Why do T20Is even exist?

[Joseph Gomes]

I see them as nothing but redundancy, waste of money and waste of time. They're inferior to T20 leagues in every aspect, be it financial, entertainment or quality. Most top teams don't give a damn about T20Is outside World Cup. Just look at Nidahas trophy for example.

Nowadays, most countries have their own successful T20 leagues named after local regions, and fans are very invested in them. They provide a sense of regional pride and have a lot of context. T20 leagues have grand auctions and are the best paid event in cricket by far. List A or First Class doesn't even compare to T20 leagues. T20 leagues have the best cricketers from the world, and gives a lot of exposure to local players due to having many teams. T20Is does nothing of the sort. It either uses the same players from ODI or tests, or get bunch of rookies debuting every other match, many of whom never play for long anyway, if ever.

What is international T20 trying to achieve? I haven't found a single good reason why the format isn't being killed. They could easily be replaced with more ODIs or, use the spare time to strecth T20 leagues. Instead of hosting junk T20Is we could have more tri-series tournaments like we had in the 90s, people loved those. Cricketers wouldn't have such a cramped schedule without T20Is. All formats could coexist peacefully.

 

[Madplayer]

I see them as nothing but redundancy, waste of money and waste of time. They're inferior to T20 leagues in every aspect, be it financial, entertainment or quality. Most top teams don't give a damn about T20Is outside World Cup. Just look at Nidahas trophy for example.

Nowadays, most countries have their own successful T20 leagues named after local regions, and fans are very invested in them. They provide a sense of regional pride and have a lot of context. T20 leagues have grand auctions and are the best paid event in cricket by far. List A or First Class doesn't even compare to T20 leagues. T20 leagues have the best cricketers from the world, and gives a lot of exposure to local players due to having many teams. T20Is does nothing of the sort. It either uses the same players from ODI or tests, or get bunch of rookies debuting every other match, many of whom never play for long anyway, if ever.

What is international T20 trying to achieve? I haven't found a single good reason why the format isn't being killed. They could easily be replaced with more ODIs or, use the spare time to strecth T20 leagues. Instead of hosting junk T20Is we could have more tri-series tournaments like we had in the 90s, people loved those. Cricketers wouldn't have such a cramped schedule without T20Is. All formats could coexist peacefully.

How do you spread the game to Americas or other countries of the world. They cant start with a New York or Washington DC team. This can be a reason i guess.

 

[Tusker]

How do you spread the game to Americas or other countries of the world. They cant start with a New York or Washington DC team. This can be a reason i guess.

Its a proper waste of time and money trying to spread the game in America. They just don't get it.

 

[Oligochaetes]

Its a proper waste of time and money trying to spread the game in America. They just don't get it.

I saw an advt in Willow sports, asking become a member of USA cricket, so there is definitely a small following building up slowly. very slowly...

To be honest USA has a lot of sporting leagues having great following. So it might take close to half a century for cricket to get any decent following. The only short cut I can see if Christopher Nolan makes a movie on cricket...lol

The only form of cricket which might thrive in US is T20. I am sure they dont have patience for ODI's

 

[Rishta Aunty]

In the final day of the last SA-Aus test there was a discussion between Michael Holding, Shane Warne, Graeme Smith and Shaun Pollock. Pretty much a star-cast. They all unequivocally wanted an end to T20 Internationals and keep it purely to the league level.

 

[jagatk]

I saw an advt in Willow sports, asking become a member of USA cricket, so there is definitely a small following building up slowly. very slowly...

To be honest USA has a lot of sporting leagues having great following. So it might take close to half a century for cricket to get any decent following. The only short cut I can see if Christopher Nolan makes a movie on cricket...lol

The only form of cricket which might thrive in US is T20. I am sure they dont have patience for ODI's

FIFA has spent millions of not billions trying to spread football (the real one) yet have had minor success. Cricket is basically a Indian American sport that too mostly among the first generation don't think the younger generation cares about it. ICC should be helping Scotland and Ireland and maybe get central Asian countries involved where it is likely to succeed rather than chasing the stupid cash cow called USA.

 

[ethan hunt]

Because it makes money and people actually watch it.

 

[BreadPakoda]

T20Is are replacing ODIs as seen in non Big-3 FTPs, Asia Cup etc.

 

[Oligochaetes]

FIFA has spent millions of not billions trying to spread football (the real one) yet have had minor success. Cricket is basically a Indian American sport that too mostly among the first generation don't think the younger generation cares about it. ICC should be helping Scotland and Ireland and maybe get central Asian countries involved where it is likely to succeed rather than chasing the stupid cash cow called USA.

I think its in BCCI's interest to make sure USA never has an interest in cricket, and China too. Their dominance over the sport will be under serious threat

 

[USofA]

I saw an advt in Willow sports, asking become a member of USA cricket, so there is definitely a small following building up slowly. very slowly...

To be honest USA has a lot of sporting leagues having great following. So it might take close to half a century for cricket to get any decent following. The only short cut I can see if Christopher Nolan makes a movie on cricket...lol

The only form of cricket which might thrive in US is T20. I am sure they dont have patience for ODI's

Cricket will never be a sport of any significance. We have the big 4 taking up the entire year and majority of people time. Add to this college sports, golf and tennis, it leaves little time anything else.

People will have to give up something to make room for cricket. I do not see that happening.

 

[barah_admi]

I see them as nothing but redundancy, waste of money and waste of time. They're inferior to T20 leagues in every aspect, be it financial, entertainment or quality. Most top teams don't give a damn about T20Is outside World Cup. Just look at Nidahas trophy for example.

Nowadays, most countries have their own successful T20 leagues named after local regions, and fans are very invested in them. They provide a sense of regional pride and have a lot of context. T20 leagues have grand auctions and are the best paid event in cricket by far. List A or First Class doesn't even compare to T20 leagues. T20 leagues have the best cricketers from the world, and gives a lot of exposure to local players due to having many teams. T20Is does nothing of the sort. It either uses the same players from ODI or tests, or get bunch of rookies debuting every other match, many of whom never play for long anyway, if ever.

What is international T20 trying to achieve? I haven't found a single good reason why the format isn't being killed. They could easily be replaced with more ODIs or, use the spare time to strecth T20 leagues. Instead of hosting junk T20Is we could have more tri-series tournaments like we had in the 90s, people loved those. Cricketers wouldn't have such a cramped schedule without T20Is. All formats could coexist peacefully.

T20 internationals started after years of T20 league cricket in England, which itself was introduced to increase audiences and viewing figures for games featuring county teams. By 2004 and 2005, the English T20 league was very successful, had good viewing figures and had brought younger fans to the game, which led to the introduction of T20 matches between nations and eventually, the first World T20.

That is the reason T20Is exist, whether or not they are useful or important is a very different discussion.

 

[Gabbar Singh]

I agree, bilateral T20I matches are a waste of time.

 

[Executioner]

Cricket as a sport is a waste of time

Test cricket - 5 days of cricket. That's enough time to learn driving, be a good swimmer, learning a useful skill, etc.

 

[Madplayer]

Its a proper waste of time and money trying to spread the game in America. They just don't get it.

Cricket should be marketed as an elite sport in USA which only the high class people play. A prestigious sport, gentleman's game, a sport for princes and snowflakes Etc. Stuff like that.

 

[Tusker]

Cricket should be marketed as an elite sport in USA which only the high class people play. A prestigious sport, gentleman's game, a sport for princes and snowflakes Etc. Stuff like that.

Golf and Tennis already there.

 

[ExplicitAI]

I love watching T20I's, they're so fun to watch and the quality of cricket is amazing. Personally do not see it getting tossed in the recycling bin.

 

[coy0607]

you can make the exact same argument for ODIs, and even Tests for that matter

outside a WC, CT, what is the point of ODI tours? What does it accomplish? Every nation has their domestic cup

This is sports - if something is entertaining and financially viable - then it will exists

 

[Hasan123]

Because it makes money and it's what the public want to see. India vs South Africa T20s were sell outs. Whilst Australia vs South Africa test matches were mostly played infornt of empty crowds.

I love test cricket but T20 cricket is here to stay and has a place in the game.

 

[Darkrai]

I want T20 leagues to be setup like soccer leagues and have a champions league as well. Get rid off T20Is and have only WCt20 with some friendlies leading up to it.

 

[Madplayer]

Golf and Tennis already there.

Yes but they are not the Gentleman's games

How do you think a serious marketing effort reminding the USA of cricketing history of their european ancestors will work ? Will the Americans run away from it because they dont like being reminded of their origin or will it increase interest?

 

[mastersaan10]

I want T20 leagues to be setup like soccer leagues and have a champions league as well. Get rid off T20Is and have only WCt20 with some friendlies leading up to it.

They did that already and it failed. Only indian related matches sell.

 

[Tusker]

Yes but they are not the Gentleman's games

How do you think a serious marketing effort reminding the USA of cricketing history of their european ancestors will work ? Will the Americans run away from it because they dont like being reminded of their origin or will it increase interest?

My experience is that they just do not care. Moreover cricket is too complicated for the American masses to invest time in. It just does not appeal to them. It will always be seen as a sport similar to baseball. The only people interested in Cricket here are the Desi's and carribean's.

 

[Slog]

Agee with OP. t20s should be about leave and only time there should be internationals are when there is world T20s...

As for cricket spreading in America that is NEVER happening. The Americans follow NFL which is as complicated and rough a sport can get so the complexity of the sport isn't an issue either so claiming that simple T20s will help in that regard is false...

 

[Gayle_Force]

It’s definitely the money I would think. In he modern day, T20 is the one format which fills stadiums easily and there is the T20 World Cup which is a big money maker for the ICC. I don’t see ICC giving up that source of revenue.

I am not sure If ICC receives much of a share of revenue from domestic T20 leagues.

 

[MenInG]

to entertain us as we are easily bored!

 

[hk031992]

cricket will never be big here in canada or in the US. Its a waste of time trying to spread it

 

[The_Odd_One]

People are trying to fix something that's not broken. There is nothing wrong with international T20s. People want to watch them so they are there.

 

[giri26]

I think T20I isn't the problem but the recent spate of T20I multi-nation tournaments are. That is an overkill. When you look through the 90's there were so many forgettable tri-series played. Lots of them did not have any relevance. They are not even remembered by cricket fans who grew up during that time. This caused a little bit of tiredness among fans and ODIs kind of became saturated. T20s are played more than the ODIs were because of so many leagues. Fans already have heavy dose of T20 games, don't need to have these meaningless multi-nation tournaments. Players can play few T20Is as a part of overseas tours + Leagues + World cups. That should suffice.

 

[letme alone]

to compare ipl psl cpl bbl bpl ...

 

[Ab Fan]

Yes. International t20s are rubbish and just a ****.

I will prefer IPL and other leagues over them anyday.

 

[HuzaifaE]

This argument makes no sense to me, I despise T20s, but T20Is are a thing for the exact same reasons domestic T20s are

 

[R3verse Swing]

Good OP.

In terms of earning prowess and entertainmet, domestic T20 for sure.

In terms of quality, T20 Internationals.

However the question I would be asking is why do T20s exist anyway? The beauty about Cricket in Tests/ODIs is the strategy, planning, and tactical approach. T20 is obvious from get go. This is why T20 cannot produce Test class players, and until T20 format ushers in a Test team from top to bottom, T20 will remain pyjama style.

Side note : Cricket was the National sport of USA BEFORE the Civil war.

 

[Joseph Gomes]

This argument makes no sense to me, I despise T20s, but T20Is are a thing for the exact same reasons domestic T20s are

No they're not. Domestic T20 is absolutely nothing lile domestic first class or one day game. Domestic T20 leagues are the biggest money making event in cricket, other domestic formats are simply practice match for the internationals.

 

[zn426]

Cricket will always struggle to be a big sport here, but it doesn't mean it can't happen. American football, slowly, surely, is on a decline cycle. It has peaked in popularity, and is slowly being replaced by soccer (football). I can't stand soccer personally, I love American football, but the changing demographics means that it will slowly fade away. The politicization of American football doesn't help matters. That means that people will be looking for a sport to replace it.
For now, though, there needs to be some thought into how cricket is introduced to America. Large metros like NYC, LA, Chicago, Houston, and Miami can support some cricket because of the Indian/Pakistani population. Give it 20 years and you will see some organic fan growth. I think the next step, aside from continuing to develop the US team, is to add a CPL franchise in Florida.

 

[NeVerMind]

How else do you expect the team to gel and practice prior to the T20 World Cup? You cannot just throw 11 individuals together and expect them to start winning immediately? ODIs are T20 have their differences...

 

[Joseph Gomes]

How else do you expect the team to gel and practice prior to the T20 World Cup? You cannot just throw 11 individuals together and expect them to start winning immediately? ODIs are T20 have their differences...

Same was as Football world cup? They could simply play a few matches before world cuo for practice.

 

[NeVerMind]

Same was as Football world cup? They could simply play a few matches before world cuo for practice.

Football they play quite a few friendlies way before a World Cup to gel and find the right combination. I was always impressed with Brazil that they would always get their best 11 to play in the friendlies even when playing the likes of Luxemborg. Not saying you need to do that as I would use international T20s to find and hone young talent...

 

[Joseph Gomes]

Football they play quite a few friendlies way before a World Cup to gel and find the right combination. I was always impressed with Brazil that they would always get their best 11 to play in the friendlies even when playing the likes of Luxemborg. Not saying you need to do that as I would use international T20s to find and hone young talent...

You don't need bilateral T20Is every single series for that. You get enough talent from T20 leagues, more than you can ever get from T20Is.

 

[R3verse Swing]

Cricket will always struggle to be a big sport here, but it doesn't mean it can't happen. American football, slowly, surely, is on a decline cycle. It has peaked in popularity, and is slowly being replaced by soccer (football). I can't stand soccer personally, I love American football, but the changing demographics means that it will slowly fade away. The politicization of American football doesn't help matters. That means that people will be looking for a sport to replace it.
For now, though, there needs to be some thought into how cricket is introduced to America. Large metros like NYC, LA, Chicago, Houston, and Miami can support some cricket because of the Indian/Pakistani population. Give it 20 years and you will see some organic fan growth. I think the next step, aside from continuing to develop the US team, is to add a CPL franchise in Florida.

To be honest I think Cricket would do well in USA, just think of the advertisement slots during an over! You'd get at least 1 advert on Health, 1 infomercial, and 1 political engineering advert!

 

[NeVerMind]

You don't need bilateral T20Is every single series for that. You get enough talent from T20 leagues, more than you can ever get from T20Is.

I think Pakistan need all the practice they can get as not playing in the IPL and only Shadab in BBL. Plus it's not very series. They are not playing any in England in the next few months. Personally, I think it's a great way to introduce youngsters as was hoping there was some so could have taken my son who seems to be indfferent about the game of cricket but gets my support for Pakistan...