammed

2016 – Uri attack

Group: Jaish-e-Mohammed

2017 – Amarnath Yatra attack

Group: Lashkar-e-Taiba (linked)

2019 – Pulwama attack

Group: Jaish-e-Mohammed

2021–2023 – Targeted killings in Jammu and Kashmir


Groups: The Resistance Front (LeT proxy), Lashkar-e-Taiba


This is just from 1990s, not including other Hindu Muslim riots or other significant world events like 9/11 etc,

Hope this helps


This doesn't help at all since it is just a biased litany of terror activities and there is no balancing records of hindutva terror in India listing the many militant hindutva groups like Bajrang Dal, RSS, Shiv Sena and their underlings.

Obviously violence will beget violence, I am not going to get involved in a "you started it..." dialogue. I am looking at more underlying or long range grievances against Islam itself. The reason being, there was obviously some point at which communities lived together pre-partition. How did they manage then?
 
This doesn't help at all since it is just a biased litany of terror activities and there is no balancing records of hindutva terror in India listing the many militant hindutva groups like Bajrang Dal, RSS, Shiv Sena and their underlings.

Obviously violence will beget violence, I am not going to get involved in a "you started it..." dialogue. I am looking at more underlying or long range grievances against Islam itself. The reason being, there was obviously some point at which communities lived together pre-partition. How did they manage then?
You are balancing documented facts vs rhetoric with the oh even Hindutva kills Muslims argument. It has 0 legs.. I haven’t even scratched the surface with other world terror events associated with Islam.

Nah there is no balancing. There is clear difference between crime and terror. Some guy got beat up by a mob is a crime not terrorism.

Also any number you can put around the so called causalities from Bajrang Dal, RSS etc? Don’t pull it from you now where. There are actual documented numbers of casualties for all these events I posted .

anyways you are here to make jalebis and clutch and straws. Every setback results in a week break and than you comeback posting the same nonsense arguments and trolling anyways. So you do you, that was my 2 cents for public awareness 👍
 
You are balancing documented facts vs rhetoric with the oh even Hindutva kills Muslims argument. It has 0 legs.. I haven’t even scratched the surface with other world terror events associated with Islam.

Nah there is no balancing. There is clear difference between crime and terror. Some guy got beat up by a mob is a crime not terrorism.

Also any number you can put around the so called causalities from Bajrang Dal, RSS etc? Don’t pull it from you now where. There are actual documented numbers of casualties for all these events I posted .

anyways you are here to make jalebis and clutch and straws. Every setback results in a week break and than you comeback posting the same nonsense arguments and trolling anyways. So you do you, that was my 2 cents for public awareness 👍

You have more Muslims in India than in Pakistan. If Islam breeds so many terrorists as your post implies, how is there not anarchy in India?
 
Question why did Hindus become islamophobic?

Answer:

Major Terror Attacks in India (1990–Present) – Attributed to Islamist Groups


1990–1995 – Kashmir insurgency


Groups: Hizbul Mujahideen, Lashkar-e-Taiba


1993 – Bombay bombings


Group: D-Company (Dawood Ibrahim network) with Pakistan-based support


2000 – Chittisinghpura massacre

Group: Lashkar-e-Taiba (suspected)

2001 – Indian Parliament attack

Groups: Jaish-e-Mohammed, Lashkar-e-Taiba


2002 – Akshardham Temple attack

Group: Lashkar-e-Taiba (linked)

2003 – Mumbai bombings

Groups: Lashkar-e-Taiba, SIMI

2005 – Delhi bombings

Group: Lashkar-e-Taiba (linked)

2006 – Mumbai train bombings

Groups: Lashkar-e-Taiba, SIMI

2007 – Mecca Masjid blast

Group: Indian Mujahideen

2008 – Jaipur bombings

Group: Indian Mujahideen

2008 – Ahmedabad bombings

Group: Indian Mujahideen

2008 – Delhi bombings

Group: Indian Mujahideen

2008 – Mumbai attacks (26/11)

Group: Lashkar-e-Taiba

2011 – Mumbai triple blasts

Group: Indian Mujahideen (suspected)

2013 – Bodh Gaya bombings

Group: Indian Mujahideen (suspected)

2013 – Patna rally blasts

Group: Indian Mujahideen

2016 – Pathankot airbase attack

Group: Jaish-e-Mohammed

2016 – Uri attack

Group: Jaish-e-Mohammed

2017 – Amarnath Yatra attack

Group: Lashkar-e-Taiba (linked)

2019 – Pulwama attack

Group: Jaish-e-Mohammed

2021–2023 – Targeted killings in Jammu and Kashmir


Groups: The Resistance Front (LeT proxy), Lashkar-e-Taiba


This is just from 1990s, not including other Hindu Muslim riots or other significant world events like 9/11 etc,

Hope this helps
So this makes you hate millions of other Muslims…gotcha
 
So this makes you hate millions of other Muslims…gotcha
Where did I say that? Hating terrorists and terrorist sympathizers is hating all Muslims?

Forget the whole I have Muslim friends flex (which i obviously do), I also have had a Muslim teacher/ mentor I look up to who helped me a lot.

In India we live in a multicultural society so despite issues we know the trashy folks from the good ones from any community.
 
Freedom to do something within four walls when no-one's watching is not personal freedom. If that's how you're going to define it, North Korea qualifies as well.

Personal freedoms for me are to do with what you can say, who and how you can worship, your sexual orientation, privacy etc.
By Public freedoms, I thought you meant the freedom to participate in the political process, freedom to show public dissent, protest etc.

Islamic countries recognise neither of these as far as I know. You're right that Western countries recognise them to different degrees - some better than others but it's getting worse.
Islamic countries also have varying degrees of freedom, not all are the same. I am not sure which one in particular you have in mind when you say this.
 
Freedom to do something within four walls when no-one's watching is not personal freedom. If that's how you're going to define it, North Korea qualifies as well.

Personal freedoms for me are to do with what you can say, who and how you can worship, your sexual orientation, privacy etc.
By Public freedoms, I thought you meant the freedom to participate in the political process, freedom to show public dissent, protest etc.

Islamic countries recognise neither of these as far as I know. You're right that Western countries recognise them to different degrees - some better than others but it's getting worse.
Modi bakhts allow freedom?? Man you guys are big hypocrites.
 
Question why did Hindus become islamophobic?

Answer:

Major Terror Attacks in India (1990–Present) – Attributed to Islamist Groups


1990–1995 – Kashmir insurgency


Groups: Hizbul Mujahideen, Lashkar-e-Taiba


1993 – Bombay bombings


Group: D-Company (Dawood Ibrahim network) with Pakistan-based support


2000 – Chittisinghpura massacre

Group: Lashkar-e-Taiba (suspected)

2001 – Indian Parliament attack

Groups: Jaish-e-Mohammed, Lashkar-e-Taiba


2002 – Akshardham Temple attack

Group: Lashkar-e-Taiba (linked)

2003 – Mumbai bombings

Groups: Lashkar-e-Taiba, SIMI

2005 – Delhi bombings

Group: Lashkar-e-Taiba (linked)

2006 – Mumbai train bombings

Groups: Lashkar-e-Taiba, SIMI

2007 – Mecca Masjid blast

Group: Indian Mujahideen

2008 – Jaipur bombings

Group: Indian Mujahideen

2008 – Ahmedabad bombings

Group: Indian Mujahideen

2008 – Delhi bombings

Group: Indian Mujahideen

2008 – Mumbai attacks (26/11)

Group: Lashkar-e-Taiba

2011 – Mumbai triple blasts

Group: Indian Mujahideen (suspected)

2013 – Bodh Gaya bombings

Group: Indian Mujahideen (suspected)

2013 – Patna rally blasts

Group: Indian Mujahideen

2016 – Pathankot airbase attack

Group: Jaish-e-Mohammed

2016 – Uri attack

Group: Jaish-e-Mohammed

2017 – Amarnath Yatra attack

Group: Lashkar-e-Taiba (linked)

2019 – Pulwama attack

Group: Jaish-e-Mohammed

2021–2023 – Targeted killings in Jammu and Kashmir


Groups: The Resistance Front (LeT proxy), Lashkar-e-Taiba


This is just from 1990s, not including other Hindu Muslim riots or other significant world events like 9/11 etc,

Hope this helps
well maybe then India should not have illegally stolen kashmir from Pakistan or interfered in East Pakistan.

It is as simple as that. You gave these guys a reason and they weaponized extremism. I am not in favor of either but Hindus and india are not exactly absolved of their share of responsibility.

Not to mention the atrocities committed in IOK on Muslims since 1947.
 
Freedom to do something within four walls when no-one's watching is not personal freedom. If that's how you're going to define it, North Korea qualifies as well.

Personal freedoms for me are to do with what you can say, who and how you can worship, your sexual orientation, privacy etc.
By Public freedoms, I thought you meant the freedom to participate in the political process, freedom to show public dissent, protest etc.

Islamic countries recognise neither of these as far my brainwashed self knows. You're right that Western countries recognise them to different degrees - some better than others but it's getting worse.
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well maybe then India should not have illegally stolen kashmir from Pakistan or interfered in East Pakistan.

It is as simple as that. You gave these guys a reason and they weaponized extremism. I am not in favor of either but Hindus and india are not exactly absolved of their share of responsibility.

Not to mention the atrocities committed in IOK on Muslims since 1947.
The Hindu Sindhis or Kashmiri Pandits thrown out due to extremism didn’t become terrorists. They empowered their children by building businesses and educating them. Same goes for Parsis who got thrown out of Iran. Even the Tamil Hindus who suffered due to LTTE- SL army conflict are in some of the top positions in the world.

So we became terrorists due to atrocities seem to be a pattern with Islamic terror.

Also Pak is in lockdown or have presidential securities for random PSL game and Zimbabwe bilateral odi match due to threat from BLA, Taliban or even sectarian issues due to Iran war not “Hindutva”, so there is that.
 
Here we go again with the deflections.

Do you have any response to post #239?
The underlying theme with you is you always want your arguments addressed, without answering the other person's similar concerns. It does not work that way. Your schtick is up. Your constant preaching of being an athiest living in the US and having progressive values are completely overshadowed by your consistent stereotyping and generalization of Muslims.

Now you are accusing Muslims of rioting and killing during the Independence Movement, but have no qualms about raising the star spangled banner for gori chamri who committed similar "atrocities" for their freedom struggle. I suspect you need to educate yourself on the American Revolution and how bloody it was.

Freedom doesnt come easy.
 
The Hindu Sindhis or Kashmiri Pandits thrown out due to extremism didn’t become terrorists. They empowered their children by building businesses and educating them. Same goes for Parsis who got thrown out of Iran. Even the Tamil Hindus who suffered due to LTTE- SL army conflict are in some of the top positions in the world.

So we became terrorists due to atrocities seem to be a pattern with Islamic terror.

Also Pak is in lockdown or have presidential securities for random PSL game and Zimbabwe bilateral odi match due to threat from BLA, Taliban or even sectarian issues due to Iran war not “Hindutva”, so there is that.
Pakistan's is in the top ten most populous nations of the world easy. There are are more Muslims in India than there are in Pakistan. Muslims overall are the second largest religious demographic of the world.

If we were all terrorists, you would not last one day sitting on that high horse of yours. Just a thought
 
Pakistan's is in the top ten most populous nations of the world easy. There are are more Muslims in India than there are in Pakistan. Muslims overall are the second largest religious demographic of the world.

If we were all terrorists, you would not last one day sitting on that high horse of yours. Just a thought
Did I say all Muslims are terrorists?

That’s a statement I condemn.

However most if not all designated terror organizations have the Islamic touch for the lack of a better word. Now that’s a statement I don’t endorse or condemn but the facts hit you hard in the face.
 
Eliminating rhetoric and going by data 👇


Major Designated Terrorist Organizations (Global Consensus)

1. Islamist / Jihadist Groups

These dominate most global terror designation lists.

  • Al-Qaeda
  • ISIS / ISIL (Daesh)
  • Taliban (various factions)
  • Boko Haram
  • Al-Shabaab
  • Jemaah Islamiyah
  • Abu Sayyaf Group

👉 These groups are specifically targeted under UN/EU sanctions frameworks.

2. Middle East Militant Organizations
  • Hamas
  • Hezbollah
  • Palestinian Islamic Jihad (PIJ)
  • Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine (PFLP)

👉 Widely designated across US, EU, UK, and others.



3. South Asia–Focused Groups

  • Lashkar-e-Taiba (LeT)
  • Jaish-e-Mohammed (JeM)
  • Harakat-ul-Mujahideen
  • Indian Mujahideen

👉 Many linked to regional attacks and designated by multiple countries.


4. Iran-Linked / State-Affiliated Entity (Controversial Category)

  • Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC)

👉 Recently designated by the EU (2026) and already by the US and others.


5. Ethno-Nationalist / Separatist Groups

  • PKK (Kurdistan Workers’ Party / Kongra-Gel)
  • LTTE (Tamil Tigers)
  • Real IRA (RIRA)
  • Shining Path (Peru)

👉 These appear on long-standing US and UK lists.


6. Left-Wing / Insurgent Groups

  • Revolutionary Armed Forces of Colombia (FARC – some factions)
  • ELN (Colombia)
  • DHKP-C (Turkey)
 
Did I say all Muslims are terrorists?

That’s a statement I condemn.

However most designated terror organizations have the Islamic touch for the lack of a better word. Now that’s a statement I don’t endorse or condemn but the facts hit you hard in the face.
Most terror organizations designated by who and controlled by who?

Everyday new information is coming to light on who pulls the strings and how the strings are pulled when it comes to radical extremists and terrorists. I know you love to talk about "Islamic" touch but we all know the hands behind this radicalization.

If we are really honest, there are terrorist states in the world who have caused widespread wars and death in the world and have nothing to do with muslims. Most death and terrorism has affected Muslim countries in fact, since the word "terrorism" was coined. You have to be extremely brainwashed by the western media to not realize that.

Al Qaeda, ISIS, Taliban, they all had non Muslim hands in their creation.
 
HAMAS is another one that was created and managed and even funded by Israel. You wont believe me but there are articles written on that topic.
 
Al Qaeda, ISIS, Taliban, they all had non Muslim hands in their creation.
What religion to they quote? They have a separate book/moral guide?

Does it matter who created them? Maybe sure indirectly they should get the blame and probably make them more dangerous but they are not the ones blowing up buildings, trains and market places.
 
What religion to they quote? They have a separate book/moral guide?

Does it matter who created them? Maybe sure indirectly they should get the blame and probably make them more dangerous but they are not the ones blowing up buildings, trains and market places.
Aye, look at this guy, man really woke up and said, “English? Optional.”

Bro out here confusing sanitation with smell like they’re interchangeable settings on a Febreze bottle, and then has the confidence to lecture everyone about how people twist passages to fit their political narratives.

My guy, you can’t even twist a dictionary correctly.
 
What religion to they quote? They have a separate book/moral guide?

Does it matter who created them? Maybe sure indirectly they should get the blame and probably make them more dangerous but they are not the ones blowing up buildings, trains and market places.
When you weaponize religion, no matter who does it or how it gets weaponized, violence is going to occur. There was terrorism in Ireland caused by the weaponization of religion as well. There is weaponization of political ideologies in history as well.

Most death and destruction is caused by American armed forced and the Israelis in the middle east. Even right now, the death toll in Iran is much higher than that of Jews and Americans. Jews have caused more death and destruction than Muslims put togther in that region and look at their numbers. These are not opinions but facts.
 
Aye, look at this guy, man really woke up and said, “English? Optional.”

Bro out here confusing sanitation with smell like they’re interchangeable settings on a Febreze bottle, and then has the confidence to lecture everyone about how people twist passages to fit their political narratives.

My guy, you can’t even twist a dictionary correctly.

Thanks for your contribution to the topic, since you are a well groomed man, suggest use some cream for the backside for the burning smell coming out. Exit this way 👉
 
Thanks for your contribution to the topic, since you are a well groomed man, suggest use some cream for the backside for the burning smell coming out. Exit this way 👉
Contribution? Have you read your comments? You are the text book definition of repeating 90's talking points, take that away, all you are left with, I'm in love with Modi.
 
When you weaponize religion, no matter who does it or how it gets weaponized, violence is going to occur. There was terrorism in Ireland caused by the weaponization of religion as well. There is weaponization of political ideologies in history as well.

Most death and destruction is caused by American armed forced and the Israelis in the middle east. Even right now, the death toll in Iran is much higher than that of Jews and Americans. Jews have caused more death and destruction than Muslims put togther in that region and look at their numbers. These are not opinions but facts.

Then the question is based on what you have said above not my words.

America weaponized Islam via Taliban.

Hindu atrocities caused all the jihadis in Kashmir.

Israel created Isis.

How come Muslims seem the low hanging fruit for everyone to radicalize?
 
When you weaponize religion, no matter who does it or how it gets weaponized, violence is going to occur. There was terrorism in Ireland caused by the weaponization of religion as well. There is weaponization of political ideologies in history as well.

Most death and destruction is caused by American armed forced and the Israelis in the middle east. Even right now, the death toll in Iran is much higher than that of Jews and Americans. Jews have caused more death and destruction than Muslims put togther in that region and look at their numbers. These are not opinions but facts.
Kyu apna time waste kar raha bhai?
 
How come Hindutva has such a large following despite claiming to be one of the most educated people? Like why would all Indians go on lynching spree?
 
See, it flew right over your head, I called it. Not even a close miss, that comment cleared you like airport security.

And then you went and tagged Uncle Robinson and his chaddi sidekick like it’s the Avengers assembling.

Honestly, you’re the kind of gift that keeps on giving, no occasion needed, just nonstop entertainment.
 
Personal freedom just means what you do in your own personal life, that's how I understood it. Once it's in the public domain and impacting others, then it becomes a public issue. Islamic countries are definitely more restrictive than western in this regard, but at the same time, as you have said, every country and society has their own restrictions based upon their own belief system.
If I choose to come out as gay (not that it's a choice) and I'm told it's illegal, is that a personal or a public freedom I'm losing per your definition?

Or neither?
 
Islamic countries also have varying degrees of freedom, not all are the same. I am not sure which one in particular you have in mind when you say this.
Maybe this is a discussion for another thread since I didn't intend to conflate this with Islamophobia and Hinduism but I'm okay to discuss any particular country.

My general contention is that countries driven by religion don't particularly value personal freedoms...in fact, they're more than likely are against them. Whether the original reference book allows personal freedoms or not (in most cases it doesn't), religious leaders running countries don't like people exercising freedoms since they're pretty sure they know what people should be doing better than the people themselves.

Most religious countries in the world are Islamic and we can debate whether they're more or less amenable to personal freedoms than secular countries. Note that I'm not saying all secular countries are perfect so we'd have to debate relatively not in absolutes.
 
Maybe this is a discussion for another thread since I didn't intend to conflate this with Islamophobia and Hinduism but I'm okay to discuss any particular country.

My general contention is that countries driven by religion don't particularly value personal freedoms...in fact, they're more than likely are against them. Whether the original reference book allows personal freedoms or not (in most cases it doesn't), religious leaders running countries don't like people exercising freedoms since they're pretty sure they know what people should be doing better than the people themselves.

Most religious countries in the world are Islamic and we can debate whether they're more or less amenable to personal freedoms than secular countries. Note that I'm not saying all secular countries are perfect so we'd have to debate relatively not in absolutes.

Please define personal freedoms?

Edit, i read it your other comments, do you mean by people coming out with their personal sexual orientation?
 
Maybe this is a discussion for another thread since I didn't intend to conflate this with Islamophobia and Hinduism but I'm okay to discuss any particular country.

My general contention is that countries driven by religion don't particularly value personal freedoms...in fact, they're more than likely are against them. Whether the original reference book allows personal freedoms or not (in most cases it doesn't), religious leaders running countries don't like people exercising freedoms since they're pretty sure they know what people should be doing better than the people themselves.

Most religious countries in the world are Islamic and we can debate whether they're more or less amenable to personal freedoms than secular countries. Note that I'm not saying all secular countries are perfect so we'd have to debate relatively not in absolutes.
It happens when states use religion as a system of control, i.e politicization of religion. Abrahamic religions have very clear and visible declarations on what shall or shall not be done. Its how they are implemented in human society is what determines the level of freedom.

You could say the same about political ideologies as well. Communism and Socialism have had varying degrees of freedom (or lack thereof). Even in a democracy, one could make a case for limited personal freedoms if they are voted on by a vast majority on the basis of their religious beliefs. So you may have a separation of church and state but people may still vote otherwise. Sexual orientation laws could be a good example of that.

My purpose of writing all this is just to make a point you cannot entirely or squarely state theocracies have limited liberties because in a man-made political system, it will all boil down to a level of control which can be orchestrated no matter what.
 
Please define personal freedoms?

Edit, i read it your other comments, do you mean by people coming out with their personal sexual orientation?
That's one of them yes. I threw a few more in the quoted posts below...mostly repeated.
Freedom to do something within four walls when no-one's watching is not personal freedom. If that's how you're going to define it, North Korea qualifies as well.

Personal freedoms for me are to do with what you can say, who and how you can worship, your sexual orientation, privacy etc.
By Public freedoms, I thought you meant the freedom to participate in the political process, freedom to show public dissent, protest etc.

Islamic countries recognise neither of these as far as I know. You're right that Western countries recognise them to different degrees - some better than others but it's getting worse.

I'm suprised. I thought it's generally accepted that the Islamic world in general and Islamic countries specifically are against personal freedoms.

Freedom of speech is restricted by prohibitions on blasphemy, on proselytisation of religions other than Islam etc.
Freedom of religion is restricted by the prohibition to renounce Islam
Freedom of expression by limits on decent (whatever that means) clothing, bans on homosexuality

The Western world in general and Western democracies in particular for a long while believed in personal freedoms and held by those beliefs. Unfortunately, they're moving away from these principles as well - bans on religious clothing like Burqas, controls on press freedom etc.
 
As per google its 2018.whenever it is, that's subsidy from public tax is downright shameful.ideallly , it should be abolished as soon as secularism was introduced in 76.

Nothing shameful. It was done to help a minority in fulfilling a basic tenet of faith. Also , I think only it was done in Air India .
 
I will most certainly answer EVERY SINGLE question that you have no matter how controversial or politically incorrect it might be on this topic. However I'am most certain that you will slip away from this debate when you find yourself on the wrong side of it.

So in the best interest of time I want you and the mods to confirm to this standard of debate listed below


My own rules of this debate:

I will NEVER EVER ABUSE/INSULT/MOCK/RIDICULE/DIS-RESPECT your beliefs.


However if YOU cross the line I will guarantee you that you will get at-least twice as much in return.



Confirm that you have that sort of discipline , etiquette and rigor before you indulge in this debate.



from my side I will guaranteed you that you will always get a blunt/straightforward answer to your questions no matterr how controversial .. as I am very very very secure with my beliefs and religion.



but I am very sure that you will never be able to hold yourselves to that standard(time will tell).

Go ahead and confirm that you have this sort of appetite for a TRULY serious mature discussion.

No need to get triggered.

Just answer how cow protection is part of Hinduism. For example If i say that pork is prohibited in Islam , I will show evidence of that.

And if it is important , then why do you want to enforce your faith on other people?
 
No need to get triggered.

Just answer how cow protection is part of Hinduism. For example If i say that pork is prohibited in Islam , I will show evidence of that.

And if it is important , then why do you want to enforce your faith on other people?
Is eating cow mandatory in Islam?
 
No need to get triggered.

Just answer how cow protection is part of Hinduism. For example If i say that pork is prohibited in Islam , I will show evidence of that.

And if it is important , then why do you want to enforce your faith on other people?
In Germany doing the Nazi salute is banned. It’s just a gesture.

So by the same benchmark since you wanted “documented evidence” well be it early Islamic conquests, Goan xtian inquisition or some parts of British rule they used killing cows and hanging up their carcasses on temples, force feeding local
Hindus beef etc to subjugate the local populace. India was an agrarian society meaning farming and dairy business was a huge part of the culture. You go to villages even today in India, people have cows etc as house pets. Rule no1- don’t eat your house pet.

So this is why the question becomes even more important, is eating cow that important for Muslims?
 
Then the question is based on what you have said above not my words.

America weaponized Islam via Taliban.

Hindu atrocities caused all the jihadis in Kashmir.

Israel created Isis.

How come Muslims seem the low hanging fruit for everyone to radicalize?
In case you have not been noticing, the whole world is actually making a mockery of this particular school of thought.

Because exactly what you are referring to are conflicts mostly started by non muslim states or actors and then they eventually resulted in radicalization. Why they were started, well we all know why. If it was not to beat back another super power (Soviet Union), it was for oil (Iraq).

And in case you are not well versed in current affairs or history, similar conflicts have been waged in Venezuela, Cuba, Vietnam, Korea. etc. (non-muslim countries).


You are not really breaking new ground here, I am repeating a point I have made on quite a few threads here where people tend to regurgitate the western media and their hypocrisy. Why do some muslim states find most dipliplomatic support coming from Latin American countries? I bet you didnt even know that. They are staunchly Christian countries and yet they have suffered at the hands of the same neo imperialist powers.

But I am sure this post will fall on deaf hindutva ears as usual. I might as well copy and save it for pasting in a different thread. :facepalm
 
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