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Why did Pakistan’s coach and captain choose to bowl first against India — A decision that appeared questionable?

This is their first match at this specific ground.

Plus, the ground history suggests chasing is the way to go. However, the reality is India will win most games against Pakistan regardless of whether they bat or bowl first just based on the quality of their players.

One thing they need to do is adding more batting depth moving forward.
 
It was a shocking decision. It is one of the toughest grounds in the world to chase under lights.
 
It was a strategic call to do this and to delay Usman Qadir spell.

They’re saving him for the final.

Let’s not forget that in the grand scheme of thinks, this is but still, a dead rubber, brother.
 
Because they couldn’t chase 120 last time at least they stretched the match out this time.
 
Agha tried to be macho. Didn't realise the phattu's he had in the batting, including himself.

Everyone knew Pakistan wouldn't be able to chase even 140 even if they bowled at their best and restricted India to that score.
 
When the gulf is this wide, weaker side's only chance is the superior side overestimating the target and falling short massively in that overconfidence.

Pakistan gave themselves the only chance they had.
 
This is a horror pitch. Absolutely horrific decision to bowl first. Even 145 would have been very tough for India to chase on this pitch with pak spinners
 
Despite maybe doing the wrong thing by bowling first, some of the bowling by Abrar, Shadab, and Shaheen where just dreadful.
 
Did we ever lose by a bigger margin to India in the history of the format? We were already inferior and now the gulf is huge. India treated us as minnows and this is what happens when your players and captains get selected on parchis from a parchi chairman PCB whose expertise is polishing shoes of a dictator failed marshal. We deserve every bit of it and beyond. Congratulations India. They always turn up against us as the world champions that they currently are.
 
heddie19 said:
Did we ever lose by a bigger margin to India in the history of the format? We were already inferior and now the gulf is huge. India treated us as minnows and this is what happens when your players and captains get selected on parchis from a parchi chairman PCB whose expertise is polishing shoes of a dictator failed marshal. We deserve every bit of it and beyond. Congratulations India. They always turn up against us as the world champions that they currently are.
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Gulf is not that huge in T20s but playing serial losers like shadab, shaheen and babar is asking for losses.
 
As I said in other thread we should have batted first but the gap is too big that toss is immaterial really.
 
I think bowling first wasn't a bad decision but they must choose their playing XI better.
 
Pitch looked better to bat in the second half. Pakistan didn't have a good powerplay chasing
 
Major said:
Lol, i find it funny that there are people that think decision would had mattered gere
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For weaker teams, best chance is to bat first and put runs on the board.

If you are weak and you go against the run of play, you deserve this.
 
It was an awful decision, while the brainless bowling made it sound even worse.

What I noticed that Pak spin bowlers were slowing the ball down far more than Indians. When the wicket is already sluggish, a spinner should avoid slowing it down further for bats to mistime the ball. Instead, Pak spinners pulled the ball which allowed Indians to adjust to the slow nature of the wicket.

All in all, a very stupidly selected team got outwitted by the opposition.
 
India these days find a way. They deliberately dropped one batsman shot and players out of position against NZ as a practice. Even that match they could have won but for non strike run out of Dube.
 
hassan918 said:
I think bowling first wasn't a bad decision but they must choose their playing XI better.
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exactly they always tend to mess up the playing eleven in particular when they play vs India, Fakhar, Nafay and one of naseem or Mirza should have been played, maybe we still would have lost, but I can assure you the showing would have looked a lot better than what we saw today.
 
thelandofthebravepeople said:
Won a lucky game against Netherland and got absolutely humiliated by India - Once again. So embarrasing. But congratulation you are still in the tournament. More humiliation loading up for Pakistan.
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Relax.

Pakistan can still come back. What do you want people to say? That we stop playing and go home?
 
Wouldn't have made no difference.

Batting first, this pathetic line up wouldn't have scored more than 130.

The gulf is just too big between the team.

Its becoming virtually impossible for Pak to beat India in all formats
 
Doesn’t matter why. Whatever decision they’d have opted for, would not change the outcome of the game.

Pakistani players are mentally fragile, scared and have severe inferior complex. They never showed up. They were so poor that they lacked the basic fundamentals like line and length, slowing the game down, playing in accordance to field.

These tactical threads have become boring now - the only solution is the improve grassroot level cricket and invest in psychologist etc to change their mindset and subconscious fear.
 
One wonders what the Pakistan coach was typing seeing as they totally got the tactics wrong
 
It would not have made any difference. India is a high quality team that can adapt and win under any conditions. Just look at the destructive match winning knock by Ishan after India lost a wicket for no run. (y) Simply put Pakistan are no match for India.
 
Pakistan best chance to beat India, was to have 3 seamers, and play 3 spinners, Pakistan did the same mistake in 1st match at Asia cup, and they did the same mistake, with overloading spinners, so who is to blame, coach, captain or both.
 
Bowling 1st was complete bongi, nevertheless the way we collapsed in batting it didn't mattered
 
They need Ranas hairdryer treatment for even thinking they'll chase with Agha at 3 and Babar at 4 Shaheen and Faheem out for a fast bowler and Fakhar. One of the openers will have to make a score in 3 out of 4 matches including semi final to have a chance of making final.
 
They won't drop Babar Faheem will have to be dropped for Fakhar if he doesn't bowl better to have a proper batsman given how bad the middle order is.
 
Varun said:
We all know what is likely going to happen.

If Pakistan bat first:

Pak: 147/8
Ind: 149/3

If India bat first:

Ind: 191/6
Pak: 144 a.o.
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What did I tell you?

In fact Pakistan weren't even as competitive.
 
Why do they keep making these bone-headed decisions against India of all teams? The last two or three wins have been handed to them. Strange team
 
Bhaijaan said:
It was a strategic call to do this and to delay Usman Qadir spell.

They’re saving him for the final.

Let’s not forget that in the grand scheme of thinks, this is but still, a dead rubber, brother.
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If you bowl Usman Tariq up front or bring him later in the game, what's the difference?
 
After loosing so many matches to India, still Pak tend to ask is why didn't Pak bat first..if they lost the match after batting first, then they would have told why didn't bowl first since the stats show the team which chased have more matches won in that ground..for once accept the reality without any ifs and buts..
 
Bat or bowl first, it would have been a one sided game.

I genuinely don't think pak will every beat India again in any of the formats
 
Honestly at the toss I was happy. I thought now Pak might be in with a chance, knowing what they’re chasing. Little did I know the collapse would be to this extent. Embarrassing batting really.
 
This was pure minnow mindset.

You bowl first hoping to “contain” because deep down you know you cannot outplay.

Agha’s first over move gave a flicker of hope, but the tactics were clueless otherwise. You hype a mystery spinner all week and then hide him while Ishan Kishan is taking you apart? That is not strategy. That is panic.

Toss or no toss, this India side wins 9 out of 10 against this Pakistan team. If they meet again at the knockouts, the only real pressure will be the stage. Not the opposition.
 
Cricfan4eva said:
This was pure minnow mindset.

You bowl first hoping to “contain” because deep down you know you cannot outplay.

Agha’s first over move gave a flicker of hope, but the tactics were clueless otherwise. You hype a mystery spinner all week and then hide him while Ishan Kishan is taking you apart? That is not strategy. That is panic.

Toss or no toss, this India side wins 9 out of 10 against this Pakistan team. If they meet again at the knockouts, the only real pressure will be the stage. Not the opposition.
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To be honest, India is far and away the best team in this World Cup, and they would do this to a lot of teams on this ground.

I mean Australia couldn’t chase 169 on this ground against Zimbabwe, which is nowhere near this Indian bowling attack so imagine how they would have fared tonight.

It’s a difficult pitch to chase and has been proven in both day and night games, so you have to give yourselves the best chance by maximizing the opportunity.

Both Hesson and Agha are defending their decisions, which sucks and proves they won’t learn.
 
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Cpt. Rishwat said:
Pakistan is a particularly bad team these days, I think they would lose regardless, but the decision was still woeful.
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they've just done really well against Australia and South Africa. In reality they just bowled a couple of bad over (ssa and shadab) and batted a couple of bad overs (first 2-3). Other than that they had a chance. It’s a dead rubber they are still trying to get the combination right.
 
Good teams handle pressure off the field as well. Handling pressure off the field means you make the right selections based on the pitch, opposition and toss decisions. It appears the Pakistani team management over thinks and over complicates things under pressure when playing against India.
 
pakistani pride said:
Gulf is not that huge in T20s but playing serial losers like shadab, shaheen and babar is asking for losses.
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You don't understand T20 cricket then. We don't have a single batter like Tilak let's not even talk about Kishan, Sharma, SKY etc. And we don't have a single bowler half as good as Bumrah.
 
heddie19 said:
You don't understand T20 cricket then. We don't have a single batter like Tilak let's not even talk about Kishan, Sharma, SKY etc. And we don't have a single bowler half as good as Bumrah.
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Dont tell me what i understand. Any one still backing Babar has 0 clue about cricket.
 
“The outcome wouldn’t have been different so making the wrong decision after winning the toss didn’t matter”. In my opinion this is flawed thinking. Enough of this defeatism.

Decision-making is what we can control, not outcomes. Agha-Hesson duo made this questionable decision and are being rightly blasted for it but not enough. Playing 8 bowling options was also simply put a stupid decision.
 
I hope this is thoroughly investigated by anti corruption department because I hate to admit but I smell fish bro. :shakib
 
OP made a pretty simple and straight-forward thread about a pretty simple and straight-forward question, but mods have changed the title and given it a special flavor. :butt
You guys certainly know how to keep the conversation going. :asif
 
Ball turned much more more in first innings.

It was the right decision to chass
 
Toss is just a way of starting the game.. yeah but it gets click bait views like it's some mythical decision that decided the game because people in the SC fall for this.. Ind would have won even if they chased as they are the better team simple as that..
 
Was the correct choice, even more so with the wicket of the opener in the very 1st over. Playing SSA and giving way the momentum is where the first shot was fired back. Pitch and conditions can only do so much, but its the players to perform. Shadab also bowled very poor and Abrar had on off day.

Maybe batting 1st Pak would have scored between 135 - 155 still think India would have chased it easily given the fact that Shadab and SSA would around 4 overs between them.
 
Ball spun more in 1st innings than 2 innings. So it was a right decision. Had Pakistan batted first they wouldn't have crossed 120 still.
 
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