"Why does Afridi need to be captain to help Pakistan win the World Cup?" : Asim Kamal

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A left handed middle order batsman known more for his grit than flamboyance, Asim Kamal was termed as a Test match specialist when he debuted for Pakistan against South Africa in 2003. Instead of becoming the tenth Pakistani to score a century on Test debut, he achieved a more eminent and perhaps undesired feat by getting out for 99 runs on Test debut, becoming only the third player to do so after Robert Christiani and Arthur Chipperfield.

Blessed with an unflappable character and an uncomplicated technique, he impressed one and all with a remarkable display of determination in his first Test match. But a middle order already packed with experienced players meant that it was always going to be a struggle for Kamal to establish a place in the national team. Consequently, Kamal played just twelve Test matches, scoring 717 runs with the help of eight fifties at an average of 37.73, with his last Test match being the game against England in 2005 in Lahore.

Currently discarded by the selectors, the 31 year old Kamal plays his First-class cricket for the Port Qasim Authority team. With the end of the current season in First-class cricket, Kamal will be heading to UAE to take part in the Dubai Premier League and then to Florida where he will participate in local league games.

Known for his forthright views on all aspects of Pakistani cricket, Asim Kamal spoke to PakPassion.net about the non-participation of Pakistani players in IPL, Mohammad Hafeez’s resignation as T20 captain, a review of Mohammad Akram’s role as bowling coach and the issue of a foreign or local coach for Pakistan.

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Absence of Pakistani Players in IPL

"I look at this slightly differently than most Pakistanis. In my view, the holding of the IPL in UAE will open the doors for future participation of Pakistani players. This would not be possible due to political reasons if the IPL was held completely in India. I am convinced that Pakistani players will be included in IPL next year if it’s held again in UAE. Frankly speaking, IPL will lose a lot of it’s charm if Pakistani players are not allowed to participate, especially if this competition is held in UAE again. IPL may be played in front of full houses in Dubai but I have seen people with Afridi and Ajmal banners in their hands so there is a lot of demand and expectation to see Pakistani players in action there."


Mohammad Hafeez’s resignation as T20 Captain and possible replacements

"I believe that Mohammad Hafeez resigned under pressure as he had made no such comments in Bangladesh after the team was knocked out of the World T20. Look at Misbah-ul-Haq, he did not resign after his sides performance in the Champions Trophy in 2013, so why should Hafeez have resigned? As to who will replace Hafeez, I do not believe that a good replacement exists and frankly speaking, I don’t have a good suggestion either. If you are referring to young talents who can step in then we have a bad habit of comparing new players with legends. Take example of Sohaib Maqsood who people compared to Inzamam-ul-Haq after a few innings or Ahmed Shehzad who is put at a par with Virat Kohli! There is a vast difference there as Kohli’s consistency in scoring runs is simply unbeatable. In fact forget Kohli, I will be shocked if you can find me a player of the class of Dinesh Karthik in your lineup!

As for older players, Shahid Afridi is being spoken of as a captaincy candidate but don’t you think that he could have won Pakistan the World T20 if he had so much talent in him? I hear that he wants to play in 2015 World Cup as well which is mind boggling for me. I guess he will play in it and Pakistan will also be knocked out of that tournament as well and we will be at square one again. This is how things work in Pakistan."

"I firmly believe that Pakistan did not take bold decisions to identify future captains for the team. In South Africa, they chose Graeme Smith and in Australia they chose George Bailey. In Pakistan not only do we struggle to find a captain, we also have attitude issues amongst senior players which doesn’t help either. Take the example of the Sri Lankan team in the World T20 this year. Sri Lanka chose Chandimal to captain a side which had such veterans such as Jayawardene and Sangakkara. In fact even more eye-opening was the manner in which Malinga lead the team in the final when Chandimal was dropped in the interest of the team. Would this ever happen in Pakistan?"


Failure of Javed Miandad to help groom future Pakistan players

"We had Javed Miandad serve as Director General of PCB for almost 6 years. He is known for being a great servant of Pakistan cricket but what did he achieve apart from collecting a nice sum of money as a paycheck from the PCB? What possible candidates did he cultivate for captaincy and what did he do to revive Pakistani cricket? It’s not as if he found 4 ideal candidates for captains or 4 brilliant batsmen for the future such that we started to chase down 300+ scores! Instead what we have is a team that gets bowled out for 150!"


Misbah-ul-Haq as captain for 2015 World Cup

"2015 World Cup is almost a year away and in Pakistani cricket, that is a lifetime! However, I am in favour of Misbah staying as captain as there really is no one else to replace him and he is a very consistent performer. People seem to mention Shahid Afridi but let me remind them that a good player can win a game with or without being a captain. So let him show his aggression and help Pakistan win the 2015 World Cup. Let Misbah lead and let Afridi support him with his international experience of 18 years – I am sure if Afridi has so much talent, he can do this for Pakistan. Why does Afridi need to be captain to help Pakistan win the World Cup?"


Role of Coach for Pakistan team

"I am a firm believer that no matter where the coach is from, it’s upto the players themselves to put in the hard yards and improve themselves. Look at Abdul Razzaq, he was an aggressive batsman and an excellent bowler but throughout his career, he did not pay any attention to his fielding. Same goes for Saeed Ajmal who is a World Class bowler but not a good fielder. A coach can only explain – he cannot field for the player."

"I also feel that in Pakistan, players are brought into the team and then an attempt is made to coach that player whereas other teams bring in a “well coached” player into the international team. We bring in raw players and try and make good players out of them. This simply makes the job of the coach even more difficult and is not the way forward."


Local or Foreign Coach?

"My view is that foreign coaches are more honest to their job then local ones. They take a lot of pride in their profession and put in 100% when given the opportunity. This has also been my experience with the late Bob Woolmer and also Daryl Foster. The problem is really with our players who don't take full advantage of the help they are getting from these coaches. At the end of the day, it’s upto the players to understand and pay lip service to the advice given to them."


Zaheer Abbas as batting Coach/Consultant

"Zaheer Abbas was a great batsman of his time, but I felt that a great disservice was done to him by making him batting consultant for the World T20. What experience did he have of playing T20 games? He was unable to help our batsman in this format and he was made to look like a fool but really was that his fault that he was put in that position? We could have easily used Inzamam or Mohammad Yousuf instead. By all means use Zaheer for a longer period of time where he can bring more value to the Pakistan batsmen but he is not suitable for helping in T20 format and I really hold the PCB responsible for this fiasco."


Mohammad Akram’s performance as bowling coach was disappointing

"I am a great admirer of Mohammad Akram and although he is no longer the Pakistan bowling coach, I have to say that he must take the blame for the non-performance of our bowlers in recent times. On top of that, the way Mohammad Irfan was misused and the way this contributed to his injury is a matter of concern for all. Also picking an injured Umar Gul was also his responsibility as he must have had a say in it."
 
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Many thanks to Asim for his time and he does make some excellent points in this interview.
 
What a brave interview, where he exposed Miandad, Zaheer, Afridi...
 
Great interview. On a different note, can anyone figure out the keeper in the pic above? Certainly Indian but can't place him. I think asim has a 100 against India as well?
 
He makes a great point with Zaheer Abbas. The legend that he is, scoring the weight of runs that arguably no other Pakistani batsman has ever done. But what does he know about T20?

Azhar Mahmood offered his help and he's turned into the modern T20 player. Hard hitter and bowls at the top and at the death. It's just little things like that.
 
Zaheer he had a soft spot for - felt that PCB had put him in that position.

MIG,

Zaheer could have refused to take the position. I don't think he was offered to take the job on gun point.
 
Great interview. On a different note, can anyone figure out the keeper in the pic above? Certainly Indian but can't place him. I think asim has a 100 against India as well?

Even I can make out who he is with all the cream on the face. Asim Kamal played against India in 2003/04 series in Pakistan and 2004/05 series in India. The Pakistan series had Parthiv as Indian keeper and the Indian series had Karthik as the keeper. Does not look like Parthiv to me. Don't know if Asim played any more series against India after those two.
 
Certainly not one of those interviews where the interviewee just plays it safe.

No holds barred stuff from Asim.
 
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Certainly not one of those interviews where the interviewee just plays it safe.

No holds barred stuff from Asim.

Yeap. Enjoyed the read. Liked the quote about Afridi. Very true. Why do you need captaincy to be able to help your team win?

The Miandad quote is bang on too.
 
Guess Asim has no fear now of not being selected!
 
Every answer is blunt and to the point , respect to Asim Kamal one of the many greats who never got a proper chance (politics) show his class on the field for his country
 
I think this is the most honest interview that I have read on PP
 
One of the best and most honest interview from a Pakistani player lately. Enjoyed it. BTW, he is 37 not 31.
Zaheer had nothing to do with coaching a T20 side and Shohaib Mohammd as a feilding coach. It was just an opportunity for Moeen to take his Karachi buddies for a free trip and he took full advantage of it, at the cost of poor showing of Pakistani team. And guess what Moeen was awarded with even a more imporatnt post for his poor showing at the world T20.
 
Lol normally I dont read interviews I just skim through and I manage to read his full Interview
 
excellent interview, excellently done by pp - they deserve credit for it as much as asim for his candid and honest views.
 
Fantastic stuff. Guys like him is a rare commodity in Pakistan cricket.
 
A brilliant interview. Every single point was bang on. That point about 'Forget Kohli, get a Dinesh Karthik' rings true as well.
 
Excellent interview. This guy seems sensible and surely enough won't be anywhere near Pakistan setup as the wise PCB has shown us before.
 
I think it shows sour grapes at not being picked for Pakistan more. The guy was hardly going to set the world alight was he? And he lazily gets onto the blaming Afridi bandwagon.

"As for older players, Shahid Afridi is being spoken of as a captaincy candidate but don’t you think that he could have won Pakistan the World T20 if he had so much talent in him? I hear that he wants to play in 2015 World Cup as well which is mind boggling for me. I guess he will play in it and Pakistan will also be knocked out of that tournament as well and we will be at square one again. This is how things work in Pakistan."

So it's all his fault that we didn't win the world T20? And he is conveniently forgetting he DID win the World Cup in 2009.

Just another bitter mediocre has-been.
 
Thats a pretty good interview. Cant disagree with anything TBH. He makes good points and i hope he definitely stays like this so that we can have a decent analyst for a change.
 
I think it shows sour grapes at not being picked for Pakistan more. The guy was hardly going to set the world alight was he? And he lazily gets onto the blaming Afridi bandwagon.

"As for older players, Shahid Afridi is being spoken of as a captaincy candidate but don’t you think that he could have won Pakistan the World T20 if he had so much talent in him? I hear that he wants to play in 2015 World Cup as well which is mind boggling for me. I guess he will play in it and Pakistan will also be knocked out of that tournament as well and we will be at square one again. This is how things work in Pakistan."

So it's all his fault that we didn't win the world T20? And he is conveniently forgetting he DID win the World Cup in 2009.

Just another bitter mediocre has-been.

I can tell you came here and read only one part of the interview.
It's not bitterness, in my opinion. Just some very welcome brutal honesty.
 
Instead of taking names of individuals that he didnt do that and he did not do that why not point the flaws in the system itself? Is there any accountability in the PCB itself. The same people come again and again in different roles that you get sick and tired of them , there needs to be an environment where a fair chance can be given to every instead of only a few chosen ones.
 
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Great interview and points on afridi

What can he do as captain that he hasnt or cant do already?

And why cant he or any player serve pakistan without being the captain?

Will his performances and leadership suddenly improve leaps and bounds just because hes made captain this time round?
 
Take example of Sohaib Maqsood who people compared to Inzamam-ul-Haq after a few innings or Ahmed Shehzad who is put at a par with Virat Kohli! There is a vast difference there as Kohli’s consistency in scoring runs is simply unbeatable. In fact forget Kohli, I will be shocked if you can find me a player of the class of Dinesh Karthik in your lineup!

Ahmed has 7 hundreds including hundreds in every format of the game at the tender age of 22. What had Kohli achieved at age 22?

And Dinesh Karthik? Seriously? There are about a thousand better batsmen then Karthik in Pakistan.
 
Ahmed has 7 hundreds including hundreds in every format of the game at the tender age of 22. What had Kohli achieved at age 22?

And Dinesh Karthik? Seriously? There are about a thousand better batsmen then Karthik in Pakistan.

I agree with Asim Kamal.Kohli is Kohli.Shehzad must improve a lot to be compared to Kohli.

I dont see the chance a reality that Shehzad will be able to chieve the same feat as kohli when he will be 25.
It may be sour to taste, but at the end of the day you have to admit that Indian batsmen are miles ahead of their Pakistani counterpart, in technique,class,stroke plaz,mindset-in every category.
Let us drop the comparison with the Indians.Can you name me one Pakistani batsman in present line up who can be compared with the class of Miandad,Zaheer,Injamam,Selim Malik,Saeed Anwar.
I know the answer
 
I think we all need to understand Asim Kamal's perspective. He is not here to please everyone. One of the things he repeated to me and I did not put down above is that his views are extremely unpopular but said that he had nothing to gain or lose by stating them.

Infact, given Afridi's popularity in Pakistan, he is probably cutting himself out of many lucrative assignments.

His candid remarks should be appreciated.
 
Ahmed has 7 hundreds including hundreds in every format of the game at the tender age of 22. What had Kohli achieved at age 22?

And Dinesh Karthik? Seriously? There are about a thousand better batsmen then Karthik in Pakistan.

Agree.
asim kamal is just being bitter here.
some poor comments but seems pp likes the interview.
 
Agree.
asim kamal is just being bitter here.
some poor comments but seems pp likes the interview.


All he is saying is that STOP comparing Shehzad with Kohli at this point in time. Let Shehzad get to the level Kohli is now at and then we can compare.

Making comparisons like that just increases pressure on young batsmen and at worst, makes them big headed
 
Brilliant interview, perhaps the best and most honest one I've seen here on PP. Where is this chap and why isn't he in the PCB setup!

As for older players, Shahid Afridi is being spoken of as a captaincy candidate but don’t you think that he could have won Pakistan the World T20 if he had so much talent in him? I hear that he wants to play in 2015 World Cup as well which is mind boggling for me. I guess he will play in it and Pakistan will also be knocked out of that tournament as well and we will be at square one again. This is how things work in Pakistan."
Summed it up perfectly, why must Afridi be picked for the WC? He surely won't win them it, why not give experience to someone who can gain from it.
 
Excellent Interview. I couldn't agree more with every word he said about everyone.
 
Excellent interview.

Alot of myth busters.

Specially regarding Afridis captaincy.

Man there should be a television channel for pakpassion or something.

The interviews done on this channel will talk sense to the rest of the media.

The media is soo influenced these days you cannot rely on one word being fed to the public.

This is an example of an honest interview done in the interest of cricket. An honest perspective which gives the best answers on where the problems lie.
 
Apart from Afridi's point I agree with him SPECIALLY on the Miandad's role.

The logic he used for Afridi can also be used for Misbah. Why Misbah has to be the captain to "perform consistently"? He can do it without being captain, can't he?

The difference of opinion I have with Asim is that Misbah is a tentative and a super defensive player whose mindset is based on "fear of defeat" and not "hunger for victory". Misbah just does not understand the concept of "Do or Die". And the problem is, if the captain up top has this kind of approach towards the game then the entire team is influenced by the trickling down effect that flows from top to bottom.

Will Afridi's captaincy give us a guarantee to win the WC? No. Will Misbah's captaincy give us a guarantee to win the WC? Definitely No!
The element of taking risks is what gives Afridi's captaincy a slightly more probability to take us further in the WC IF we are taking a shot at victory. But if victory is NOT the target of this WC then Afridi Misbah and Hafeez, all three, should be sacked. Asad Shafiq should be made captain and Fawad Alam his deputy so that we get a jump start for future captaincy development.

Lets be brutally honest here, Misbah's captaincy just doesn't have what it takes to keep the rest of 10 players on their toes.
He comes in, puts his head down and starts tuk tuk to score a 50 odd runs on 95 odd deliveries and exists out. No impact, no passion, no fire and no will and perhaps no vision to take the team cross over the victory line by him being the torch barrier.
 
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Very good interview, very good truthful hard hitting points made!
 
Top interview!

Pure honesty, What has Miandad done?, Why does Afridi have to be captain to perform? Just great questions!.
 
Apart from Afridi's point I agree with him SPECIALLY on the Miandad's role.

The logic he used for Afridi can also be used for Misbah. Why Misbah has to be the captain to "perform consistently"? He can do it without being captain, can't he?

The difference of opinion I have with Asim is that Misbah is a tentative and a super defensive player whose mindset is based on "fear of defeat" and not "hunger for victory". Misbah just does not understand the concept of "Do or Die". And the problem is, if the captain up top has this kind of approach towards the game then the entire team is influenced by the trickling down effect that flows from top to bottom.

Will Afridi's captaincy give us a guarantee to win the WC? No. Will Misbah's captaincy give us a guarantee to win the WC? Definitely No!
The element of taking risks is what gives Afridi's captaincy a slightly more probability to take us further in the WC IF we are taking a shot at victory. But if victory is NOT the target of this WC then Afridi Misbah and Hafeez, all three, should be sacked. Asad Shafiq should be made captain and Fawad Alam his deputy so that we get a jump start for future captaincy development.

Lets be brutally honest here, Misbah's captaincy just doesn't have what it takes to keep the rest of 10 players on their toes.
He comes in, puts his head down and starts tuk tuk to score a 50 odd runs on 95 odd deliveries and exists out. No impact, no passion, no fire and no will and perhaps no vision to take the team cross over the victory line by him being the torch barrier.

Difference is that Misbah IS the captain. His consistency isn't due to him being captain, that's just who he is and why he was made captain in the first place.

Secondly, why should he be gung ho? Pakistan are an average international team, 4th/5th best in the world traditionally. You're acting like this Pakistan team is like Australia circa early 2000s. They could afford to go for broke because they had the players who could step up. Pakistan don't. Nothing wrong with saying Pakistan are the underdogs for most of the games they play in fact. Maybe it'll help to give some perspective on things.
 
Finally a former cricketer who is not criminally deluded about the fictional talent in Pakistan.

Hilarious how people are getting all worked up over the Kohli and Shehzad comparison. Shehzad isn't and never will be a percent of the batsman Kohli is and no shame in that either.
 
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Finally a former cricketer who is not criminally deluded about the fictional talent in Pakistan.

Hilarious how people are getting all worked up over the Kohli and Shehzad comparison. Shehzad isn't and never will be a percent of the batsman Kohli is and no shame in that either.

Pretty sure most PPers dont put Shehzad in the same bracket as Kohli apart from the deluded few. One is a future ATG while the other will never achieve that status the majority of cricket fans know that.

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Apart from Afridi's point I agree with him SPECIALLY on the Miandad's role.

The logic he used for Afridi can also be used for Misbah. Why Misbah has to be the captain to "perform consistently"? He can do it without being captain, can't he?

The difference of opinion I have with Asim is that Misbah is a tentative and a super defensive player whose mindset is based on "fear of defeat" and not "hunger for victory". Misbah just does not understand the concept of "Do or Die". And the problem is, if the captain up top has this kind of approach towards the game then the entire team is influenced by the trickling down effect that flows from top to bottom.

Will Afridi's captaincy give us a guarantee to win the WC? No. Will Misbah's captaincy give us a guarantee to win the WC? Definitely No!
The element of taking risks is what gives Afridi's captaincy a slightly more probability to take us further in the WC IF we are taking a shot at victory. But if victory is NOT the target of this WC then Afridi Misbah and Hafeez, all three, should be sacked. Asad Shafiq should be made captain and Fawad Alam his deputy so that we get a jump start for future captaincy development.

Lets be brutally honest here, Misbah's captaincy just doesn't have what it takes to keep the rest of 10 players on their toes.

He comes in, puts his head down and starts tuk tuk to score a 50 odd runs on 95 odd deliveries and exists out. No impact, no passion, no fire and no will and perhaps no vision to take the team cross over the victory line by him being the torch barrier.

This rhetoric is really getting old, my friend.

Afridi got his chance in WC2011. What did he do? Persisted with his old pals, Razzaq, Kami whatnot. Did nothing with the bat, and later even admitted that because "he didn't work on it at all."

Afridi's captaincy was extremely defensive in itself, as well. This josh, jazba, hunger, "sir per ball maari paray tou maaro" aggression isn't worth anything when :
a) you bottle up in pressure games.
b) use it to create divisions in the team/diss players publically.

I adore Afridi, but at this point in time, we need to persist with stability and consistency, not eccentricity/senseless aggression.

Finally a former cricketer who is not criminally deluded about the fictional talent in Pakistan.

Hilarious how people are getting all worked up over the Kohli and Shehzad comparison. Shehzad isn't and never will be a percent of the batsman Kohli is and no shame in that either.

The talent is there. Most of the team concurs that U. Akmal and Shahzad are a class above when it comes to raw talent.

The problem is the refinement and conversion of that talent to consistency (which translates into results). Results are the only benchmark to address efficacy. In this case, I feel both AS and UA have improved somewhat, but in different capacities.

Yet both need to be Misbah-esque consistent to be legible for comparison with anyone.

I think MIG summed up his thoughts more eloquently:

All he is saying is that STOP comparing Shehzad with Kohli at this point in time. Let Shehzad get to the level Kohli is now at and then we can compare.

Making comparisons like that just increases pressure on young batsmen and at worst, makes them big headed
 
This rhetoric is really getting old, my friend.

Afridi got his chance in WC2011. What did he do? Persisted with his old pals, Razzaq, Kami whatnot. Did nothing with the bat, and later even admitted that because "he didn't work on it at all."

Afridi's captaincy was extremely defensive in itself, as well. This josh, jazba, hunger, "sir per ball maari paray tou maaro" aggression isn't worth anything when :
a) you bottle up in pressure games.
b) use it to create divisions in the team/diss players publically.

I adore Afridi, but at this point in time, we need to persist with stability and consistency, not eccentricity/senseless aggression.

Again, what is GOAL here? Why do we need "stability and consistency" for the WC? Is Misbah going to win us the WC? Will Afridi's "senseless aggression" win us the World Cup ? The answer is NO and NO.
You need to tell me what's the goal for WC? Neither Afridi nor Misbah is going to win us.
 
Again, what is GOAL here? Why do we need "stability and consistency" for the WC? Is Misbah going to win us the WC? Will Afridi's "senseless aggression" win us the World Cup ? The answer is NO and NO.
You need to tell me what's the goal for WC? Neither Afridi nor Misbah is going to win us.

You are making absolutely no sense. You claim our "goal" is to not win, then why the issue with Afridi and Misbah?

Our goal should be to play positive cricket and fight till the end.

This is not a sprint or athletic sport - this is cricket, a TEAM game. 11 players will take the field, not Misbah or Afridi alone.

Yes captaincy is important, but you should stop over-estimating the captain's power in this particular regard. The captain is not going bowl and bat 50 overs all by himself. Its a team game, and everyone has to take responsibility to fulfill their roles.

I don't care if we win or lose, I want to see positive cricket. When you focus on individuals the way you do, just remember that Misbah has carried the burden of the entire lineup of the team on his own shoulders alone for most part of 2013 and Afridi dropped captaincy in Tests and fled mid-tour. If you think Afridi will inspire a fighting spirit, then I beg to differ - results show otherwise. If you think Misbah is too defensive and will definitely make us lose, then well - his captaincy records suggest otherwise

Back the team, not certain individuals.
 
You are making absolutely no sense. You claim our "goal" is to not win, then why the issue with Afridi and Misbah?

Our goal should be to play positive cricket and fight till the end.

This is not a sprint or athletic sport - this is cricket, a TEAM game. 11 players will take the field, not Misbah or Afridi alone.

Yes captaincy is important, but you should stop over-estimating the captain's power in this particular regard. The captain is not going bowl and bat 50 overs all by himself. Its a team game, and everyone has to take responsibility to fulfill their roles.

I don't care if we win or lose, I want to see positive cricket. When you focus on individuals the way you do, just remember that Misbah has carried the burden of the entire lineup of the team on his own shoulders alone for most part of 2013 and Afridi dropped captaincy in Tests and fled mid-tour. If you think Afridi will inspire a fighting spirit, then I beg to differ - results show otherwise. If you think Misbah is too defensive and will definitely make us lose, then well - his captaincy records suggest otherwise

Back the team, not certain individuals.

Certain individuals do matter A LOT. Otherwise a novice fan should ponder upon the concept of Man of the Match award.
A captain should at least be a match winner which Misbah is not. He can not inspire anyone.
 
Certain individuals do matter A LOT. Otherwise a novice fan should ponder upon the concept of Man of the Match award.
A captain should at least be a match winner which Misbah is not. He can not inspire anyone.

MOM awards, you say? Oh yes! That one award, which inherently favours batsmen more than bowlers, is truly such a great indicator of personal performance. Nothing better than a MOM award to illustrate how the winning individuals completely change the game single-handedly!

Maybe that's why Saeed Ajmal has never won one. My, oh my - things have never seemed so clear to me before.

/end sarcasm.

You are a sensible enough fellow. Read your comment again, and try to convince me with an argument that is not a value-based judgment on why cricket is not a team game/Misbah is not a team-player/match-winner/non-inspirational.

(For what its worth, I may not play cricket professionally, but as a personality, Misbah is an inspiration when it comes to staying dedicated/working hard despite the odds, focusing only on your job and not letting others get to you. So there goes your argument of him "not being able to inspire anyone" out the window.)
 
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was it by chance that PP used a photo of Asim with Dinesh Karthik? :)) :))

a fantastic interview and he has smashed the nail on its head several times.
 
Certain individuals do matter A LOT. Otherwise a novice fan should ponder upon the concept of Man of the Match award.
A captain should at least be a match winner which Misbah is not. He can not inspire anyone.

Misbah cannot inspire anyone? Have you even been following how many people/players actually respect him a lot?

Also, when someone's inspiration is to turn batsmen (like Imran Nazir, Umar AKmal) into hacks who only go for six, it is not a good inspiration
 
Ahmed has 7 hundreds including hundreds in every format of the game at the tender age of 22. What had Kohli achieved at age 22?

And Dinesh Karthik? Seriously? There are about a thousand better batsmen then Karthik in Pakistan.

A little bit of common sense can tell anyone that there is a sea difference in talent between both of them, never mind the no of 100s. In terms of 100s,, at 22 Ahmed has more 100s than many all time legends did at that age. What does that prove? Common sense is required
 
I find it amusing that posters are trying to use logic and reason when debating with Afridi fans.

Do you think they care about logic, reason or even Pakistan?
 
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Brilliant interview, perhaps the best and most honest one I've seen here on PP. Where is this chap and why isn't he in the PCB setup!

Summed it up perfectly, why must Afridi be picked for the WC? He surely won't win them it, why not give experience to someone who can gain from it.

then why they need send Misbah or Akmal or Shehzad there...? send group if u16 kids there.. they can too gain experience there...

btw why New Zealand play Worldcup...? it should have been Uganda, so they can too gain experience..
 
A little bit of common sense can tell anyone that there is a sea difference in talent between both of them, never mind the no of 100s. In terms of 100s,, at 22 Ahmed has more 100s than many all time legends did at that age. What does that prove? Common sense is required

Let's see where Shezzy boy is at 25 and then we'll see how much of your condescension stands up. He already has a 147 in Test matches - Kholi hasn't managed even 120 so far.
 
Let's see where Shezzy boy is at 25 and then we'll see how much of your condescension stands up. He already has a 147 in Test matches - Kholi hasn't managed even 120 so far.

:))

Inzamam has a 300 in Tests, Tendulkar doesn't even have a 250 but yet, there are on completely different planets.

Common sense seriously lacking indeed.
 
I think it shows sour grapes at not being picked for Pakistan more. The guy was hardly going to set the world alight was he? And he lazily gets onto the blaming Afridi bandwagon.

Trust me, this guy is talking gold.

It baffles me how this board has survived for the past 10 years. We see these 11 players play out for the nation on television screens, unaware of the psychological imbalance, nepotism, player-lobby and management failure that hinders within the dressing room. Forget the axis-of-evil against Pakistan, PCB makes sure they further diminish any worthy efforts. Nevertheless, a victory after the said conditions is not a miracle, it's a blessing.
 
Let's see where Shezzy boy is at 25 and then we'll see how much of your condescension stands up. He already has a 147 in Test matches - Kholi hasn't managed even 120 so far.

Oh come on man!!

Stop comparing them, Kohli is head and shoulders above Shehzad!!.

Kohli and AB are the only two out there than can achieve ATG's!.

Shehzad is doing good for us and thats all that should matter!. We should hope he improves and has a long and prosperous career for Pakistan, rather than compare him to a potential ATG!.
 
How can people still believe Shahzad is as good as/can be as good as/can be better than Kohli?

Kohli has more talent and brains in the tip of his pinky than Shahzad could ever dream of. And this is coming from someone who really appreciates Shezzy boy's efforts.

If Shahzad ends up half the batsman Kohli is right now, I'll be happy.
 
^^^
I don't think any kid in his right mind wants to be a cricketer anymore. :p

Besides, kids are looking for entertainment. Afridi can only deal in sixes and he's very popular. That's why they'd like to be like him.

Ask a 10 year old who knows cricket and he'd want to be like Ajmal.
 
^^^
I don't think any kid in his right mind wants to be a cricketer anymore. :p

Besides, kids are looking for entertainment. Afridi can only deal in sixes and he's very popular. That's why they'd like to be like him.

Ask a 10 year old who knows cricket and he'd want to be like Ajmal.

I would slightly differ.
With the amount of money modern day cricket offers, many now want to become a cricketer.
Here is the subtlety though: A fast bowler starts his run up, comes in firing to deliver a bouncer hitting the batsman's nose, the batsman ducks down, the ball takes the edge of a tree trunk in the name of a cricket bat and lands over the boundary line for a six in a 60 yards ground. Who wants to be a bowler? NO ONE!

It looks like the immediate future of cricket is mostly about dashing batsmanship. The rules and setup already favor the heroics in batting to ablaze the ground, and unfortunately, Misbah type batting approach has not much to offer for future.

Even the Test Cricket has drastically changed. The games usually end within 3 days and we see fewer draws than ever before. T20 has corrupted the batsman's mindset and it's leaning towards hitting and dashing - regardless of the format.
 
I had a to read every word because this interview was that good.

The advantage of interviewing a cricketer who has nothing to gain or lose is brutal honesty.

The disadvantage is that he would be bitter about not having an opportunity to gain anything.

I expect a show cause notice or something from PCB for criticizing everything left, right and center.

I know another test cricketer who was also from Karachi, a middle order batsman, and a left hander who has nothing to gain from cricket anymore: Asif Mujtaba now lives in Texas and I can possibly arrange for a PP interview with him if Saj bhai and MIG bhai are interested.

:))

Inzamam has a 300 in Tests, Tendulkar doesn't even have a 250 but yet, there are on completely different planets.

Common sense seriously lacking indeed.

http://www.kidsastronomy.com/solar_system.htm
 
Unable to grasp the concept of BRAVELY taking the risk to catch the bigger fish AND unable to have a futuristic vision. Am I surprised that you are a Misbah fan?

So you rejected, and rightly so, quite a few players INCLUDING Afridi for captaincy, and I agree with it. The question now is, for how long we are gonna stick with Misbah? Up till 2023/24 WC or to a point where he is brought to pitch on a wheel chair? We don't have a new captain ready, so what to do? Misbah miserably failed to groom his deputy and was surprisingly stuck with a player like Hafeez who hardly makes it to the team.

And this is exactly why I gave a third option. Sack Misbah Hafeez and Afridi, and make Asad Shafiq Captain and Fawad Alam vice captain. NONE of these players will win us the WC ... BUT .... with Asad and Fawad being exposed to WC, we will lay down the foundation stones towards a solid development of future captaincy.
There is ABSOLUTELY no advantage to our future cricket for playing Misbah in the WC (IF THE GOAL IS WATCHING "POSITIVE CRICKET" AND DONT WORRY ABOUT WINNING).

I slightly supported Afridi's captaincy ( IF THE GOAL IS TO WIN THE WC) because he can act like a banana peel where either he will sink us or sink the opposition. It's a gamble that perhaps has a slightly higher possibility to excel in the WC but with Misbah, we are sure it's not gonna happen. It's more like accepting the defeat before stepping into the battle field.

I think the difference of opinion here is that you are hell bent to keep Misbah as captain for the WC and perhaps indefinitely after that since you believe we don't have a replacement. You are also unable to come up with the answer as to what is the goal of WC? I think we already agree that Misbah will not win us the WC. And I guess I dont need to state the obvious that the meaning of playing "positive cricket" may differ from person to person.

While I am open to look into the possibility of sacking all three if Misbah and Afridi are of no benefit for THE FUTURE of Pak cricket, and lets start by a new captain to build for future - perhaps in my understanding that's "positive cricket" with positive planning.

If you and I indulge in glories of the past of Misbah or Afridi then it would mean we are a team of the past. You are either unable to comprehend or simply not ready to think about future - but then again, you are a Misbah fan.

So I will concede. You win this argument. Lets stick with Misbah's captaincy for the WC, don't care about winning the WC, look for "positive cricket", and wait for a miracle that we find a replacement and let Misbah retire whenever that happens. :)

Interesting how you implicitly take up an issue with Misbah's age now, just to see your anti-Misbah rhetoric home.

Actually, no - scratch that. Its not interesting, it's pretty sad.

You began with bashing Misbah, then went onto the WC2015, and now its about the indefinite "future." I've always answered accordingly.

Planning in cricket is always cyclical: per ODI world cup. You asked for my goal for the WC15, which I provided.

There's a reason why I chose those words specifically, which you ever-so-kindly capitalised for me (or for yourself. Who knows). And that is: given our current pool of players, that is the only course of action that can get us results. Our team is not brimming with match-winners (1992), neither it consists of stupendous raw talent in every aspect (like it was in 1999). Ours is a team with a maximum of 3-4 match winners, who are incredibly inconsistent as they are. In 2015, I don't expect the team to win the world cup, but if they work hard and do their jobs, we would see some good cricket and hopefully a decent enough place in semi-finals (perhaps).

Up uptil the WC15, theres no reason for Misbah to be ousted. Anyway you see it, that would be a highly stupid thing to do, for reasons that have been exhausted now. No need to destabilise a team that only recently found stability.

For the future, it is blatantly obvious Misbah has to retire, and will probably do so by the end of next year's world cup. The initial plan was to let Hafeez take over for a few years (he'd have been 33 next year) - and for Hafeez to groom in a youngster like Fawad/Shafiq/Shahzad/whoever for the future - etc. All that went out of the window with Hafeez's resignation.

Now here should be the plan for the "future": make a youngster vice captain (shehzad, or umar akmal, asad shafiq, whoever) and T20I captain. Groom him for a year, until after the WC2015. Once Misbah retires (hopefully, alongside Afridi and other seniors), give him the complete reins and hope for the best.

Fact is, ours is not a culture that accepts youngsters guiding seniors easily. And neither do we have the visionaries who can work to change that culture. Personally, I think the background hands (PCB, management, coaches) should be involved in shaping in a positive environment, but we all know the shambolic state of our management. Anyhow, we have to make do with whatever culture and resources we have. What I've entailed above, is the best course of action in my eyes for the "future".
 
I would slightly differ.
With the amount of money modern day cricket offers, many now want to become a cricketer.
Here is the subtlety though: A fast bowler starts his run up, comes in firing to deliver a bouncer hitting the batsman's nose, the batsman ducks down, the ball takes the edge of a tree trunk in the name of a cricket bat and lands over the boundary line for a six in a 60 yards ground. Who wants to be a bowler? NO ONE!

It looks like the immediate future of cricket is mostly about dashing batsmanship. The rules and setup already favor the heroics in batting to ablaze the ground, and unfortunately, Misbah type batting approach has not much to offer for future.

Even the Test Cricket has drastically changed. The games usually end within 3 days and we see fewer draws than ever before. T20 has corrupted the batsman's mindset and it's leaning towards hitting and dashing - regardless of the format.


I thought this was about whether kids would like to be Misbah or Afridi.

Of course cricket has changed, it's too heavily inclined towards the batsmen which is very unfair, but that's the way things are. But kids aren't really willing to become cricketers these days. It's not just about money, everyone knows the controversies and scandals and dilemmas which are perpetually part of the sport, especially if you're from Pakistan.

Also, the Misbah type batting approach is what we need if we want to have a future.

Back to who should be captain. Misbah all the way!
 
Changing captains brings a change of strategy and a different outlook whether its Afridi or someone else for that matter.

Asim has got it wrong there, you only need to ask Brearley.
 
The entire argument goes out of the window if I asked you "for how long"?
Sooner or later you will run out of finding new Misbahs to be chosen for captaincy. Matter of fact, you run out of options after the WC when Misbah exists out - hopefully.
What you gonna do? Ask Wajahatullah Wasti or Mudassir Nazar to come out of retirement and take care of the captaincy?

Just because one captain will retire doesn't mean we go back to some ex-captain. He was stripped of his captaincy for a reason.

Our problem of recycling people is the main reason we're in the position we are today.

We made a major mistake by not grooming a captain to take over from Misbah from the start. But that doesn't mean we can't start now. We don't have a T20 captain ATM, and that's perfect. Shahzad is being tipped to take over, and that's even better. Yes, he's young, yes, he's slightly immature and arrogant, but I believe he can change all this.

We don't have a T20 game till October, he can learn the tools of the trade by then. And don't worry, he's best friends with your boy Afridi so he will have a shade of Lala. After the WC we tour Bangladesh, he can go there as ODI captain. We can arrange some Pakistan A tours and he can lead.

We don't need to revert to the past, we need to look and move to the future, and for that, taking a step back is never going to help.
 
I have a feeling that amongst cricketers of today in Pakistan, Misbah seems to have a special cult status.

People like Asim have no real hope of making it to the team so they have no real reason to support Misbah but I have yet to hear from any "serving" cricketer who has ONE bad thing to say about Misbah.

Obviously not the case for fans.
 
The guy was unfairly sidelined. Inzi should be blamed given the power and authority he enjoyed over selection matters at that time

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The guy was unfairly sidelined. Inzi should be blamed given the power and authority he enjoyed over selection matters at that time

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Not just Inzi, where was the pressure from the media or fans to get him back in the team?

There was none, I remember what it was like around here at the time and there were only a small handful of us on PP that ever had a good word to say about Kamal.

When it came to Asim Kamal the majority of Pakistani fans all thought the same things, if you're not photogenic and/or you don't hit boundaries then you don't have "talunt"
 
Re: "Why does Afridi need to be captain to help Pakistan win the World Cup?" : Asim K

Not just Inzi, where was the pressure from the media or fans to get him back in the team?

There was none, I remember what it was like around here at the time and there were only a small handful of us on PP that ever had a good word to say about Kamal.

When it came to Asim Kamal the majority of Pakistani fans all thought the same things, if you're not photogenic and/or you don't hit boundaries then you don't have "talunt"

This is a common story for all the players. Kamal wasnt a night watchman like Azhar ali, he played to the situation, he would consolidate in the middle order where he would put the real bad balls away and when he would bat with the tail he would adopt a more expansive game.

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Interesting points from Asim Kamal particularly on captaincy.

He seems to be hinting that some players really chase the captaincy and perform better when they are captain.
 
hmm Afridi has won Pakistan a lot of matches without captain as well

Asia Cup vs India

Asia Cup vs Bangladesh

1st ODI vs West Indies

and many more
 
hmm Afridi has won Pakistan a lot of matches without captain as well

Asia Cup vs India

Asia Cup vs Bangladesh

1st ODI vs West Indies

and many more

and thats the point. he will/should be winning matches for pakistan regardless of being captain or not.
 
https://arysports.tv/pakistan-off-the-field-weighs-more-on-the-field-asim-kamal/

Former Pakistan’s middle order batsman Asim Kamal, who was excluded from Pakistan national team after playing only 12 tests despite an impressive record, believes as long as the current cabinet is operational in Pakistan Cricket Board, Fawad Alam’s chances for returning in the national team do not seem bright.

“With the current cabinet in charge, the chances of Fawad Alam’s return to Pakistan team seems near to impossible,” told Asim Kamal. “However, I would advise him to keep fighting and keep proving his worth with his bat. The fortunes may turn into his favour in future,” he added.

Asim Kamal maintained a healthy average of 37.73 runs in the 12 Test matches he played for Pakistan, which also featured 99 in his debut inning followed by seven half-centuries. He last played for Pakistan in 2005 in a Test against England. It has been around 13 years since he got dumped by the selectors, the reasons behind his snubbing are still unknown and the mystery is yet to be solved.

The 41-year old is unable to understand all the hue and cry from media and fans for Fawad Alam as it has been a norm in Pakistan cricket of dropping anyone who the authorities do not like. Kamal brushed off the allegations of ignoring players over ethnicities and told that the problem is much severe. He quoted the example of Yasir Hameed, who was arguably the best opener of his age and belonged to KPK.

“It is not the first time that it is happening, it has happened in the past as well with the players who had phenomenal performances not only in domestic cricket but at the international stage as well,” he stated. “Fawad is being ignored because of the flawed system, players are being selected on personal liking and disliking, performances have a small part in selection criteria. Merit has always been murdered in Pakistan,” he went on to say.

The former left-handed batsman believes that to remain under authorities’ radar and in the team, you have to be a good performer on the field as well as off the field. Players play with uncertainties and are not sure if this inning will prove to be their last inning, moreover, players spend their lives thinking the reason for being dropped from the team.

“In Pakistan team, off the field performance weighs much more than the on the field performances, and the ones who are good at performing outside the ground are able to cement their places in the team,” Said Asim Kamal. “No one tells you why you are dropped, everything is done secretly, and players play all their innings as their last inning, there is no certainty whether he will be selected again or not, these confusions ruin players’ performance,” he shared.

Youngsters, who grow up dreaming about playing for Pakistan, end up hurting when they are unjustly victimized by the selectors or the authorities. They dedicate their life to wear the star on their chest and make the country proud. But, when they are treated like this, they may end up getting mentally and emotionally disturbed. One of such players was Farhan Adil, who deeply wounded by the board’s behaviour in spite of being an exceptional batting talent.

“I would name Farhan Adil, he would have been one of the greatest batsmen for Pakistan had he played, but he was snubbed by the selectors just after one Test that made him mentally upset. He was a classy player, I even dare to say that if he had played properly, he might have become a bigger star than Mohammad Yousuf and others,” he told.

Talking about his mental and emotional condition, he thanked God for the blessings.

“God’s blessing and my parents’ prayers have saved me from any sort of depression, but they did not leave any stone unturned to make me mentally unstable. They don’t care about it, they are getting everything they need and this is all that matters to them,” he added.



Pakistan never stop surprising the world with incredibly talented players. However, they are also known for wasting these talents and not grooming them into world-beating products. Whereas, Kamal believes PCB is great at grooming budding cricketers if these players are in their good books.

“It is being said about the PCB that they don’t groom players, whereas the truth is that they groom whoever they want and when they do not want to polish someone, they will just not give them enough opportunities like they did with me, Fawad Alam and Yasir Hameed” he revealed.

Often, the reason given for Asim Kamal’s exclusion from the squad is that Pakistan team then had world class middle-order batsmen like Younis Khan, Inzamam Ul Haq and Mohammad Yousuf and there was no spot for a newcomer. However, the ignored star performer questioned the greatness of players if they did not leave decedents behind that could take the charge of the team in their absence. He also mentioned that all these legendary players were concerned about their own place in the team.

“Great players are meant to give their team performers that can take the charge after them. Our legendary players always feared that this player will replace us in the team,” he told.

He questioned board’s criteria for selecting players on T20s performance, their striking power and fitness. He believes with these gauges, Pakistan will not be able to produce any world class player in the near future and it was Younis Khan’s and Misbah Ul Haq’s own efforts that got them to the height of fame.

“There is no planning, you are selecting Test side from the T20 format. It will result in mediocre players, there will not be any world class players in Pakistan in the near future and the team’s performance will remain the same. If a player is able to hit a 106 meter six then he is a capable player, it is how the dynamics have changed,” he stated.



On the other hand, all around the world, players who have done well in the longest format of the game, have also performed in the shorter formats be it Virat Kohli of India, AB de Villiers of South Africa or the tainted skipper Steve Smith of Australia. However, the things are other way around in Pakistan.

“If you see around the world, the top performers in Test cricket are their star performers in T20s be it Virat Kohli or AB de Villiers. The situation is other way around in Pakistan, the reason for that is people who are there to make strategies are just hollowing the whole cricketing system of the country,” said Asim Kamal.

He believes all the problems in Pakistan cricket is because of power game. They do not want top performers in the side, as they will be tough to control.

“All problems are because of the rift for power, it is the same panel that comes back into the circuit after every few days. They intentionally keep ordinary players in the team who can easily be replaced and then reinstate in the team when they needed,” he shared.

He has a solution to rectify the system. He suggested there should be recently retired and capable players in the management like Misbah Ul Haq and Younis Khan. He pointed towards the people who have been there in the system for ages and have done nothing but make it weaker.

“System is fine, there is just lack of implementation. As they have a policy to select youngsters in the side, there should be an age limit for the management as well. There are people sitting in the system that have spent their whole lives there doing nothing for the game in the country. There should be players like Younis Khan and Misbah Ul Haq in the board,” he suggested.

Asim Kamal advised youngsters to focus on their studies primarily, if they want to play cricket, they will have to adapt the popular mindset of the cricketing circuit. Otherwise, no matter how talented you are, you will not last long.

“My message to youngsters is that if you are good at studies then find a decent job and stay happy or you will just waste your time. If you do not have the same mentality as them, you won’t survive long,” he said.

Asim Kamal believes if you are honest with your passion and country, you will earn the respect of fans. He advised all the players and the authorities to remain true to their jobs and place Pakistan above their personal priorities.

“I have always tried to be honest to my passion, my country and give my best, it is not necessary that you have fans after playing 100 Tests, if you love and respect your country, the country will give it back to you. All players and concerned authorities need to think about the country, if they will think about themselves and just focus on earning, the things will get worse for Pakistan cricket,” he concluded.
 
Some honest and tough words by Asif Kamal. Another one lost to the system.
 
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