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Why do Pakistani cricketers never know when to retire?

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Over the years most Pakistani players retirements have become farcical. They hang onto the coat tails of the international team and even domestic cricket, without a proper farewell.

Is it the fault of the players or the Board that some glittering careers end with a whimper and no proper farewell?

Why does it have to end this way for so many Pakistani players?
 
Lack of psychological strength to plan and decide when to hang up their boots like how Imran Khan did. I think upbringing and education also plays a part in that. Our cricketers pre 90s came from educational outlets, overseas or even local. We don't see that anymore. Raw talent from local streets. There's no concept of "official" farewell. You don't see that in NFL or NBA.
 
Must be from the financial security point of view.

Malik and Afridi did announce their retirements when they were pretty much done for that formats. People didn't need to ask them. YK and Misbah have been very big disappointments. Just shows their selfishness. They want to fill their pockets at the expense of Pakistan team and place of a young player.
 
I'm only talking about Australian players, cricketers are encouraged to think about what they will do at the end of their careers work on a plan to get the training, finances, qualifications or whatever is required so there is a smooth transition from cricket to the next profession. Some players move on because they are ready to move on before they need to.

I dont know how the PCB approach this with Pakistan players but it seems that players need to play cricket for as long as possible and for the majority there is not much on offer once they cease playing cricket.
 
Welcome to the world of hero worship. Pakistan is not alone.India is right there with it . Heroes here become larger than the work they do. Hero worshippers have a feeling of being indebted eternally for work that their hero does for earning his living! They find enough people to support them to continue even if they are crap in their work. Everyone from common man to the people in charge of running the show aren't immune to this disease.:srini
 
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Very few Pakistani players have retired with grace, Malik and Akhtar are the only ones that come to mind in recent years. Most have had to be dropped. Seems like this tradition will have to continue..
 
Malik and Afridi did announce their retirements when they were pretty much done for that formats. People didn't need to ask them. YK and Misbah have been very big disappointments. Just shows their selfishness. They want to fill their pockets at the expense of Pakistan team and place of a young player.

Incredible hypocrisy. Afridi is the primary example of a selfish player not knowing when to call it quits.

Afridi should've retired from ODIs well before the 2015 WC and he's still clinging onto his T20I career despite promising to quit after the World Cup.

And when Afridi did call it quits in Tests, he did it at the worst possible moment retiring halfway through the Australia series in England leaving the team in the lurch, allowing fixer Butt to take over.

We don't need any lessons on retirement from Shahid Afridi.
 
I'm only talking about Australian players, cricketers are encouraged to think about what they will do at the end of their careers work on a plan to get the training, finances, qualifications or whatever is required so there is a smooth transition from cricket to the next profession. Some players move on because they are ready to move on before they need to.

I dont know how the PCB approach this with Pakistan players but it seems that players need to play cricket for as long as possible and for the majority there is not much on offer once they cease playing cricket.

This is a very good post.
And i agree 100%.
PCB needs to start something like this, maybe some workshops to make players think about their options after they retire. This way they will be mentally readym
 
Recent examples who retired with grace and respect:

Misbah ul Haq. Gun t20 player. Retired at peak


Misbah Ul Haq. One of our highest scorers in 2015 World Cup. Retired with grace.

Malik. Tests retired with grace.
[MENTION=57576]MRSN[/MENTION] is showing hypocrisy.

Misbah- will retire with grace if he goes on WI tour. At peak, just won us Tests in England.
 
There is no real life for them after cricket.. In India you can do commentary, coaching, run a cricket clinic, IPL, run a business with what you earned. You even get decent package as pension if i am right. Not sure Pakistan cricketers have any thing. May be some super star players have something.
 
Recent examples who retired with grace and respect:

Misbah ul Haq. Gun t20 player. Retired at peak


Misbah Ul Haq. One of our highest scorers in 2015 World Cup. Retired with grace.

Malik. Tests retired with grace.
[MENTION=57576]MRSN[/MENTION] is showing hypocrisy.

Misbah- will retire with grace if he goes on WI tour. At peak, just won us Tests in England.

Wow are you incredibly blinkered. Misbah is hanging on and on in Tests and is refusing to retire instead of letting a young captain have an easy tour. He also hung onto the ODI team till he was 40, absolutely ridiculous stuff. I am a big Misbah fan but people like you are the reason all Misbah fans are thrown in one category.
 
Wow are you incredibly blinkered. Misbah is hanging on and on in Tests and is refusing to retire instead of letting a young captain have an easy tour. He also hung onto the ODI team till he was 40, absolutely ridiculous stuff. I am a big Misbah fan but people like you are the reason all Misbah fans are thrown in one category.

Again you bring age into the context.. What has age got to do with the fact that he was performing YET he called it quits?
 
Pakistani cricketers simply don't know when to retire. They've lost all standards of self respect. Younis Khan should retire after his 10,000 runs but he wants to carry on for another 5 years. He's even said it. Saeed Ajmal wont retire either. And then there's the case of all these blokes who are around 40, don't play domestics, once played for Pakistan but refused to announce retirement in hopes of getting picked. Rana Naved Ul Hasan, Abdul Razzaq, MoYo, Tanvir Ahmad and so many more examples.

The bigger problem is that Misbah and Younis have set the trend that players can go on until 40 or even older than that so I expect most Pakistani cricketers to be thinking of retiring that age too.
 
Again you bring age into the context.. What has age got to do with the fact that he was performing YET he called it quits?

Because in our cricketing culture one 'senior' hanging on gives ten other useless seniors the same excuse to hang on. Hafeez, YK, Afridi are three big examples.

Misbah is not performing any longer in Tests. The WI tour is a great chance for a new captain to settle in, absolute disgrace that he is refusing to retire.
 
Pakistani cricketers simply don't know when to retire. They've lost all standards of self respect. Younis Khan should retire after his 10,000 runs but he wants to carry on for another 5 years. He's even said it. Saeed Ajmal wont retire either. And then there's the case of all these blokes who are around 40, don't play domestics, once played for Pakistan but refused to announce retirement in hopes of getting picked. Rana Naved Ul Hasan, Abdul Razzaq, MoYo, Tanvir Ahmad and so many more examples.

The bigger problem is that Misbah and Younis have set the trend that players can go on until 40 or even older than that so I expect most Pakistani cricketers to be thinking of retiring that age too.

Kamran akmal went on record to say that if misbah can play till 43 so can he. I wonder if he'll even have those teeth of his that time let alone good performances.
 
Again you bring age into the context.. What has age got to do with the fact that he was performing YET he called it quits?

That is a myth peddled by Misbah fans like yourself and Hawkeye to show that gentleman Misbah the savior left us when he was hitting centuries for fun. This is Misbah's ODI record in his last year of ODI cricket:

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You do realize that in this day and age, every statement that is made can be verified by numbers and an average of 37 at 72 SR can only classified as 'performing' in Misbah school of batting. It is also pertinent to mention that off those 5 fifties 2 came against UAE and Zimbabwe.
 
Recent examples who retired with grace and respect:

Misbah ul Haq. Gun t20 player. Retired at peak


Misbah Ul Haq. One of our highest scorers in 2015 World Cup. Retired with grace.

Malik. Tests retired with grace.
[MENTION=57576]MRSN[/MENTION] is showing hypocrisy.

Misbah- will retire with grace if he goes on WI tour. At peak, just won us Tests in England.

Misbah retired at peak with grace in ODIs??:))):)):)))

Is this joke? Did not SHK had to come in media and deny the rumors that Misbah was being sacked as a captain and Afridi would be made captain for the ODI world cup during series against NZ in UAE? Misbah was so bad in the year 2014 that he was benched or officially *rested* and Afridi was the captain for few ODIs in the middle of the series. Misbah cling on the team despite having horrible 2014 only for the sake getting farewell at the world cup just like Younis Khan.
 
My guess would be it has a lot to with uncertainty regarding financial security.

These players have families and mouths to feed at home, just like anyone else. They have usually come from poor backgrounds, and - without being disrespectful - usually haven't obtained any sort of significant education which would allow them to explore different career paths after retirement.

Once they hang up their boots their only choices are to either sit and chat on TV channels every now and then, or try to look for some coaching deal. If they coach within Pakistan, there is no real financial gain there and likewise, if they sit on Pakistani news channels, you aren't really earning much either. Just look at the likes of how Mohammad Yousuf and co. ended up.

Unless you are a superstar player - the likes of Imran, Wasim and Waqar - after retirement, due to the lack of any real Players Association or retirement plans in Pakistani cricket, you really do not have much financial support or backing. The likes of Mushtaq Ahmed, Saqi & Azhar Mahmood were smart to get out, and move to England when they did. In doing so they secured pretty good coaching as well as county cricket opportunities.

However, as sad and harsh as it may sound, for the majority of players, once they retire, they are likely to have considerable financial struggles due to the lack of any significant income, and on top of that, you add the fact that they lose all the attention & respect which they have grown accustomed to receiving.

Doesn't sound like something anyone would rush towards. Specially someone who has had it pretty rough for the first 20-30 years of their lives and have only really been earning a significant income for 5-10 years, like majority of these players have.

The PSL (and other leagues around the world) could help resolve this issue going forward, however, even that is not a concrete solution to the problem. Players may feel more comfortable retiring from international cricket, since they know they can earn some good money playing for these leagues around the world, however, for a lot of players this wont be an option either.

At the end of the day - cash is king.
 
Recent examples who retired with grace and respect:

Misbah ul Haq. Gun t20 player. Retired at peak


Misbah Ul Haq. One of our highest scorers in 2015 World Cup. Retired with grace.

Malik. Tests retired with grace.
[MENTION=57576]MRSN[/MENTION] is showing hypocrisy.

Misbah- will retire with grace if he goes on WI tour. At peak, just won us Tests in England.

hahahah he was thrown out of t20 he wanted to come back did u forget?//
 
because of poor standards/examples set in past.
U bring back 35 yr old Imran after 1987 WC
And he continue to cpatain Pak till 40 .
Still talked/hyped up captain till today, so every other player wanna go out with one last hurrah.
Blame goes to PCB as well.
 
My guess would be it has a lot to with uncertainty regarding financial security.

These players have families and mouths to feed at home, just like anyone else. They have usually come from poor backgrounds, and - without being disrespectful - usually haven't obtained any sort of significant education which would allow them to explore different career paths after retirement.

Once they hang up their boots their only choices are to either sit and chat on TV channels every now and then, or try to look for some coaching deal. If they coach within Pakistan, there is no real financial gain there and likewise, if they sit on Pakistani news channels, you aren't really earning much either. Just look at the likes of how Mohammad Yousuf and co. ended up.

Unless you are a superstar player - the likes of Imran, Wasim and Waqar - after retirement, due to the lack of any real Players Association or retirement plans in Pakistani cricket, you really do not have much financial support or backing. The likes of Mushtaq Ahmed, Saqi & Azhar Mahmood were smart to get out, and move to England when they did. In doing so they secured pretty good coaching as well as county cricket opportunities.

However, as sad and harsh as it may sound, for the majority of players, once they retire, they are likely to have considerable financial struggles due to the lack of any significant income, and on top of that, you add the fact that they lose all the attention & respect which they have grown accustomed to receiving.

Doesn't sound like something anyone would rush towards. Specially someone who has had it pretty rough for the first 20-30 years of their lives and have only really been earning a significant income for 5-10 years, like majority of these players have.

The PSL (and other leagues around the world) could help resolve this issue going forward, however, even that is not a concrete solution to the problem. Players may feel more comfortable retiring from international cricket, since they know they can earn some good money playing for these leagues around the world, however, for a lot of players this wont be an option either.

At the end of the day - cash is king.

It can be many other reasons but not financial for sure - I can explain why.

First, there is no limit of how much you can earn - PAK players can point finger to Indian players - but then players like Hulk is paid $4mn/month in China or some of the wage figures in EPL, MLB, NBA or NFL are astronomically high. This type of comparison is moot - you can compare with only purchasing parity of your market.

Why not financial to prolong their career - because it's not the average players that earns $20K in whole year are lingering with their retirement. Rather, it's the established stars that has contacts all over the place after more than a decade enjoying the stardom are doing this in the name of serving the country.

I gave a rough estimate long back of how much a PAK player is taking home annually - even if I take an average player (not MoHa or Sarfu who are in Cat A & regular for 3 formats), roughly this is what a player is earning every year (PKRp)

PCB central contract - 2.5mn
Match fee & others (allowance at tours, bonus, price money..) - 2.5mn
Club/FC match fee & contracts 2.0mn
Endorsement share from individual & PCB - 2.0mn
Other private leagues/tournaments - 1.0mn

That's about 10mn/year - more or less if I take a fringe player like Hasan Ali or Imad should earn in a year at least.

Now a career is around 20 years starting at 18 at FC level & finishing at 38 even if I take a retirement from FC/domestics at that age. If I take just 50% (considering that at 19 he won't earn that much) - we are talking about 100mn PAK rupee by the age of 38. We should also consider that these players are insured from PCB/FC/Club teams for their treatment, accommodation, travelling, food & kits; therefore their earning is almost left intact.

If I take 35% out as tax, still someone like Nawaz 18 years later should earn at least 75mn from his career. Besides, these players are earning this money at their early age - they are crore pati before the age of an engineer or doctor even starts earning.

Unless they blow their fortune behind cheap entertainment & rather invest that money to safest of assets (say real state), by the age of 40, they should own at least 5 apartments at downtown Lahore, Karachi or Islamabad earning close to half a million per month just from rent with the asset value increasing by every hour. They have star power from which these people can invest in assets that enhanced by their brand - restaurants, departmental stores, food brands etc.

This is I am talking for fringe players like Anwar Ali, Nawaz or Imad or Hasan Ali - players who'll be dropped any how. If I take it to our target group - Misbah, YK, MoHa, Miandad .... this figure will be multiplied by at least 5 & often, these people are employed in some capacity for their cricket career. Besides, most of these players are corporate employe in PAK domestic system - Banks & other Corporates, which ensures them a pension & gratuity. Like Butt is a VP at NBL; MoHa is at a higher position at SSGC ....

Of course, people'll argue that Kobe Bryant still earning $25mn for his last year playing 10% of matches - but that can't be standard. Money never becomes too much - if you think that every year you need to change your BMW then this logic of financial security applies. But, for a very secured & dignified life with family & kids, players like Misbah, YK, MoHa or Ajmal doesn't need to do this.


I hear lot about the income of PAK players, which is a bit bluffing to me - compared to Eco social status of the society, the economics of the game (cricket is not soccer or Golf or tennis) & the performance of these players - actually top tier of PAK players earn too much - if I compare it with Hasan Sardar, Shahbaz or Sohail Abbas - the likes of MoHa or Malik or Misbah or YK or Amir or Afridi should be shamed enough to leave it silently.
 
Also some big names of cricket, their bwoards announced their farewell series, doesn't mean that they left with grace.
Like Ponting had like avg of 32 in his last 2 years, 19 tests
Sachin had avg of 31 in last 2 years of tests, in 17 test with no hundred.
Will anyone question Steyn not knowing when to retire? As he just play 7-8 tests in last 2 years because of injuries and now almost 34 years old.
 
Remember how a kid behaves when he sees a toy shop. He just wants a toy - not anything in particular but just something to take with him. Remember how the same kid throws a tantrum when he is not allowed that luxury.

This has nothing but one thing in common with a Pakistani player and his retirement.

Lack of maturity or understanding or what you may call - which is the answer to the question.
 
Pathetic posts above by so-called senior posters here. People simply defending their favourites and will continue to put their favourites above the team as always. This is exactly why our country is in dire straits; jahil qaum will continue to pledge allegiance to their respective parties and will vote for them regardless of their performance.

Same is being done here in cricket. You see people defending Misbah out of all people, when he is one of the most selfish players to play for Pakistan.

Very good post by [MENTION=138254]Syed1[/MENTION] that should shut a couple of people up.
 
Cook's example one to follow perhaps?
 
It could be perhaps the crazy fan following that these Asian players will be missing when they retire.

Asian players enjoy rock-star status for over a decade and suddenly if they have to lose all of it by retiring, probably hard for them to take. They will hang on for as long as possible for fame and money (even if it means actually losing some fans respect in the process).
 
Let's be honest for a minute. Let's say Misbah had retired before the AUS/NZ tours. I hope we all can accept the fact that Misbah or no Misbah, we would have been crushed regardless. So how many threads would be open demanding Misbah take back retirement? How many people would have criticized him for leaving before difficult tours knowing the team would struggle? This is the real question we have to answer, and no doubt, what compelled him to keep going. Maybe I'm wrong, but I feel that the majority of you that are criticizing him for staying, would have also criticized him for going if he had left prior to AUS/NZ tours and we got crushed. I think the only way he could have come out of this with his legacy intact is if he stayed for these tours and actually performed well, which clearly did not happen. So it was a lose-lose situation for him, but I'd like to think that retiring prior to these tours was the easier decision and he chose to fight it out.

I'm not a blind fan so please don't throw those accusations around. I'm just deeply appreciative for his no-nonsense service to Pakistan cricket, and for being a calm head amidst a usual sea of chaos.
 
The simple reality is that they have no other skills and hence fear the future. Lets face it bar fighting Basit Ali for the job coaching our blind cricket team, there isnt much hope for employment after retirement.
 
The simple reality is that they have no other skills and hence fear the future. Lets face it bar fighting Basit Ali for the job coaching our blind cricket team, there isnt much hope for employment after retirement.

That's because these are lazy, passionless, unprofessional hopeless bunch. Just like you need to add skills & prepare for a new job, there is some prerequisites for a career transition. Most PAK star thinks they can shift from playing career to other roles in cricket just for their 10-15 years International career.

Many of them can take coaching courses & start careers from lower level; can prepare for roles like groundsmen, team manager in club or FC cricket. Those who are educated can apply for administrative roles in PCB, PSL or can join media. Obviously, it'll not earn them like their playing career, but it'll keep them busy & engaged. If everyone thinks that only worthy role is National Coach, Manager or Selector; or a assistant coach's role at NCA will pay them like Category A PCB central contract - then it's a problem.

Take this current team - MoHa has fantastic potential to become a top class Head Coach - for that, he needs to invest couple of years for Pro coaching badge from MCC or CA, same can be said for Razzak, YK. Malik can be very good on media, provided that he spends enough time to improve his vocabulary; Misbah & Azhar has great potential in administrative jobs .... this is if they want to be in some sort of salaried jobs - otherwise each has earned enough to start own business or joint ventures with few other friends.
 
Maybe it's a lack of post-retirement professional opportunities? An English player can become a commentator anywhere around the world or get into coaching one of the 2 dozen county teams and make decent money doing that. Not much money in doing any of that in Pakistan.
 
Smart Pakistani players start saving up for life after cricket in the last 3-4 years after Cricket. Inzamam, Mushtaq Ahmed, Saeed Anwar, Mohd Yousaf have invested in a Halal Meat chain which exports goods abroad. Inzamam and Salim Malik invested in a construction business which they can run on auto pilot.

Moin Khan owns his academy and cricket ground in defence and he definately gets a very comfortable amount from renting that ground for cricket tournaments, coaching clinics, music concerts and he also makes himself available for PSL coaching gigs and media gigs. I remember he disclosed that when he accepted the position of the manager, coach and chief selector with the PCB, he had to request his brother in London to come down to Pakistan and look after the academy and cricket stadium in defence in his abscence.

Shahid Afridi has invested very heavily in resteraunts, businesses, real estate and he runs his own foundation, he is not going to struggle at all after cricket, lol, he is still getting sponsorships and tv advertisements even in retirement and that will continue even when he leaves the game for good because such is his attractive appeal with the Pakistani nation.

Shoaib Akhtar in a recent interview admitted that he was stressed about life after retirement and he did face depression in the first 6-12 months after he left the game because there was just so much financial uncertainty and he had invested all his earnings in real estate and a family business. The autobiography bailed him out and the TV gigs he enjoyed on Geo Super, PTV Sports and then later in India enabled him to earn even more than he made during his playing career and now the guy has a 2 million plus thriving Youtube channel. So he is now beyond worrying about money after cricket.

We know Hafeez is a heavy real estate investor, i am certain he will be alright after cricket. He will easily be able to get tv gigs and coaching gigs and so will Malik.

The likes of Wasim, Waqar will always get top dollar either via commentary or coaching gigs.

Miandad demanded Rs 1.5 million a month as PCB Director General in 2008 when he was appointed, he demanded this amount because this is how much he was getting while he was affiliated with a tv news channel. So that tells you that the guy is not struggling at all financially.

Zaheer Abbas i remember when watching a Geo show Aik Din Geo Kay Saath, the guy had a posh house in Defence and his house was brightly lit, huge, everything decorated so aesthetically and he even had a big swimming pool. This clearly shows the man is not struggling financially at all.

The likes of Azhar Mahmood, Saqlain Mushtaq, Mushtaq Ahmed are all active coaches on the international circuit and even have their academies in the UK.

Overall i think most Pakistani players especially if they have brain cells once they reach a certain point in their careers will know the end is nigh where they will just not be considered for selection anymore and they will have to plan for their lives outside Cricket.
 
-They feel that they are fit enough to play

-They want to make as much money as they can

-Pakistanis worship senior players. Wasim Akram, Saeed Anwar and a few others could have played 3-4 more years if they wanted and nobody would really stop them.

-Thrill of playing for Pakistan, must be something you don’t ever want to let go of. Pakistan and India are loved teams with extremely passionate fans unlike all other countries who have decent fans but not die hard.

-Business, money to be made as long as you are in the game. One way or another
 
It’s PCB fault they should set a retirement age for players something like NBA where u know if a plAyer is 34 years old he won’t get the max contract
 
Ego, nothing else. They can not accept their time is up. They believe they still have it in them to play international cricket.
 
I guess it is difficult to leave something you really love.

Desi players are generally very emotional and it is even harder for them.
 
Wonder when and if Mohammad HAFEEZ will retire before he has to dropped

Hafeez should just go now as the WC T20 playing on time look very slim with each passing day - to which he said would retire after.

That's another thing, how come these seniors give themselves an automatic starting place regardless of performance?
 
Hafeez and Malik should have gone a decade ago. It is bizzare that 2 pretty mediocre players have have had a free decade. How much worse could the replacements been?
 
I think our players know when to retire. They just try to extended their careers as much as they can due to financial issues.
As we know these players do not get retirement plan, or any financial help form government. Most of our players are not even educated to run their business. Therefore, they try to play as much as they can to make money. lately some players are now investing money in business which is good for their future.
 
They feel like they can still contribute to playing for Pakistan. Three years ago Shoaib Malik was in a "good form" from the CPL and playing against Zimbabwe that he indicated that he wanted to play for Pakistan in all formats and that he wanted to play until 2020 Twenty20 World Cup. Despite this his form of the years has been disgusting to be warranted a guaranteed place in the Pakistan team.

Hafeez is a professor, he teaches the media how he manages to be around the Pakistan team like a bad stench that doesn't go away :inti
 
This is not limited to Pakistani players or cricketers. If football players had it their way, they would’ve continued playing until 45+ for some extra cash and fame as well. If I remember it correctly, quite a few players on the Egyptian world cup team were 35+.

I was watching a documentary on why Turkey isn’t a football powerhouse by DW. One of the main reasons for their mediocrity is the fact that Turkish managers favour old and unfit players over young and talented ones for various reasons.

A coach simply has to have the guts to discard old players and prioritize more talented and fit youngsters.

For example: John Terry, the Chelsea captain only transferred to Aston Villa because the Chelsea manager refused to play him in front of better players and basically told him that he is no longer needed at Chelsea despite being regarded as a Chelsea great and loved by Chelsea fans.
 
My guess would be it has a lot to with uncertainty regarding financial security.

These players have families and mouths to feed at home, just like anyone else. They have usually come from poor backgrounds, and - without being disrespectful - usually haven't obtained any sort of significant education which would allow them to explore different career paths after retirement.

Once they hang up their boots their only choices are to either sit and chat on TV channels every now and then, or try to look for some coaching deal. If they coach within Pakistan, there is no real financial gain there and likewise, if they sit on Pakistani news channels, you aren't really earning much either. Just look at the likes of how Mohammad Yousuf and co. ended up.

Unless you are a superstar player - the likes of Imran, Wasim and Waqar - after retirement, due to the lack of any real Players Association or retirement plans in Pakistani cricket, you really do not have much financial support or backing. The likes of Mushtaq Ahmed, Saqi & Azhar Mahmood were smart to get out, and move to England when they did. In doing so they secured pretty good coaching as well as county cricket opportunities.

However, as sad and harsh as it may sound, for the majority of players, once they retire, they are likely to have considerable financial struggles due to the lack of any significant income, and on top of that, you add the fact that they lose all the attention & respect which they have grown accustomed to receiving.

Doesn't sound like something anyone would rush towards. Specially someone who has had it pretty rough for the first 20-30 years of their lives and have only really been earning a significant income for 5-10 years, like majority of these players have.

The PSL (and other leagues around the world) could help resolve this issue going forward, however, even that is not a concrete solution to the problem. Players may feel more comfortable retiring from international cricket, since they know they can earn some good money playing for these leagues around the world, however, for a lot of players this wont be an option either.

At the end of the day - cash is king.

This hit the nail pretty well. When Pakistani players are playing and have played for a long while i.e. 5-10 years. They should be doing their utmost to invest their money wisely so that they have options after their playing careers are over.

Invest in solid English speaking and language classes so that you can improve your prospects of getting commentary roles, expert analysis role. With the plethora of Youtube channels opening up, players have an additional source of income now.

Heck Invest in a correspondence MBA program so that you can have something on your resume when you apply for a management role in the PCB or any other place.

You can invest in real estate and property so that you have some investment passive income to last you. Invest in businesses like a resteraunt to have something running in the background.

You can invest in top notch English County, PCB, ICC coaching certificates or even invest in a Sports Management Degree so that you are in the best position to apply for coaching roles and giving back to the country.

These are the most realistic avenues for players and what they can do once they hang up their boots. Obviously after playing for your country for a good 10-15-20 years, going back to the workforce and starting from scratch doesn't make sense.
 
This hit the nail pretty well. When Pakistani players are playing and have played for a long while i.e. 5-10 years. They should be doing their utmost to invest their money wisely so that they have options after their playing careers are over.

Invest in solid English speaking and language classes so that you can improve your prospects of getting commentary roles, expert analysis role. With the plethora of Youtube channels opening up, players have an additional source of income now.

Heck Invest in a correspondence MBA program so that you can have something on your resume when you apply for a management role in the PCB or any other place.

You can invest in real estate and property so that you have some investment passive income to last you. Invest in businesses like a resteraunt to have something running in the background.

You can invest in top notch English County, PCB, ICC coaching certificates or even invest in a Sports Management Degree so that you are in the best position to apply for coaching roles and giving back to the country.

These are the most realistic avenues for players and what they can do once they hang up their boots. Obviously after playing for your country for a good 10-15-20 years, going back to the workforce and starting from scratch doesn't make sense.

This calls for mehnat which a lot of our players aren't willing to do.
 
Recent examples who retired with grace and respect:

Misbah ul Haq. Gun t20 player. Retired at peak


Misbah Ul Haq. One of our highest scorers in 2015 World Cup. Retired with grace.

Malik. Tests retired with grace.
[MENTION=57576]MRSN[/MENTION] is showing hypocrisy.

Misbah- will retire with grace if he goes on WI tour. At peak, just won us Tests in England.

HAHAHA Misbah was DROPPED after the t20 series against England in 2012. This is the interview he gave afterwards http://www.pakpassion.net/ppforum/showthread.php?154208-Misbah-disappointed-after-T20-axe&p=4831788

"It is the board's and selectors' decision about me and T20 cricket but I feel that I can play in this format and will continue to do so at the domestic level,"

"I have the responsibility of leading Pakistan in Tests and ODIs and it is a tough challenge for me. I need to remain focussed on these formats. I don't think me being dropped from the T20 squad will affect my focus or job," Misbah said.


So that's Lie Number 1

In his last t20i match, Misbah came out at 49 for 2 chasing just 130. He got to just 21 from 24 balls but thanks to Umar Akmal and Shafiq, Pakistan needed 23 from the last 18 balls, to be bowled by Dernbach and Broad LOL, with 7 wickets in the hut. Misbah scored 7 from the 8 deliveries he faced (the only boundary being a ridiculous misfield) and was bowled on the last ball to lose Pakistan the game AND THE SERIES.

So that's lie number 2.

His rubbish ODI stats the year before he retired have also been posted so that's another lie.
 
Theres no concept of planning for life after cricket - cricket is the only job they know or want

Theres needs to be more forsight by the players and pcb, more education and investment planning at junior levels so they can handle their finances better and plan for the future after cricket

Poverty growing up and a lack of education is the real reason why this concept of lingering on like a bad smell only occurs in the subcontinent
 
HAHAHA Misbah was DROPPED after the t20 series against England in 2012. This is the interview he gave afterwards http://www.pakpassion.net/ppforum/showthread.php?154208-Misbah-disappointed-after-T20-axe&p=4831788

"It is the board's and selectors' decision about me and T20 cricket but I feel that I can play in this format and will continue to do so at the domestic level,"

"I have the responsibility of leading Pakistan in Tests and ODIs and it is a tough challenge for me. I need to remain focussed on these formats. I don't think me being dropped from the T20 squad will affect my focus or job," Misbah said.


So that's Lie Number 1

In his last t20i match, Misbah came out at 49 for 2 chasing just 130. He got to just 21 from 24 balls but thanks to Umar Akmal and Shafiq, Pakistan needed 23 from the last 18 balls, to be bowled by Dernbach and Broad LOL, with 7 wickets in the hut. Misbah scored 7 from the 8 deliveries he faced (the only boundary being a ridiculous misfield) and was bowled on the last ball to lose Pakistan the game AND THE SERIES.

So that's lie number 2.

His rubbish ODI stats the year before he retired have also been posted so that's another lie.
[MENTION=138958]Khan12[/MENTION] to put into context, the level of [MENTION=134608]Hawkeye[/MENTION]'s delusion and lies. He claimed that Misbah was an example of retiring gracefully at his peak as a gun t20 player.

I expect him to come back with 'okay well name me a better player of pace than Misbah in 2012, no one had better timing than him.'
 
When i was playing club cricket, 80% of the "guys" hadn't pass matriculation (10th grade), 15% had passed 10th grade, and barely 5% had done fsc(12th grade). There would hardly be 2-3 guys who were in university.

The situation is, most of the cricketers at club level dont go to school. While practise nets start at 1 or 2 o clock, most of the guys start their own practise early in the morning. Thus, they dont go to school. They spend their whole time into cricket.

Now, the lucky few who are able to get into the international team and make a career out for themselves, they are not going to go down easily. These guys come into the team making alot of sacrifices. They miss out on alot of their family functions, festivals and such. Thus, it becomes very hard to just retire.

Also, different life styles aswell. For and ENglish or Australian cricketer, whether your a plumber or a cricketer, your life style wont change by a VERY big margin. You will have a house and probably still buy groceries from your local Asda i think.

In Pakistan, an international cricketer is a celebrity, he gets the sponsor money, his life style changes all of a sudden and they dont want to give away that life style. THere is a social problem in our country, we give respect and privileges and basic rights to only celebrities. Once your a common man you dont enjoy basic rights.

So there are these fears. Once, a cricketer retires, he doesnt have taht many options if he isnt educated. SOme of them fear they might not get jobs, and that fear is correct and they are somwhat themselves to be blamed. Most of thee guys dont know how to carry themselves or brand themselves that they dont get proper jobs after cricket, and that fear lurks.

Misbah is the only cricketer post 2010 who got a good job, he even got a tv job pundit job aswell, probably because of his education and being well spoken.

Younis Khan keeps on having issues with PCB that he doesnt understand only hurts him, Shoaib Akhtar is forced to doing Youtube channels. Saeed AJmal cant do analytic stuff or comentary.
 
When i was playing club cricket, 80% of the "guys" hadn't pass matriculation (10th grade), 15% had passed 10th grade, and barely 5% had done fsc(12th grade). There would hardly be 2-3 guys who were in university.

The situation is, most of the cricketers at club level dont go to school. While practise nets start at 1 or 2 o clock, most of the guys start their own practise early in the morning. Thus, they dont go to school. They spend their whole time into cricket.

Now, the lucky few who are able to get into the international team and make a career out for themselves, they are not going to go down easily. These guys come into the team making alot of sacrifices. They miss out on alot of their family functions, festivals and such. Thus, it becomes very hard to just retire.

Also, different life styles aswell. For and ENglish or Australian cricketer, whether your a plumber or a cricketer, your life style wont change by a VERY big margin. You will have a house and probably still buy groceries from your local Asda i think.

In Pakistan, an international cricketer is a celebrity, he gets the sponsor money, his life style changes all of a sudden and they dont want to give away that life style. THere is a social problem in our country, we give respect and privileges and basic rights to only celebrities. Once your a common man you dont enjoy basic rights.

So there are these fears. Once, a cricketer retires, he doesnt have taht many options if he isnt educated. SOme of them fear they might not get jobs, and that fear is correct and they are somwhat themselves to be blamed. Most of thee guys dont know how to carry themselves or brand themselves that they dont get proper jobs after cricket, and that fear lurks.

Misbah is the only cricketer post 2010 who got a good job, he even got a tv job pundit job aswell, probably because of his education and being well spoken.

Younis Khan keeps on having issues with PCB that he doesnt understand only hurts him, Shoaib Akhtar is forced to doing Youtube channels. Saeed AJmal cant do analytic stuff or comentary.

Very good post but as you said, Misbah is a rare exception to the 'players are uneducated so have nothing else to fall back on excuse'. He has the education and after his captaincy stint, also gained a glowing reputation on the world stage.

So why then did he desperately hold on as a player despite being clearly past it? As the title says, why did he not know when to retire?
 
Its a sad state of affairs I can name a dozen of our top stars from the last 20 yrs who are lacking in basic education

Moyo
Yk
Razzaq
Akhter
Afridi
Inzamam
Asif
Ajmal
Kaneria


During their playing days they would struggle with infighting and a general failure to conduct themselves properly in the public eye

And then they struggle to retire gracefully with most struggling to stay relevant and having to go down the social media route or on third rate cricket shows where they are controversial to stay in the limelight
 
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